tv Influential with Katty Kay BBC News February 23, 2025 11:30pm-12:02am GMT
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a softer focus. i've read about you and watched about you kind of go straight to how at 11 months old, i was the original influencer. yeah, that's it. ..in a soap ad. and i wonder, you know, looking back at that now, to have so much focus on your childhood as an adult, how does that feel? i mean, in this day and age where everybody is it's, you know, it seems par for the course a little bit. but for it to have been the focal point but, you know, it... you know, my dad wasn't...
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but it was the idea that you're focusing on something. because what if that hadn't happened? or, you know, you... "did that have anything to do with it? "or was it just happenstance? " i was able to work and we were able to pay our rent. there was kind of brooke shields, the public brooke shields through all of that period and through your teenage years, and the maelstrom of
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controversy sometimes, who was the kid brooke shields, the teenager? were there spaces you could find for that? professional children's schools. test or certification that would allow me in, you know, a couple months. i went to regular schools in the city all of those decisions that were made for me, but then also made by me as i got older, perpetuated me at the actual age i was in. whenever we travelled, instead of being the only little kid,
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you know, injapan, and so there was this little, um... we had this, like, we can make fun of people and giggle and be kids and not feel like i was the only one that was a kid in a sea of uncaring adults. and it's been said of you before, brooke, but for everything you went through so young about life is remarkable. i mean, it could have thrown... and there have been countless others you know, to retain a sense of... ..calm in the storm, i suppose. you know, i, um... it was a perfect storm in a way. living in new york, going to regularschools, um...
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..you know, being raised by parents who were, you know, had very strong standards and, um... and then there was a stubbornness in me that didn't want anybody else to win. and the vitriol and the attacks and the... ..and the drugs and the alcohol and all these things... then i would have been a victim to something and that infuriated me. and it did... even if i didn't... if i wasn't able to be articulate about it. i think i was doing my version of it younger,
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and what's reality and what isn't reality, what you have control over, was liberating to me. like, i don't have to become an addict because i don't like the way it looks or, i don't know, something in mejust thought, "oh, no. i'm not going to lose." when i was reading about you, that word "control" is interesting in the context of your life-— where you have, even as a child, "to the degree that i can." right. right? whether it was your mother who was an alcoholic or whether it was being on set. "right, i need to be able
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to control something "and this is how i'm going to do it"? i think i developed other things that fall into that category of, um, survival. i was very neat. i was borderline ocd because if something felt out of control, i redid my filofax or i refolded my sweaters or there was... and that's... ..that�*s a function of being a child of an alcoholic as well. one of the many. it can go either way. it can flip to, or, "no—one can tell me i can't, you know, "shave my head and go..." whatever. and so i always tried to look at the biggest view of a picture that i could and say, "ok, what can i control?" and then as i got older,
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worrisome, less toxic, less of a reaction. and it became, oh, i can, actually, if there's something i don't like about myself, it's up to me. were film sets nice places for you as a kid? were they places where you felt in control, or...? you talk about control? you get a call sheet, you have times on the call sheet, there's numbers and times and addresses. from pretty baby on. and you know what to expect the next day. you know what the routine is. there's something so comforting about that because you know what to expect.
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they like you and they reward you for that. and then you get another call sheet. ..to prove that i could... ..i could tear tape as fast as a gaffer and then that was when we used to actually have the, you know, the clapper that was a chalkboard, and i would get to do the clapboard and... family? like family? absolutely, like a family. that was something that sometimes took me a week to get over. because you don't understand at a young age most of those people, i never saw again.
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but everything when you're on a movie set is... it's because it's common. it's a common goal. you all are working together as a team to make the day, to get that... experience where everybody�*s job is important. i'd go to a new place, for the most part my mom was safe... or at a pub in the neighbourhood. don't get me wrong. i was going to say... she drank till the two minutes before she died. i mean, i can see, for you, with that,
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that's an elixir. that's just... and... that's safety. it's safety and it behoves them... you don't know that they really only care about the money and getting their, you know, or 15—year—old, it's a respite. and then they had to take care of her, you know, that would drive her home. so now she's not driving. you get to maybe buy your apartment or a car. and the irony is that the movie sets were the sense of safety and normalcy, which is rare. you described this sweet scene that you had, this, again, it feels to me like another control thing, of separating yourself from the role, and you would, i don't know... i don't know.
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what was it exactly? you'd do that. um, ithink... so i don't think i ever really looked at what i did as a craft. i was never nurtured as an actress. i had to show up and stand in my light on a spot and say words that were given to me, you know? ..adept at it, very comfortable with it, and i think that it felt a little bit, um,
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and maybe it was in a stunt or a... and for one second, i would... ..brooke would get scared or i would get hurt or something, and those moments were so terrifying to me. because what if? you know, what if...? what if something really did happen that was bad and...? and so i thought, "ok, you cannot let these characters "be your real life." the minute it starts to be your real life, well, newsflash, or become a better actress, ..but where does brooke go? like, i think that there was just, like, i didn't know but if i could keep my sense of humour and be brooke the clown,
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that i had a real life. tell me about this one. and i love the title. brooke laughs brooke shields is not allowed to get old. um... it's sort of a concept that we... the james deans and the marilyn monroes and we would talk about it, and when you... i'm not comparing myself to any of those people, and your persona, your look, your whatever, is a focal point, if that person dies looking like that person, that we imprinted on,
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um... but if you are one of those people and you become imprinted on at a young age, a youthful face, i mean, marilyn monroe is a perfect example. if i saw her as an 80—year—old woman, i'd go, "oh, but she's in there somewhere." like, you miss her. and thought of, or whatever it is. and so i think psychologically, it's a very interesting thing. but from a person who's that person, you really have to do a lot of work on yourself internally, to be ok with not also being disappointed with yourself.— because you... i don't look...
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everything's lower, and... yeah. it was a shock to me the first time i saw a wrinkle on a monitor, because i thought something was in the film. they got a hair on the lens. yeah, it's got to be a hair in the lens.— definitely in italy and france, there is a certain respect and reverence for beauty, mature beauty. we don't... we have not figured that out yet. and i think, i'm hoping to contribute to that. um, but it goes beyond youth—obsessed. you know, it's, um...
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is there... i mean, and i think particularly, it is more for women and i've been thinking of it as i'm getting to 60, i think ageing is hard, but i think it might be... i was wondering if it's even more complicated for somebody whose life has been defined by something they did when they were so young. i think i got lucky in the fact that somewhere along the line, beyond the surface and looks and beauty, what you were known for. mm-hm. and i couldn't see what other people saw.
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um... but i knew i needed to have other things. so when you start to write books, and learn different skills — broadway, speaking — the onus onjust looking a certain way, or on "the face of a decade", but i nurtured other things always as a response to it not being just about beauty. in writing the book, have you also... and maybe just in the process of growing older — and you and i
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are there upsides to being your age now there's so many upsides. delve into them, you understand why this is a prime of our life, in a way, not our biological clock, that we operate by. so there's just like forward, ooh! your kids start leaving, or you start, your time starts looking different differently and actually like what you see and who you are.
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that you actually have talent. like, its all these things and you sort ofjust... you don't wake up and mind your sags and everything, but you just kind of go, "i mean, i got this far, "i healed from pretty crazy stuff, so there's this... i was at a premiere the other night for broadway and, like, everybody who was famous was there, you know, from andrew lloyd webber to, i don't know, i'm sitting next to, behind anna wintour and that environment for me as a kid was just...
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if i could have brought my autograph book, i would have. and i was in awe, always, and until, like, not too long ago, sort of at the lower and looked up to them as successful because of their talent. attributed to myself. says the woman who went to princeton. yeah, that's the crazy piece, right? and i walked around, not with any type of arrogance or anything like that, with a comfort
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and could walk up to people, introduce myself or say hi. knew most of them or had met them before. and i went back and i sat down and i said to the friend who was with me, i said, "i think i finally understand all of this." to not be intimidated and love their talent. i don't have to be... have never been jealous. i've been intimidated. scared that i'm not good enough. it's not even envy. and i can be good enough. i'm as good as whatever i used to hold up on a pedestal. and you know, that took decades. i don't feel like a fraud
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hello. does not look as severe or as impactful. the impactful weather on sunday came courtesy of this area of low pressure. that has been driven by a rather strong and fairly straight jet stream. once again, we've seen some very cold air push out the us and canada firing up thatjet stream, which helps it develop that means our weather is going to be much more changeable are expected to be around average. now, as we go through the first day of the week, monday sees the remnants of sunday's rain just clearing away from the southeast corner early doors. and eastwards across england and wales but sunshine
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and whilst winds are generally lighter than we have seen through sunday, we could still see them touch gale force we should be around nine or ten. showers push in from the west. that's linked into an area of low pressure but with some clearer skies and slightly cooler air into lower single figures. for tuesday itself, there's that air of low in the southeast corner to begin with, with some rain and cloud. that will break up. sunshine and showers, then, for the day, winds over the last few days. and with that, the showers
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across scotland and northern ireland could be wintry on the hills. more widespread frost then to take us through into wednesday. push its way in. but it could link into some more persistent rain towards the southwest later on. the sunshine hazy. like a pretty pleasant day. showers to speak of. and into friday as high pressure builds its way in, though a bit more widely. the weather fronts that were there will just decay in situ, leaving a legacy of cloud across southern light rain or drizzle that will drift a bit further northwards
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many, though, will be dry. there will be a weather front getting close by to the north west later in the day. so through the weekend it does look like whilst there will be some showers around, mainly scotland, northern ireland, saturday, england pressure is set to build towards the south, low pressure close to the north west and so further away from that low pressure take care.
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