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this is barbaric. a whole line of traffic for as far as the eye can putin is the aggressor. putin chose this war. we remain united to keep pressure mounting on putin.

putin would not have started that war if i were president. we're looking to do a deal with ukraine, where they're earth and other things. well, you've been there for three years. you could have made a deal. disinformation space. european leaders are backing the ukrainians. ukraine is a democracy. putin's russia is not.

they've taken a lot of territory, so they have the cards. i think i have the power to end this war. it's exactly three years since russia launched its full—scale trump said tonight. i think we could end it within weeks, if we're smart. and remember what i said. i hope that's right,

but i feel it's right. four weeks. will be as a peacemaker and a unifier. troops could be sent into ukraine once a peace agreement had been and most of europe. your panel tonight:

welcome, both of you. thank you for with welcome, both of you. thank you for nick, the two presidents in with us. nick, the two presidents in �*spray as they with us. nick, the two presidents in �* spray as they call it and the formal press conference more formal press conference tonight. how did come across? macron in a sense the emmanuel macron in a sense told the show and he did two really big things in the white house today. firstly, he praise on firstly, he lavished praise on donald he has form for doing donald trump. he has form for doing that and is quite good at doing that. there was a of that. there was a lot of dear donald. the brownie points he won that created s-ace for the doing that created space for the french president �*a doing that created space for the french presi| home �*a doing that created space for the french presi| home truth �*a doing that created space for the french presi| home truth to a fundamental home truth to donald trump, which is that you cannot a word vladimir putin trust a word that vladimir putin says. and emmanuel macron cited the trust a word that vladimir putin says. an in mmanuel macron cited the trust a word that vladimir putin says. an in the anuel macron cited the trust a word that vladimir putin says. an in the days. macron cited the trust a word that vladimir putin says. an in the days before n cited the trust a word that vladimir putin says. an in the days before the :ed the example in the days before the russian invasion �* ukraine in 2022, russian invasion of ukraine in 2022, he effectively accused

t” 7 of lying of lyin to him. of lying to him. denying putin of lying to him. denying that he was going to that. so having he was going to do that. so having established that you cannot trust what vladimir says, what vladimir putin says, emmanuel then his mayan. then. delivered his alaaalutaly message, which is any core message, which is that any peace deal must be by peace deal must be underpinned by security guarantees for ukraine. he m sa in a sim-le accord, a -eace won't be enouh. have been accord won't be enough. we have been there before, it is as minsk accord won't be enough. we have been thei and fore, it is as minsk accord won't be enough. we have been thei and two, it is as minsk accord won't be enough. we have been thei and two, the as minsk accord won't be enough. we have been thei and two, the as n after one and two, the agreements after the russian aggression a decade the russian aggression a deeadeage; he said the russian aggression a deoadeago; he said france, the and and he said france, the uk and other, powers would willing to european powers would be willing to send troops not to disputed send troops not to the disputed areas of ukraine, but other of areas of ukraine, but other parts of ukraine to as an assurance ukraine to act as an assurance forceful stop but he saidthatyou us solidarity does it sound like president yousaf, does it sound like president macron has succeeded in securing those guarantees? are macron has succeeded in securing those i guarantees? macron has succeeded in securing thorl i guarantees? macron has succeeded in securing tho: i have uarantees? macron has succeeded in securing tho: i have lost ntees? macron has succeeded in securing tho: i have lost count? macron has succeeded in securing tho: i have lost count of how many; and i have lost count of how many times_ and i have lost count of how many times i_ and i have lost count of how many times i have said this the last

7 a tnsatlaic alliance years of a transatlantic alliance practically being undone in a week -- living _ practically being undone in a week —— living through history. that chan-e next week dependin- on could change next week depending on _ trump— could change next week depending on _ trump is— could change next week depending on _ trump is in- could change next week depending on trump is in on what mood donald trump is in on what he chooses _ what mood donald trump is in on what he chooses to say. in terms of = -= whuhd” wlhght macron, but he did well. i thought he was _ macron, but he did well. i thought he was assured. i he did he was assured. i thought he did what _ he was assured. i thought he did what he — he was assured. i thought he did what he had to in terms of massaging donald _ what he had to in terms of massaging donald trump's stratospheric have to do that we trump you have to do that we donald trump to anywhere. but he was also fr: _; m" ' 7 his arm on donald trum- at putting his arm on donald trump at one - to — putting his arm on donald trump at one to correct one of the one point to correct or - we one point to correct oneotthe one point to correct one of the we will show that clip inaccuracies. we will show that ol- what inaccuracies. we will show that clip - what he inaccuracies. we will show that clip what he didn't get for all later. what he didn't get for all of that bonhomie, he didn't that bonhomie, what he didn't get that bonhomie, what he didn't get that guarantee on security. and was that guarantee on security. and when _ was that guarantee on security. and when donald took his social when donald trump took to his social media _ when donald trump took to his social media - truth _ when donald trump took to his social media truth which is an a ccu ra cy accuracy if ever i - accuracy if ever i heard - - accuracy if ever i heard want iron accuracy if ever i heard want to post _ iron accuracy if ever i heard want to post about the meeting with macron, — to post about the meeting with macron, he didn't mention security so macron, he didn't mention security _ so the _ macron, he didn't mention security _ so the job _ macron, he didn't mention security so the job not done by

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tanks. drones. the uk old—fashioned tanks, drones. the uk could _ old—fashioned tanks, drones. the uk could actually— old—fashioned tanks, drones. the uk could actually have _ old—fashioned tanks, drones. the uk could actually have i really _ rmrldactuauy—hamemaflse _ [m7— rmrldactuauy—hamemaflse _ m- _ place in the military z: _—7 2 development ri-ht 7 7 development ri-ht nw industrial development right now because — industrial development right now because it — industrial development right now because it has _ industrial development right now because it has a _ industrial development right now because it has a lot of— because it has a lot of fantastic drone — because it has a lot of fantastic drone technology, _ because it has a lot of fantastic drone technology, it _ because it has a lot of fantastic drone technology, it i a i because it has a lot of fantastic drone technology, it i a real| drone technology, it has a real strength in— drone technology, it has a real strength in - in - drone technology, it has a realj strength in- in terms of strength in military in terms of europe — strength in military in terms of europe it _ strength in military in terms of europe. it has— strength in military in terms of europe. it has _ an i europe. it has potentially an entrepreneurial— europe. it has potentially an entrepreneurial culture, i europe. it has potentially ani entrepreneurial culture, a lot of universities _ entrepreneurial culture, a lot of universities like _ and - and london and f _ and london and othersi _ and london and others that oxford and london and others that could _ oxford and london and others that could i in terms _ oxford and london and others that could i in terms of _ oxford and london and others that could i in terms of pushing i could help in terms of pushing up forward — could help in terms of pushing up forward it— could help in terms of pushing up forward. it really— could help in terms of pushing up forward. it really is— could help in terms of pushing up forward. it really is| huge - could help in terms of pushing up. forward. it really is| huge wake—up ; -:7 ; _77 ; 7—7 7 thawe have disease 7 % thatvve have disease urgently? right now. glasgow university is fabulous . well! _ right now. glasgow university is fabulous . well! without i right now. glasgow university is fabulous . well! without any i right now. glasgow university is i fabulous . well! without any bias! fabulous as well! without any bias! i fabulous as well! without any bias! i don't _ fabulous as well! without any bias! i don't disagree with that, but we i don't disagree with that, -.. say i don't disagree with that; buewe -m i don't disagree with that, but—we should say that comes at a cost. even if— should say that comes at a cost. even if you are to increase defence spending _ even if you are to increase defence spending by 1% or half a percent. you are _ spending by 1% or half a percent. you are talking tens of billions of i have -iifl i have in downin- pounds. i have been in downing street— pounds. i have been in downing street seen the extravagance, street and seen the extravagance, but e20 _ street and seen the extravagance, but £20 billion is not behind that over and that e“, will have to come fon1 fom health education .: 2:77 z :_77 and education and transport and justice _ and education and transport and justice i a — and education and transport and justice a time when the prime justice at a time when the f '.e tells justice at a time whenthe—pr'rme -m_ justice at a time whenthe—pr'rme - tells us he

justice at a time when the prime tells us he has set plan alon-side the ? chancellor to turn our economy around — chancellor to turn our economy around _ for- chancellor to turn our economy around. for sure around. a silver lining for sure around — around. a silver lining for sure around the _ around. a silver lining for sure around the wake—up call, but at a cost. difficult huge cost; 2 i difficult conversations to i huge cost: :—= i difficult conversations to come very difficult conversations to come as we head towards the spending review. ijust want as we head towards the spending review. i just want to show people this clip. this was macron this clip. this was president macron correcting president trump the given give n7to given7to ukraine in the last aid given to ukraine in the last three years. just so you understand, europe is loaning the money to ukraine. no, in fact, to be frank, we paid. loans, guarantees, grants, and we provided real money, to be clear. can you imagine sir keir starmer doing that in a joint press conference with president trump on thursday? ithinklwouldetrugg - . . . .. . see starmer thursday? ithinklwouldetruge7 - . . . .. . see starmer doinu i] to see keir starmer doing that. i think— to see keir starmer doing that. i think. the _ to see keir starmer doing that. i think the way he should look at think by the way he should lookat -m_ think by the way he should look at performance if we can

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yes, there have not been any elections in ukraine since the full—scale invasion, but that's in a way a parallel because during war, it's hard to have elections. at the un general assembly in new york, the us has voted with russia, belarus and north korea today against a resolution condemning russia's aggression in ukraine. how significant do you think that is? or splits between nato allies and the united states, europe and the united states,

but also canada, but again, consider what can we do. mr stoltenberg, thanks very much for talking to newsnight. nick, talk us through what happened at the un. so, it has been a very busy day at the un. in the last hour or so, the united nations security council the un. in the last hour or so, the united a ations security council the un. in the last hour or so, the united a us ns security council the un. in the last hour or so, the united a us ns security calling l the un. in the last hour or so, the united a us ns security calling for a passed a us resolution calling for a swift end to the war. that was swift end tb the war. that was by swift end te the war. thet was by china. supported by russia and china. france and the uk abstained, and the y why is that didn't reason why is that resolution didn't have the of language you reason why is that resolution didn't have the of lan