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13.4 billion pounds a year on defence. the money for the uplift in 2027 will come from the the international aid budget which will be cut withjohnhealey—mp — the uk secretary of state for defense — who confirmed they will increase defense a strong step from an enduring partner." let's cross live our political correspondent iain watson. take us to the in the sort of political reaction you have heard. is
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the sort of political reaction you have heard.— you have heard. is been widespread _ you have heard. is been widespread political - you have heard. is been - widespread political reaction we re were some people a-ree increase defence the increase in defence spending, there's been criticism of �* it will be criticism of how it will be funded like the cuts you funded like the cute dc: you pointed out, and less of have pointed out, and less of our, david and even the liberal democrats praised the increase internet percent, his internet percent, something his party had gone for but the money should come in different meneyrsheuld terse—in different for example, meneyrsheutd ceme—in different for example, russian ways fer exempteegueeienm . . .,, taxing ways fer exempteeflueeienr— . . .,, taxing the text assets in taxing the text giants —— tech. and stabilising countries which are currently cduntriesewhieh are currently cutting in difficulties, cutting overseas aid also critical overseas aid and also critical inside the labour party, will be widespread support �*the in defence s-cendin increase in defence spending and there will be voices suggesting that the money again and there will be voices sl coming ; that the money again and there will be voices sl coming from the money again and there will be voices sl coming from the wrong v again and there will be voices sl coming from the wrong place 1 is coming frdm'the—wrcxhg'plece so the is coming frdm'the—wrcxhg'plsce so the labour mp who chairs eee ee tfiée [eeeef lr*in fiffifi efie'rfe cross eee efi eee leefiur fef eee eee're cross party eee ee eee leeeef eef eee eeeee cross party development the cross party development
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committee and the thing tame the ipp supporting of this and given the former labour cabinet minister is in charge of minister who is in charge of the international charity which been critical : been critical as w brerenrcriticalzas well £25235ch 5;th gna’ ' charities have eee'eeele feeht'ee eeeeeeee in on this and piling in on this and politically from keir starmer�*s u7= of view 7 ' qf'cigv} £35; able ' ' sf'cigv} £35; able to ' point of view to be able to see his increase in defence budget cutting overseas aid in the and cutting overseas aid in the few minutes' time and putting the of the nations times, the political downing street messages inside downing street they think it's done 5 well with well with voters particularly well with voters attempting reform nyjah attempting td refdrrn nyjeh and the attempting ta refarrn nyjah and the 90 seats were one of �* one of the general labour one of the general election and that kind of election, and that kind af may appeal election and that kind af may appeal to but message may appeal to them but as you are suggesting, it comes as you are suggesting, it comes a couple of days before that a eeupte ef days eefere that ~ . , , to donald a aaupte af days laefare that ~ . , , to donald trump and not visit ta dahatdlrurrtp and eat it is had some surprising it is had some praise from the us defence secretary because it was designed to elicit that to be able to see the donald trump listened to the message, listened ta the message countries listened ta the message; countries should listened te the message
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countries should be european countries should be spending more defence we are stepping up do it it is stepping upta da it it is a of the possibility of increasing the risks even further will put that off until the next parliament, the increase of 3% of but does that of gdp but it does mean that she will be listened to she will be listened te when he sees the she will be listened te when he ones the she will be listened te when he on thursday. american president on thursday. i can see sitting here just the number of television feeds from downing street inside and we cannot actually show that z qiiliiéwiiue, ' " conference but all the while, pictures are coming in as soon pictures are earning-in as seen this pictures are cemingin as scan this neserseeeee starts, as this news conference starts, five minute time, will we will showcase it. what donald trump is been pushing donald trump'is iaeen pushing for a donald trump'is been pushing for a long time, and forfor a long time, and strategy does this make strategy —wise, does this make sense to do this given perhaps some of the discussions are to be really quite tough going to be really quite tough around supporting ukraine and
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not making every single concession to russia? absolutely that is correct because it'd been set previously by downing street if get this pathway to increased defence and complete eeeeeee eeeeeee eeeeee�*e�*eee defence �* and eeeeeee eeeeeee eeeeee�*e�*eee defence �*and it the defence review and it hasn't appeared as yet until perhaps june hasn't appeared as yet until perhaszune this year but perhapa lune thie year but ”we "ene of perhapsjune this year but 'h' ,. "fl w of that meeting with agiggaédgofthat meeting with trump, i agigggédgofthat meeting with trump, ithink agigggédgofthat meeting with trump, i think it is donald trump, i think it is necessary for keir to necessary for keir starmer to say the very least, will meet you halfway and to you you halfway and listen to you and there is a need to do -e—— fund the defence and up and return z 1 and return what is disraine ane return hew... is ”’ ” "'”’ ’ for and disraine ane return hew... is w' w "ww ’ for and no looking for and there's no guarantee he get a is looking z-==£ z==£ 1—1 e is if there i; a e e is if there i; a peace 7 e is if there is a peace deaf for is if there is a peace deal in you're bound the us in ukraine, you're bound the us backstop and he believes only the us can provide the leverage of deterrence stop russian coming back for more and for coming back for more and their cover for example for coming back for more and their coverfor example i it is necessary if you think it is necessary if you concede in advance of that important meeting and try to if they emerged with some see if they emerged with some sort of is see if they emerged with some sort of ,
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sort of consensus. is with the business _ sort of consensus. is with the business conference, - sort of consensus. is with the business conference, anyone | business conference, anyone just watching who wasn't earlier, the prime watching earlier, the uk prime minister made that announcement in the house of commons that minister made that announcement in ti a house of commons that minister made that announcement in ti a few se of commons that minister made that announcement in ti a few hours zommons that minister made that announcement in ti a few hours ago nons that minister made that announcement in ti a few hours ago buts that minister made that announcement in ti a few hours ago but i that minister made that announcement in ti a few hours ago but i want eeeeisplay edieplay 7 755131? 7 w clip of that significant i clip of that significant announcement. % covernment will announcementi - government will begin - announcementi - government will begin the | increase in biggest sustained increase in spending since the biggest sustained increase in , spending since the end the e ”timid; " 7 e ”time'éoiéwéf 7 e the cold war. eli/e ”iiaéoiéwéfwe will? " 7 e of the cold war. we will deliver our to spend deliver our commitment to spend 2.5% of gdp defence. but we 2.5% of gdp on defence. but we bring into we will bring it forward into we reach that level 2027. and reach that level in 2027. and we will maintain that for the yggyill maintain that for the of this parliament and let rest of this parliament and let me spell it out, mr speaker. that spending £114 that means spending £13.4 billion more on defence every billien «when eeteneeeuif , for billien «when eeteneeeusg , for 2027. billien «when eeteneeeusg , for2027. but billien «when eeteneees'erg , for 2027. but mr speaker, year for 2027. but mr speaker, we yearfor 2027. but mr speaker, we also face enemies that is
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sophisticated and cyber attacks, sabotage and even in attagcgkstsabotage and even in and attigitsksabotage and even in and with those assassinations. and with those security and intelligence services, are incredibly vital eefe'fee eee ieefeeieleeieeeee "7” 77” ,,,., protecting both eef�*e'fee efe ieefeeieleeieeeff "f” 77” ”"f protecting both us and our to protecting both us and our allies, on top of the funding of 2.5% that i have just announced, going forward, we recognise incredible will recognise the incredible contributions of our and security intelligence and security services to the defence of the nation. this means taken together, we will spend 2.6% on our defence in 2027. but mr we must go further speaker, we must go further still. i've argued in the face ongoing of ongoing generational challenges, all european allies must step up and do more for our own defence. and so, subject to the economic and physical in the physical conditions in the line with our operational needs, we will also set a clear frdiefenfcfe” w f ediefenicieispéindingii f ffdfefenbefspeedfitho f
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ed’efe’nfcferpendithio rise ”diefeinicieispernditho rise to for defence spending to rise to 3% of gdp in the next h; of (ed? intbesuezctss ., . parliament. jonathan beal, this was his assessment. _ parliament. jonathan beal, this was his assessment. if - parliament. jonathan beal, this was his assessment. if you - parliament. jonathan beal, this| was his assessment. if you look what is was his assessment. if you look i what is happened _ was his assessment. if you look i what is happened i the i at what is happened oversthe a we” a, he . ,, decades and at what is happened overvvthe s vssss vss svs v vs decades and notjust past decades and it's notjust the it is labour the conservatives, it is labour before them in the armed forces were out and we better were “a"ae“ *�* and we hette“ ' ' ' ~ in numbers and were “a"aea *�* and we hette" ' ' ' ~ in numbers and those are u-oin to numbers are going to increase this we better withthis meney'but we better in capabilities withthie meney'but we better in capabilities in reduction in capabilities in other words, the kit and the equipment they have their equipment they have in their ambitions and look at some of those big look at the eis— war what is ez= 7 war what is the ukraine toward us, any long—range " thefhffffarmyf " ti]; ffarmthanf” four t1 for ranged f four t1 for ranged weapons 1a, four t1 for ranged weapons and they need more. britain, they have f they have a f they have a handful f they have a handful of f defencé f defence systems and f defencé systems and they air defence systems and they have short range ones as they recognise that they recoghise that they but they recognise that they need more. when you look at the
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�* deterrent and what it's nuclear deterrent and what it's going to be renewed and be more ggiryg to be renewed and be more on developing new spent on developing new and building warheads and building submarines, they want to build new jet: new jetfwith new f jetfwith japan a new'fighterejet with japan italy. the combat and italy. the global combat programme but look at that, 2.5% ain't gonna get all they want so, they will have decisions decision; they difficuit’decisions but they been asking ditficuit’decisions but they been asking for this money am mm a [on time and the fact for a long time and the fact it's accelerated, for a long time and the fact are accelerated, for a long time and the fact are not accelerated, for a long time and the fact are not going erated, for a long time and the fact are not going to. ted, for a long time and-thefact i�* are not going to.- for a long time a i�* are not going to. few minutes, f few minutes, the few minutes, the news reported that norway and agency reported that norway and denmark will increase their cooperation on defence so that has just made announcement has just been made and let's head to downing and ian that street and ian watson, that is eess—e eve line street and ian watson, that is weew ee line from interesting that line from norway and denmark a motive seen today from the uk because as a result of everything we have seen from donald trump in ssvss sgfssssse, ss es s sf ”1512525; 77 f some of those'stateme'nts that and shocked european
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so alarmed and shocked european it has generated real leaders, it has generated real visited? v, , action, visited? donald trump can take that _ action, visited? donald trump can take that as _ action, visited? donald trump can take that as a _ action, visited? donald trump can take that as a victory i action, visited? donald trump can take that as a victory and | can take that as a victory and they've spent more to do more on their own and that is on their own behalf and that is they're doing. but what they're doing. but another aspect �* it and i think z= leaders were genuinely european leaders were genuinely shocked some things donald shocked by some things donald trump is done with a second term. at the prospect was fictional people thought was fictional sometime ago the united states voting same as and north korea on russia and north korea on the motion on ending the f 7 �*in ukraine and f �* in ukraine and britain and abstaining from the abstainir i from the f ' abstainiflithinkithei " abstainir i think we have united nations. i think we have seen this more from the forthcoming german chancellor, he is suggested that perhaps he is suggested'that'perhaps has to be more europe has to be more independent there are some independent and there are some fears how much support in fears about how much support in the future people get from the thegfuture people get from the states and as they're thegfuture people get from the to ates and as they're thegfuture people get from the to ate more as they're thegfuture people get from the to ate more as the �*re thegfuture people get from the to ate more as the way willing to dosrvnore by the way willing to dosrvnore by the way will be played by keir it will eeetatee lee pcir this week is to say
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you . wages; you have asked —e= =e= this and are this and f ere delivering this are are delivering this are listening elivering this are listening to lering this are listening to you but and we are listening to you but please listen to us on ukraine and please do not give too much ground to vladimir it and please do not give too much grol so to vladimir it and please do not give too much grol so interesting it and please do not give too much grol so interesting listening to was so interesting listening to keir in the house of keir starmer in the house of commons and is that because two or announcement because two or three times and the question, returned to the fact that he he returned to the fact that he did not want to make a choice america and europe and between america and europe and he he is going to be he said, he is going to be forced into position forced into that position and you can see the line he is f to navigate trying to navigate here. it's a ve bi trying to navigate here. it's a very his line _ trying to navigate here. it's a very big line and _ trying to navigate here. it's a very big line and was - trying to navigate here. it's a very big line and was also i very big line and was also interesting and clearly to donffald ffbanfaidff tfifll thursda , to thursday. to deepen before thursday, to deepen european defence, and how that is there on f fizffchzfef snffseffiafiff f fizffchefef safbefifiafiffoff f statementis'there on behalf of nations and scandinavian nations and i think these talks going on as well and keeping in touch with president and president trump yesterday but is also going to be an as we understand be an meeting as we understand it and this weekend, in the uk
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and european leaders, some attending in person and some discussin - dichussing fast—moving aeain dffsffnc fast—"mes ~ ~ ~ ~ and also discussing situations and also discussing web president and by then, our prime minister has own prime minister has been discussing behind closed doors donald trump too and they with donald trump too and they think there is a feeling that quite that the status quite clearly that the status quo can no hold in due can he lender held; in www—ww it's up due can he lenger hale in w , it's up to respond in europe it's up to respond in a very way under a 2:2 “he dffeent admnftatfin in the ~ ~ ~ , ~ , , "7 house. mm ~ white house for the prime minister as soon as he does, to arrive as soon as he does, will return to those we will return to those pictures we are round we will return to those pict minute, |re round we will return to those pict minute, the round we will return to those pict minute, the lot round we will return to those pict minute, the lot of round we will return to those pict minute, the lot of the round any minute, the lot of the details are to be worked out but is there a broader assessment because there is strategic review that is that strategic review that is being done in terms of defence we now know that there's going being done in terms of defence w: be iw know that there's going being done in terms of defence w: be more w that there's going being done in terms of defence w: be more moneythere's going being done in terms of defence w: be more money and 5's going being done in terms of defence w: be more money and 5's gt do we to be more money and what do we think they're going to spend it f pa i’fth ff pa rfth offfthe parfth offfthe armed on? what parts of the armed services and what, exactly?
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there is a range of and then we possibilities and then we should be clear about this as and 13.1» billion to be in going into the going to be in going into the defence budget and cornoared s we sees” e ,s s, the budget going to 2027 f f f 2027wickets f f 2027 wickets upflfift f 2027 wickets upflfift cfomments an 2027 wickets uplift comments on be worth like £6 on be worth more like £6 billion on the independent institute for fiscal studies is likely to be anunnecessarily bounty or perhaps go to huge bounty or perhaps go up to 3% presuming that he is able ilii, in zozo in 2030 and you reelected in 2030 and you cannot hold future to that. some administrations to that. some of more important missile system britain we re werfe apparently lack which were apparently lack which were apparently lack which is more complicated to do and that has been talk of need for more missile defence systems potentially as well as having greater of
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having greater amount of weaponry. there's also going to a boost to defence around the because there will be country because there will be more and aircraft, more procurement and aircraft, and reversing cuts to the armed forces themselves and 10,000 fewer the army will fewer soldiers in the army will have to wait see if that have to wait and see if that strategic defence for some strategic defence and for some the lessons uk citizens, they seemed to in the seemed to be in the latter. and the children is to scrap f is terrible and the the cuts is terrible and the poorest and talk roads poorest children and talk to the chair �*the to the chair of the international development and said they were committee and said they—were by this decision. is blindsided by this decision. is there a chance of a rethink at tee'e a ”five “5 e rethnk vet do thee a chan'e *f e e�*h-s'f at do you thee a chan'e *f e ethnk at do you about where all, do you think about where the money is coming not the rnoneyissconting front. not increase in defence ff ffbut f ffffbdt f the f ff ff ffbut f the money f but f the money is spending but where the money is from? absolutely is something f is something that we see this is something that we see as politically advantageous to keir starmer cutting this budget, increasing defence... i was iwasa i was a young man when the
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