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with any of these set piece events with donald trump — as well as the middle east. consequential meeting. joins us for a momentous day in uk—us relations. we are the white house the uk prime minister e the rain with him, that brought the rain with him, that is why i'm this is why i'm holding this umbrella, and keir umbrella, and already keir has his umbrella, and already keir fors his umbrella, and already keir for today, his umbrella, and already keir for today, hes umbrella, and already keir for today, he is on z— 2—— 7 at the moment céetfil “1125552 mam?“ members c33331'411333'13 mam?“ members of c33331 “11333h3 m3m3h3 members of congress, meeting members of congress, because it is important to convince president trump of the need for support for ukraine but any funding and 5�* troops 77 troops would deployment of troops would also need congressional so isa ”157131379" w " 5131379753}? " " is 1311953; bf " 77 is 1311953; bf iii; 7 7 w 77 ”iqiiqqjqaeqf iiiq qiqit 7” 3h33 i3 3 33x! 3333335335933 . . , later 3h33 i3 3 h3¥ 3333335335933 . . , later that he to washington. later that he will arrive at the white house where he will be greeted by trump and will pr3sid3nt4rflmp33nd th3y will into the oval office go into the oval office and they briefly speak to the

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about the importance and what the president decides about the war in ukraine is top of the agenda for today's talks. a quick ceasefire. in the years ahead. he's hoping the promise of more uk defence spending and, yes, i'm here to meet another close friend of the united kingdom, president trump.

and my message is really simple — that there is no more important relationship for the united kingdom the prime minister also met business leaders, making the case for more trade with the us and investment in al, despite mr trump's promise to impose 25% tariffs and, you know, taking out a chainsaw isn't quite my style. but we are stripping away red tape and bureaucracy. the hard talking comes later, on which much depends. james landale, bbc news.

joining me now is michael martins, a partner at overton advisory in london, who was at the us thanks forjoining us. in that report from the from the prime ambassador, from the prime minister, talk about the special relationship how minister, talk about the special relatio the p how minister, talk about the special relatio the p ho is in consequential the visit is in the context of ukraine, the context dftlkreine3;3sd how is this the context oftlkreinerso how is this visit? it the context oftlkreinerso how a is this visit? it the context oftlkreinerso how a consequential|is visit? it the context oftlkreinerso how a consequential visit;it? it the context oftlkreinerso how a consequential visit and it the context oftlkreinerso how a consequential visit and i — -— keir starmer has done a job ”:””””2” ”33533”; 3””'” job of softening the good job of softening the ground, coming out with the spending increase and defence spending increase and talking about investment into the us uk businesses and the us from uk businesses and at the same he is coming at the same time he is coming with the fact he is asking for with the f3ct he is 3shin 33" , american with the f3ct he is 3shihq 33" , american hard power an american hard power guarantee in the ukraine ceasefire, and that will be a big cars because president trump be instinctively big cars because president trump to )e instinctively big cars because president trump to it instinctively

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they are trying to muddy the waters a bit in terms of “ata= a hit “13 tar-w!“ " " '” ” ' sovereignty 33333 a hit “13 tar-“sf 333333333333333333 soverei-nty —— “ata= a hit “13 tar-w!“ " " '” ” ' sovereignty —— the ukrainian savereighty 33 tha has from russia. �* keir starmer compress that if keir starmer compress that point it will also potentially 7: 27 the mindset 7 the mindset of shift the mindset of president trump and give a of 7 7 leveraged, 7 leveraged, can 7 7 leveraged, can he7 having leveraged, what can he get out of it, that is a way having leveraged, what can he get out if it, that is a way having leveraged, what can he get out i don't1at is a way having leveraged, what can he get out i don't think a way having leveraged, what can he get out i don't think the |y having leveraged, what can he get out i don't think the way saying, i don't think the way to tell president trump about is to it is 23—2 :7-=: it is more about what wrong, it is more about what keir starmer can offer him when it to the us it samas ta tha'tststtsssia ~ ~ 3 and i think you would a of benefit in that find a lot of benefit in that avenue. ~ 3, 3, find a lot of benefit in that avenue-— find a lot of benefit in that avenue. ~ 3, 3, , 3, avenue. wa waists saaxshat 3 later on. avenue. wa waiting saaxshat - later on. michael, they say later on. michael, thanks for us. we will have all of that here late in the programme but for 3 �*back late in the programme but for 3 �* back over to you. thank now back over to you. thank you. we are expecting the first from the 77

from the white 7 from the white house we 7 7117151111177 77 w7e7w1llalso 13; 5117171 $1501.46; [efer eéfe qe'tt elee he�*ee tiie7777 77 7777 77777 "7 from first cammehts fram the that first cammehts fram tha that will happen the programme777 717113 5103511171117; today. in on at least a dozen presidential meetings. are the dos and don'ts of this meeting when it comes to keir starmer?’ this meeting when it comes to keir starmer? we all accept he is dealin: keir starmer? we all accept he is dealing with _ keir starmer? we all accept he is dealing with a _ keir starmer? we all accept he is dealing with a president - is dealing with a president no other who has frankly like no other who has gone before, and very different even to the one that donald trump was in his first term. more nationalistic in the he himself, bullish and a- -ressive, confident. in terms much more confident. in terms dos, be very clear about the of dos, be very clear about the you want to land messages yas—wahtta land? with in so messages yas'wahtta land? with in so far as possible,

him, in so far as possible, make them messages you him, in so far as possible, ma landing messages you him, in so far as possible, ma landing with messages you him, in so far as possible, ma landing with the messages you him, in so far as possible, ma landing with the public, 1ges you are landing with the public. be very about what and be very clear about what you want the to be you want the impression to be upon him and on the broader span him and ant—ha braadar as previous guest public. as the previous guest said, keir �* has set it e 7 very very well, and i think up very well, and i think everybody around the world their leader 7 their leader to have their leader to have the wants their leader to have the hugh love actually a hsgh grant lave actsatty a you stand alongside president 7 77 president of 77 president of the 77 president of the us 77 president of the us and 77 president of the us and lay the president of the us and lay into but that is into him, but that is a don't. i agree 2 -—e with matthew, 77 with matthew, 7t7he again. with matthew; 31133... ~ ~ 3 ~ guest, and again. with matthew; thew ~ ~ 3 ~ guest, and i thought macron 7macron got 77 7macron got the 77 president macron got the balance right flattery balance right between flattery and he balance right between flattery and 3 . m and demands. he did fact check at one stage — and demands. he did fact check at one stage and _ and demands. he did fact check at one stage and is _ and demands. he did fact check at one stage and is that - at one stage and is that important? if the same thing happens where he things haaaehs where he sass thihas are not factually true. that are not factually true. what president macron fact

checked him about, repeated checked him about, he repeated the first cabinet meeting yesterday. what should keir starmer do in this regard? this etarrner da in this regard? 3 3 3 ~ 3 why it starmer da in this regard? 3 3 3 ~ 3 why it is so to is why it is so difficult to with trump are right that president gas are right that president” ' " ' 3 " corrected on that macron corrected him on that specific thing but that 7 77 71711737177 157.113? 7 77 711173717777c5111di7av7e77 7 77 71711737177 77could7f71av7e7done that that gas casts hass'dahs'” ”” on, and that that gas aasta hass'daha'” ”” on, and it has to the that on, and it has to be, the point i made earlier, if it relates to one of the key points you are going to be trying to to the public, is worth doing. but i houiid it is worth doing, but i would not do it by grabbing his hand �* his thigh, but the way or his thigh, but the way that macron talked about russia the and by being the aggressarhahdby the he not say, you are way, he did not say, you are progressing to limit growth war, he sahtihsihg this war. hejsst— 3 33 ——— russia was the aggressor.

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is 3 gay say on the first, do would say that on the first, do you point it out, i go back to point i made you the point i made earlier, you state �* position, you state yasr position; gas talk 33 .3. why state yasr position; gas talk 33 333 why it matters to state yasr pasitiahgyas talk 33 333 why it matters to ukraine about why it matters to ukraine and the whole of europe the world, if vladimir putin wider world, if vladimir putin is allowed to think he has won war, and you state why it important 7 7 important the 7 important the security 7 is important the security guarantees matter. if you say, 7: 77777777 a7r7e77the big guy, you 5.311; saga/1513.5 you are the big guy, you are supposed to look after the ssppased ta taak atter the guys, ssppased ta taak atter the guys, is not going little guys, that is not going to so it is about stating go work. so3it is about stating �* position. the point about your position. the point about the special the your position. the point about the specia feel the your position. the point about the specia feel we the your position. the point about the specia feel we are the your position. the point about the specia feel we are a the your position. the point about the specia feel we are a bite americans feel we are a bit needy about this, but right now if you look at the list of that are in a special if you look at the list of thetare in a special if you look at the list of thetare in a 1 of cial position, the uk is one of because we are a leading them, because we are a leading defence power in europe, so there's no on there's no point banging on about it. trump will not

about it. donald trump will not be that impressed about that. =-= ha rd facts hard facts are what matter the hard facts are what matter and i think �*getting it —e§ 7 7117157113737 77 7 7117157 11337111317 77 7 7117157 31,131: 77 7 7117157 sagas 1:3; ihta his haaa; thafha’saas �*as ihta his haaa; thafha’saas �* as a great strong himself as a great strong leader, and this is a place where real strengths means standing for values and standing up for values and . that america and the principles that america and the uk have together �*a ukflhave held together for a time. .uk3have held to. [ma stthave held to— m 3, long time. one final thought, cards do long time. one final thought, - cards do you _ long time. one final thought, - cards do you think - long time. one final thought, - cards do you think the l long time. one final thought, l - cards do you think the uk minister7 ministehbas? have not donald trump in any way seen donald trump in any way criticising vladimir putin in weeks, we have seen him recent weeks, we have seen him pick fights with ukraine and and greenland and qahada and greenland ands " ' 33 33 ~ 3 " leaders. do qahada and greenland ahdf " ' w 33 ~ 3 " leaders. do you esrapean. teaserssteagasw' 3 3 why esrapean. teaserssteagasww' w w why he is understandwhy he is doing what it actually that? what does it actually 3 for the rest of the west? mean for the rest af'the west? is upending a lot of the he is upending a lot of the

norms and conventions and the world order we took area�*s-s “s is dims isih 3333333333333 typical assassas “s is as'ha's'h a’ ' " ' ' ' typicalway, nghtee; “s is ss'hg's'h s’ ' " ' ' ' typical way, literally 7e7i177 77777 7 7 things7to w7hat breaking things to see what then emerges, do i understand why he is doing that? i cannot claim to be inside his head but i partly he wants people i think partly he wants people to that is the most powerful man in the world, he people to understand 77 he has 77 gagged; 77 77 13331353115" 77 77 iie7iiae7aeei7dea7te71§e7777 77 s’a’s’igei’d’aa’s’;" disruptor in the massive disruptor in the world and he has decided that those norms and conventions have got haflas aha’sahgshtia’hshags' aat ” go. have haflas aha’sahgshtia’hshags' gas ” go. have to argue haflas aha’sahgshsia’hshags' gas ” go. have to argue for to go. we have to argue for the parts of that we want to parts of that that we want to hold onto and i it will hold onto and i think it will make a difference, the fact starmer has said we would keir starmer has said we would defence a increase defence spending, a lot of have argued for lot of people have argued for that �* some lot of people have argued for that �*some time, and a humility 7 humility around 7 humility around that, saying “5 lw".:"—4 1-1-3!» ss3“ 3 ~ 3 333 .333 — should have done “i�* lw".:"—4 1-1-3!» ss3“ 3 vv v wv wvv v should have done earlier. 77shou7ld7777777777777 77si71oli7ltihave77 77 7 should as 7rea7l7ise7d77 77 7 7 theme a; 7rea7l7ise7d7th7e7 7 777m77 relationship was changing. but there is so much else that can

be to bear terms of be brought to bear in terms of talking about it, i would do771n a cliched do7 in a cliched way, it is -777 daily interaction between abast daitg interactiahbstwssh way intelligence work together communities work together and the military is worked ghe military is have worked �*so much, the cultural together so much, the cultural ties, and i think this is a massive for keir 35135ng challenge for keir today but 351355311333 challenge for keir today but also a huge starmer today but also a huge opportunity because this is when, these are moments when statecraft and leadership really define people's premiership, the few premiership, so the next few hours, a chance hours, there's a chance this will uk government and will define uk government and the success of that government for some time to 33 33 33333 33333377 campbell, thanks for joining us. campbell, thanks forjoining us. it is to be a crucial us. it is going to be a crucial next couple of hours and us. it is going to be a crucial nex see iple of hours and us. it is going to be a crucial nex see that >f hours and us. it is going to be a crucial nex see that play urs and us. it is going to be a crucial nex see that play outand us. it is going to be a crucial nex see that play out on bbc can see that play out on bbc news. plenty on that major news. plenty more on that major story the next little while. story in the next little while. in a few moments we are going to switch topics and get the

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