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our diplomatic correspondent, james landale reports. president zelensky arriving in the uk this morning ahead of a meeting with the prime minister and european leaders, hoping perhaps for a warmer welcome than the intemperate shouting match he got at the white house. in extraordinary furious exchanges, donald trump and his number two angrily railed at ukraine's president,
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accusing him of being disrespectful for resisting a ceasefire deal without security guarantees. with respect, it is disrespectful coming here to litigate in front of the media. don't tell us what to feel. you're in no position to dictate that. to dictate what we are going to feel. it was rude. it was brutal and unrelenting. but was it deliberate? you're not in a good position. they accused him of being ungrateful for us support. have you said thank you once? have you said thank you. you went to pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition. all words of appreciation for the united states and with that, ukraine's president was shown the white house door with no press conference, no minerals and public political execution.
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having that row. how damaging do thini give trump credit for have to give trump credit for what he did then, what america did since then and what america is still doing.— is still doing. ok. i want to ut to is still doing. ok. i want to put to use _ is still doing. ok. i want to put to use of _ is still doing. ok. i want to put to use of the _ is still doing. ok. i want to put to use of the words - is still doing. ok. i want to i put to use of the words from donald trump that directly impact you, yourjob and your ability to yourjob. when president zelensky was talking about defending his country, and donald trump says, he is gambling with world war iii, is donald trump right?— donald trump right? listen, i have spoken _ donald trump right? listen, i have spoken for _ donald trump right? listen, i have spoken for half - donald trump right? listen, i have spoken for half an - donald trump right? listen, i have spoken for half an hourl donald trump right? listen, i l have spoken for half an hour on thursday with donald trump on this boat to the microphone. we
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are friends. we work for years together and i know he is committed to bring ukraine to a durable peace. he is committed to nato. of course, he expects nato partners to spend more and mmp nato partners to spend more and ramp up defence production and he is right there. he's actually on the spot when it comes to ukraine, when it comes to nato, and we really need to work together. but to nato, and we really need to work together.— work together. but is he right when his tales _ work together. but is he right when his tales is _ work together. but is he right when his tales is a _ work together. but is he right when his tales is a landscape | when his tales is a landscape that zelensky is gambling with world war iii? that zelensky is gambling with world war m?— world war iii? listen, let me, lease, world war iii? listen, let me, please. not — world war iii? listen, let me, please. not to _ world war iii? listen, let me, please, not to be _ world war iii? listen, let me, please, not to be out - world war iii? listen, let me, please, not to be out to - world war iii? listen, let me, please, not to be out to everyi please, not to be out to every sentence yesterday uttered in the oval office but more generally, of course, it is important for ukraine to get to a durable peace as president trump said in the past and also committed to yesterday. it should not be a sort of rerun of what we start with minsk in 2014. it should not be a minsk three put has to be durable and lasting peace. and that is crucial to prevent war in the future. so there i am with
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president trump. it is important that ukraine prevails here. that the outcome is enduring and will not be challenged by the russians again. challenged by the russians aaain. , ., . challenged by the russians aaain. ., again. ok, you have said where ou are again. ok, you have said where you are with — again. ok, you have said where you are with donald _ again. ok, you have said where you are with donald trump. - again. ok, you have said wherei you are with donald trump. are you are with donald trump. are you with donald trump and he says to zelensky, you are either going to make a deal or are we are out? are you with donald trump there?- are we are out? are you with donald trump there? listen, i want to focus _ donald trump there? listen, i want to focus now _ donald trump there? listen, i want to focus now on - donald trump there? listen, i want to focus now on the - donald trump there? listen, i i want to focus now on the bigger picture and the bigger picture is... �* , , , is... but this is the bigger picture- — is... but this is the bigger picture. what _ is... but this is the bigger picture. what i _ is... but this is the bigger picture. what i told - is... but this is the bigger picture. what i told to - is... but this is the bigger - picture. what i told to present the land he — picture. what i told to present the land he is _ picture. what i told to present the land he is that _ picture. what i told to present the land he is that i _ picture. what i told to present the land he is that i think - picture. what i told to present the land he is that i think you | the land he is that i think you have to find a way to restore your relationship with donald trump and the american administration. that is important going forward. the us, i know, is very much involved in this. it was donald trump who made the opening to the russians. who broke the deadlock when it claims to peace negotiations. so they have now started. like tomorrow in london, under keir starmer�*s
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leadership, europeans coming together to really hammer out what europeans can do to support a future peace deal which is not right there so step—by—step but it is important that you start planning for this. and keir starmer�*s visit on thursday was very successful because clearly there was a common understanding that we have to work on all of that together. can you see a future where the us does stop its military support for ukraine? i us does stop its military support for ukraine? recent ft: lye-glee e’ convinced recent ft: "law? convinced that recent $5: "law? convinced that the absolutely convinced that the us wants to bring ukraine to this durable peace. it was what all the administrations senior people have told in the past, and my discussions with president trump. but obviously, what they need to get there is to make sure that we'll work together on this and it is important that president zelensky finds a way to restore his relationship with the american president and with the senior american leadership team. i discussed it yesterday with zelensky and also with keir starmer and now they will meet later today. tomorrow it
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will meeting in will be an important meeting in your beautiful capital. irate will be an important meeting in your beautiful capital.— your beautiful capital. we will aet onto your beautiful capital. we will get onto that _ your beautiful capital. we will get onto that summit - your beautiful capital. we will get onto that summit in - your beautiful capital. we will get onto that summit in just l your beautiful capital. we willi get onto that summit in just a your beautiful capital. we willi get onto but: summit in just a your beautiful capital. we willi get onto butjust lmit in just a your beautiful capital. we willi get onto butjust on t in just a your beautiful capital. we willi get onto butjust on the just a your beautiful capital. we willi get onto butjust on the idea a your beautiful capital. we will. get onto butjust on the idea of moment butjust on the idea of the us withdrawing its military support for ukraine, are nato countries in a position to fill in that gap?— in that gap? you know, let's move beyond _ in that gap? you know, let's move beyond this _ in that gap? you know, let's move beyond this question i move beyond this question because it is together. the stay all in this together. the us, ukraine, europe, that we bring ukraine this bring ukraine to a piece. this is exactly what president trump is exactly what president trump is fighting for. what we all for. we have to are fighting for. we have to make sure that, when a deal struck, that the deal is lasting. it was...- struck, that the deal is lasting. it was... am sorry to can'tjust move... am sorry to interrupt but you can'tjust can'tjust move... am sorry to interrupt but you c was ust can'tjust move... am sorry to interrupt but you c was donald move beyond it. it was donald trump himself is that either there is a deal or the trump himself is that either there is �* cannot r the trump himself is that either there is �* cannot move beyond out. you cannot move beyond that. i out. you cannot move beyond that. ~ 5, out. you cannot move beyond that. ~ ., ., ., ., that. i think i am not going to comment _ that. i think i am not going to comment on _ that. i think i am not going to comment on every _ that. i think i am not going to comment on every sentence i that. i think i am not going to - comment on every sentence which comment on every sentence which was uttered yesterday in the oval office. as i said, it was
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trump and that is important in the future. russians again in the future. again, as happened in 2014 after crimea and to be minsk accords, because there were no security guarantees in place. lasley, secretary general, the eu foreign policy chief saying the free world needs a new leader. does it? the free world needs a new leader. does it?— the free world needs a new leader. does it? no. you know, the situation _ leader. does it? no. you know, the situation is _ leader. does it? no. you know, the situation is very _ leader. does it? no. you know, the situation is very simple. - the situation is very simple. the us is over 50% of nato. in my discussions with the americans, they are extremely invested in nato including in article five and the us being the biggest country, therefore it is the leader within the nato alliance but with all the other leaders of all the other allies. the us is so big, it is so important and has so much
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political, let's say, power, in terms of the defence capabilities, and the projections, collectively, we can make in the world stage, nato acting together, basically, twice the size of the us economy, is also in the interest of europe but also the us for so we will all stay together and work together and tear in europe will have to spend more on ramp up the production. spend more on ramp up the production-— spend more on ramp up the roduction. . ~' , ., , . production. thank you very much for coming _ production. thank you very much for coming on — production. thank you very much for coming on the _ production. thank you very much for coming on the programme. . for coming on the programme. thank you. president zelensky is meeting sir keir starmer ahead of tomorrow's summit in london which brings together european leaders, as well as the head of nato. injusta injust a few in just a few hours, effectively, zelensky will be arriving at downing street for one—on—one conversations with keir starmer. our political correspondent is at downing street for us. extraordinary diplomacy ongoing. find
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street for us. extraordinary diplomacy ongoing. and also a real change — diplomacy ongoing. and also a real change of— diplomacy ongoing. and also a real change of plan. _ diplomacy ongoing. and also a real change of plan. we - diplomacy ongoing. and also a real change of plan. we had i real change of plan. we had expected to see zelensky tomorrow, among eu leaders at that summit. tomorrow, among eu leaders at tho your nmit. tomorrow, among eu leaders at tho your starmer and even more by your starmer and even more two take place here in the next two or three hours. zelensky landed at stansted airportjust after iiam at stansted airportjust after ”am this morning. and at stansted airportjust after ”am this morning. ar moment in can presidents lenski and trump can be rebuilt, can restored, be rebuilt, can be restored, whether there is a deal the us to be struck and if not, what european can do. what european nations can do. a certain amount of anxiety and what european nations can do. a certain amount of anxiety al this building behind me because this was not part of the much of this week was carefully choreographed on that much of this week was carefully cho visit �*aphed on that much of this week was carefully cho visit to hed on that much of this week was carefully cho visit to the on that much of this week was carefully cho visit to the white t
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did not have was the did thatave was the did that was vas the did that was not the sovereignty. that was not something he managed sovereignty. that was not somethir happened ged sovereignty. that was not somethir happened in d sovereignty. that was not somethir happened in the oval and what happened in the oval office yesterday as and what happened in the oval office yeste| why |s and what happened in the oval office yeste| why president hint towards why president trump did not weekend were supposed to be carefully choreographed but it that the prime it means that the uk prime minister is also playing a it means that the uk prime minister is alst before, a he had spoken before, his allies had spoken before about he had spoken before, his allies had sp us n before about he had spoken before, his allies had sp us and fore about he had spoken before, his allies had sp us and the about between the us and the eu, maybe now they will have to act between the us and the eu, maybe now they wi the /e to act and donald trump. the uk suddenly attempting to play and donald trump. the uk suddenly attemptir tensions key role in calming tensions and pragmatically seems to next steps. into what seems to a pretty major
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crisis. those comments in your strategy here going into this? some kind of bargaining position opening up? it is position opening up? it is cuite position opening up? it is quite possible. _ position opening up? it is quite possible. it - position opening up? it 3 quite possible. it would be compatible with trump's usual strategy. you destroy in order to rebuild and to warn your opponent that he has to make more concessions. so that it is a possibility but i am not saying that was what happened foot up some of these things happen just because trump has an explosive personality and still lenski was under intense pressure. but i think there is one point wanted to make and it is a really important point. yes, zelensky has got a huge amount to lose if he doesn't
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rebuild his relationship with does president trump. and so does president trump. and so does president trump. because president trump's whole basis of his current position is that he will create a dialogue with putin that will end this war. that is what he has pledged to do. we cannotjust reach an agreement with putin. that agreement, if it is to lead to agreement, if it is to lead to a ceasefire, has to have zelensky�*s and sent as well. if the lenski refuses to accept it and continues fighting they will lose their ceasefire and trample have totally failed so although he will never admit it, trump also needs, as does the lenski, to try to put last night behind him and get back to what they should have been doing, signing the agreement on the mineral wealth but also having a grown—up
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the mineral wealth but also having a grown what he said i think some of what he said start but specifically that donald trump had played in that conflict. what do you think is going on there? well, i think some of what he said... i watch the interview and some see this war and and we probably would not have that chance at this moment in time if trump had not begun this major initiative but it has to be combined with an equal acknowledgement that presidency lenski and the whole ukrainian people also want that war to end and it has to end
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