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being gratefulfor the support of the us. president zelensky making it clear that russia could not be trusted, and that any peace deal must be backed by security guaranties. the huge public row has completely up—ended days of painstaking choreographed diplomacy, which was meant to have led to the signing, with america, of a deal over our diplomatic correspondent, james landale reports.

president zelensky arriving in the uk this morning

as the war continues, russian drones striking a hospital overnight in kharkiv, ukraine and europe now face a tough question, how long could they resist russian forces if donald trump pulled the plug on us military aid? james landale, bbc news. i spoke to the nato secretary general mark rutte a little earlier and asked him for his reaction to what unfolded between trump and zelensky yesterday. i think it was very unfortunate and i have been twice on the phone now with president zelensky and i told him this. we need to stick together. the united states, ukraine, europe, to bring ukraine to a durable peace. so we clearly discussed this. is peace. 50 we clearly discussed this. , ., peace. 50 we clearly discussed this. , . ., , this. is that it was unfortunate. - this. is that it was| unfortunate. what this. is that it was - unfortunate. what did this. is that it was _ unfortunate. what did zelensky say about it?—

say about it? welcome of course. — say about it? welcome of course. i _ say about it? welcome of course, i am _ say about it? welcome of course, i am not - say about it? welcome of course, i am not at - say about it? welcome of| course, i am not at liberty say about it? welcome of. course, i am not at liberty to disclose what we discussed but what i clearly told him is that we really have to respect what president trump has done so far for ukraine. he was the one, 2019, who provided the javelin is. these are lethal weapons. and without the javelins, in 2022, when the full scale attack started, ukraine would have been nowhere. 0f attack started, ukraine would have been nowhere. of course there was the training, particularly done by the uk and others, but it was primarily the javelins which flipped the table for ukrainians to fight back. and without that he would not have stood a chance so i told him, we really have to give trump credit for what he did then, what america did since then and also what america is still doing. i want to ut america is still doing. i want to put to _ america is still doing. i want to put to use _ america is still doing. i want to put to use of— america is still doing. i want to put to use of the - america is still doing. i want to put to use of the words i america is still doing. i want i to put to use of the words from donald trump that directly impact you can make yourjob and your ability to do your job. when president zelensky was talking about defending his

country and donald trump says, he is gambling with world war iii. is donald trump right? listen. i have spoken for half an hour on thursday with donald trump on the phone. we are friends. we have worked for years together. i know he is committed to bring ukraine to a durable peace. he is committed to nato. 0f durable peace. he is committed to nato. of course, he expects the european nato partners in canada to spend more and to mmp canada to spend more and to ramp up defence production and he is right there. so he is exactly on the spot when it comes to ukraine, nato, and we really need to work together on all of this. really need to work together on all of thia— all of this. but is he right when he _ all of this. but is he right when he tells _ all of this. but is he right when he tells that - all of this. but is he right when he tells that then l all of this. but is he right i when he tells that then ski that zelensky is gambling with world war iii? that zelensky is gambling with world war m?— world war iii? listen, let me lease world war iii? listen, let me please not — world war iii? listen, let me please not react _ world war iii? listen, let me please not react to _ world war iii? listen, let me please not react to every - please not react to every sentence yesterday uttered in the oval office. but more generally, of course, it is important for ukraine to get to a durable peace as president trump said in the past. and also committed to yesterday. it

should be a sort of rerun of what we saw with the minsk course in 2014. it should be in minsk 3—foot a place to be a durable, lasting peace and that is crucial to prevent war in the future so there i am with president trump. but it is important that ukraine prevails here. that the outcome is enduring and will not be challenged by the russians again. challenged by the russians aaain. ., challenged by the russians arain_ ., ., again. you said where you are with donald _ again. you said where you are with donald trump. _ again. you said where you are with donald trump. are - again. you said where you are with donald trump. are you i again. you said where you are i with donald trump. are you with donald trump and he says to zelensky, are you making a deal or are we out? are you making a deal there? or are we out? are you making a dealthere? i or are we out? are you making a deal there?— deal there? i want to focus on the bigger— deal there? i want to focus on the bigger picture. _ deal there? i want to focus on the bigger picture. this - deal there? i want to focus on the bigger picture. this is - deal there? i want to focus on the bigger picture. this is the | the bigger picture. this is the bi aer the bigger picture. this is the bigger picture- _ the bigger picture. this is the bigger picture. what - the bigger picture. this is the bigger picture. what i - the bigger picture. this is the bigger picture. what i said i the bigger picture. this is the bigger picture. what i said is| bigger picture. what i said is that i bigger picture. what i said is that l think _ bigger picture. what i said is that i think you _ bigger picture. what i said is that i think you have - bigger picture. what i said is that i think you have to - bigger picture. what i said is that i think you have to find l bigger picture. what i said is| that i think you have to find a way to restore your relationship with donald trump and the american administration. that is important going forward. the us, i know, is very much involved in this. it was donald

trump who made the opening to the russians, who basically broke the deadlock when it came to peace negotiations. so they have now started. europeans now, and a keir starmer�*s leadership, europeans coming together to really hammer out what europeans can do to support a future peace deal which is not yet there are so step—by—step. but it is important that you start planning for this. and akio starmer�*s visit on thursday i think was very successful because, clearly, there was an understanding that we have to work on this together. can you see a future — work on this together. can you see a future where _ work on this together. can you see a future where the - work on this together. can you see a future where the us - work on this together. can you | see a future where the us does stop its military support for ukraine? i stop its military support for ukraine? ., stop its military support for ukraine? . ., , , ukraine? i am absolutely convinced _ ukraine? i am absolutely convinced that _ ukraine? i am absolutely convinced that the - ukraine? i am absolutely convinced that the us i ukraine? i am absolutely i convinced that the us wants ukraine? i am absolutely - convinced that the us wants to bring ukraine to this durable peace. it was what all the administrations senior people are told in the past. my discussions with president trump but obviously, what they need to get there is to make

sure that we all work together on this and it is important that president zelensky finds a way to restore his relationship with the american president and with the american president and with the american president and with the senior american leadership team. i discussed this yesterday with zelensky and also with keir starmer and now they will meet later today. and tomorrow it will be an important meeting in your beautiful capital. we important meeting in your beautiful capital.— important meeting in your beautiful capital. we will get onto that summit _ beautiful capital. we will get onto that summit in - beautiful capital. we will get onto that summit in just - beautiful capital. we will get onto that summit in just a i onto that summit in just a moment butjust on the idea of the us withdrawing its military support for ukraine, are nato countries in a position to fill in that gap?— countries in a position to fill in that gap? you know, let's move beyond _ in that gap? you know, let's move beyond this _ in that gap? you know, let's move beyond this question i move beyond this question because it is crucial that we stay all in this together. us, ukraine, europe, that we bring ukraine, europe, that we bring ukraine to a piece. this is exactly what president trump is fighting for. what we all are fighting for. what we all are fighting for. what we all are fighting for. we have to make sure that, when a deal struck, that the deal is lasting. but ou that the deal is lasting. but you can't — that the deal is lasting. but you can'tjust _ that the deal is lasting. but you can'tjust move... - that the deal is lasting. but you can'tjust move... i'm sorry to interrupt but you can't just

sorry to interrupt but you can'tjust move beyond it. it was donald trump himself is that either there is a deal or the us is out. you cannot move beyond that. the us is out. you cannot move beyond that-— beyond that. again, i am not auoin to beyond that. again, i am not going to comment _ beyond that. again, i am not going to comment on - beyond that. again, i am not going to comment on every l going to comment on every sentence which was uttered yesterday in the oval office. as i said, it was an unfortunate meeting and i think zelensky should fight today to restore his relationship with president trump and that is important going forward but i know, is a fact, that the american administration is extremely invested in making sure that ukraine gets to this durable peace. and we have to work on this together and europeans will have to play a role here. europeans will have to play a role here-— role here. on to the summit that you _ role here. on to the summit that you mentioned - role here. on to the summit that you mentioned earlier, | role here. on to the summit i that you mentioned earlier, in london, clearly topics of conversation, agendas, running orders will have been ripped up and started again now given what happened in the us. what would be a concrete success story from the summit, for you? what i expect coming out of tomorrow as many countries tomorrow as many countries tomorrow saying that, if a peace deal is struck, and

again, it is not yet there. when i discussed it with president trump and others in the american administration they rightly said we first have to get to a peace deal before we can keep the peace, which is absolutely clear but when the piece to the struck, do important, that many european countries are willing to help to make sure that the security guarantees are in place in ukraine, to make sure that the peace deal is lasting and will not be challenged by the russians again. like what happened in 2014 after crimea and the minsk accords which were immediately challenged because there were no security guarantees in place.— guarantees in place. lastly, eu foreian guarantees in place. lastly, eu foreign policy _ guarantees in place. lastly, eu foreign policy chief _ guarantees in place. lastly, eu foreign policy chief saying - guarantees in place. lastly, eu foreign policy chief saying the i foreign policy chief saying the free world needs a new leader. does it? ., ., ~ ., does it? no. you know, the situation — does it? no. you know, the situation is _ does it? no. you know, the situation is very _ does it? no. you know, the situation is very simple. - does it? no. you know, the| situation is very simple. the us is over 50% of nato. in my discussions with the americans, they are extremely invested in

nato, including in article five and the us being the biggest country, therefore, it is the leader within the nato alliance but of course, with all the other leaders of all the other 31 allies. but the us are so big, so important, so much political let's say power in terms of the defence capabilities and the projections, collectively, that we can make in the world stage. nato acting together, basically, twice the size of the us economy, also an interest of europe and the us. we'll all stay together and work together and here in europe we have two ramp up production. europe we have two ramp up production. let's speak to our political correspondentjoe pike who's at downing street for us. a big weekend of diplomacy. it certainly is. and it is happened much quicker than anyone expected. we thought we would see president zelensky here tomorrow ahead of that leaders summit that keir

starmer is hosting. instead, he is expected here in the next hour or two. is expected here in the next hour ortwo. downing is expected here in the next hour or two. downing street officials arriving behind me. the street is absolutely full of international media, which gives a sense of the world wide attention on this moment and also the role that keir starmer, the uk prime minister, seemingly going to have to play here. partly because of the hostility that donald trump feels towards the eu. he wants to act as a bridge and the eu and he might have to act as a bridge between president zelensky and donald trump as well. it will also be fascinating to hear the language that keir starmer will use after this meeting, perhaps it will echo that of your interview on bbc news today. a mild rebuke, almost, of president zelensky but also saying that donald trump and the us should be credited. clearly he is giving advice to just one of the two leaders

involved in that spot in the oval office yesterday and it is not donald trump. interesting. let's not donald trump. interesting. let's look _