tv Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg BBC News March 2, 2025 9:00am-10:08am GMT
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good morning. the prime minister is with us live as we discuss war and peace. kemi badenoch, the leader of the opposition�*s here, to say we must spend even more to keep us safe. lib dem leader ed davey wants zelensky to be honoured in parliament. and we'll hear the voice of ukraine as the war goes on. and our team at the desk, journalist and trump—whisperer piers morgan. legendary broadcaster christiane amanpour. and trump—backer greg swenson, chair of republicans overseas.
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jzfiii—jf to president 7—,: f ' ' f f jef—ii—jf to president trum- 127" f ' ' f f g to president trum- and ,, ww ' ' w i phone, talk to president trump and president zelensky, then invite president zelensky, then invite president zelensky, then invite president zelensky for an extensive meeting yesterday with a warm welcome. then further pick up the phone to president macron and president trump afterwards. because my view is you have to bridge this and find a way to work together because in the end we have had three years of bloody conflict now and we need to get to a lasting peace. i have to say i have spoken to president trump a number of times, i have met him twice. we had a long session on thursday. i am clear in my mind that he does want to lasting peace and an end to the fighting in ukraine. i am absolutely clear that's what his motive is. i agree with that, president zelensky agrees with that, president zelensky agrees with that, president zelensky agrees with that and i think everybody does apart from putin. in the end that remains the central and most important thing, which is why we
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took a step forward in my view last night when we agreed we would work on a plan for stopping the fighting and then, as it were, discuss the plan with the united states. it was an important step forward. we will come to the _ an important step forward. we will come to the details _ an important step forward. we will come to the details in _ an important step forward. we will come to the details in a _ an important step forward. we will come to the details in a second, i an important step forward. we will. come to the details in a second, but when it comes to the two versions of donald trump we i think that's why people, many people were so flummoxed by what they saw. the version in the oval office with you gave the impression, as you say, that he wants a lasting peace and he is sympathetic to protect ukraine in the long term. then the next day we saw a completely different version who appeared to just want it over, and did not seem to be particularly interested and said he was in the middle of ukraine and russia, didn't want to give ukraine an advantage. which president trump should viewers believe, the one with you on thursday or the one we saw on friday? i thursday or the one we saw on frida ? . , .,
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friday? i have it in my mind that he wants lasting _ friday? i have it in my mind that he wants lasting peace. _ friday? i have it in my mind that he wants lasting peace. that _ friday? i have it in my mind that he wants lasting peace. that comes i friday? i have it in my mind that he i wants lasting peace. that comes from my discussions with him, on thursday we had extensive discussions. and i my discussions with him, on thursday we had extensive discussions. in 1d i my discussions with him, on thursday we had extensive discussions. in new met him before in september in new york and i have spoken to him a met him before in september in new york and i times poken to him a met him before in september in new york and i times onzen to him a met him before in september in new york and i times on the to him a met him before in september in new york and i times on the phone a number of times on the phone including friday and saturday night. number of times on the phone including friday he d saturday night. number of times on the phone including friday he wants rday night. number of times on the phone including friday he wants a ay night. number of times on the phone including friday he wants a lasting t. my view is that he wants a lasting peace and i agree with him on that. president zelensky agrees with him about that. i president zelensky agrees with him about that. to go on, least of all this conflict to go on, least of all the ukrainians. it is be national interest and we have to be obsolete focused on that as we go forward. i am clear view that forward. i am clear in my view that president trump wants lasting peace and i agree with him. —— we have be absolutely focused. what you believe to be _ be absolutely focused. what you believe to be in _ be absolutely focused. what you believe to be in president - be absolutely focused. what you i believe to be in president trump's beggve to be in. president trumg's do gelleve te be in. president treme'e do you ceasefire or peace deal, what do you understand it to mean? fit, ceasefire or peace deal, what do you understand it to mean?— ceasefire or peace deal, what do you unders-to mean?— ceasefire or peace deal, what do you unders-an?_ ceasefire or peace deal, what do you unders ., .,, 7�* ceasefire or peace deal, what do you unders~ ., .,, ?�* ., peace? what does it mean to president _ peace? what does it mean to president trump? _ peace? what does it mean to president trump? a - peace? what does it mean to president trump? a line, - peace? what does it mean to i president trump? a line, terms
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fit written must go up but you have written todayit must go up but you have written today it should hit a 3% of national income by the end of the decade. that would be a huge increase, even though the percentages sound quite small, it would be a significant be "'ef'ew:e , , , increase. where would you be willing to cut from public services that people already enjoy, things people rely on, or potentially raise taxes in order to get the extra money. i suspect you will not raise taxes. this is a fundamental question. when i was in cabinet we talked about getting to 3% by 2030 and we m a couldn't make the numbers work. we need to find a way to make the numbers work because the world is changing very quickly. with things in wwwfffww like defence you can't make m can't with “we: ww last—minute decisions. it takes years, well beyond our parliament,
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to get the equipment produced. people will not start making the equipment unless we know we will spend the money. we are not ordering dresses but tanks, missiles, new 1m technology that isn't on the books yet. it requires fundamental economic growth. the problem we have now, what labour is doing is reducing growth are not increasing it. ~ ., , ., ., y it. where would you get the money from? i am — it. where would you get the money from? i am speaking _ it. where would you get the money from? i am speaking now- it. where would you get the money from? i am speaking now about. it. where would you get the money l from? i am speaking now about what the economy — from? i am speaking now about what the economy needs. _ from? i am speaking now about what the economy needs. i _ from? i am speaking now about what the economy needs. i am _ from? i am speaking now about what the economy needs. i am not - from? i am speaking now about what the economy needs. i am not in - from? i am speaking now about what the economy needs. i am not in the i the economy needs. i am not in the government but we will help them to get there. i am not going to make spending plans when we don't have access to the books any more. we have talked about making savings and of element i am pleased that prime minister now agrees with me.
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