live from london. this is bbc news. sir keir starmer tells the bbc he will work with france on a ukraine peace deal and present it to the us. the united kingdom, along with france and possibly one or two others will work with ukraine on a plan and then we will discuss that plan with the united states. to stop the fighting. in the last hour, prime minister giorgia meloni visits downing street to meet sir keir starmer before this afternoon's leaders�* summit. in the coming hours president zelensky will also meet king charles.

hello, i'm annita mcveigh. we are continuing our coverage here on this significant day at downing street ahead of the european leaders summit. just a reminder of the giorgia meloni the italian prime minister since i downing street where she has been talking to the uk prime minister sir keir starmer. we think, we are keeping an eye on the famous door behind us. we know that giorgia meloni had a phone call with president trump yesterday. said today that it is really important to avoid the risk of a split in the west. that, of course, is what the leaders here will be really focused on. this was planned before the meeting with volodymyr zelensky in the white house on friday. i think everyone has pretty much seen or heard about this. a

really extraordinary meeting the us, between relations with the us, between president zelensky and president zelensky and president trump stop there is not much focus on the not so much focus on the personalities, on the personalities, but on the broader issues at stake. keir starmer the bbc earlier starmer spoke thesbbcearlier he did starmer spoketbebbcearlier he did not want to add today. he did not want to add today. he did not want to add to the outrage, his focus was get on with the plan. three to get on with the plan. three points, a really ukraine points, a really strong ukraine that continued the fight if are just that cantiha�*ed the fight if are just keeping necessary. we are just keeping an eye on giorgia meloni's necessary. we are just keeping an eye on we rgia meloni's necessary. we are just keeping an eye on we should loni's necessary. we are just keeping an eye on we should happen departure we shauid haaaefl. ,, she may departure we eheuid haaaefl. ,, she may make imminently. she may make comment as she leaves. of

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focus, which is lasting peace in ukraine. of what the proposals might be that you are trying to get agreed. at the centre of this, president zelensky and president trump. president trump said it's difficult to do business like this. in that moment, very much sympathy for ukraine. a long time would have a pretty good guess that you would have did you? yes, i felt uncomfortable. nobody wants to see that.

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