answers that might anticipate. mightanticipate. keir 7 and very much the j the piesident of in irihis ' iri his after ukraine in his comments after that yesterday, and todayi j j todayi 5 he againteday; saying he twists zelensky ended againteday; saying he treats zelensky ended that also president trump, a so president trump, a so there president trump, a so there will sident trump, a so there will he ant trump, a so there will he lots rump, too. so there will be lots of questions for lots of . uestions a,” whiny/vs”? w, , 777 how7t7h7e 7 how7the 7 7 can agout how theadifficulties can bridged between ukraine and be bridged between ukraine and united what role the united states, what role can the rest of europe play in a coming to a deal that can provide a just and lasting hearing from european keep hearing from european a just and legageirs, a just andiasiing i lesadesrs a just andiasiing i think it igeéedéili a just andiasiing i think it is safe igeéedtili a just andiasiing i think it is safe to peace. i think it is safe to say that they pretty much all 7 that 7 7 7 that7 be that be much 7 that 7 be much more agree that would be muehrnare if they agree that would be muehrnore if they could get likely if they could get that from the united states.

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for guiding us through the a of— a 7 of 7hours 7 7 of7hours and7 7 of 7hours and7those couple of hours and those crucial arrivals, of couple of hours and those crucialarrivals, of those crucial arrivals, of all those european leaders. just the sursasafi lsaasts last ifi; thé few sursasafi lsaasts toss ifi; thé few minutes there, lastfew minutes there; the most crucial president zelensky 7president zelensky of leaderf president zelensky of and ukraine. and heading inside as the summit is under way. just outside that there... who's outside the summit at lancaster house. talk us through the arrival in the last few minutes of zelensky. zelens . a he777 7 hé77 had same; he arrived; he had— ,, something same; he arrived; he had— ~ something to say to ; starmer, quite often when keir starmer, quite often when you have these there you have these arrivals there is just a handshake and a few z= 7 about the pleasantries about the weather or something that. pleasantries about the weather orsomething that. but or something like that. but he had he clearly, he had something he to discuss with the minister before the talks prime minister before the talks so, had an actual began. so, they had an actual short conversation. all the media asking the media inevitably asking the usual questions, what he usual questions, what is he prepared to do? to revive and and repair

restore and repair relationships the re'etfifi-br- mt ;';ie : ww’i’f” after 77 7 after that states after that terrible conflagration in the oval office on friday night. earlier this morning i interviewed the office on friday night. earlier this morn of i interviewed the office on friday night. earlier this morn of finland iewed the office on friday night. earlier this morn of finland whod the office on friday night. earlier this morn of finland who is he ilii, in there today. i said; also in there today. i said, did mr zelensky have to is"? h*es�*s“s'§s“sss*s sst humble and he said i 77 77eng7lis7h77 7 77 7 english but i am not like english piesgbut i am not to make any 77 7777 7 to about 77 77 77 7 eat to about 77 77 77 7 eat what. about 77 77 77 777eat7what. think about will however be some today about noisy discussion today about how to get relations between ukraine and back on track. that and america back on track. that will involve some give clearly will involve some give and take, there were attempts to try to get the ukrainians back into the white house on friday they did the prime minister succeed. the prime minister knows that happens knows that whatever happens here today, something is going have -ii! haye be done to try and = -: that ukrainians 7 that ukrainians talki7ng that ukrainians talking to get that ukrainians talking to the americans again. you the americans again. if you talk diplomats, they say talk to diplomats, they say the talk to diplomats. they say the americans talk to diplomats, they say the americans potentially that the americans potentially might be up for form of might bean—fer same fer-"n at but we might bean—fer same farm at but we not might bean—fer same farm at �* that but we not might bean—fer same farm at �*that yet. but we not might besetessemeiesmeé

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