Skip to main content

tv   [untitled]  BELARUSTV  May 24, 2022 5:05pm-6:01pm MSK

5:05 pm
hello on the air, the program shots of life and today the guest of our studio is a person whom i have known for more than 40 years, but as it turned out, knowing very little about him, so i invited a wonderful theater director and teacher with great experience vitaly vladimirovich to our studio katowice. copper pipes, it turns out, are the most difficult. what can be the most difficult test for a creative person, even if they are pioneer i liked not to perform, but to study, learn, discover and embody. they dance dance then they just stop and tell the director. well, here vasily comes out and he does yes. yes, of course, yes. and no matter how rehearsal they are, well, then vasily he says. yes
5:06 pm
, yes, yes, yes, the concert, i specially came to see it. here the guys put the guys dancing and suddenly vasily, short in stature in trousers, comes out and such two-meter standing ovations in the hall and leaves, i ran and ran. began running, psychophysics, gaining gaining gaining. run in everyone smashed the operator's ear pierced again we should not enter each other's field if we enter on each other's field, which means porridge. vitaly katovitsky was born in 1956 in the irkutsk region. in a simple working-class family in 1964.
5:07 pm
the family moves to their mother's homeland in molodechno where vitaly finishes school in 1979. he enters the acting department of the belarusian state theater and art institute for the course of the wonderful director and teacher boris ivanovich lutsenko . again enters the theater and art institute at the department of drama directors in the workshop of an outstanding theater director. valery nikolaevich raevsky, after graduating from the institute, comes to work at the belarusian state youth theater and for 14 years becomes its chief director over the years in the youth theater of other theaters. in russia abroad, he staged two dozen performances, which repeatedly became laureates of various national
5:08 pm
and international theater festivals in parallel with the director's work. vitaly katowice has been actively filming over 50 film roles since 2003. he is a teacher of directing, acting plasticity and stage movement of the belarusian state academy of arts, associate professor, head of the department of directing. knowing you for 40 years well, when i was preparing for this program, i realized that i know you, you and you very little, so today i will have many questions in a lot of fragments. another fate in the institute. i remember when i first met you. i already knew that you do karate, then it was a very strange thing. and how long did you practice and why did you have this desire to do karate, then there was a theatrical art institute. i
5:09 pm
climb the stairs, and so into the tanzal opposite there is a hall, i looked at some guy doing karate. it was nikolai skvortsov , an artist. it turns out that he had been doing karate for a long time and began to study in the army. i say let me work with you. he says, what will you give me in return? what can you do? i say, well, i did yoga. he says, okay then. so you teach me yoga, and i teach you karate, then it was very popular. let's just say it's very exotic. fashionably fashionable, yes, and all students of the theater institute and from abroad began to flock to us, and i will say that at the theater institute then the sports hall was one of the best karate halls in minsk. and many m-m
5:10 pm
karate seminars of that time were held in the hall. theatrical institute, i have already, to be honest, reached a certain level. and i could have already entered competitions, but karate was closed and i had only to practice already for myself, but i'm grateful all my life that i met in karate. and what did he openly give a lot, first of all, willpower? and willpower in our profession is one of the most important factors. of course, i still do it too. i did not quit karate, when i got into it, it is already impossible to quit it. because when you stop exercising, you feel that something is missing, such a depressive state sets in. karate. i was given a lot in connection with the concept of the
5:11 pm
human body of its expressiveness. yes , the plastics of his expressiveness of those energies, that move in the human body. and this is very important, because the expressiveness of the body does not depend on the muscles or strength, but on the energies of the impulses that move in the body. so they carry expressiveness. so you said that you have already practiced yoga, where does yoga come from? suddenly taken at that time? it was also very exotic. to be honest , i don't know. it's from somewhere inside of me. and i saw a textbook on hatha yoga. and i wanted to own it. because i
5:12 pm
saw that there was something. which is located behind outside of our daily life. and i wanted to feel. what is there what is the philosophy and what are the people involved in yoga? they find out what kind of transition this is from one state to another; now i have such a complex that is connected. with many methods. this is from, for example, tai chi, and from yoga mechanisms, it was very important for me as a director, as an actor, to try all this. they say that we all come from childhood you remember the happiest moment of your life as a child. here is my childhood, it was not illuminated by
5:13 pm
some very joyful moments, but the most joyful is my youth, when i entered the theater institute. this is the greatest joy of my entire life. i was born very far away. i was born in taiga. in the deep boundless boundless taiga, how am i from there? i got out and now i'm sitting with you asking me questions for me there is no answer. this is some kind of desire from somewhere outside. lead me through. here on this white sofa and talk to you. well, after all , there was something before that, there was some kind of trigger that said, vitalik, you must try yourself in the acting profession, because it's interesting. it can become your life, or it was all spontaneously unexpected
5:14 pm
even for you subconsciously. it seems to me that i somehow aspired to creativity. well, firstly, i drew very well, i drew posters of groups for all your friends, there were no posters then, but you could draw a big poster. and i drew and they hung out some kind of matinees on the walls of their house. i performed something, read some miniatures of raikin. i liked it. i studied in an english circle language. and he also performed in a play called uncle tom's cabin and some white bad man. i lied there. and when i then how you played great. i lived in molodechno i'm sitting in the park a beautiful time of rock and roll hippies. well, i have long hair, such flared trousers. and a wonderful girl is walking, a very beautiful girl of the light of the betrothed in her hands is a book. i
5:15 pm
say hello sveta where are you going? she says, she's going home, i say, what kind of book? she speaks poetry. i say, why do you need poetry, i will enter the theater institute. i say yes. listen to sveta take me to enter the theater institute with you. she says, well, please, let's go. let's have consultations there on saturday, just lidia alekseevna vanakova conducted a consultation. i hid my hair there under the collar behind my ears, combed it there, hid it, i think, well, how it is, well, a soviet institution, you can’t have hair right there. but i went out to read, what do you remember about studying at the institute with an amazing creative atmosphere, we all wanted to create, we all believed in art. we all wanted to change world for the better. i still remain the same idealist. all the time i want to be where
5:16 pm
these and my idealistic aspirations can be realized. i want us to watch a fragment of one very popular film in its time. i suddenly saw you in it. although, in the credits you are not listed anywhere. i'm a big and fat guy , a noteworthy dunce, and someone meanly squanders foolishness, until the bastard falls, and my girlfriend is messing around with a party roman tik come on.
5:17 pm
oh, let's go. stumbled upon this story by accident. i was filming. valery uh rybreva in the film is a witness. he and i talked a lot about karate and hare krishnas and yoga and chinese indian philosophy and so on. he is a versatile person, an absolutely talented director. and suddenly he
5:18 pm
calls me says vitaly come to the trinity subject. i invited the most interesting people from all over. union may be very interesting to you. the hare krishna movement will be directly connected there. with the hippie movement, it was all then the train of the spiritual beginning was very important, and i was also interested. well, here we are together and sang this maha the hare krishna mantra at that time i only knew half of this mantra. maha mantra is a big mantra i knew half of this mantra. and how did i know, because the melody company released a record. the legend of krishna and only half of this mantra was sung there. so they introduced me to the whole mantra. i touched this religious movement. well, they
5:19 pm
remained as a keepsake in this film, which at one time was the leader of the soviet film distribution. i voiced many more in this film, many, by the way, in the film harlequin and the scene when the boy with the book is being cut. you remember, yes, this episode is writing, it is unlikely that you are interested. and you can see you didn’t have such cases with your long hair. the same thugs haunted the lives of normal guys. of course, there was such a summer stage in molodechno. maybe now it is not, but then it was yes, standing next to you is disgusting. i was sitting there, i was also my friend or two girls. we had such an uh, a battery-powered player and a record of carlas santana was playing, and suddenly the
5:20 pm
guys come in, they were engaged in wrestling, and the hairies. are you sitting here, yes, i hate hairies, well, let's go from here. 3 months somewhere this man, his name was peter, this guy who chased me away meets me, his hair is already covering his ears like that, listen vitalik and where can i get the rolling stones to listen, but i also saw evolution. these guys, all of a sudden in the city, regional strife stopped. it was easy to move from one area to another. as he said, lao tzu dal develops in waves, it is a rise and fall. that was an uplift, a spiritual uplift. he was in everything in interpersonal relations, in the theater. these are barb's individual experiments, various theatrical communes, and
5:21 pm
so on. it was in painting in music everywhere today such an undulating surge is possible in our society, which suddenly became so polarized, unfortunately, evil is more stable. it is easier for us to offend than to ask the world for forgiveness. can only art or religion save? come back when you grow up with us. hung up your ropes, let's go teeth let's go in, huh? don't listen, let him live. well as you want. i hope so anyway. again this rise will come and it will come without cataclysms and the warrior and the warrior this is the most
5:22 pm
important thing the human mind says that it is impossible to do this. and he resists reason, because he wants it so. material nature and this is the struggle between the mind of conscience and material nature. now here the material nature wins, but then. we all lived by the same art. it was not painful for us. for example, uh, it was supposed that i should go to the gorky theater after graduating from acting departments. well, the situation inside was such that i was assigned to mogilev. do you think i had any regrets? no, we are four people from
5:23 pm
the course, we went to mogilev to work in the theater, and the most surprising thing is that when we arrived in mogilev, we were met by the same creative people, passionate about creativity, passionate about theater, and the atmosphere of creativity reigned in the theater. his first directorial performance. i staged in mogilev as an actor. i went up to the chief director and said. excuse me, can i put on a play, please? is this such and such? do you know what he said to me? you will not believe. can he tell me more? i say, can we rehearse at night on stage. it is possible and we released this performance at night, working. now, of course, no one would let anyone in the theater, no night, no amateur performances. i want us to look at the footage that
5:24 pm
you probably haven’t seen for 40 years. simon and hanna are happy and on the city in order to beguile, consecrate with your kohan in this world and back everything until you catch the memory of the people in ecstasy. i'm asking you to the premiere of the play. simon music an occasion for a poem and kolas' cubes come to life, familiar images of folklore waved, waved good and evil light and theme
5:25 pm
this is fantasy at all, haven't you seen it? i did n't see it. thank you very much for showing me this. this is the first great work of the ensemble on the professional stage staged by the director. vladimir kolesov about criminal roles was thrown out by vitaly katovitsky and alla kollisova. the artists dedicated their new work to the centenary of the birth of yakub kolas, how did you get to the pantomime theater, i was looking for various groups in minsk that were doing punts. so i worked at the palace of trade unions, worked at the tractor factory, and so on pantomime and suddenly i heard that the theater of pantomime of hands was opening. and
5:26 pm
they hire actors. and since i, well, have always been interested in the body of plastic and so on . i came there and they tell me, well , please, stand, for a warm-up along with everyone, but they didn’t know that i was a shorty . education. yes, says so credited, and i started to work. here in the theater is a pantomime. live belarusian and songwriter yanka kupala a new staging of the pantomime ensemble rukh was enlightened
5:27 pm
. i think that i did not let him down then this team enjoyed incredible popularity. we had a book that after the performance. you could write reviews, the hall was always full, there were a lot of reviews. yes girls. how many good ones have been written to me. here i want show next frames. i think you will recognize this city and recognize this place. this is budapest, on the territory of the capital, people lived already 2,000 years ago, then celtic tribes lived here, and in the first century they were replaced by belts. the acquisition of the motherland by the hungarians took place in 1896. this land experienced four hundred years of domination by the turks and the invasion of the tatar-mongols. the era of the austro-hungarian empire is the party remember this city it was a big youth friendship festival. and this was the first trip
5:28 pm
abroad with a group of rukh hands. yes, and we were together with the actors and polunin and the folk song ensemble. pokrovsky was a big gala concert, then the first time. i also went to a live rock concert. locomotive such a hungarian was the most famous group. vitaly tell me why, after all, after the acting department of our academy, you decided to continue your studies for directing, who again pushed you to this? what circumstances i wanted to embody everything not only the role. and then all of a sudden i felt that
5:29 pm
i see how it can be done. this is a very important moment, you always sacrifice something, for the sake of something, for example, i had to sacrifice cinema. i am a director . i had to donate a movie. here is the last step after the movie. i'm very good. went to the cinema at this time. i am confirmed in st. petersburg for a film and for a six-part film in the creative association of the screen and i refuse. i then decided that no, i would be a director, and i refused these films. and a few more trials. and when you refuse you stop offering absolutely right?
5:30 pm
the officer on duty released comrade lieutenant. well, do you have a leave of absence? i hardly recognized you so plump. let's see one more fragment from your military biography in cinema. how much lieutenant? depending on where timokhin is, these alone are enough
5:31 pm
. let me turn. comrade ensign , is it possible to neutralize an explosive device there in a warehouse? just be careful. and how is comrade ensign? listen, what happened to you? did something happen at home? no way? no. so what's the matter? i just really want to go home. everyone
5:32 pm
wants to go home. i think that every young the actor dreams of the main role, but you are lucky in this regard. love was on the playground of the heroine. well, of course, without this it is impossible. how do you feel about yourself on screen? so, when you look now, when you used to look, you are skeptical stepan jokes, don't joke, well, what kind of jokes are here? no, but katya could not do something bad. and who tells you that you did something bad? how should she
5:33 pm
have done it right? if offended. i timokha hurt her very soul. such a chump you chump uncouth chock i only now understand timokha. that's what i think. not a couple, i remember this film very well, because i was present at the shooting already as a journalist and filmed the story. unfortunately, the plot has not been preserved, but i remember that in the scene that was filmed then in the pavilion. there were some very famous actors there. lazarev nemolyaeva, and in general in this film mostly moscow actors. and what about our graduate? yes, in the title role, you will agree for the belarusian cinema. it was a rarity that
5:34 pm
the profession strongly affects family relationships in my case. yes, i didn't get it right did not work out, and probably in the first place. it's my fault some selfishness, some busyness. there is a law of karma by self-affirmation and it cannot be bypassed, therefore i am already an elderly person alone. there is nothing more painful than loneliness in old age, as you do with people in your youth. that's how it responds to you in old age. to be honest, i'm a pretty tough person. this is probably because i put a lot of life into my work. uh-huh if you found these galoshes of happiness. what would you ask them then? i would well to the sun never came. and then it would be light for people
5:35 pm
, or you know, but actually not, and perhaps not, let people walk in the dark. they will bump into each other so many foreheads, and they will grow on their foreheads like this to give. i would ask that our wedding be as soon as possible. when will we finally get married? there was generally a cast here, but just starry if you ask this question today, so that you wish you had such galoshes. oh , as an idealist, so that people become kinder. that's what i wish respect for each other understanding
5:36 pm
each other after watching almost 50 films in which you starred. well, i found that here are the main roles you really have a little autumn gift of the fairies the last step and the performance of the soldier and the mother. yes, i am very pleased. what is my performance? and i honestly confess to you that when i was looking for a hero for this performance. of course, i was already guided by the film the last step. i've already seen him. i really liked it. your work. well, as a young inexperienced director. i thought, well, our man is still a student, well, even if i screw up, he’s not much condemn. and maybe even help. let's look at fragments from this performance. i didn't review it. all the same 40 years that you have your films, then it is very dear to me the way all my friends filmed there, my wife, son, daughter. well, as always, with young
5:37 pm
directors, yes, yes, yes. catch do you have a branch? you have a living place.
5:38 pm
always not the result, because there you leave a piece of the soul, yes, and always, when the process is good, then the result is good the great magic of cinema, when we are gone, and on the screen we will remain young beautiful.
5:39 pm
what fascist? always
5:40 pm
when you are preparing for the transfer you want to find a frame that our hero has not seen or forgotten, therefore, i suggest you look. now the next shots, i wonder, remember came out. i have such food or what day today for three days you can’t say. no, i don't know what. well, that also worked out that it's just monday. there is no free money when there is only money. and what piston are you? gifts of chocolate or lower yes, when you were young. i'm no longer a performance you staged. you like to look very belarusian
5:41 pm
and belarusian, so himself and the belarusian taxoma. and do you have a living house, some long hamster gnawed through the aquarium and died. and i'm kay to the branch you are more like an intelligent person roses of such breeds. uh, the dock is a big scary afraid, emotionally somehow feeling. this is the question, kazan, the city should have some kind of kolka fish on the river, you can get a hippopotamus in a day. i do n't think he eats fish, he eats grass at the bottom of the lake. now my feet are in the snow, i was walking,
5:42 pm
my paws got frostbitten and i cried meow, cat, dear, grandfather, you walk friend, come closer, let's get into this circle this is how the cat, barefoot in the snow, walked, froze his paws and cried meow, what kind of divas, the fish says it's easier in the house, the snow is so cold again with fire. and the lion, what kind of shatyrs-radkas, shatyrs-radkas were. uh, learned velmidora. i crown i crown. uh, vitaly is a sperm fly for you and a guest on the ship's way to the aquarium, i'm so the worst thing in our life with shinjago to everyone. oh, well, you saw yourself from the outside, when this program came out, you didn’t see it. the first times today. yes, you have a
5:43 pm
lot of acting experience in cinematography, you must admit there are 50 films. i counted yes more. well, i never wanted to try in the cinema as a director. i wish i had had a little earlier, but since i was busy with the theater, i did not have enough time for a photo. for the document of a foreign passport, you can take off your raincoat. don't look so serious. does it matter?
5:44 pm
they won't let you go abroad. something you are quite depressed. maybe i'm afraid to make you laugh that it's impossible? why? here is another case. attention, timoshkin is re-voicing here. i hear something like a voice, but a little bit different in tone then at the film studio, belarus film. only this film one was filmed. you go to a film studio in belarus everything is immersed in darkness, there are no people. two rooms are only occupied, where this film is no longer there, no one is cold. there were no heaters in the rooms. there
5:45 pm
was no comfort, as they make a snout for actors now, and no. we were sitting by the stove at the boat station, here in the little room by the stove we brought our sandwiches with us and ruby. vitaly told me if someday you will shoot your own film. shoot as many plans as possible, what was, what to select from what to choose? i did not know that you were the chief director of the state youth theater for 14 years. tell me , what is the aftertaste left after these 14 years, that not a single
5:46 pm
team lives at the head of this theater, for a long time 15 years is the limit of the existence of the team. then the psychological stress begins. we had some at the youth theater. wonderful times we were motivated to make a theatre. we had a plastic speech training, we had a constant in the theater repertoire . garden repertoire was schiller shakespeare anton pavlovich chekhov ineska albee molière albee staged the american director molière left the french director. well, i read that in those years, the concept of theater was generally fixed with the theater, theater laboratory, where festivals of young directors were held. everything comes from the director, both in the theater and in the cinema, the director is the basis of the
5:47 pm
foundations. the main thing is that the actors followed you. here it is important that we unite with one desire to do, and it was in the youth theater for a certain time, 10 years, somewhere it was, to be honest, my theater has always lived at the expense of moscow, we very little value our designation as normal. and right there, it's great. it 's fine here, it's great there. and i put on time my first performance incredible people. we looked, well, cool, well done, and then i took him to grodno to the festival, where there were moscow critics, then even moscow critics directly came to our festival, they looked. and on the discussion
5:48 pm
they said, this is the masterpiece of the event, and already our critics. yes, yes, yes, this is an event. and right there i receive an invitation for 2 weeks for you to play this performance further, the theater of friendship of peoples takes this performance and rolls it around russia, and so with all the performances wilgel, exactly the same way, critics came to moscow. and again we have a two-week tour in the moscow art theater. i want us to, uh, look at the frame. i found the only performance. your whole performance, recorded on television. it was sartre when tv has arrived. they say we do n't have enough light. we brought our light completely dark. everything collapsed, for this our program exists, that we can at least fragmentarily show some things.
5:49 pm
i want us to watch another fragment of your performance, which made a lot of noise, both here in the republic and outside of our republic, because it participated in all kinds of festivals. yes, however, this event could easily be predicted by the extremely sweet past night. and completely devoid of the west, but i explain, i
5:50 pm
everything with its almost absolutely asceticism at least the appearance of stability. a man comes out and says, i am not connected with the theater, i know little about it. i have been involved with metal all my life. came to this theater quite by accident. i don't know this artist. but i have never seen such a theatre. and he impressed me. i didn't know what theater was at all, maybe, but now i 'll go. i will find out who salvador dali is, i will look at him. yes, because i was very interested in it. wow, what kind of people do you want, with
5:51 pm
whom you played in your performances some day. no, i never acted in my performances, because, well, the director cannot act in his performances. i look from the side and nothing more. lord yes, nothing is visible and it is impossible to recognize. what is a woman or a pillow? today you are the head of the department of theater directors. yes, you should be aware of all those young ambitious talented directors who are
5:52 pm
being released by our academy today, which were released yesterday, there is hope, and there is hope for some kind of breakthrough today in the theatrical art of our republic. of course, but the director. need to somewhere to open up. give an opportunity to a graduate student to put on a performance, at least on a small stage of your theater. if this student is here at the academy, from what he found here, from what he made with his own hands, from what he published, he brought it. a very good job, then the selection of what you have layouts for him will seem like a fairy tale klondike. well, the actors, probably, will always support it, it is always interesting to work with the young in new dramaturgy. and now the directors are already responding, which of the last
5:53 pm
performances you consider an event in our republic or in the capital. yes, i am very glad that you asked such a question and will be happy to answer it. i consider the event to have happened. recently, these are the notes of a young doctor at the state puppet theater. stops by yevgeny kardik a very professional performance, it combines everything and imagery. and work with objects and the accuracy of acting we have two troubles. this is militant provincialism and provincial snobbery. i call it militant provincialism - this is when we did nonsense, but the key, well, that's what we did. well, we did militant snopism - this is when we did well. and here it is even better. i'm sure your
5:54 pm
aryan appearance. your good shape, in which you are now for the rest of your life , will provide you with an income in the cinema. they used to joke that you need to take one military suit . we need to hang up a bandit suit. well, i also played a lot of bandits of all sorts, and then everyone was laughing now. he will play the germans. i need a german suit hang up. the main thing is that you do not change, that is, the same slender, so the suit can hang for years. mr. captain, the tractor will arrive only in the evening, and there is nothing more to tow. all vehicles have been requisitioned for the front, the devil knows what's going on here, mr. captain, what else tnt without a fuse is not dangerous.
5:55 pm
we will see. order your people to check whether the bridge and the entrances to it have not been replaced. here, i see everything can be expected, and the installation should be hidden until evening in a safe place so that not a single dog can get could. i have java in the studio, but it's not a film, but an object that is connected in some way with your life. i want you to explain to us how this relates to your life. for example, a rare model camera and such a disk alexander
5:56 pm
solodyrkov. yes, the fact is that when i was a hippie, i decided to become a photographer, and i got a job as a photographer in the house of life. art photo in molodechno and i worked as a photographer before entering, of course, and alexander solodukhov alexander solodukhov is a wonderful person, a wonderful friend and sasha invited me to star in the video of someone else's wife, but you are my beloved woman, what is my pig here? i ask friends for announcements, you are someone else's wife, but my beloved woman, you are faithful to another and will never be mine. you know at the end of the program. we always have a blitz poll for our heroes. short question short answer.
5:57 pm
let's not break this tradition. your favorite place in minsk trinity suburb your favorite vacation spot my dacha the country that impressed you the most germany your favorite dish you eat most cook for yourself. rice is your favorite drink , tea. do you drink alcohol? how to become a star? work work and work is your main disadvantage. maximalism is your main thing, the dignity of maximalism, that you value decency and commitment in people most of all. and what is the happiness of vitaly
5:58 pm
katowitzky? the happiness is that i still exist in art and have the opportunity to immerse myself in the rehearsal process. thank you very much for our conversation for sincere answers for the frames that you gave us today. well i hope these shots there will be many more interesting ones filled with creativity. i know that at the end of the program they always give a book with some kind of parting word autograph and decided to donate several works. henri barbusse is such an author who wrote about the war, and i wrote. know don't let it. vitaly of katavisky today, in my opinion, this book is very important. we all live in a completely stressful world, when war becomes the number one threat and not only, as the barbie writes, from the
5:59 pm
government. i see that the people are already addicted to adrenaline. honor the wrestler and understand that adrenaline is not worth severed legs, guts, twisted and all the rest of the destruction of the world.
6:00 pm
good evening combustion, fire extinguisher already dug by those ten people varieties of fruit crops, and thus imports imports.