the long-suffering republic, which took upon itself, and the biggest blow during the great patriotic war, and now we are preparing for the 75th anniversary of the victory, of course. we really want to get to minsk on july 3. as for the external appearance of the city of minsk itself, this is a european city. it is far from being comparable to the cities that we have, everything is a little different, in any case , a certain culture is preserved, but in order for something like this to be built, uh, how upset the city would rise from the ruins and to turn into such a simply handsome man, the city is a unique city in its e, and architectural and that's all. thought out. the main thing is that there are no trifles. the main thing. the main thing is that this is a city for people, a city for belarusians and a city for those who come, to be comfortable, to be able to see and uh, how to say absorb uh and culture

, i was struck by the museum of the great patriotic war. i went to the museum. i cried. that's clear. i went through everything. even now i have tears. i walked through all the halls and you know there was such a feeling human grief and empathy. eh, i believe what is preserved today. this is a great thing. this is great. it's just the right thing to do. we visited the national library. these are masterpiece buildings, where everyone can get certain knowledge, even at a distance. i can become a library reader by enrolling in a library. i can virtual directly from our distant tomsk e, receive certain knowledge and the republic. and that whatever i myself would not want, therefore, i believe that everything will be done and a lot is being done. i've been hit agricultural towns. it would seem that we do not have this, it is

somewhat more goat-like; here there is more kindness and more warmth, that is, it is clear that the state cares about people. often, when i come to belarus, they tell me, well, you are a foreigner. yes, what a foreigner i am, i am belarusian to the marrow, here is my heart. here is my soul here. my home is here, my dear. i

good afternoon. my name is yury yermalinsky. i am an analyst at the belarusian institute for strategic studies. i am dealing with issues of cooperation with the asian region, and today i would like to talk about about how we most effectively enter our turn to asia hello

on the air program say, do not be silent in the studio viktoria popova and tatiana shcherbina visiting us today yuri ermolinsky. hello yuri mikhailovich 2019 you work at the belarusian institute for strategic studies. as a matter of fact, the institute itself, as it seems to me, has been working since this year. and yes , it works, there is on february 15, 2019, you stood at the origins, as they say, and were one of the organizers of this team, alas, no. well i joined the bessie team, literally six months later in august in the month of august, when, in general, the whole kitchen was already cooking. let's say. so you are the coordinator of the author's analytical project big game 2:0 in asia a look from the inside and not only had such an idea, but before that you worked at the embassy in

india and there for sure, well, did you have such an idea? explain what you need, but turn around to asia. well, in general, yes, asian asian impressions did not remain strong enough. they are still present today. but, probably, not only they predetermined. hey, here's the idea. uh, let's say somehow hmm put on a systematic work in this direction. e. because if we are talking about the so-called turn to asia, then this is not some kind of our invention, a tribute to fashion, but this is a global trend. uh, which is fixed from about 2.000 uh of the second year. here's the thing. eh, this is recognized by researchers, both from the west and from the east, both russian and asian. here, and it is generally expressed in the fact that the center of world geopolitics of biology is steadily,

krinitsa towards the global east and global south. we came to the conclusion that it is precisely this direction beyond this distant horizon that is our economic future, but again without denying it. eh, here's some kind of civilizational connection. e with a european direction and cultural and spiritual, including, of course, but the conceptual basic prerequisites and parameters of the turn. president alexander grigoryevich lukashenko has repeatedly pointed to asia. for example, his statement during a meeting with diplomats in july last year, the modern world is not limited only to strange europeans. to you union it is much wider in regions like asia i mean china india pakistan vietnam with which we have good relations africa latin america in the gulf countries of the middle east especially turkey huge potential and limitless opportunities. well, now, but about the fact that we need to turn around. the

prime minister, the minister of foreign affairs, also spoke to asia. well, other also high-ranking people and analysts experts of the turnaround strategy in asia has already been developed. again, in accordance with the instructions given by the president. e republic of belarus at this meeting. uh, developed and approved by the government strategy. work on the far arc, then, e. why do we single out asia because it is in terms of its potential, because well, the far arc is and latin america is and africa well , here, actually, the asian subcontinent. and why does he single out asia, uh, from this entire far abroad. uh, because in terms of potential in terms of gdp in terms of population, for a minute , more than 4 billion people live in the asian tikhon region, which is, well, 60% of the population of the earth e, namely the asian continent e is today the advanced world geopolitics of geoanamy. but you know that it is customary to call the

civilized world, not the asian regions. yes, when we say that the entire civilized world is not supported today by russia and belarus this is not what we say when they talk, yes, about this, then this is 15%, so, after 60% - this is the asian world, but it can be called civilized e statistics, which was recently voiced by the press. uh no, china uh, where 85% of the world community uh didn't join sanctions against russia belarus has joined only fifteen in this term the international community. now it has been somewhat transformed and the narrative is completely different, not the same as they tried to impose on us throughout. that's 30 years old. uh last uh, our western partners for this strategy. surely there are some clear rules. tell us what should we do? now how should belarus move towards asia and what should not be done? well, there are really no rules. we ourselves, uh,

are trying to formulate them. eh, what, probably, our advantage is, that is, we are not limited by any framework. here, i’ll probably say what you shouldn’t do, don’t get involved in image projects for show , in order to simply remove the questions, they solve the problem on the merits. if in examples, then you don’t need to sell one elevator, yes, to some asian country. after all, we've made a connection. in general, a really primitive approach. eh, the question is rather broad. after all, we first of all mean, by uh turn to asia, this is integration of deeper integration a cultural and civilizational space in order to instantly understand our uh asian partners and counterparts better understand what you mean, after all. explain yury mikhailovich well, you said that this should happen first yes, and as for integration with asia, they are economic, which should happen to me. that is, i should treat them

like c brothers. well, why not, first of all, be more interested in what is happening in asia because, well, our thinking in caucasians is quite stereotypical in this regard. well there are reasons for this. uh, to understand more deeply, uh culture tradition of working business etiquette. the information agenda to own to own, let's say, some nuances of uh doing business, because asia is great and multifaceted, we, uh, have recently been involved in china not unreasonably, of course, but china this is just a part of asia i remembered one episode from own life. we were going to the festival with a big businessman and stopped at a cafe for lunch, and he says, well, why? we are cycled to nearby countries, we trade all the time with the same russian asian market, he is limitless and said. as a matter of fact, what you are talking about now, but the

political scientist shpakovka was our guest, and he said that there were people in the localities. well, this is how they work, and showed it. well, that is, whether they came across this here or not, that, well, it’s very difficult to put this idea into your head, it’s really unconditional. uh, the inertia of thinking western-centric thinking, on it is present and in order to change the situation dramatically. time time patience uh effort but just like we say how love belarus our melody demanded regions to visit exactly the opposite in order to motivate e society, well , rather, probably, the professional community. uh, from a new angle of view , look specifically towards the asian region. do you think that they should go there in order to be imbued with that spirit, yes, take on a tour. how long have you lived in india for almost 3 years, exploring asia, probably, among the key points

is taking into account the national cultural characteristics of the host country. e, in in general, there is a definite and personal experience when u arriving in india u with a small child. e with a fair-haired five-year-old girl, at first it was very unusual when many tried to touch her, and even more photographed, of course. vala, at first , such a reaction of rejection, although then you gradually get used to it and perceive it as a given and even pleasant somewhere. where is e? the heat is tougher than yours in belarus or in india, here in india 45-50 ° is transferred, uh, here. well, if you take the doman period, uh, much, much, easier, you can do not even change your shirt back, although it is clear that you are jumping from air conditioner to air conditioner. it is

minimally moving around the streets on foot, but nonetheless. let's get out of the oven. now, from you personally. some belarusian goods are missing there. and so that at that stage, when they were there, they thought that it would be nice if ours appeared here. you know, in fact , there are problems with belarusian goods. we didn't really experience it. uh, because and uh, our silage brands were present there, that's and meat that's what was missing. the question is not what i lacked, but what lacks, uh, the indian consumer, but consumer preferences in such a huge country as india are radically different from state to state, if uh, let's say in the north in the same national district of delhi, they eat one thing in the south, it may seem like a sea tone and a completely strange gastronomic preference, so in order to understand what is missing in each particular region.

uh, you need to go there to study, because no concept of indian market. there is a market for each of the twenty-eight states. this turn itself is generally for a long time or it is, well, so to speak, such a short respite before resuming. e relations with the west. you know a lot of people ask a good question, and i myself ask it often. eh, here, but if history teaches us something, then today we are witnessing a return to a two-hundred-year-old historical one. normally, when it was asia that set the tone, the same india formed two -thirds of the world's gdp, well, in the current categories, 2/3 of the world's population lived there. well and this turn itself is uh, well, what's the point? that is, we simply turned 180° from the west and rushed to the east. i would like to immediately place in asia that there is no accent, but, of course, we do not break. e economic cord with europe well, mentally , we are still europeans, we are talking about some kind of

rebalancing of rebalancing and a harmonious addition to creating e, a comparable humanitarian economic political infrastructure in the asian region, which has been here for 30 years. e since e independence established on the western direction. well, a little more important factor. as you said, our opponents are reacting very sharply to this turn. and for us it is a good sign of good boots. we must take our it people made a tag cloud on the topic turning to asia, this is a tool for the belarusian info field for 2.000, 22. here in belarusian, well, this is our know-how. uh, crazy big data. mm. we often resort to it lately in order to say not in words, not on fingers, but in visual use in modern technologies example to show, let's say, this or that trend, so let me explain, it means that everything that is in the center is a media slice

; what we got means, well, media see cooperation, that is, continuous positive means, uh, and in general, uh from the point of view of uh, the analytical component of the trend. uh, turn east. e, it is extremely positive, which, in general, can characterize the keywords development times, perhaps the union what is there, he is still world, and i would also add a journey here, because you yourself know what the situation is now and ours. it seems to me that citizens have turned towards asia from this point of view as well. the only thing. so far, i can say that we have been conducting an online expert on an online question among industry specialists and the number of motivators is tourism. and how do belarusian industrialists feel about this idea of ​​​​turning to asia, as it

were, are optimistic or that’s all skepticism, more relationships are different. well actually. it fine. this is normal, because each person has his own experience of such a level of a person of a specialist official. uh, as if your preferences here are your sorry phobias. that's what is also normal more optimistic. i would say for businesses, especially those who already have experience in the it-sphere. including uh investment business, that is, our investments in asia, they are trading companies. just look, as it were, what is my phobia and peter petrovsky , who was our guest, china. we attribute this to the turn right? you said, that this is right here with us so far the most successful experience, it will robotize all production the fastest very soon. and we are a social state. we want to keep working. yes, and

places right here here. there is no conflict, i wonder the conflict between us and asia and the asian approach to the chinese in particular. well , if we talk about china and robotization. just recently, a figure caught my eye. uh, over 19% graduate unemployment. this is quite a serious indicator. uh, over which e chinese it is, yes. this is china uh, well, i wouldn't not and i wouldn't look only at china uh, china uh yes, it's important, it's needed, but it's a big country, it's one of the players. but in general, personally, i adhere to the point of view that we should have. uh, broad diversification is weird. that is, at least several points of support in each cathedral. this provides stability. e, first of all, from the point of view, er, and the economy, and er, let's say, minimizes the possibility of falling into the zone of political risks. well, for example, there is the pakistan market there 225 million. the population is 220.

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analyst of the belarusian institute for strategic studies yuri yermolinsky yuri mikhailovich, we have already somehow touched upon the issue of the mentality of the difference. in general, in the mentality of the european population asian. there is such a cultural map by irina mayer, and here it shows how individual cultural aspects differ in the leading economies of the world. can you comment on the emphasis was placed on the fact that russia found the closest strategic partner. uh, closer in a number of ways, like planning for trust. here, uh, and so on, still closer to the asian region, specifically to india, turkey

than to the west. only two options. this is a categorical answer and something personal rejection. it’s more, let’s say russia is referred to, uh, it is to the western cultural trend follows from the uh geographical aspect. namely, that almost 70, in my opinion, percent of the territory of russia is still asia, and 30 e, 30. this is the european part, but anyway, somehow speaking about russia, it is generally accepted that it is still more european country. well, this is a eurasian country. this is a eurasian country. in general, that recently. uh sounds more centered both in politics and in economics. why then a long time? uh, that’s exactly what this idea was brought up and it was supported and inspired in every possible way that russia is europe is it appropriate to return to the events of the dramatic events of the ninety-first year, in a word, the soviet union and we all remember well? like

in this hole. e, having formed a void, more precisely rushed. in general, everything that, probably, was in the forefront of scrapping in the soviet union, uh, was imposed. as ideas, uh, traditions of approaches, uh, in politics in economics in culture, when you say that we are 70% russians asians says geography, then what characteristic features do you put into this concept, well, i mean, and you find more points contact with russians with nets than with europeans. common border and intercultural communication across the border. it always e gives a certain mix of mixed cultures, a mix of tradition, a mix of approaches across the whole territory. that's what asians are for you and what europeans are for you. well, first of all, this is a fundamentally different attitude to life. uh, attitude to

work attitude to a woman attitude to family to children probably, first of all, at such a household level, the trends of recent years, when they refuse the words mom, dad for me there parents number one parents number two. uh, heaps of genders of some kind. yes, that's all, this is hmm blooming in a lush color in the west. in the east in asia, such things are generally possible, well, the east is conservative. we must give him his due. although it must be admitted at the same time that after all these globalists are tendencies, they penetrate both everything and conservatism. today she is directly trans-this is all these directions, about which you say everything that south korea is some kind of, let's say , some. a testing ground for the united states for the anglo-saxons in order to

so that here, too, in japan, too, south korea is to a lesser extent, because well, she is still trying to pursue a more pragmatic and balanced policy in relations. uh, with the same united states, china, being more economically tied, is already controlled by a figure. understand, well, as if young people have google and that's it. and here they see trends in tectonics. they don't listen. there , in japan, the same, as it were, the 16th century of their own, authentic peasants, this is all good for the festival. they are included in the global processes to keep. it's impossible. well, of course these processes are difficult to control. and they don't need to. it hasn't succeeded yet. it just needs to be well managed. uh, in the interests of the state in the interests of society. i would still say that going to asia, we should focus on traditional asian values. and not some now, let's say modified. taking into account the influence of uh external factor well then. what are these values? this is a family,

for example, respect for elders is the veneration of working people. actually, there can only be nothing new with national specifics , when people came to belarus only when chinese investors began to come, then, well, sometimes you could hear such an opinion that they say, china will absorb and colonize us, how much we need to be afraid in this regard , fear of china is some form of ignorance. it seems to me that there is no need to be afraid in any case, china needs to be studied, because here, for all that, our close relationship. it seems to me that we know china very little. uh, extremely superficial, for example, someone can talk today in terms of thirty- six e chinese countries. unlikely to study to study again to study the delivery of understanding, because i recommend that if you have not watched it yet, watch the american factory documentary, which

shows how the chinese aggressively operate in the market even in the american. and they have, uh, kind of stupidly taller, and you know, the smoke is not as liquid as ours. well, as it were, this is the whole question, just the same, that we understand well how the chinese act. china acts primarily from a position of its own national interests. here, uh, hands inconspicuously in debt questions of strategy strategy tactics that we often ascribe to the west to exactly the same degree, well, how would they work in the east and we are now, as it were, with you, well, so that it doesn’t happen that we idealize akhazia cars. national values ​​are also very dangerous competitors, aren’t they? certainly here. in general, there should be no illusions that they are waiting for us there with open arms, and that in the same china or in that

same india, we need to fight for a place in the sun. we can become the same raw material appendage. just need this on the road way uh, there uh, our square and so on. well, as it were, these are things that are even right on the surface of the neterri. mihajlovich probably, none of this can be ruled out. but as they say , forewarned is forearmed. again, i will return to my thesis, but in order for this to happen, china must be known and understood at a deep level, and for this it is necessary, well, to arm yourself with new knowledge. well, i also liked your thesis that we are not one china after all. well.