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and we are divided 10 times lower than in the whole of the european union and like this, so we have accessibility in this respect. the event was attended by well-known specialists from italy great britain germany france the netherlands for the first time in 16 years the conference was held outside of minsk the nesvizh castle was chosen on the occasion of the anniversary the conference is dedicated to the centenary of the birth of academician of belarus nikolai savchenko famous belarusian urologist md 52 years ago performed the first transplant kidneys in our country. zones for skate park and exercise equipment in gomel opened the largest sports playground in the city, it took only a few months to build it. the complex can accommodate more than 100 children at the same time. it has everything you need for sports and outdoor activities. a new project united a generation, for example, the workout zone appeared thanks to a gomel student. andrei bobravnychai offered his idea to the city authorities, provided
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the necessary schemes and drawings, and supported the initiative of the future engineer. project was developed based on the experience of our participation in many competitions. we realized that there are a lot of horizontal bars. they are all narrow. we specifically expanded them so that the guys would not get injured. we also developed this rubber crumb. this is rubber, the crumb is not needed in order for the rain that will be, so it will simply soak into the ground inside that there is a platform. and you can ride whenever you want, both on a scooter and on roller skates and socks. i really like the sports complex. i will always come and ride here on a scooter, a sports game complex, a gift to the residents of mil. on the eve of the city day on saturday, the regional center will celebrate the great anniversary of 880 years. in total, chagall was collected within the walls of the national art project, already dubbed the event of the year, the cream of all
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known exclusive collections, literally for the first time combined in a museum of originals from under the brush, flying over vitebsk in belarus , very few works are owned by private collectors and personal museums in the artist’s homeland. every canvas was slapped special committee. he coordinates the movement of the walker all over the world, so the premiere was collected scrupulously so as not to violate copyright in the first hall, which in the building on marx has 11 paintings with avant-garde constants. in the space opposite, there are four dozen graphic sketches based on the dead souls of gogol, an art delivery from the vitebsk museum. well, it was the circumstances that determined the concepts. we decided for the first time, probably, to rethink. it happened in a very curious way. just this rethinking of that heritage in an artistic brand zakharovich shagal, which is in belarus , so we decided, and this is a wonderful idea to collect what actually exists in our native land. that is, well, despite the fact that the
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collection is small, nevertheless, it illustrates very well the main motives, as well as creativity and themes paced. this and the lovers, that is, we can say that she is, uh, modest, but uh, at the same time, quite eloquent, it, given such a small number, the concept was to distribute them in such a way that they still hmm had some kind of zoning, therefore the architecture of the exposition was very necessary here. today, the exhibition is in the process of mounting the art collection chagall presents at the event, september night this saturday, the national art will host aesthetes until midnight. and on this information issue is completed - this is the hydrau of the day at 9:00 pm ekaterina tikhomirova will let you down in the panorama; five medals are the result of the performance of our cutlets today at the
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international tournament cup of the belarusian shooting sports federation, which these days pass in minsk in shooting from a small-caliber pistol among women there were no equals to nadezhda leovets tatyana razumovichu, the second bronze of the uzo and give a lump, but in the women's tournament in shooting from a small-caliber rifle exercise mv-5 only the last shot of the belarusian. vladislava pranko snatched the gold medal from the russian. violetta dinaeva bronze from the eminent maria martynova, taking into account the fact that we began to compete with our neighbors. they visit us . we are to them. this is a very rewarding experience. and, probably, now there will be a recovery the period when everything is necessary, probably, to physically relax, but in my head i still think everything that happened, everything that has been worked out and then the main forces and with new thoughts to move on, the international tournament will end on saturday.
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today our topic is history, as a subject, as science and as politics with you studio alyona stern kirill kazakov hello well,
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last week belarus celebrated the day of knowledge so it turned out to be national no less a big open lesson in the palace of independence was held by the head of state, but for us, probably, in this format, this is a certain historical event, and i must say that despite the fact that in the palace of independence there were mainly students, schoolchildren cadets well, that is, high school students. yes, this is the lesson . it seems touching to me. well, all segments of the population and ages, given that it is still being discussed. in general, as a matter of fact, with, uh, the events of the past week, we will begin , uh, our today's program. as you know, not everyone listened to this open lesson. here, right in the palace, someone was listening in assembly halls in schools and if the opinion of the guys. which especially distinguished themselves during a lesson in the palace of independence, we heard the day before in all the
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media, they already managed to explain their motives and actions, the opinion of the guys who listened, and the head of state from the tv screens at school. well, it probably hasn’t sounded yet. kirill, i know that you were one of the students who spent september 1 in this format. tell me, but before that, probably, all the first lessons were yes, well, in standard 45 minutes, and hmm every year. well a new topic, well plus or minus the same this time 4 hours was not difficult, but every year the same lessons the same teachers this year were not very memorable for us with the guys, because the president started the school year with a history lesson. this is where i improved my knowledge. i have systematized them as well and i wanted to return to history. to begin with, i would like to know more about my country in general. well , what does it give us and what are our priorities
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in this area? well, based on what a say our opponents. and basically it sounds on the internet. they say that young people were bored. barely hatched to the end. this lesson was difficult to explain, they were not ready to accept everything hung on their phones. well, with proud envy, with kind envy, i envied the guys who were present at the palace of independence. so i would very much like alexander grigoryevich to visit my school. this is the largest school in the moscow region. middle school number nine. here is my favorite school. i am very grateful to her, kirill itself such a simple question. well how how they say? yes, let's go, for example, i go on an excursion with children with someone, i tell , i show something, my task, probably, is not to tell everything about this event, monuments or what happened here. and probably about the fact that he came. now i use all means of mass. and communications climbed there in the same google read. and what is trostenets, and what is the treaty of brest, and what
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is the peace of riga, what is left? well, for example, i returned home, yes, i turned on the computer in the shower, christmas trees. that's what i'm not understood. let me see. you know, it seems to me that if we come with the guys to some historical place, so that a person would let us feel this place, so that we could feel the atmosphere. here is the brest fortress. we were ok. i understand everything, what was left after this lesson with the president, that, well, i wanted to know more here. and what topic you just wanted to read, but our achievements. uh, well, it was necessary to use our technologies that we are developing. i am very proud that we have a htp, we are developing, we are moving in this area. we have engineering is happening. uh, because i really love the electric car. i would like some startup from belarus shot just like tesla, so i want to be proud of my country. here, as a question to the teacher to the
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president, in principle, it was built quite classically. at first, the questions began, what did you ask? answer, then showed the artifact showed. look, then the cart came up, then he gave a lecture himself. basically. it is from those parts that the usual lesson consists not only of history, any lesson guys, what were you asked? what did they understand? now i'll tell you something new and let's show it clearly. this was an example of a classic lesson. and how the president behaved, how teachers. well, before answering your questions. i would like to emphasize that in fact it is extraordinary when the leader of the country gives the first lesson the first historical lesson for students and senior classes and students. and it is symbolic that this lesson took place on september 1 on the day of knowledge in the years of historical memory. e in conditions of aggravation of politi. the situation on our borders yes and despite the head of state was very busy, he
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found time to conduct the first lesson and showed us a master class with a teacher of various levels, how it is very emotionally easy to tell the children the history of your country, make it proud. actually. this is a lot for us. so it's a charge. here, in principle, for the entire academic year. of course, i am not a teacher either. but it seems to me that i still do not agree with you that it was a classic form. igor tell me that before the start of this lecture, but in the palace of independence we discussed. yes here is how it can start. whether the president would follow tyson, almost everyone was sure that he would not, but that he would start exactly with these characters. well, you could hardly guess? yes, i agree, it seems to me that alexander grigoryevich tested the audience at the very beginning and lectures in order to understand in general, as a teacher, who is everything, how he reacts to basic things, if the reaction of the children's audience in the first place was
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different to the theses that i said the president, as chief lecturer, and other adults, as additional lecturers, may maybe this stage was longer, shorter, different, but as for me, alexander grigorievich saw that in the hall the guys are different with different understandings of historical processes with different abilities and desires to study modern belarus to draw conclusions and draw parallels. based on this, here is the initial part . well, this was in terms of volume, and after the main lecture, questions and answers appeared , i’ll still take it upon myself to boldly say that alexander grigorievich was originally, but hmm, he had a certain plan for the lecture alone, but during the lesson i had to, like most. to me teachers seem to adapt to the audience, which he, in general, saw for the first time. i want to pay attention to how the educational function of the lesson was subtly implemented, this is the most. a subtle point in each lesson that requires great professional skill and speech and is not about
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reading some kind of moralizing. look here, that moment with the awards of vasil bykov, which had a great educational effect, because it made you think, and mmm is present today and today we are talking about some new technologies in the lessons, including among history there is a technology of critical thinking, in which there is a technique of thin and thick questions, and the head of state very skillfully used this technique, because subtle questions are those that require simply reproductive reproduction, what, where and when, and when questions require reflections reasoning, the so -called thick questions. there were a lot of them in this lesson. they asked for tests. they demanded reasoning and evaluative argumentation. it was very important. the magical setting that was i, for example, watched live, of course, those who were
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inside, they felt this situation a little differently. well, still, even as on tv, how it felt, but in fact i don’t agree with opa garbage dumps, who said that they were children. uh, young people children students were bored. i did not see any dullness by non-verbal signs. there was interest, and there was attentiveness, because i agree with igor there really is an audience, uh, with different opinions. but even so, in everything the president was able to involve them and mind you, and not frightened uncomfortable questions that appeared they were not provocative. they were uncomfortable. what does this say about the totalitarian regime of children? no fear, no fear. i didn't read. uh, fear on their faces. it was interest. it was this some even hope on the other hand. after all, there were those schoolchildren in the palace of independence and in the assembly halls, which, by their very nature, are everywhere and always and interestingly read by lukashenka or
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some other teacher. he just doesn't sit still and it's hard to focus. and so lukashenka says, i won’t take you, i won’t undertake to quote you verbatim, they force you to listen. although in general. sometimes you need to take and make everything listen to the school. yes, if everyone is given the choice of a loan in a lesson or not going to a lesson, i have big doubts that 100% will come to school. igor is a question as a journalist. this is such a journalistic cliché, but it was drawn out anyway. here in this one. uh, this event has policy statements from adults. this is for adults. obviously, that's what i'm talking about now. journalistic question. yes, that is a program statement. it is clear that the guys listened to the story, listened to the facts, perhaps they knew, about which they read, perhaps not. but they had a policy statement, but it was such an important moment, er, and at least the head of state. in general, i explained the connection between and but it would be good for schoolchildren and students to independently reflect and compare
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historical facts with those events that are taking place in modern times. but because the policy statement concerned the fact that is happening now, but in general, the logic of the head of state led to the fact that what is happening now - this is a logical conclusion from what happened earlier, so this stage is an independent conclusion and comparison, the guys should make it out, since they did their homework did not do. this is a different question here. it seems to me to ask already and other adult teachers to explain. and what was meant and somewhere even to make you think the most, probably, it is important that the story. she absorbed all the questions that economics and politics were considered in the lesson social questions of culture of journalists those questions that were considered - this is history and uh, the president how uh?
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he showed the first education of a historian and a mogilev state university of one of our leading universities with a first-class education how to teach, that is, she said that later, not with the guys at all, she said that his lesson was such a belarusian one. but do you agree that there were such notes of nationalist? yes, this, uh, very it was interesting. uh, listen when uh the president clearly laid out this issue related to national nationalism and nazism and further. look here for real. i'm from the national academy of sciences of belarus. we have the national library and many things that are used. that's the word the national president gave very clear answers. and the fact that about the belarusians is a clear legal lesson of the republic of belarus is a sovereign topic so that the national academy of sciences does not turn into a nationalist this is a joke, but the meaning i think the asset of the national academy, we are today, uh september 1,
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carefully listened to the history of the institute in the academy of sciences in the big hall on the day of knowledge e day, when the institute for the training of scientific personnel. uh, the national academy of sciences became the university of the national academy of sciences rus and here are 110 undergraduates, including from china , we uh pay special attention to this, they sat and listened and did not know very carefully what you were discussing among themselves. this is also a definite value. here is this lesson stories, you know? i also have a note in the margins, but about those who, probably, are closely following our agenda and the speeches of the head of state. for them, maybe not. well, there is so much new in this lesson, especially about current events for young people, but for children for teenagers, who only immersed in the agenda know a lot about the top or from the stories of parents or more, uh, older
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comrades, but it seems to me that there were many discoveries , for sure, after all, we read very different sources of information cyril where you gain knowledge about what is happening. on the internet, the internet, please, or these are really classic sites. ah youtube to all social networks youtube instagram telegram as far as we are well youth, we and all the rest of us, well in your case, look on the internet are subscribed. no, i don't know what's good. but the classic hmm cool watch. for example, in my school childhood there was a class hour. we could discuss some news. someone was funny to someone. it was not interesting, but still it was a kind of information delivery. this is what you have there is something. ah, of course we have cool hours. we get together and discuss, listen to the opinions of different guys, that is, of course, it’s not very good that there is
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also a republican project, the school of an active citizen, which, among other things, discusses socio-political issues. a. tell me, the school of an active citizen is a very well-known project even for journalists. we say yes, but if in the opposite direction. well, to see what the schoolchildren take out from there. here, tell me from the teacher's point of view and from the point of view of the student himself. yes, you heard it, you left and slammed it. uh, briefcase and come home. and you basically don't. nothing remains. what is it, well, we are discussing, of course, this, well, you need to take all points of view and highlight your own. here i think. well, you need to listen to me never once parents influence parents. we talk, of course, happens parents are teachers friends with everyone, a u from the teacher's point of view, how does the school of an active citizen help to communicate with children. after all, he said it right. there are people, there are children. yes, schoolchildren which, well, it's not interesting, in principle, it's not interesting and will never be interesting. well
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actually. i think this is not very true, because any person. he is interested in something , the question is how to this person, that is, a small one. mm, more people to convey information at our school, for example, at the school of an active citizen. we invite, you know, we even invite ministers and when, uh, high school students sit and chat in one. you know, they don't come at all. left setting, they're allowed ask all the questions they want to hear. yes, they are breaking the mold. do you know such a strict official? and i'll probably give my point of view. it seems to me that after all, this very popular thesis that they talked with the minister on a short footing that you can go take a picture with the president. i don’t mind honestly, but it seems to me that it’s still a kind of feeling. so-and-so is the correct word. this is how it should exist, because when a boy breaks down and runs to the president. well, i i understand that this is probably correct, but on the
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other hand. i'm like a schoolboy. i would be ready for this moment. for me it would be a kind of sacred action. here is my personal opinion. well, maybe i'm wrong. well, no one says that for a student this is not a sacred action. and that he wasn't prepared for it. maybe he mustered up the courage to run. but nevertheless, he has this opportunity. i think this one might be an opportunity. this is definitely a plus for alexander grigorievich yes, absolutely. i agree. he had some doubts that he can, then just take this photo, he decided to take off. and just now, well, well done, some translated, but well done. yes, that's what excuse me colleagues care about, right? here, let's specifically, this guy who went out to be photographed with the president has a meeting with the head of state, as with a historian, and perhaps, firstly, the opportunity to listen to a lot of firsthand and ask a question questions here i have hmm the next thought. and what was more important for him to take a photo with the president or learn something new, ask
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a question, gain some knowledge. and if it is more important for him to take a photo, so that everyone would say some cool thing to do in history, because he burned down the temple. this is also a story without questions with igor, because he had more emotions on it. the fact of photographing than when he asked a question was noticed that, well, such bright of the guys sitting in the hall of bright people, but three or four were singled out, so a young man who differed from the inscription, a young man who ran to take a picture, and a young man who said the gift is dressed. uh huh, yeah here. you look how they divided these guys. and that means our respected comrades opponents. uh, right there, the enemy just grabbed it clearly, the enemies picked up the agenda, and immediately determined who is ours and who is not ours, while zakhara only on the principle that he speaks the belarusian language made their own and,
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well, it turns out somehow strange that we according to the principle of mov, we share alexander grigorievich immediately switched to the belarusian language, and began to speak the same language with the young man. and kind of like questions with not you. why our components made it theirs the symbol and e replicated the dialogues. oh, the headlines that a young man laid siege to the president in belarusian. the question is, because, uh, for our opponents or enemies, it is a glaring fact and mega-news for their adherents that someone in a conversation with alexander grigorievich, but allowed himself to say something that they might not have expected. what personally alexander grigorievich is more than normal, but in our media field there is such an aura that if something extraordinary happens, it means that it was not agreed upon according to plan. this is some sabotage and so on. that is, if schoolchildren came to drive them, yes, a 100%. if a question,
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it means that they wrote very cool, that then our colleagues will. e from various tv channels. with the same students. we talked, quite normally, the schoolchildren told someone showed off. some people had their own thoughts. well, in general, these are not forbidden schoolchildren, and we did not pretend that they did not exist at all. but, to be honest, i have doubts that we would have acted this way earlier, so the twentieth year, for some reason, finished our education. well, in the same constipation situations. i would like to draw attention. at the moment when the president asked him about the soviet period, zakhar began to tell his point of view, and then added that, however, i am trying to figure out what is happening and since this dialogue took place. uh, this dialogue took place at the beginning. i think that with this in mind , the president, among other things, built his further speech and focused on certain events during the period hmm our soviet period of history
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some knowledge for everyone absolutely for children different ages. and me here's a story. it seems to me that this lesson was rather multi-layered. we are talking about the fact that it was informative for schoolchildren, and citable for journalists, but for historians it was, in principle, very little symbolic. who noticed that the first of september is the day the second world war began and the whole topic of the president, which was it was about peace, but that we have to achieve peace, and sometimes win not necessarily weapons, but for historians. it was a special message. or not? you know, i've rewatched it several times since . here are many moments to communicate with with their colleagues. here is stanislav yuretsky,
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who answered his vision and opinion of global and personal knowledge or study. one can say through, uh, a small homeland, through a personality, what, in principle, is correct. because history makes a personality. e xu studying the whole history. and it is very important for me that the president revealed all, uh, pages of history, what he always said, what draws attention to what he said about when he collected historians. he said i have a history of belarusian statehood. here is a five-tonner, where many moments are connected with the historical national forms of the belarusian statehood. he opened and failed. in addition to what happened at the referendum on the constitution, we have the fifteenth fifty-fourth article - this is the fifteenth great patriotic war, the heroism and trade of the
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great patriotic war and world war ii, and further article 54, where all the deep history is thousand years old. and if there is a deep, thousand-year history of belarus republic of belarus with the harm of a sovereign independent state. we are not afraid of anything. we can look to the future, and the fact that september 1st is knowledge day and the lessons of the president's history. i think it. uh, i just couldn't help but pay attention to those events that took place more than 81 years ago. and uh, the event of the rome peace treaty, this approach to his map, when he clearly showed the borders that remained, and what? today for us for belarus means september 17 , 1939 national unity day, which we just already, which in the telegrams in the telegrams excuse me, i already speak in the language of the
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users was also discussed. we had some time when the economy beat politics. well, it so happened that we always talked about the fact that we should earn more and sell more, and the story on this day, didn’t it lead to the fact that politics won over the economy, and that, and politics needs to think in exactly the same way , as about the economy, because somewhere thinking about the earnings of the country. we have missed the ideology of politics, that very twentieth year happened. that's right. uh, historians, probably valentina vasilievna, many of my colleagues, i don’t know, i petrovich would agree that, uh, in the first place, uh, there should be history, history is the mentor of life. we sometimes forgot, if we already touch on national security or the concept of national security or the word as national interests, unfortunately, we are these national interests, our national interests through the historical and cultural archaeological heritage through the significance of these historical events
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for the entire belarusian people. for our country. for some reason, uh, well, they put it on a different plan, based on the mentality. features objective subjective some, probably, the reasons they pulled to the fore was somehow here's a minus. and what our historical neighbors did was to tell their stories. well, somehow i didn’t want to, because , well, the relationship is now normal, or is it still normal for what to start? yes, and that's why we missed it, many here, in relation to just a second, i'll add. these are the questions related to the 21st year. riga world. we got off to a good start last year. here are my colleagues in france, uh, vyacheslav viktorovich danilovich and we called angry. shny unfair riga peace, which is another polish occupation, how easy it is to call everything in 1920 you have the words plastovsky open the book. i also cited this, uh, example. uh, polish occupation,
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belarus in 1920, people were not shy. although, uh, the wenceslast people lived in this context. we, too, are living in the context of the twentieth year of this century. we can be tougher . i don't know what will happen in 100 years. and what kind of relations we will develop with our neighbors, but it seems to me that it is ours that we are now as modern historians. journalists write down what we say, perhaps, like ilostovsky, let's leave what he says to his opposition colleagues. uh, they, too, when last year we discussed these issues related to the thirty-ninth year, almost no one said that it was wrong. something not needed. that's about history on that scale. so voluminous, so whole. uh, they hardly speak in schools, and i already remember my recent school years, it seems to me that here is the history of the world history of belarus yes, absolutely two different subjects, but somehow. according to my feelings, world history was taught and perceived much more enthusiastically
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than the history of belarus. it seems to me that after what we saw last week approaches, including teachers should change the given trends for them. she is the father of fedor, he said very well, it's very cool that dry teaching. history will not cause love for the motherland, because those dates and events, and the meaning and meaning are lost, because that the history of the world there is constantly reading some kind of movement, something is happening some kind of e political, including political processes, and the history of belarus agrees, salty, in my memory, a little longer, much longer than alena's and there dry. eh, the story line and actually. everything. yes. let me say what i remembered, when i listened to the discussion, i remembered the words of the great historian klyuchevsky, who says that history is a strict lady, and she punishes very painfully for an unlearned lesson. actually
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deed. alexander grigoryevich demonstrated this when he spoke about the beginning of the great patriotic war. yes, she said that the soviet leadership knew, were there really reports that the war was about to begin, even the dates of the conference were gone on june 21 in history lessons, they say belarus or not, because you understand, but it’s not a matter of learning some dates and it is completely different when you are told with specific examples and specific events, including some contradictory possibilities of the institute. they teach that there are events, there is a cause and there is a consequence. this is normal historical science. as a professional historian, i tell you, well, at school it is based on the same principle, historicism. and on the fact that any event has prerequisites. reasons itself. the third consequence and its significance for the story of cyril is that of what the president told from different periods of any choose from the ones you voiced mm, perhaps you didn’t know, and what you
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remember most of all. world war ii but that's exactly what the president did. well our audi well at the hall step that we are very attentive listened and noticed to some data that, well, we didn't know or not google here in history. i'm just a little bit to the full question of alena and in history, what period do you like the most? relatively speaking, the princely knightly gentry revolutionary military modern, well, conditionally in history there is another periodization, as it were very abstract, then these things are attractive. here is the president, turovskaya noted, we are passing through the principality , but within a small framework. now, if only we were and were much more. and if we touched him a little more, then i nowhere. see. you correctly
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corrected me. i made a periodization of this non-scientific one for me, as a teacher by education. moreover, history teachers from socio-political disciplines, that's not the point. here, again, our users periodization is popular. uh-huh, yes, and when they take and popularize like this, as we say knights, it means that these are exclusively hussars who hid. this should be beautifully presented beautifully to draw labels and draw on t-shirts, and everyone buys another one. it was a very powerful moment, i added, yes, but the history of the able god, yeah. he was very much remembered, personally, and this was the very moment when the president gave a specific example that young people performed. here's a historian. that's what the facts say, and uh, it seems to me that a lot of people thought about it after that, of course, perform it, but think that you are doing a question, maybe to popularize rather than scientifically substantiate. you know school
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history courses, it is built on certain principles and schools. history subject, of course, do not rain is not identical hmm science history. this is simply an adapted presentation of the scientific knowledge that exists today for a certain age. we can’t get away from the principle of science from the principle of historicism , but as for, uh, how to teach history today so that it, uh, likes it firstly, as a subject and yes, and so that it touches the soul, if we today we are talking about the need to educate students to form a historical memory, which means that history needs to be taught so that it really touches the soul, and for this it is necessary and emotional, let's say. so the presentation of educational material and the use of various sources of information. and what is important, you need to ask
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students questions not only what, where and when, but you need to ask questions why and why you think so so that he can argue his point of view for half an hour, and this is not quite a lesson. we succeeded, but let's go for a little change. and then we continue our conversation about history. well , kuzma ivanovich there is such a phrase, she biting, but not very beloved by historians, that history is a graveyard of withered upwards. here, tell me, please, we really remember what happened and whether it is necessary. here we are talking to our modern children about the fact that without history, without the past, there will be no future. but uh, say the hollywood writers. we can draw any future for you. we'll just draw any past. what should be the history in order to be understood and our future was really interesting. with a full glove i would say that
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from the truth in the world they are treated by the theater, as we will show. here it is in the images and guilty in the images of being stanoviches in our belarus history, and so it begins with daunina. is it mine to observe my own sleepiness, subjugating there from the floor with a hood differently and holding us and the great fire and the speech of the commonwealth and the russian empire, and only in the twentieth century, we begin our sovereignty, belarusian sovereignty, with its silhouette, writing history, it is obliged to be on frame and real documents. and so they set it up for the fullness of historical traditions, that is, secondary memory. what is passed on from generation to generation kolizguem, it will no longer be history, and it can be prescribed. for all this, i rob ukraine to reduce . and it’s possible for the last century, in 2019, the ukraine of europe recorded it activated that they
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will fight for the historical memory of european ukraine. it’s true, this is already robin only a husband and the western one, which is accepted by the constitution, to rob the abovyansk bone hulk to brush off for historical memory. well, osh, the features of the laws. which were adopted the genocide of the belarusian people is being studied by the great detox war under the armchair of history. and what kind of obedience is she unconditional, and she is guilty of being sent, that’s where the historian is to be fed, here oleg is necessary and the methods of joking, because zara grinned, we’re talking about historical memory, then you know and she’s diverse and collective and she’s individual the frenchman heals, what’s the most the main thing is the national memory national memory investors. there are so many, there i can, as it were, in the place of this historical pad, really show everything and
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to tell, because here’s the ladies, and in belarus this won’t bother you. until now , know your historical personality, because both a pistons of a real war and skin attacked a meter here in belarus, maya has a warm historical memory, and we are guilty of forming . these are the approaches to memory. i didn't form. how is the memory? i like and of course, a diplomatic question. you know, in a diplomat there is such a notion that international law is most often either higher or lower than national law. that is, you want to say that in this history the national history should be slightly higher than the international one, and to rob. how to show yourself such that all over the world, in general, national law, national interesting things begin to waddle. yes. i want to note that the concept of school history education is currently being developed, and in the tenth-eleventh grades , the study of a new
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integrated course will be provided, which will be called the history of belarus in the context of world history, respectively, the emphasis will be made on national history. cyril said. the previous part about what needs to be popularized, but returning to the events that took place before the year 20. well, in principle, it seems to me, but the period of the great patriotic war. maybe due to the fact that it is really closer to us and chronologically, and in each of our families, each of us has personal stories. yes, that's why we treat him so unconditionally. this is the most terrible page in our history, but it is, well, much more popular than our other historical periods. this was used in including our opponents, because they raised to the shield that in the period of the grand duchy of the lithuanian empire. well, somewhere less somewhere more, well, it is clear that the economy is what our enemies have made
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politics, while we were engaged in savings comment. uh, you know, youth is that part of society that, historically, tends to be critical of the experience of previous generations with this and these. i think everyone will agree, uh, our so-called interlocutors. yes, uh, well, on the one hand definitely. this is so and so. uh, the youth audience. it is very difficult, because unexpectedly it can lead itself creatively, it can lead itself. here is the evidence. uh, that big and significant event that was initiated and carried out by our president. but the conversation was very important. in my opinion, the main leitmotif of this conversation about all its versatility is the ideology of our society and the place of the history of the ideology of our society, uh, the terms are dialogues, and it, of course, causes an ambiguous reaction, especially among young people, some
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perceive it as the past, but in fact indeed, this is the most important element. e to stabilize any society. i will allow myself to be washed with a quote from our president. ideology is the immune system of society. and it really is. so. let's take an example, let's say. e western democracies, whoever came to power right-left centrists. yes, it changes. uh, taxation increases or vice versa. uh, another direction is some kind of politics, foreign and domestic, but note that none of those who have come to power raises the question in relation to their predecessors, we will destroy to the ground, and then why because there is? the logic that consists of the three main elements of western dialogue is liberalism, which implies itself. ah, individual freedom. let's just say socialism which implies a redistribution of benefits through the mechanism of the state to avoid shocks and conservatism to maintain the foundations.
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and in my opinion, the president emphasized that in our ideology there must necessarily be the preservation of survived, uh, which we have a small problem, because so historically happened. at first we stood on, let's say, so, and in this regard, the conservative, apparently, on one leg, let's say on the left. eh, the great experiment of the ussr ended with the country falling apart on their fragments. the ussr was formed by the republic of belarus, like other states, we perceived our historical heritage through the prism of the soviet heritage. i'll just finish my thought. a new generation of historians is gradually growing, new data, and so on and so forth. we begin to understand that the belarusian history is much older, the shift in emphasis to right side. and how right, says our dear host, this was taken advantage of by the opponents of the authorities, who tried to monopolize this idea and absolutely
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tried, uh, to educate certain heroes who, well, really, like in hollywood they say we can grow this or that, uh, president. eh, i think it's underlined. so, uh, what is our history, it is centuries-old, it is ancient. it includes different periods. middle ages new time, modern time and nothing should be forgotten, nothing should be deleted, because, well, these words, indeed, there were periods. well, move a little. uh, i can only say in the words of our dresses, let's take vladimir korotnovich and wild watering. king stakh who is not a memorable moment, forgetting bypassing those condemned dreams to survive the echo, and our centuries-old history with our bright historical personalities, it was permeated with one leitmotif of one goal, which can be put at the head of our ideology. uh, here, as yanka kupala wrote to famous people he
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knew, and someone called a bear people, this is the main idea, we are belarusians. we are a sovereign nation. we are a sovereign state back. as the president said, there are many disputes about the state form of education, there was not and will be. and everyone should understand this, and belarus, first of all, is statehood. first of all, one should not succumb to those people who, for the sake of their personal interests, offer such things that lead to destruction, but in the modern geopolitical world. this is a mortal danger velma. would like to come back before your agatania. what exactly is the avito war to be the central ears of our lives in our history, because and the food was the food of life to be the tanya of the life of our belarusian people, and you look at the two to observe the first, and the snot we are talking about tragedy no one has so much passion. i to belarus 30% 3 million, and the other is a struggle, the most massive
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struggle was in the hours of another color war of the people. it's just their people. some were underground partisans, some helped the military pollon. i keratized the jews, because you crushed the holocaust only because i didn’t help before, and in this subsidiary it seems to me that we are also, as it were, small and we show a little razmovy and here in the lesson i, for example, wanted more, because they are opponents, it seems that we are hooking over the collar , great member of the war, we put on, or rather the great vaga, although i would be with you the initials of the composition and historians today. here are my colleagues. we work everything for that. kapets, the more memory is buried as much as possible the memory of the loss of the great quiet war, and here is this butt, at the lesson of alexander grigorovich pershaver, shmat refused on the tree of the face and the paternal war about the burying of historical memory, and uh, i’ll say at a time that he himself is like that unfolded. wow, i'm out of ukraine for this
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action. uh, all people's action folk chronicle of the great bureaucratic war. remember, everyone has already published two books. uh, more than 200 spamming people. which ones are passed on about their relatives? what were the partisan joys, army scientists were taken out of germany, they went through the great war communities. and this young generation, i am by no means trying to dispute the importance of studying the great patriotic war. this is the terrible period. i'm just talking about the fact that our opponents take advantage of the fact that one we pay more attention to the period others forget they pull out the facts favorable to them romanticize them sell the youth. naturally with recently our central great in the context of the history of the great patriotic war. we always forget one thing. it seems to me that we always say there are dead, there are people who ended up in a
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concentration camp, there are wounded, but we won, we forget this story. we are the winners that is why wars with us are important for us and one of the reasons why is so important, because here we are a lot and in parliament on different things always emphasize. uh, specialists are scientists who understand the meaning of the great victory . they say, we are winners, and there has never been such a victory and the president said, look at the year 812. where did the first world war come from? how many countries participated, by the way, in 812 they shaved and the student is still a european pain. well, first of all french i hope they know, yes, but forty-first year, well, forty- first twenty-second june 15 states. and so, when we start talking about it, when we show it, we get it, and in response there are more people there. there, the institutions of national memory and the administration of anastasia
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are not caught a little. i'm trying to convey. yes, i understand, uh, that's what you are emphasizing and, in turn, i want to draw your attention to this. so, really, the opponents of the authorities, let's say, tried to focus attention more than once or twice, let's say. that's why you talk so much about this move, the front of the great patriotic war, and exactly the same, as if they sound like leitmotifs, among many of our western neighbors, that it would be time for so many years to pass. it's time to forget the parabolas already to make peace with the fact that it is conditional bits, if you are interested in the period of species, so you are most likely. to the opponents of the authorities e is not due to the fact that a-and this topic is precisely what you oppose, because the state missed it a little yes, yes, we talked about this in the first part. so i said this from my kind of small speech , yes, but i want to emphasize the attention
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again. why is there so much attention to this period of our recent history you know the great patriotic war, e. every nation has its own mentality. this mentality is formed, including under the influence of certain historical events. eh, if you take the period of the great patriotic war. here. e, dear colleague. the historian called the figure more than three million 3 million 70. eh, thousands of people, the united states lost killed and died from wounds. there are 370, probably thousand. and there was such a story in the forty-sixth year, our delegation, belarusian, when the un was formed, we were one of the founders, went to united states of america including, as it were , with people, and here at one of these meetings. they talked about what happened here. what horrors how many villages were burned. i am why i will say one such radical thing, why everything that was said earlier and how it worked well on the topic of the great patriotic war from the point of view of ideology will not work today, because in 1950, the
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seventieth ninetieth year of the great patriotic war. and what happened then was a shock. now you turn on the tv. there the head was torn off, there war. there they are shooting here, the child turned it on, and he himself killed everyone in the computer game. i agree, so we'll wait, i'll finish, i 'll finish my thought in a second. what i'm saying is that if history is to be learned, let's learn from our most recent history of 2020. for the last 15 minutes, i have been trying to convey to you that one, uh, historical period is considered roughly speaking, pro-government another historical period, our opponents have raised to the shield. why did this happen, because one historical less attention was paid to the period and a conditional child who wants to google to find out about the same, vitavto. what source to
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what sources will he most likely come across, will he teach history according to their buildings or we take some kinds of things for ourselves or him forbidden we should all sit on our history on our history the president said all periods, and he is very laid out clearly. yes , wait until the president said. why it wasn't so many oppositions were prepared by history textbooks everything is represented absolutely and in university and ancient history. and the principality of polotsk and the grand duchy, lithuanian and so on. so, with regard to the time that we devote to the study of a particular topic or sections or periods in history, it is also quite balanced. although, for example , we have the entire sixth grade - this is the history of the middle ages, which he studies, for example, from the 10th century, even sorry, from the fifth century to the fifteenth
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year, the seventh grade - this is the story we get when the belarusian lands were part of the commonwealth until the 18th century, but a then the story begins, when the belarusian lands, after the divisions of the commonwealth, became part of the russian empire, the number of hours. it hmm let's say it is quite balanced, but understandable. why do we devote more time to the history of the great patriotic war and a tragic and very heroic period in which we can educate schoolchildren today. but, uh, i’ll probably remember that back in january 2022, at a meeting that was dedicated to. uh historical politics of the belarusian state head of state noted this kind of bias and said that we have topics that require more attention and outlined these substantive lines that are worth paying attention to this list of substantive lines included the polotsk and torov principality politics a teenager
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who is beginning to be interested in period. i will call the conditional class, e he does not receive information from the state, because it is already passed in the sixth grade from the point of view. today we have a concentric principle of constructing the content of the school history education. we study history in the fourth grade at the level of stories about the history of the fifth and ninth grade from ancient times at the beginning of the 21st century at the chronological event level tenth-eleventh grade from ancient times to our time on problems theoretically alain i do not agree with that. that's why because for the time uh? alexander grigoryevich lukashenko restored the minsk castle radzivilov castle in nesvizh litsky castle was. uh, restored polotsk e, the cathedral, there are sapieha streets in minsk in principle. it's all different the question is that politically we really have to protect our history from the fact that they wove something like this out of it. in
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fact, i would actually forbid some radicals to write bad things about sopeyka and euphrosyne in stripes, because now it turns out that whoever does not write about soviet belarus is, in fact, a western agent, this is also bad. sorry for the expression, i completely agree with you. this is a message, in principle, for the state ideology, what the president said, that we have a history. history centuries old. history, interesting is our history. we don't throw anything away. we remember everything, and there is no need to try. we live, in principle, in a foreign information space. there is no need to look for some moments in this alien information space. we need our own cluster in this information space, what we are talking about so that our neighbors do not appropriate what does not belong to them. well, i knew, i would like to return to your meal, because i am flying more confidently, kind for us to the minavidma, which is why it’s not necessary, just look at our assistants, as we say to ourselves. let's take a look yak zab mezhomi and belarus
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says, and if we take a look, then one other neighboring war. there are such 100% pies. these are the voiced states of america in all ukraine, and they say, only different. let us also name strata. i say, hollywood convinces absolutely and all the dates and all the padeis of yana. i’m just going for it, and here and now belarus has opponents only there, because here a small part of belarus is not teasing that it chained our traditions from trends. well the memory of the family memory, i then did not understand anywhere. but she is the teacher of our actions, the police. fly is the very word. soviet politics, she is an ideology, because well, how, how we teach, why, for example, we suddenly began to sharply divide historical heroes into right and left. we shared them until the twentieth year, then something seemed to happen and now we are starting to share them , the president specifically said the speech of the commonwealth. yes, there really was a polishing of the
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belarusians, having moved to the russian empire, it stopped. let's consider the issue of the formation and history of the belarusian nation in within different states. yes, and it is necessary to show objectively, based on the national state interests. uh, those who came to life, they lived and served, uh, and in the one in which they were born, uh, when discussing the library of the union state a few months ago, it was said about two field marshals of the late 18th century, associated with the events of 1.793 -94 years. two people, uh, who were born on our territory, lived on our territory and each served their own fatherland, and therefore the assessment should be objective, not be afraid, because if we don’t say them, igor petrovich , you and i will say for us and under a, our opponents have more financial resources, more opportunities, more people, and yes, when
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alexander lukashenko says that history is always written to please politics. after all , he always says. they were written earlier, so now there is such a political situation around us and in the world in general at that period of history, in my opinion. i will say everything radically. well, there, as a thought, and not the territory of belarus as part of the commonwealth, but bribery. i agree completely and then everything further, what has been said will add up to a puzzle, because one thing is in and another thing is forced, and then all our modern ideology is clearly intertwined, but in the history that we will have. or maybe it's about puzzles, have lunch. i took a look at what was in the twentieth stage, he was in belarus and i’ll fly a tunic, thirty my valuable treason carries them treason. this is subordinate to the case of the fifteenth year. this is, in theory, a pawn of a light
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war, because then the german occupation regime began in belarus. well, and so on. kolya thirty yak can be said about this, because it is often only belarus that these are the right words. these are such a process, not processes - it came to the fact that a more belarusian state banking state, which was announced to be formed or not formed on the territory of our country, because the question is in energy is it good or bad , this is an attempt, but just her should be seen as an attempt. they are like exaltation and are not a matter of symbols. but do n't pretend it didn't happen. maybe that it was not. uh-huh, including, because if we cross it out, a void will form that will simply pick it up. that's all. we turned a blind eye to the banners. here is the magnificence. what conclusions did you draw, in principle, probably, from our discussion. you are somehow silent last. eh, there are minutes there, something to say, so the occasion
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is unconditional. i want to give my opinion. why is so much attention paid to the history of the great patriotic war? well, look here are the people of my generation, because we all grew up with grandparents who went through this terrible war, yes, which not only won, they liberated all of europe, except for that, you know, they are dying. they have already passed away. and if we do not tell our younger generation about this, we will. it will leave the level of life that defended the period of the great patriotic war. we are talking globally as a whole, and approaches to the study of the presentation of history. here is the president. well, as if the master class arranged in an amicable way she herself said a master class for us a master class. such tight deadlines. still tell about the whole history of the country. and it's actually very interesting to look at and admired by the rest of the storage. if the relationship, for example, if we are talking about history, how historians will and work. we are working. we are
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considering these periods. and polotsk of turov, the principality of conducting research work in the archives. uh, scientific conference. and so valentina vasilievna remembered, uh, how the relationship began. uh, bread, uh, peasantry. tomorrow we are holding, for example, a conference of the peasantry in the commonwealth and russian empire. the russian conference is the age. this is for scientists, scientists write so that later alena, in order to later be popularized, there will be no academy, there will be no sciences, there will be no scientists. the archives will not be what we popularize. that's when e cyril would have said about their periodization, we discussed this popularization. this is real work.

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