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the music is ground for a place alexander shpakovsky deputy andrey savinykh. a little later, i had another conversation with political scientist and publicist sergei kurginyan. so, as they say, make yourself comfortable. greetings. well, let's start with the actual. and we see that a new round of tension between armenia and azerbaijan is probably the first question. here they propose to push off from him. why is the peak right now, is it a coincidence? and

most importantly, what can andrey vladimirovich achieve this time, in your opinion, well, first of all, let's talk. so some regional considerations or interests of regional players. e explain this exacerbation is impossible. uh, the thing is, yes, the conflict is the old conflict. uh, let's say lingering. uh, a very low level of trust between azerbaijan and armenia, but armenia, that is, azerbaijan, has already received its victory and additional military victories will bring little benefit. and the costs will be very high. azerbaijan is becoming a part of the transport corridor. north south, e from the north and from the north of russia to the indian ocean, and they he needs stability. eh, azerbaijan is becoming a hub for transporting gas to turkey, respectively, turkey also needs

stability, since it is a transit state and it is interested in the interaction of russia, but of course, russia does not need any conflicts in the caucasus. it turns out that in order to understand the essence of this aggravation. and here, too, it must be said that, of course. both in vorsibajan and in armenia there are war parties, there are certain social groups that earn money in war and need war and here they are in judging by everything, the team of global players, because only a global perspective can explain this conflict, most likely, they went to this aggravation, but i do not see any serious prospects. uh, in the escalating moment here, on the one hand, we have a partnership with azerbaijan, on the other hand, a member of the dcb. uh, and our partner sings to the organization. and armenia, the day before, we saw that armenia, uh, requested a meeting of the collective security council on the collective security council, was on behalf of the president,

our point of view was voiced there in alfovich and the belarusian position was clearly stated, which boils down to the following, we believe that without an alternative peaceful settlement of conflicts between the army and azerbaijan, exclusively politics by diplomatic methods, the situation on which we stand requires a thorough one. here, further behind the axis, he goes there in order to determine on the spot what the situation is and offer a solution pavlovich himself how do you look at what is happening, let's say so. e, the fact is that the position of belarus in this case largely coincides, if not completely, with the position of the organization collective security treaty, so, uh, in principle, uh, the russian federation also adheres to a similar approach, this conflict can only be resolved by politics by diplomatic methods. moreover , i recall that from the point of view, for example, russia and the international community in general, this conflict has already been resolved by on the results of the 2020 war, the so

-called trilateral statement was signed in sochi on november 9, 2020. e, means, e, the parties of which were azerbaijan represented by the president or boor aliyev armenia represented by the prime minister. nikol pashinyan. and the russian federation, as the guarantor of these agreements in the person of president vladimir putin, under this tripartite statement, the parties pledged to take certain steps. naturally, as the losing country had to make a concession, armenia, here, makes certain concessions there, parts concerning, that means, e. hmm , the cessation of the military presence in certain areas of nagorno-karabakh means the unblocking of transport links between the exclave of azerbaijan, the nakhichevan autonomous republic, which in fact, it is located on the territory of armenia, yes. e. well, or rather, not on the territory, but surrounded, let’s say, by armenia and has no direct transport connection with azerbaijan for a long time, well, there are a number of other points and, uh, many of them should have been completed in general before the end of 2020

, but uh, the fact is that in the implementation of tripartite agreements, as well as in the implementation of the minsk agreements at one time on the conflict in ukraine, third countries are constantly interfering, especially the collective west, uh, in my opinion. what are the tactics of the collective west in primarily in the uk and us in the region? uh, their emissaries promise some kind of illusory support to armenia and thus provoke a slowdown in the implementation of the tripartite statement, and, azerbaijan, uh, through its capabilities, including in the turkish republic, i do not speak to the country's leadership, but as andrey vladimirovich, the president of the war party, says, they are pushing for military measures forcing armenia to comply with these agreements, and the state department in this case. they immediately e declare the next us calls on russia use their influence to stop the escalation between armenia and azerbaijan, that is. in general, it looks like an attempt to divert the attention of moscow, they will bring it simply and then immediately my colleagues will give the floor for three

moments. uh, they may not be directly related to the aggravation of the conflict, but we must take them into account in july. uh, it means that cia director william burns paid an unscheduled visit to armenia. so on september 5, armenian defense minister suren went on a return visit to the united states. i mean, september 8.10 there was a special representative of the us state department for the caucasus, philip ritter a, in order to help, well, the official goal of the american side is to help armenia and azerbaijan in a peaceful settlement. it was there that he visited on the eighth, on september 10, the twelfth on the night of 12 to 13, the escalation of hostilities began, which means, and now he went to help already in baku well, that's right, well, i absolutely agree. here especially with the convoy, but let's as they say a little more, paying attention to the trend. eh, you know, really. i agree. here global players create zones. this destabilization is primarily for russia, but not

only for russia, for turkey, which, in fact , is demonstrating more and more. eh, points of understanding and mutual support with the russian federation, but i think that this fits into the global strategy of creation. as many locations as possible? conflicts wherever possible and yes, russia is the first target. why because two main goals have been identified? uh, k. well , relatively speaking, the structures of the collective west, uh, how opportunist countries are first of all, russia and china are, by and large , the main rival, but in order to be drawn into a confrontation with this country , russia must be destabilized as much as possible. and as a result, they create , uh, a whole network. these are the points of destabilization. and we must not miss, without removing, do not leave, do not ignore, transnistria is another point and there is. uh,

russian peacekeepers here is the caucasus. yes, uh, the karabakh conflict and beyond tajikistan uh, where from afghanistan they can be thrown. uh, isis military units that left syria and iraq and here. i would still like to contribute. just a small clarification, we can't talk about the us or the uk, uh, these countries are directed by certain financially corporate groups, which in fact have a supranational character, which would like to enter a new round of neo-globalization, and therefore they need destabilization around the world. they understand that we are on the verge of the whole world is on the verge of a huge financial crisis, and so from my point of view. they headed for the collapse, in general, of the entire system, logically such when we lose everything we must save as much as possible. and if we save more we will win and that's it from here. this

policy is carried out all over the world, listing this network, it is impossible not to mention serbia and the intensity, because just recently the teacher said that serbia is already such a warning, serbia from the steps of pristina. proceeds is facing significant security challenges, more and more present. that is, the special forces of the pristina police in the north, kosovo and mitohi, the danger is close objectively and seriously, that is, here also in the near future we can expect the hottest tension to speak frankly. although this is uh, i don’t want to talk about it, but nevertheless. it is a reality that tension will be created around the republic of belarus , first of all, it is also a fact, and then we can continue this list throughout the rest of the world. uh, it is large enough, meanwhile, in these conditions, we , uh, are not just looking for partnerships, but we also find partnership points of growth. first of all, of course, i mean, now this shanghai cooperation organization,

which opens tomorrow and for us, of course, the most important thing in this is that the procedure for joining belarus to some organization has been launched. this is the most important event. ah, if in simple words to explain to our viewers. why this is fundamentally a very important event pavlovich himself well, let's continue andrei now i will say that, of course, belarus will experience external pressure today. really unprecedented sovereign history, external pressure. and, in principle, always, probably, since 1994, our country has been well, if we are talking about the history of modern belarus, because this historical parallel can be drawn further, that is, our country was the object of claims of external players. this is one of the theaters, so to speak, of the global processor, again due to proximity to the russian federation, including, although there are specific belarusian factors inside, there is also the personal factor of the president. but as far as the shanghai cooperation organization is concerned, well, of course. this is, uh,

the most important event in terms of external politics of our country. this is how we call the turn to the east, which, until recently , was still such a, debatable, but discursive process in our foreign policy, but discussed more and more, takes on the real shape of the sco, the most influential world organization. federation china india naturally, full participation in belarus in this organization seriously enhances the international prestige of our state. and once again disavows means the plans of the opponents of the republic of belarus for the international isolation of our country, that is, participation in the sco. e, clearly indicates that no international isolation will work, but if we assume, and some countries of the collective west refuse to be friends with us, but we have other partners. here we are, in principle, uh, not in the mood for a conflict with western states with our

neighbors. we will simply restructure our foreign policy in such a way that it corresponds to international reality. national interests. you know, i'm even looking at this whole situation a little more. uh, from a global perspective, if the western elites, these financial corporate ones, in principle follow the path of the collapse of the world, the creation of chaos controlled in their own interests, of course, then china and the russian federation and india are trying to pursue a policy of stabilizing the creation of a new world order and one of the strategic the tasks of the sco are to contribute to building a more democratic and fairer world order. it's written down in the organization's charter. and today this organization. e is getting stronger. we can say that today it is 60% of the territory of the russian mainland. this is 50% of the

world's population. and it's somewhere around 30%, uh, of world gdp, about the same as today's gdp, in principle, of the countries of the collective west. this is an attempt to stabilize the situation in the world and translate the world strategy into creating a multipolar more balanced world. this is a very serious step along with the movement. brix we see is simply an attempt to leave from the worst scenario of the development of human civilization bilateral meetings. yes, including a meeting with a child. uh, hmm other meetings. this suggests that once again to reconsider some a questions that are impossible over the phone . decent meetings are needed. and i think that all this will give additional impetus, but we are the republic of belarus. we are in the team of the majority

of the world's population for building a more just world. what else can you say talking about the elite. well, here's one of the hottest news right now. this is, of course, the death of queen elizabeth ii of britain, the accession to the throne of charles, who is now the third corolla and in parallel synchronously , we saw how the prime ministers of great britain changed instead of johnson, did the rhinestone come in many media , including the british, openly called a disaster man, in general, what to prepare for? will england change in our eyes, what to expect from all these changes, well, i'll start with such a symbolic series. well, to be honest, i don't understand. hmm let's just say all these ponederiks in relation to queen elizabeth ii in the media , especially in our allied neighbors. e russian. although i understand that, of course, many representatives of the russian elite, to one degree or another, were connected with

great britain; some of them even had or have a british region. yes, and, probably, in this regard, maybe, uh, here. e, this e is a kind of mourning, and after death or the second we will explain, that's for me personally. i think that for our country this is a completely ordinary event, of course, she, as a monarch, is probably evaluates the life path of a devotee serving the united kingdom. here, over the republic of belarus, this attitude has nothing more, given the policy of britain towards belarus over the past 30 years. basically, we can't. and that means considering yourself in this series of mourners. here. and what about what will happen there now? well, for the sake of saying so, uh, warming up the interest of the audience, let me remind you that madame leaf in her youth adhered to anarchist convictions. we will not condemn her for this, who is not young was a revolutionary, but nevertheless, she

performed. uh, against the monarchy. so she expressed sincere bewilderment, as in general, uh, in the 20th century. here, maybe e exist such a form of state. on the device as a constitutional monarchy, well, now seriously changed her mind. there has been a certain evolution. that's anarchism. uh, democratic party caliber. well, later already e is conservative, where also. eh, views have changed a bit. well, let's say with regard to brexit, then, uh. chamber government period. she was strongly against britain's exit from the eu when teresa may came was in favor but the point is this. uh, the bottom line is that the queen really died. right now there is a lot of king and uh, prime minister or strass, uh, who was elected by a vote of 80,000 people, also an interesting moment, so the us and the uk are anglo-americans. they are trying, uh,

to teach the whole world about democracy. moreover, at least in the states themselves. here is the election of the highest state leadership. hmm does not happen in the form of direct democracy there, uh, let's say in the usa in general only specialists understand yes, yes, and take attention. even the death of great britain did not discourage ordinary britons from wondering if there is extremely low support in their own party, if there is extremely low support in british society , who then chose the sheet i will say, so i read the latest opinion polls. uh, so british e's are happy. well, there is such a wording, only 4% of britons are happy to be elected or stressed. but it's almost like we had such a barika as a presidential candidate, the rating was 3% listraz, approximately these are the ratings of trust and support at the same time. uh, this once again u shows that in the uk a certain rather rigid value-based political framework has been created. so the destabilization of this framework seems to be very difficult. well,

then it also stands behind it. if possible, ignore. here are all of these very diplomatically said, he is the head of the transnational sadness, present us the project of the transnational elite one of the tools. which by changing the world order, or rather, its collapse is to date in the uk well, here, let's add a purely british elite. well, the first thing to say is that, of course, i believe that the british elite is the most well organized, the most experienced of all the national let 's say elites. they are now fighting desperately to ensure that britain has control of their own macro-region, a colossal task, er, and given the amount of their resources, but now, if you take these two figures that you spoke of, i take a slightly different approach. the thing is that in britain there really is a two-loop model of governance

. they do not make strategic decisions, they are told to act on the basis of these positions, and from here, by the way, political preferences also change. it won’t zabreksit, or rather, earlier against today they simply brought the installation, but real centers. uh, decision -making is inside this is, uh, let's say inside the elite group of corporate financial aristocratic er, in britain still. uh, even the concept of the black aristocracy of this land has been preserved, the owners who make decisions away from human eyes and the citizens of britain do not influence these decisions in any way. this is the inner circle. here is karl the third, as well as his, uh, predecessor. they belong, of course, already to this and letaria another question, what about the king? he won't rule best. this

management model is described by the phrase the king has the right to receive information about all e, contradictory difficult and significant moments and have the right. giving advice or recommendations is such a variant of soft power, when meeting completely different people, er, different levels of social responsibility, let's say, in this way he can correct their positions, exerting a strong influence. naturally. no personality. and as a representative of a certain social group, and therefore i can tell you with absolute certainty, all bets have already been made from the appointment of a new monarch to the appointment of a new prime minister. nothing will change at the same time. we observe what is not only along our contour around e, they set fire to the situation. we see that there are processes that are taking place inside developed countries .

uh, heather mail company croft, she regularly measures the level of social instability this time. she generally comes to his comforting conclusion that in the near future we expect a period of social upheaval and boom not only in developing countries, but also in the developed european union, yes. and in this regard, we have already seen what is happening, for example, in paris, uh-huh, how tough gagging those who went out into the street just to indicate that the price level that has been established. it's just not liftable for a large part of the population. it's even just let's watch the video, because we are often offered a video of how the police operate in our space. police. well, pay attention, how the french police act does not look like they respect at this time the right of a person to be indignant at the prices of products. this is what, this is fatigue from bullfighting, multiplied by fatigue from madness, politicians whether this is the same redistribution that concerns everyone and everything, let me comment here, really. the topic is very

interesting. we all now perceive the events in europe as, in general, a conflict in ukraine through the prism of this conflict, but we also forget , yes, the main goal. probably this conflict is to wear down with russia if russia loses, then most likely they will simply destroy it. but there is also a secondary, second goal, the second goal is, in fact, to pump out all the capital from europe resources, including industrial production, to deindustrialize and transfer to somewhere in either the united states of america in britain, perhaps in australia, new zealand, i don’t want to delve into this topic now, since this topic is a separate conversation. well, in principle, here, but, but there is a cree. resources are getting scarcer. and here there is a very interesting statistical data that is not particularly advertised in the west. there, almost up to 50% of the national wealth

is controlled by a maximum of one-three percent of the population, which means that if we take 70% of the population on the other hand, they control eight to ten percent at best. and it turns out that somewhere around thirty percent of the middle class remains. uh, or slightly more prosperous is a medium enterprise. in general, quite prosperous people. uh, people who control about 30, maybe even up to 40% of the national wealth. it is at their expense that the costs of the crisis will be paid, and they have begun to prepare for this, just from covid they began to build a new system of relations of restrictions. no hard dictatorship it turned out to be very massive, and resistance to this and a lot of side effects. in the field of economics. now they are moving

to other tracks. we don’t see it, but now decisions are being made in the netherlands, germany , france, to even attract army units to, uh, calm these uh human riots, and they will be because the middle class, uh, are going to seriously rob western europe. and this is the reality of the social reality of it. period, well, i'll just repeat the idea that i repeatedly brought to broadcasts of various programs. here are all the people who are interested with an inquisitive mind, who are interested in understanding, here is the view of this group, the mandialists who control, in fact, the collective west, on the future of mankind and on how events will develop, including in the countries of the european union, i recommend just reading the work of klaus schwabb , great update. but this is one of the think tanks. eh, let's say this layer. e today. uh, it means, altering, uh,

the world order, that’s exactly what he was talking about, uh, andrey vladimirovich, it’s there everything that has been presented for a long time is described in full. we, including, as means the advantage of europe as its showcase. these are all small family businesses high middle class blue collar and so on highly skilled workers. son , all this will gradually die and be seriously trimmed and corrected. this is all going under the knife, moreover, the processes that have been taking place since 2020 are saying that, uh, that the current crisis is covid, it leads to a further gap between this percentage of the super-rich in the hands of, let's say, who concentrate more and more assets and the rest of the population. e planets. well, even the so-called golden billion. that is, in the future, probably, the golden billion will shrink like shagreen leather somewhere up to

200 million. probably. uh, the countries of the west will be in a more advantageous position, if you save, but the concept that western europe offers here seems to me the sanctions of the world. yes, in a sense, a uh in the most, probably, in the number in the greatest the degree of losers is, of course, the periphery of the european union, that is, there in general e. absolutely terrible events will occur and, uh, not in vain. we can even now see where the highest inflation is and you know. i want to intercept here. there is one very interesting expression - it belongs, in my opinion, even to an english sociologist. i don't remember my last name now. he says that in an era of crisis and the destruction of the old world, either dictators can lead countries. well, to put things in order, either clowns. uh-huh. that's very interesting. yes, the time of dictatorship in western europe, in any case , has not yet come. they it they already fit to

replace johnson. scholz macron, you will definitely have to, until a strong curse comes. uh, the clowns are in control. this is mine again, returning to a topic or passion. no, they divert attention. they create a false agenda, but to the point. they help to carry out these decisions that are already here. we are slowly approaching you. and completely logically. this even follows that another front is open. this fund is called historical memory. this week we are celebrating september 17th. and, well, for a long time this date was like that. well, i wouldn't say lost. she was gathering dust somewhere on a shelf. right now it breathes life, and it is more relevant than ever. why is it relevant today more than ever? where does this request for history come from and for the fact that it is absolutely necessary to win on this historical front . how do you think we have been for a

long time? uh, continued to live in the mainstream soviet internationalist concept of friendship of peoples we, in principle, and now, in my opinion, adhere to this view. e this position here on relations with our neighbors is a national feature of such relations within the country in many ways. yes, that is, a cultural cultural tradition, that is, our chewiness. for many centuries, in the meantime, he was and is at the crossroads of civilization. that is, numerous wars and conflicts took place here. it taught our people certain traditions of tolerance. uh huh meanwhile now continue just for viewers right away. here we are saying that we are so tolerant and, on the other hand, expected the same, but you need to understand that until the thirty-ninth year our territory was in a regime that thought about us like this two quotes. you continue, then the then prime minister of poland leopold is slippery, who assured, then i assure you that in 10 years in poland even with a candle. you will not find a single

belarusian. let's move on, minister of foreign affairs of poland until the thirty-ninth year, jozef, running, we are closing belarusian schools in western belarus and replacing them with polish ones, because belarusians, in general, backward wild people, the belarusian language has lagged behind, bringing little benefit to those who speak it. and whoever learns and spoke on it, there is a run, not in a private conversation. and in an interview with french journalists, the same run that obviously hated belarusians, loved and respected hitler very much, they found such a photo where it is clearly visible that he had deep respect for furet. i wanted to say in a nutshell does not mean, delving into historical, uh, these are the wilds, but jozef ran one of the gravediggers. in fact, the second commonwealth for the simple reason that he was just pursuing a policy about the german position and ignoring all signals, including those coming from e-e illegal immigrants of polish intelligence, there was such a famous, in principle, spy polish yurok he sosnowski who reported on the plans of

germany's aggressive plans for poland and these, uh, certificates were ignored, just on the run and , in fact, that poland fell victim german aggression is largely to blame. here is this e minister. uh, it means that he conducted about hitler's policy and apparently professed that hitler's principles, including in relation to our people, but we bring this with nothing only to make it clear to our people that if the thirty-ninth year had not happened, you would join, then no millions of our people were there to finish, but this tolerance always has its limits unconditionally. here uh. remember, like a classic. i endure, endure, tear off al-raptom, cuckoo. for example poles at one time, the germans managed to bring the belarusian people to a boiling point, and they felt all the grapes of wrath of our people were uprisings, it was actually under the rule of spanish poland and the belarusian, peasant ramada , it was the largest political organization in the history of our country. i don’t know whether white russia has now surpassed this

result in terms of the number of members or not, and we will forget that the belarusian- peasant rabotan ramada and the communist party of western belarus leninist communist western belarus youth union all these organizations existed under the conditions of a totalitarian regime, when membership in them threatened, at least, with prison terms for those people who took the path of resistance. and the national liberation movement, so for us, of course, on september 17, the liberation campaign of the workers 'and peasants' red army, as it was recorded in soviet historiography, is an act of historical justice, and on this day, without offending anyone. so, including without offending our neighbors. we are celebrating national unity day. well, by doing so, we signal to all those forces that are now opposing our country, which dream of bringing our country to its knees again. or, as the president says, the abus in lapti is harnessed, which means to drive in that, and we show that we are one, and when we are one and when we are together, it seems to me that we cannot be broken. andrei vladimirovich here. how do you

look at what happened then and how it resonates with the events of our day? i think that, in essence, this is a continuation of these trends that we have today, e. now there is another break in civilization, a split, just as then now you need to defend your vision of your picture of the world, a picture of the future, and it should be based on values ​​on certain ideas about where we are going and what we live for. this is probably the most important thing, uh, this is the date and the story of how our ancestors fought. for, strictly speaking, self -consciousness, for one's own history, for one's own right to choose the path of one's own cultural development. it's an inspiring moment, inspiring with a story that should give us the strength to do it today.

why because the confrontation in the modern world is of a military nature known to all, it is an economic confrontation. but it is also a psychohistorical opposition. this is a war of meanings. and if we do not own meanings for the sake of which we live, we will not be able to build a sustainable one. uh, let's say a civilizational structure with a distant future. i see this particular holiday as a brick in construction. this is this basis of this worldview and this picture of the future plus today. we see what is happening now in the behavior of the polish regime. i don’t say as a matter of principle now, poland is a polish people there. i am sincere. i hope that here it is necessary to carry out the division of the polish regime from the current polish leadership. ah and, and the poles, what we see we see how they say they are going to this to attract the military budget, that is, there from now until the end of the year until 12:00 to 21 next year, and they

say that this is the strengthening of their national defense, but the equipment that they do not plan to purchase. these are the same haimars. these are abrams tanks. uh, the f-35 aircraft shows that, in general, they are not going to defend themselves, and unfortunately they are not going to. well, in parallel, the statement that is being made to the ministry of defense. i'm not talking about retired generals, like, a squirt, which he promises in 3 days. pass, belarus, this revanchism. um, why are they trying to impose it? how can we intellectually, and why is it being imposed on our own polish population? let's remember that many slavic peoples e do not say so much. uh inside the cultural inside the cultural code is let's say so the poles have imperial ambitions and no doubt dream of greater poland. and the woman of the commonwealth of three e, their problem lies in the fact that they have no resources, no capacity to implement this project and lack wisdom. uh, to be able to rebuild

your own state from, let's say, a land power, uh, into some more international formation that accepts other codes and other cultures. they fail to do this and as a result they become easy prey for global serious players in online games, by the way, who work on another qualitative level, and as a result, poland is now used as consumables, as a counter-project against russia to belarus against the slavic world, when this project is over, the counter-project will simply be thrown into the dustbin of history and it’s very sad that in fact. poland is repeating the same historical mistakes that it made at the beginning of the 20th century, when it was called the hyena of europe when they took part in the munich agreement and uh, took away part of uh, czech territory. this again led to the collapse. poland 's death, in fact, unfortunately, the current

leadership goes the same disastrous way and you are absolutely right. we need to separate, and fundamentally, the polish people. the polish population is from these imperial from these elite government circles, infected with this virus of imperial thinking. i argued a little here. still, i will say that this is the existence of an elite without a certain degree of social support. and it would be extremely difficult. in any case, politicians somewhere are guided by public demand, or it is formed, if she speaks, if we are talking about the so-called western democracy, which, in general, western political scientists themselves call mediacracy, for example, thomas meyer, this is a well-known german specialist. yes, that is, when, in fact, but the information resources belonging to the representatives of the elite, they form a public demand for in any case, which part of the polish people? uh, this kind of

policy is supported. this is obviously the level of domestic chauvinism and nationalism. there is quite high. uh, even this ukrainian migration is many miles long. it gave rise to such a phenomenon as an attack on russian-speaking oni happen practically. uh, posted weekly . it's just, uh, ukrainians, by virtue of their subordinate position, are now in relation to the western world. poland this question. basically, it doesn't lift. here, though in perspective. personally, i predict that with the increase in this asian population, there will be serious interethnic problems, knowing the historical experience of the mutual existence of ukrainian fields, it is negative, but returning to ours. they are including the history of the second commonwealth, even the riga peace treaty, which was signed on belarus but without belarus is a historical injustice. here, in contrast to the seventeenth of september, when there was an act of historical justice, he assumed the national and cultural autonomy of our people as part of pan poland, this agreement was not respected by the poles. this led to an aggressive policy in poland in an attempt to

build such a mini-polish. these wet dreams of poland, maybe, yes, maybe, they always lead to poland's defeat. and during this period of time, after the defeat, the polish people create a unique a work of culture and art, which lies in the fact that they dream of restoring their statehood. here is a real example of a story that literally i heard recently from a man. basically from my constituency. he traveled to poland, uh, it so happened that he flew there on vacation, but that's not the point. and so he said. one thing that struck him was that he talked there, somewhere in some small companies. well, naturally, cafes and so on, and he says if 5 years ago, when i passed, i was forced to communicate with them in broken polish and everyone pretended that they did not know any other language, then today i was very strong. right now i was very much surprised, how sharply ordinary polish citizens remembered the russian language and

how kindly and, uh, kindly. they communicated with me and solved perfectly. it's great because it's parallel. that's what you talked about andrey vladimirovich about the war of meaning in what he himself said pavlovich 's formation. here is this mediacracy matrix trying to immerse the perception of reality in it. we talked about the military, we talked about politicians. they are figures, well, religious people are pulling up. i can’t pass by, i suggest you look so that you don’t think that we are talking about it in voice x he’s with some now, if he wrote it out, that’s all, he’s baroque, although he seems to have escaped, just from belarus he was here, unashamedly blesses the revolution let's take a look here now. hear what you think of armed resistance. i'm becoming a strapping for the ears of ukraine the enormousness of the same catholic church , the skin of the catholic, that with full entreaties the same thing, but at the protest it’s directed the rams, their human wateriness will have to be not only the word

of ole makshima and the forceful method of maximanovad with a broya. so he realizes that he is committing a crime, when in belarus, where orthodox catholics coexist peacefully, despite such xens, there will be peaceful orthodox catholics, he is trying to drive a wedge into this, because. well, if he wasn't to the syndzon, he was ordinary. well, wrestling. yes, no one would listen to his words. why do they pull these meanings, that dmitry even if he were an ordinary barque, but this kind of words they have under them, a certain criminal-legal qualification is called inciting social racial hostility , hatred, discord, and so on, dressed in a spiritual status. and as for the fact that he is clothed with a spiritual status, then the roman catholic church should give an assessment to his words and actions. this means that our state has a certain legal relationship with the roman, catholic costume. there is an apostolic here, who, by the way, was one of the first to present his credentials to the

head of state, respectively, recognizing the existing constitutional system and the order that exists in belarus, those authorities that exist in our country, therefore it seems to me that the respected representatives of our government . here, appropriate appeals should be made to the roman catholic church about the expediency of being in the ranks of the priests. church. here are such, uh, characters like this baroque, so he escaped from republics, belarus, as far as i know it is possible that a criminal case has been opened against this person, if it is not opened, it is immediately necessary. that's because these are not calls for the revolution, i will correct you. these are calls for a civil war in our country, yeah. here, uh. hey, this is where our people live. our relatives and our children live here. here, and not only one borok and such people must be put in their place. in my opinion. uh, with the use of the entire arsenal of the forces and means that states. yes, the damage is now assessed.

literally, there may be 1-2 minutes left, but here is an important conclusion, we see everything that happens to the world. we understand what is happening around, that it will not be easy, that, most likely, after some time we will see a completely new world. and how to see yourself in this new world and understand that we did everything right. we have already talked about this, first of all, we need to invest maximum efforts in creating our own picture of the world with who we are, who we are, who are our friends, where we are going. hey what values we protect and we already see actions in this direction. this is our interaction within the framework of the union state. this is shos. this brix is ​​the integration processes throughout the post-soviet space. we must yes, and we must understand that they will put obstacles against us and seriously

act. those who lose from the change of the old unipolar world order. everything, yes, thank you. it must be said that in 2020 belarus was one of the first to collide. uh, with these actions to destroy the world of order, one of the elements that, of course, is the destruction of russia, uh, their mouthpieces, they talk about it quite openly, that is, the elimination of nuclear potential means, uh, the establishment of puppet power over the sovereignty of national republics, it means control over the resources of the huge resources of the russian federation. these are the goals of belarus, er. so it is a definite stumbling block. on this path, as the only ally of the russian federation to the west of the state borders. if you look at the political map, you will see that this project with of the innovation cordon around russia or the jazz chain , they call it differently without

belarus, it is, let's say, flawed and incomplete, so, in this regard, we defended our sovereignty, defended our geopolitical choice 2 years ago. our task is to continue this course to build our place in the sane world and to stand on the side of those who do not want to collapse. and creation. i think we do it for sure. there will be numerous difficulties on this path, much will depend on us, on the capabilities of our managers, on their competencies. it's theirs devotion. let's say, from uh, the initiatives that we will take in different directions, because vt export flows are being reorganized. and, of course, it is more difficult to work in the countries of the distant arc than in the markets familiar to us. but this must be done if we want to survive as a country and as a state. thank you, thanks, andrey sulinykh and alexander shpakovsky were with us. i thank you for your opinion, which was voiced in this program, we continue and the well-known russian political scientist and publicist leader is in touch with us.

movement essence of time sergey kurginyan a sergey ivanovich hello as always, we are very glad to communicate with you. hello mutually sergei ivanovich and why zaporizhzhya npp what are the political tasks? and who decides in the first place, because frankly, nuclear catastrophes are flirting with? come on, when you do ukraine, it's understandable. and we are gt when i arrived and everyone understands this, if they are a little sick, this does not mean that they do not understand everything. if they don’t see it, then it strikes and will strike, because it is a means nuclear blackmail. as soon as it is impossible to win in the usual way, the unusual ones start to run, and what happened in kharkov is also an unusual way. yes, we need to understand this, we will analyze it. what exactly, but unusual. yes, this is not an evolutionary movement of the existing interactions of expressed forces. this is something completely different. so they will use all all crooked methods and here the advantage is on

their side, because within the framework of this reality there is a pro-western elite of ours that is so connected with this west and absolutely not going to break it. yes, we have all kinds. uh, heavy emotions, sympathize. why are such and such wives going through, right? well, of course, there is one way, but to react to these experiences when your wife has wiped the last hair. yes, but it is possible, since his vissarionovich and his wife nadia yes, it is possible in different ways. i do not call for extreme measures. yes, but in the face of an existential threat to me, these squints, so to speak, are tired of casting, i personally, as a citizen of russia of pensioners. yes to private i'm tired and to be heard, what's tired and not just me. because the situation is too

serious, you understand, because it is clear that the loss is not the troops, not the troops. yes , you understand the loss of the strategy, and this strategy must be changed cautiously, but until the end , otherwise we are talking about the end of the russian federation and not about what agreement will be achieved in a few months. and how someone will live in chocolate again, don't circle around chocolate anymore. that's it, the chocolate era is over. and this is all fire and say there are various election events. in the spirit satisfaction. being.is over. this is reality and the layman is not such a fool. well, besides the threat of nuclear contamination, the west is now quite obviously planting such moral toxicity, spinning the russophobia of the belarusians , we see how the baltic regime is

trying in this direction. how far can they go? as you wish. as you like, and here everything will depend on us, firstly, well , please explain to me, well , something will happen . yes, it will not be, well, suppose will happen. and that america is bad? i do not understand, well, that's it, the time is an illusion that america does not want anything as good for europe as america wants to choke europe to hell. even the democrats don't like her very much, and how much the republicans don't like her, and i won't even describe it, which means they are ready for all this first and second. russophobia, everything else is connected with the fact that they wanted quietly quietly to stifle everything. yes, in order to degrade

, degrade the soul, but it will swell, but you understand, the defeated power in the cold war, it begins to swell, then they say to score, the bastard to the end to finish off these people . everything, this is slavic cattle. crush him to hell, because otherwise we will not show that we are in power. they are preparing a fight with china for which it is necessary to defeat everything here in russia and finally scare everyone knows. well, the bastards have seen who wants against us they have huge goals, they are weakening and the economy is not the same as it was even in the seventies. yes, all this is slowly fading away, but not as fast as our anti-americans howl. yes, more is enough powder flasks in order to put weapons and much more. them. it is necessary here to achieve the elimination of the holiday of collective disobedience. yes, and so pinch it so that everyone remembers for 20 years

that it is impossible to rebel against the yankees. yes, rome is alive rome defeated, mithridates rome did this and that, these goals, and i assure you, they are very predatory people. as for whether glamorous patriots and patriots are capable of this in our country , they will say how it is impossible to touch the order, and they look at the european ones. uh, men and women, they say, don't wash your face, but bastards wipe with wet towels, because it is necessary to defeat putin. they reign with their population in this sense, as we do with ours , yes, and this is it. uh, the aggregate western lord is more than that lord. well, it's not bad at all to reduce the standard of living of this western citizen, well, the party will change. something means in this sense, well, this level will change down very well , the industry will be more profitable. you won't

have to pay for this. unfortunate french women and all, big money for uh small working hours will plow like dad carlo and get as much as we tell them. i assure you, it's all on the agenda. it's not artistic fiction of mine or, uh, artistic what i'm hearing. i hear. it 's every day, right? as he says, the fact that i am in aleksandrovsky does not mean anything, i sit high, i look far away. yes, uh, a few days before the queen of great britain , mikhail gorbachev left this world. hmm , it is symbolic that the person whose name is associated with the collapse of the ussr left in the year of the centenary of its creation, a controversial figure. you were familiar with gorbachev. personally. yes, from the point view of history. what assessment will be fair all the same in relation to this politician. if russia is then a fair assessment - this is what was said somewhere.

yes, and these are people who did not recognize. they sla not the disgrace of local deeds and beyond the virgel, he says, their memory on earth is indistinguishable from them, and judgment and mercy departed. they are not worth words, take a look and past. he was a talented person with huge potentials, bright, yes, who decided to sit on world time at the world profilaks table, who lost everything to hell, dog at this world table and decided, that the place of such a destroyer of the ussr would give him some positions in the west, and this was the first person who was converted by the authorities of his vast country into a nobel prize. he was the first swallow of this shame of the national elites yes, and he remained with him, for he symbolizes. he is the man of this loss. he is a man of this ambiguity. and in this sense, the attitude towards him is appropriate, he was a

bright person. yes, smart is not at all weak-willed. yes and at the same time with all the man who is stigmatized as a traitor. yes judas was a faithful disciple christ or something else, but this does not mean that he entered as such, and mikhail sergeyevich will enter as secretary general and president. he will go down in history as the one who betrayed everything and let everyone who thinks. isn’t this a good example to understand two things: the first one to sell, the fatherland can be done once, yes, it was hefty and the price was not too high , you had to have pizza, then advertise and so on, but this feint doesn’t work with your ears next time. this time and the second is the concept of shame. there is a stigma of silence that

worse than any curse. that's what i finally have a couple of thoughts about why september 17 is a holiday of the day of the past, and the future was mentally pushed by a recent conversation of schoolchildren's parents they say. and why, given the already high load on children, oblige them to also attend an elective on the history of the great patriotic war. well, firstly, i completely agree about the excessive load, because it is important that they not only teach, but understand, if, of course, we want to raise a thinking person, and not robots, but at the same time i definitely don’t think that it’s worth pushing at the expense of memory about the main thing. why because this coordinate system? who are we, where are we going? how we ended up here and now and from this to form destinations. pay attention to form they either copy may 9 july 3 september 17 three key. state dates are still important christian codes, but this is already for the

advanced. so the right priorities for us happily. the updated concept of national security was discussed today, the head of state heard the report of the secretary of state at the president's of the security council of alexander volfovich, the concept has been updated by almost 70 percent. the head of state demands that this document be made absolutely frank. at what level are we today in preparing a new edition of the concept of national security, while i would ask before we consider it by the security council that it be absolutely. you don't have to

hide anything. um, well, based on some political motives or even economic and so on. we must honestly, and prescribe, uh, those threat risks that exist and our reaction to them, so that neighbors and others know how we will react, so that they tell me that for someone it was a surprise. you don't have to hide anything, you have to do everything. honestly at the meeting. we also discussed the situation on the southern border and instructed the security council of the ministry of defense and all law enforcement agencies to assess it taking into account the experience gained since the start of the military operation. in ukraine, the head of state. he also instructed to plan in his work schedule an event on state defense issues on the basis of the relevant ministry of autumn the parliamentary session opens earlier than usual, the introduction of new norms into practice is associated with an updated version of the country's basic law. now about

parliamentarians. instead of two, there will be one session a year, today there are about a dozen bills on the agenda. among them are issues of labor relations, the provision of housing and communal services and innovations in the tax code. today, the deputies supported in the first reading a bill that expands the social guarantees of workers by this project, which will be considered today. first reading very important issues are being resolved - issues that were voiced at the dialogue platforms with our citizens. but the first is dispensary and everyone has heard about it. that is, we must interest not only the employee, but also the employer, so that the person working can undergo a preventive medical examination. let's just say the approach will be differentiated depending on age , one or two paid days will be provided for a person to go through discomfort. this is a very legislative portfolio and papers on deepening cooperation with the countries of the allied five, with regard to important political laws, the parliamentarians.