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program by scripts today our guest is alla smolyak, now it is the republic of the national assembly of belarus and archpriest pavel serdyuk, chairman of the synodal department of the belarusian orthodox church on family protection of motherhood. good evening. good evening, we will have a week in minsk slavic family forum. let's talk and start our conversation with this event, what will this event represent itself in general, what is it for now? yes , this is an initiative that was shown by the charitable foundation, pokrov is supported by the patriarchal exarch and the synod of the belarusian orthodox church, and is also supported by the state authorities of the ministry of labor and social protection. as far as i know it performs. e. the state is co-organized by the ministry of health , but actually, i think that the main motive

uh, this is a search for revealing the meaning we need today about some familiar uh, things and phenomena of our life, which we considered unshakable and stable. yes, uh, rephrase. yes, what is a family, yes, and in fact we see a crisis phenomenon in the sphere of culture in the sphere of our everyday life, our society is also disturbing by these trends. ah. i would say tragically prone, and therefore this forum is called upon, uh, to re-focus the attention of society. yes. the first time will pass such a form. yes, the first time as far as i know it's pretty big. yes, the national library will be held and there will be a grand opening plenary. uh, plenary session serious speakers. the international format will then have several panel discussions, such thematic discussions. well , in general, this is a serious, serious form of

alexander, as far as it is relevant, here is the protection of family values, do belarusians and belarusians really need their protection. now you know the family is the most. the main thing that is man is born in the family and the family is small church. yes, we call it that because , well, it's like a temple. uh, family values, family traditions. every person has e laid from childhood and every person born in a full-fledged family. he forms his attitude, then already in the process of his life and e to his family and friends and to society, but also to his country and, of course, family - this is the main thing that if a person after all, when a person is brought up, and in his parents in his state and when a person becomes an adult teenager. he understands that always a support and where you can return. it is, of course, a family. do these very family values ​​need some kind of

protection now, are we exaggerating now, no, we are not exaggerating at all. here uh, but i think that we do not exaggerate, on the contrary. we return to that kind brushes. and uh, every time to say that the family is the union of a man and a woman, and uh, today we have fixed it at the legislative level. this is that a family is a man and a woman, having created a family, they give birth to children, a unit of society. and this cell continues, uh, live to develop here, well, on the good of his side for the good of his homeland and his own family. otherwise, yes, and we do not exaggerate at all. we must show our children that the family is being formed, as the main institution in which there is a father, mother, i call it a family. in general , there may be from a parishioner. mi, as far as the family, now the slavs have not lost so much. these are the very values, the very traditions. well , you must admit that in europe such

an aggressive other agenda and other values ​​are being imposed. i understand that today in such media discourse. e, very so let's say it is customary to simplify many things. here we are contrasting europe, but if we turn to our historical past. and in general, what shaped our uh our state, then we are also europe yes and here is the question the question of the slavs. yes, if we, uh, look at our recent historical background. yes, this is still an anti-regional struggle, which was quite successfully carried out. actually. today we are trying, as a society, to return again, not only to the traditions that preserved myself to say that, in my humble opinion, those traditional values ​​are valuable to us today, that is, we can go with them into the future continues. if it is relevant therefore, therefore uh, here uh, our society is solving

a very difficult task. and actually. we can say the entire east slavic world. eh, because. well, there is, er, there is such one position of such simplification, well, relatively speaking, then we all know that, we play role-playing games. yes, there is a patriarchal way of life. uh, what else is there? what is usually scary? feminists a mother of many children, but no kitchen, a mother of many children is wonderful. here is the kitchen. this is wonderful where it is good. yes, but uh, very often it is presented as such an outdated outdated model. the fact is that today society e does not provide e to a person, as if here are models of his formation of life and life strategies today a person makes this choice voluntarily and uh, he makes this choice and hmm uh our success of our society is what the state supports traditional model. uh, people's life strategies. that is

it is a family, like a union - men and women. this openness is somewhere birth. uh, this is uh. acceptance of the idea that everyone in a family can have three more children. the fact is that in traditional societies, families with four to five six children are medium-sized families. these are not large families, but for parents for us there are already three births of a third child. and this is already obtaining the status of having many children. yes, and in this regard, of course. e. well, here, this is a very e and dramatic historical moment in the life of our society, along with so many hopes. eh, we still rely on this, yes, and well, just at least, because on the leading media platforms. eh, belarus, we are talking about this, so e is focused, yes, the focus is on families, so today i wanted to say that the eastern slavs are not that, uh, they have

a chance, these values ​​​​are being introduced into the thread. well, at the same time, such open information is now . young people see a lot of space and read a lot. naturally. this is probably projected to some extent on our society. one of the big problems of this kind is the problem of divorce today. and how can we do this, we can resist and it is necessary, or, again, the same civil marriage. yes, without painting, without a wedding. after all, it is quite popular, young people. and what is this margin of safety we have? what can be done? again, this gives the family, uh, you know, when uh was formed, here, uh, a person, for example me, i understood that i wanted to get married. i want to give birth to a child, to educate the child. well, everything else, uh, the usual life strategy. it was passed down from generation to generation from grandparents to my parents. parents gave me also and we should not it, he went, and it went to kindergarten. yes, a boy is a girl. these are familiar

things for us, and we should not get hung up on this at all, but the youth should resist. right now open space reads to resist. nothing needs to be shown. by your example that there are full-fledged families, there are full-fledged, uh, marriages that didn’t think about it at all, you understand, resisting means blocking some kind of damper, well, we artificially create this damper ourselves, it should be traditionally, the family is the foundation that is being built from childhood, because traditionally girls play with dolls, and boys play with cars, and it is natural that only boys and girls can be married. well , to resist divorce, of course, the state is doing everything and will do it. i am confident in order to create comfortable conditions. and they are created in the country. look how many blessings we have today so that our families do not fall apart, but nevertheless divorces are quite large. well, because our requests have now grown up, you know, we are here

we look there somewhere, yes, but they live better there, but analyze, uh, mom's vacation is up to three years. moreover, the mother sits at home, takes the child to the garden, well, i think that this is wrong. if you are on maternity leave, you must look after your child. well, then they say that there are not enough kindergartens and so on, if you went to work before the age of 3. well, yes, then it can be true, but i think that the state will look into this further, it still needs to be sorted out. why is mom being on maternity leave? uh, taking the kid to daycare? yeah but uh family, uh dad there is a dad helping assistant and now for good reason. we celebrated father's day. yes e father's day. well, in my opinion. this, of course, is true. we have been celebrating international women's day for a long time. yes, father's day is somehow still here, uh, and the head of state looked at it and decided that there would also be father's day for our society. that's it father's day , his only emphasized role. well, i

think that we generally need to somehow bring out a man. e, some, yes, some from the shadows, because we have, er, well, simply. we have a society it is very feminine. it is noticeable even on the street in public transport in public places. yes, we hear loud female voices. come on, men, unfortunately, they keep quiet like that, yes, and this and that. well, not uncommon. yes, i don’t want to say anything. eh, as if i don’t want to arrange such a competition, yes, this kind of sexual struggle. no, of course not, but there is a fact, because this is not about the articulation of the male position. yes, it also leads to the problem that you voiced regarding divorces. yes, i would like to clarify a bit. yes , civil marriage. this is a marriage, yes, but there is cohabitation. ah, the kind of moment you want to go back to all the time. we are in a state of transformation here. there we need to rebuild our tradition. yes, if

you want, rebuild your own nif, yes, the general national one and this is such a lot of work. eh, the complex of so many people and scientists, eh, and those who are here on keeps on the pulse. yes, the society yes, in their daily work, because, uh, earlier, an important factor in strengthening the family. it there was an economic factor - more family, more successful housekeeping housekeeping. yes, now it is easier to live alone, especially in urban conditions in the capital of cities. everyone makes a career to earn money. quite right. and this is uh, for example. uh, well, the employer is far away, not always. uh, ready to make commitments to uh employee who can quickly slip away on maternity leave. just in front of parents with many children. yes, that is, there are a lot of such moments here, but first

of all. eh, i totally agree. and with the fact that everything is born in the family, that is, those models that are in the family. uh, they will be formed and broadcast to children. children, we studied the school audience and the rigid reproductive attitudes were already formed in the sixth grade for having one child. and it doesn't come from society. and from families. yeah , but uh, again, i want some. you know what is called to return the ball to your side. yes, because you are asking a question. well why , but what to do? i want to ask your face. a question for all our medics. yes, why need to be done in the media field, because the media field. this field is the formation of meanings, including models of behavior. yes, this is advertising, this is what tv shows tell us about. this is what forms the behavior model from the screen tells and of course, of course, this is a very important point. e creation of these

models of translation of e into the public consciousness. yes, if e is the image of a family of a classic family. of a traditional family, it will uh look attractive, uh, and so delicious, yes, like the multimillion-dollar views of modern bloggers on tiktok. yes, that is, this is the form of presentation and content, it can be ancient, but the form can be perfect. yes, this is a difficult task. yes, therefore, the state. i believe we are because. i myself am a father of many children. oh, and our large family. we receive grants or very many pleasant ones, and i would say such supportive state programs. this is the same story , there is another side. agree that we have not dealt with cases with cases when a lot of children are not entirely prosperous families appears precisely from those very grandees and some kind of opportunities, isn’t it, of course, they receive support, they use help,

but i would not like to say about that. you know, e. the most important thing here is for women, don't miss it. people's age, when you can give birth to a child, many women already, when they pass into middle age, then they are very sorry about it. uh, you know, uh, making a career, uh, and social success. you forget that family values ​​are after all the birth of children and it is very important for our state today that we children were born, and today we see that it is already fashionable to give birth to a third fourth child, so it is important for women to think that if you give birth before forty, because the state creates everything so that our children grow up. e, a full-fledged family, enjoyed benefits from the state. after all , look at three children today - this is already four large families. uh, already getting housing, yes with a small one. er, that means percentage. eh, this

is an opportunity. uh, it means to live without renting a house, to bring up your children, to take them to school. kindergarten is all provided by the state all preferences, just give birth to our belarusians, the more there are, the happier we will be in old age, and us, as they say, too. we are also someone's children, who are now continuing the work of their parents. yes , we earn them a pension, and we need to give birth , but before the age of 40, it is absolutely necessary to give birth, because after 40, many women regret that they did not. and now, let the viewers think about it. uh, whoever has one or two children, still needs to give birth to have three or four. i now have two children and i regret it very much that i did not give birth. here's another two. i can’t help but ask, i can’t help but touch on the topic of abortion, but in church life

this is a terrible sin, along with the fact that when they tried to pass the law in the street in poland, thousands of people came out to protest, as in this situation. how correct is your opinion? well, you know. uh, it's not just a sin in some church fence. eh, every woman who has had this personal drama here in her life. yes, she she lives with it all her life. that is, it is possible. yes? is, actually in the list of diseases. uh, no organization, there are storage roads post-abortion syndrome, yes, and it manifests itself hmm in different ways. but what you're talking about is this social action. uh, polish women, uh yes, let's say that. so the last. uh, this is the last event. yes, but in poland abortion is prohibited. it has been in existence for 20 years. this is how we are as a society, right? before that, the law is still, well, grow and grow. just in this case, i studied this situation a little, uh, the radical

right-wing party of the polish sejm. yes , we decided to warm up on this topic, so to speak. uh, well, warm up interest in yourself, yes, and increase their supporters, since the positions of the roman catholic church in poland are quite strong. this is the older generation, that is, and accordingly, it caused, of course, this is what polish society has achieved. here, 20 years ago, yes, it could have been crossed out by this such stupid one. uh hmm well i would say such a shocking, uh, and selfish political initiative. it doesn't solve anything. in fact , bans do not solve. e. well, i agree here. uh, with father pavel in the sense that there are indications according to which women cannot even what they discuss is discussed, but well, it should be here. i don’t judge for or against the choice, at least, because

, as they say, do not judge, we will not be judged, every person will be and has the right to what he has chosen. well, uh, there are all sorts of situations in life, and so far we have not really reached such a bill and for the adoption of a law in order to ban abortions. eh, all other means. eh, so that, let's say, a child is not born. here children should be born , and if health permits. hey, of course we should give birth to little belarusians. well , let me make a little more comment. i want to thank you for what is possible, uh, this word, this topic was raised for the first time by you because during the uh, well, quite a long period of your ministry. i remember that any attempt. well, some intelligible calm discussion. just interrupted. well, like this, uh, of course, of course, we can look there anywhere on wikipedia and

, for example, compare the territory of the island of great britain, it is not much. uh, the total area of ​​this island exceeds the total area, e of the territory of the republic of belarus but 60 million people live on this island, and less than ten people live in our country. and here's the question , you know, well, i just want this question. he is here, let him hang, yes, what did we think, what is it and is there really everyone sitting on each other's heads there. no, yes, that is, we have living space for our people. it is sufficient, there is no will to live. here and with this. uh, when annually 23.000. e baby. yes, 23,000 potential citizens of the republic of belarus are registered annually. yeah, then uh, well, here is this topic at least necessary. know they it's unpleasant to say this is a rather painful topic. yes, and here the question is not

that here the church is ready to stigmatize. we already as an example. uh, after all, uh the right to life is the first pilot project with uh, the ministry of health, together with the belarusian orthodox church and public organizations before abortion counseling. yes, it was carried out here 10 years ago, and it gave its good result, and now it is already pre- abortion psychological counseling, this is general. this is the norm. the norm is legislative anchored, which is, uh, these are the steps that need to be taken. yes, because because you have to choose life. as the lord says in the old. covenant, save life, and they will live. you and your offspring. yes, that is, here we are, i am well aware that my life, it is final in this world. here and at the same time. uh, i would like, yes, that's it, well, some consolation places, right? and children they give this consolation? yes, you can see how they are. uh, looking at

them we uh, even older we see how they enter uh the world is renewed for us, you know, this is very this is very important. very deep , absolutely. i would say mystical moment. uh, that's our being. yes, and that's why it 's not. uh, what is called painful? we'll have to part, yes, with everything yes, which is the beauty of this world, therefore, uh, a video from continuing oneself in this world, seeing their hopes and accomplishments. yes, yes, the institution of the family, the preservation of marriage, of course, does not lead to divorce. and, of course, that there were children there, so that there would be as many children as possible? of course we are, only for the fact that there are large families, and, uh, we need pawn. it's all foundation. e in the family from the very beginning should be people who marry. this is a man woman, which must create several times it is a man and a woman.

well, because here in belarus in general, well, there is no such thing, yes, and in belarus it’s not one, a parent, two parents, one parent, two, it doesn’t know what gender, you know, well, more indignation here resentment indignation, when you meet e, that's it. well, at least, uh, we have a healthy society. i'm sure of it here we are now talking a lot about large families about the need to have children. in general, whether the relationship between parents and children has changed, it is clear that the generational conflict is such an eternal topic that you read the classics. yes compare with what happens in your family, the topic is really eternal, but do parents remain the same. for children, the authority they used to be is the most important thing - to tell the child that you love him? woke up in the morning. i love you, i met a child from school, or from university. i love you and says, and here i am

decided that i was not a boy, but a girl. well, you know what uh? well, my children are so not no. well, we are talking, in general, we are, in general, talking, therefore, well, i think that i am not a boy, but a girl is good. what do you think it is necessary to talk about if i love you? yes, i still love you. let's talk about what's wrong, what's wrong we did, what's wrong. why are you doing this? well, we need to talk. well, and then now there are a lot of very specialists. uh, maybe work with a psychologist. well, i’m not talking about psychiatrists anymore, but i’m talking to a psychologist, because well, i watched a movie and realized that you love vasya and vasya loves you, and you are a boy. well it's wrong to first just about that with the information space. uh, kids have to trust their parents. whoever goes to the family and father pavel says correctly, only the family should lay down, that very true present, which will not lead to the fact that

your daughter loves a girl or your son loves a boy. do you understand? we did n't have that at all. well, it is possible that in the soviet union it was not customary to speak. yes, somewhere someone loved someone, but it was not customary to speak. well look what horror is happening. which at the beginning of the program they said yes in europe. eh, look. what a horror what they are doing, uh, two men take a little girl to raise, yes, uh, and bring her up. what values ​​can they lay in their family, how do they call a family, and what kind of a full-fledged girl can it be, of course, she will have deviations, but she wants to marry a girl there, how they get married or get married. and this is all from the family , you understand, this is an example and this coupon should be uh, men. women - it's even in general with us it seems to me, well, this is less funny vera said this, but let's summarize our program. and maybe i can’t say that

parting words, but what is the secret, and what is the secret of a strong family , what is the secret of such strong family relationships with children so that none of these external factors that viktorov was talking about could destroy this very the traditional slavic family, of course. loyalty is certainly loyalty, and human beings tend to err. maybe, uh, let's just say make mistakes and sin, but uh, the road will be mastered by the one who walks with us in the belarusian society as a whole. yes, the family is in the value scale. yes is in third place after safety and well-being. so if we look at the available statistics, then, er, after all, such serial monogamy, yes, that is, now belstat. there is already an average age of remarriage. yes, but nevertheless, not even when it doesn’t work out, yes, in the first marriage, people strive to create.

that's exactly this model, yes again and it 's clear that remarriages are well more labor is more than compromises. it's a kind of maturity. yes, we now have a time of, uh, very hard work. yes, the whole society. you just need to reach the finish line, you know, if we start, yes, then life does not go out of the way. it may unfold in different ways, yes, but uh, for a believer, for a christian, his faith is undoubtedly a very big foundation. thank you very much for a very interesting dialogue. and i hope that indeed in belarus we will be able to preserve that same traditional family. thanks