well, it’s the same everywhere, if something in one of the segments works in ukraine, then it will work in belarus, you know, the adequacy and education of certain people should not be perceived as a weakness and you understand sometimes, uh, break or do? something through some step is dangerous. here's the fallacy wrong. stumble, you will be, you will be ruined. i bundles somewhere to take out a hot red-hot cup. she may not eat , so you understand you can’t rush into such processes. well, you can't be left behind. we've seen that somewhere here we are in the twentieth year on the internet. uh, certain processes were missed. we stayed a little we started here so to speak. and our competitors get ahead and create problems for us, but uh, look, that's how it is in education. this is a conservative area. all reforms. it is necessary to carry out thoughtfully, and in terms of media right? the president says many have now paid attention to the internet, but our television channels, if in terms of objectivity in working with

facts, not with fakes, but with facts, we are ahead of most european ones. it really. it's real, but the weekend took the channel to the pits. omon brand new - turned off and that's it. you know we have a problem. what do you understand, uh, there are deliveries, because it is called boiled. do you understand? we have no control over the platforms. that's the thing, the main problem is releasing the best broadcasts. and if he gains good visibility of his bath, that is, not ed, everything turns out to be non-competitive, this is all a lie about free mass media, organic does not agree with you and recently. uh, the most famous russian polytechnologist evgeny mishchenko, therefore, said about the occasion that we live in an era when forms and verse are more important than facts and said, is he talking about alexei arrestovich, do you check or go? well, you don’t need to glorify, in fact, for e, every time they talked about what belarus is chicken. he says to eat here with

iodine, they also spoke last week. he says i'd be willing to lead. we have something similar. that's all, or we have a structure called a little differently; it acts a little differently. well what is it? well, here, i listened to you with belarusian calmness. the belarusian mentality is calmly normal. uh, in the information counteraction of information wars, there is a concept, the target audience of the impact, the target audience of the belarusian one is ukrainian, it is completely different russian content is the third, respectively, with each target audience and in the belarusian one, too, the youth environment is an older environment. everything works at its own levels, as for, if there is something similar in belarus, it is concentrated in the field of protection of defense - this is our counter-propaganda. protection is, accordingly, there is a certain subdivision in the information and technical sphere, and the president here very clearly identified our mental

problem, we need to work actively , including on the other side. what is protection? protection is always a loss. unfortunately, well, on that file. we are catching up with the best defense against offense. we are catching up with the accusations against us and we will think over a week how this association will leave, and we will unwind information for a week. they've already moved on to another thread. they are doing other things. look , there are such well-established terms among journalists. yes, like tips ukrainian or olginsky trolls, who sit somewhere near st. petersburg and reflect or, for example, we don’t have such an attack , or we really do. this is some kind of secret organization that we simply don’t talk about, or we really perform this very function as journalists, but it seems to me that the ministry of defense still has some secrets. you just ca n't tell right now. uh, i wanted to say that we are uh today. well, i don’t know what kind of secrets we are operating on today. we perform this function, which must be performed in terms of informational

psychological technical protection. the 20th year showed what the most, say, so strong structure of the power bloc was, on which , in principle, everything in these facts and events relied on the power bloc, who turned out to be a monolithic power bloc, including the armed forces. there are also units that are bald, it turns out that they defended themselves , we stand firmly. no, it's all good. the rest, who will protect? there is a suitable remedy for this, when we can to limit traffic to some extent to slightly reduce the possibilities in terms of using the internet is one thing, but there are forces of special psychological operations. and in general in the world. this is now a trend not to be shared by the press here to welcome. you will obey the entire minister, and he will punish you if there are fakes here. if you don’t prove here that you are responsible for this word, but we must have special organizations that we will not name, which will

create problems there. that's right , comrade colonel, when she is even such a concept, when you create a problem for the enemy, he has next to you. the journalist laughs, you understand? that 's why i want to say what is what from this. here. uh, a smile really, because, first of all, the intonation is very familiar so it's so nice to hear, eh. well, well, here they must be, who are they? wait they do. here's the full colonel. he solves his problems. he has a whole division, and he clearly outlined the area that he closes the rest of the colonel. what you do with belarusian topics is military. i do not want this heard this program. ah here is, and andrei indeed hmm last week. uh at several events and meeting with the secretary of state. and now at a meeting with journalists. the head of state repeated

that we do not need fakes, although objectively. well, on the same internet, it is most actively dispersed and, uh, chewed by the audience, just the same. well, the blatant lie quotes, the more it is, it quickly perceives once again becomes the truth. yes, it does not become in connection with this, a question arose. how will the work of belarusian propagandists change, because that on the other side they said that, yeah, lukashenka is lying with ethyl, so before that , the smart lukashenka forbade him to lie. so before that they lied. maybe they didn’t lie before either, but then they thought, did lukashenka forbid us to lie? what kind of logic does not exist for them, andrei look at this story with mobilization. yes. uh, we will have mobilization. the president started a conversation with you that we will not have it. yes? well, this story was thrown in. she's like this twirled something believed. yes, and a question. this is the very question. what

what to do with it? well, well, nothing can be done about it, except to clearly stand firmly on its own and repeat it will not. the president said she wouldn't trust her president and so on and so forth. this question is primarily in the information sphere in the information war. there are laws. there are principles. this is science. excuse the concept of science to show that uh, clearly tired information americans call this behavior change. e, in the russian federation is called e, influence on decision-making, and so on and so forth. eh, for this you need to dose a lot. uh, let's say false information and the proportion of verified information that we are seeing today in ukraine in ukraine yes, they said very correctly. lies lies lies first listened to. we took three four and listened to her, what is happening today, even the western media do not rely on the

ukrainian media do not rely. all serious analysts today operate with the facts of serious news agencies, even on my mobile phone only these agencies are present, for example, ria novosti squirrel xinhua french news, central further e fox news serious verified sources. look at the new york times here. so washington post, these are serious sources, serious ideology. see. and now look, when information is presented in this way, at least four people who know about the condition of the leader of iran tell us that he is dying, all this that he writes, as you say, very respected very seriously and with deep historical roots and buildings, how information hygiene reacts to this information education. serious people

will not react to this, serious people. these are the analysts, these are the decision makers. everything else. unfortunately, it falls under the influence of who these infa are, who this information is being thought about, who is this sea sea sea sea sea of ​​\u200b\u200bvarious telegram channels. everything else boys girls 20 dash 30. year old guys don't think at all about, uh, basically, well, how to say that this information is right or wrong? no, they just produce produce produce produces. and we, comrade colonel, agree, but in the twentieth year we went out on the street not to the politicians, not experts, but those people who are amenable to informational and psychological influence and tasks. eh, those very bodies, there tsipson to counteract and

prevent the influence of an informational and psychological nature on our population, at least so that they do not succumb to some kind of emotional outburst suddenly. uh, started to cope with them will illustrate well, uh, what the thesis is probably what happened again over the weekend. and yes, well, yes it did. well, so many children, which i didn’t expect, probably none of the adult thinking prepared people it happened out of the blue, because the tiktok blogger on her social networks said that she was going to arrange a fan meeting. for the most part , we don’t even know santa, and probably even older guys are young. there, the same twenty-year-olds did not hear. it turns out that we live in general on different planets. we just live in different focus groups. as they say, in social information fields moreover, you

look who came there young people, teenagers of 14 years old, that is, because of this opportunity for them to gather people through the internet , they are the most exposed, but they don’t watch political shows, it should be noted they don’t read well. again, we talked. behind the scenes, who should then work for them fourteen-year-old guys, but are they wearing shoulder straps or are they suvorovites sitting two troubles troubles cadres and making managerial decisions. the first trouble, frames. they need to be brought up to develop a person with a high the level of education of the intellect, very responsive to all events. it's just like that. how to say zhivchik is mobile and who knows how to do this, the second trouble is the control system, the control system, which today we are afraid of some locarik belarusian mentality. we are afraid of some

remark from above that this is not so and the president said it. let's live a little differently. this is the job of the president now. he outlined it for us to develop precisely this system , the management system and the personnel system. if we will do this if we are already, and then we will be active. if normal cadres come and a normal management system, then everything will be more or less fine with us. yes, you just have a basic fundamental mistake. everyone. you don’t understand, here is the best textbook on political technologies, the russian oleg matveychev wrote what he says there, there is a very simple thesis, political strategist and media technologist. first of all, he is an artist and a creative person. they served this generally incompatible things. service people should not be allowed in the media. it altogether completely different. it's a creative profession, like a designer. something is to invent images, they are according to the charter. i think i almost agree. uh, there are just two approaches nato from the very beginning of its creation has made an approach to information-psychological manipulation, but it works. what a difference warsaw pact domination has become an

advocacy ration approach. yeah logical who won and who won that's ' bout i'm running. in general, i would have doubted a little, because let's still let's figure it out. i agree that information wars carry great danger and move great things. the number of people aged 13 and 14-15 who, whether due to appropriate upbringing or an appropriate general level of education, are not considered serious literature of the channel? yes, but there will be no banner on the dragstam, no information war will raise in a stag, the normal yegorov will raise it when he reaches the future, because let's look at the result after all. we are in the process now. yes, we are actually in the process and starting breaking about the fact that nato won, as i

understand it, yes, i know that you have enough strength so that you raise the knowledge of the restag set the task of destroying the inside to create socio-political instability. our main problem. a serious technical lag in the control of the world media space, and not control the world media space, cut off the unity of the chinese to create their own analogues, being the second economy in the world, correctly says - it's very expensive internet - it's very expensive. this is huge money. they spend billions dollars. first, they control all the major social networks, but the major video platforms and how you work effectively entering the audience. we are here on our own, as they say, in the media space markets. we can at least counteract more or less effectively, but in an international key, it is very difficult for us, because we did not have enough prohibitions. to us something to forbid to supervise conditionally. well, let's shut down instagram let's shut down youtube well,

they say there's a way around it, of course not. oh, i've been listening carefully for this emotional discussion. the issue, of course, is quite complex and multidimensional, but we must understand that today, e work in the information space. it is built not only through the media through social networks, but we need to look wider. and just the example that you gave is that a twelve-year-old girl collected in this pier. e, the same , yes, that is, uh, 12 years old, well, firstly, they play adults as a girl. you must have seen her video there. yes? uh, when she looks away and she is told what to say and how to say it? uh, it works. that is, this is an actress, in fact, they make an actress for her. well,

this slime is still a weak actress, about which i want to say that we need to look at this work more widely and, of course, education is included in it. and the education system should also be here, uh, more actively turned off, therefore, yes, ours. today they will give bans from the other side to our journalists. here is your view, as a legislator, yes, to our journalists, or to those who are involved. this media defense lacks courage or cynicism, because in ukraine you know enough about cynicism, but i still fully support the progressive. ah, that it is necessary to operate with the truth e, not with the tools that nato countries use but are not needed, because it does not work. yes, you are 1 second. may i speak? here you again sang the washington house, new york times. well, let's just say that people who know

know that, uh, how everything is connected there, and who throws articles there, who throws blogs and and these publications. they are of course, they are built into that propaganda machine as a whole. even for a journalism student, sergei anatolyevich, and the new york times, and all the other newspapers that i spoke about, this is an indisputable authority. that's the problem, but when uh the ex-president, uh the us says it's fake news these newspapers and they proved it. you know, at one time they, in general, uh, were lost by the president. you see, there is such a story here that we are talking about trump and e, despite the fact that, of course , the head of state spoke critically that we should not calm down. we have accomplished a lot since

2000, but the world is changing rapidly and we need to keep up. and in my opinion. today, you know, here again everyone is talking about the efficiency of speed, well, today the problems of the meaning of meanings are even in analytical programs today. yes, there is enough real analytics with real information that produces the thoughts of those who then are authorities in society or not , on the one hand, there is to the end. uh, a certain mass grouping is conditionally a group that has been read. uh, on the internet emotionally overexcited. yes, here, as they say, an ambulance and treatment are needed, but after all, not everyone is like that and we do not want to turn into a society of idiots. switch

one tool to another. if you need a person of this age, so that he does not die, he is engaged in physical education. you need an olympic champion. you are undergoing olympic training. if you need a special forces hand-to -hand combat specialist, he should kill in 3 minutes. you understand, therefore, a technique for analysts. this petya will be watching a girl. if someone won't look, i’ll give an example of a squirrel, 37,000 subscribers, yellow plums gained 200,000 completely in a year and a half, working in a different field, so we must have different working methods and all tools are good, but you can’t kill the respectability of the information field, because we’ll approach trust, therefore penny it all oversaw and bred says. here are fourteen-year-old boys working in tiktok. here, twenty-year-old boys work on yellow plums, and here, 45-year-old uncles write analytics for some secret. remove channels labeled secrets. we have

such a thing, but it means, you see, that we asked this question, but we must go to this and say. here i am talking all the way. we have our military secrets. probably i am watching, as an experienced person, the information field. i saw several special technological operations carried out by the belarusian authorities. successfully. they were held, thank you. we will not explain everything to god what kind of operations they were, but it is another matter that you should act even harder on their field. russia has the resources and today around mexico should to be in texas a special group that will suffer about the fact that they took him texas sting near texas this is more important a group and will be remembered. why exterminated 2 million local indigenous people to support. after all, he is right, in fact, that an artist is needed, a creator is needed, but i insist that in our belarusian realities , next to such an artist should be a pozhi. you know the statutes of the ensign no. yes, only

then the artist will not declare that i am an artist, i see it that way and leave me alone. yes, it makes sense to work here, it is necessary to strive for universalization, like the sexual language of the universalization of the visual language, in order to capture the audience as much as possible on the contrary with one content. that's why strive here, that in fact, the highest class of different regional tourists. i see how the state view. here, they simply encapsulate themselves, puppet them, and speak completely about their own language. i see a lot of money they are talking about, and you want to say, but that the statistics of supercharging has nothing to do, in principle, with reality. no, what if wait, wait on that, the grind of the grain

doesn't matter. especially now you can’t even sell something with literature, young youth. not under such a short time, even if you kept often and say i don't know the youth, there are years old, about which there are 18-30 sauce your video. let's calm down a bit. yes, the current question. let me right bitch belarusian territory belarusian people with their mentality here on this field the state has put things in order, no matter how skeptical it may seem to you. now the president is talking about a field that is not on the territory of belarus abroad for this, what is needed first are technical resources that will be there, as you said correctly. er, well, don't dominate. and at least yes, to wear or be able to convey certain information, the second, again, is the loyalty of the personnel, who can speak this

language, not only speak. well, to also be understandable in the language in which it will work , because i say it again, we will not achieve anything by defense. an example is very vividly shown. how necessary to have these frames. riga center communications literally 4 years ago. there was a recruitment of personnel not just russian-speaking, which is enough in riga around this memorial. there are a lot of russians there for me, but who understand the language of the youth, who know how to speak with them and who understand the shortage of personnel, and they applied for high salaries, our president spoke about the need to form such a potential, which in the end will be able to work there. why prevent the republic is. that's it in this. here, if look at your two theses the first thesis, er, artie yes, a

great attempt was made, what came out of it practically blocked and the second moment every speech of the president every now. uh, such a meeting with media representatives and immediately around the world, practically including these publications. yes, which i criticized immediately go quotes from the statements of our president. what does it say? this again says, and the meanings. you look every time , uh, there are certain meanings. yes , they do send messages, that is, it is necessary, firstly, to be able to you need to talk and feel this one, but the relevance of this moment, so i don’t deny technological technical financial possibilities. they are always important, but can anyone else speak? what he says and when he says, i just

want to add to the two, necessary, components of comrade colonel, to the third one, in order to work successfully in a foreign field, out there we need a creative creative petrov, yes, meaning sowing in all directions and ensign bashirov who will be accurate see that petrov sows where it is necessary and then when it is necessary, and so we must understand, but we must understand that each defends its information field, each therefore. eh, that 's also a question. me your look. the main problem is our cameras. yes, i think it's natural, because the state is too big for this. uh, in this situation, artists themselves are not born. it seems to be a natural situation, if there was a more liberated state, you would be more people. so, in principle, the problem is in belarusians, psychological and some aspects, but belarusians by nationality

bobrovich, they are the sixth generation, but i reforged myself. ukraine has greatly liberated its society, which led to several saints, kyrgyzstan, the most unsuccessful country among the cis countries, has been liberated, so it’s great about the president’s speech. it 's excellent. here is the president's nuclear weapons speech, and delivery vehicles. unfortunately limited, because they control you can interpret the bible understand, therefore, there is an interview with the president of the tin what they left of him? that's what we need to understand, look what's the problem vsevolod it seems to me that he believes that if you leave the state, some mushrooms will grow. yeah. and they will manage themselves. yes , let's look at the americans, her extremist radio liberty, in my opinion, is far e no, a private office and not by itself there. with some kind of grants, the best

resources get to the top vsevolod e, the same polish ones are all state-owned, so you don’t have to do it yourself grow up in a talented environment. it doesn't grow anywhere. well, listen, i sprouted myself. in general, i have an education in financial colleagues, and the belarusians of beslan will talk about this information security and personnel, here. we kind of came to the conclusion that the belarusians, it seems, are to blame through the mouths of our ukrainian. uh, the visa officer who was just now, yes, olga mikhailovna really come like that. well, let's say there to cloudy. uh, quiet calm people who, in principle, can not take place in the profession. of course not, there are talinovity velma arrogant in a certain sense, young people. who knows what leo can be, what we are, uh, you are the platform about whom we talked about tektoks about instagrams, and we already have them here

to improve and the most important thing that i don't know is that the knee is coming from the withheld university. we say from their minds that i wo n’t ask if i kept a lot of information on the summary, and that’s what they said, that the state is to blame here , see, let’s do something wrong, look. well, not all of them go to the state media. i take the state exam, i know for sure that most of them. either he leaves the profession altogether, or the state media, or even not the state media, is going around, but we are on we’re going to practice and the size of the colleagues retained by the media, people canceled the training on the budgetary form, and they, after all, were guilty of yapping there revelation for the fact that he taught him himself for free, they repudiated the judge’s degree, they had so many machines of the oilman, of course, this is already leaving, but if we let's take a look at our itinerary information, velmishmat ships would be great. if you really could, well, thank you

and be useful, and not just sit quietly and write in your place. uh, the number of words that is there, but requires editorial, for example, or make, uh, the amount of video information you look at journalism staff. well, at least somehow, at least through someone else's eyes, in order to understand if they are needed or not, or if they are needed, personnel to adjust the frame of psychology personnel, i don’t know the faculty of international relations there. to work, i apologize to work in the same tiktok as a journalist and you don’t have to be by education. this is what we talked about in the previous part of the program. yes, a journalist is based on a fact, and a person who can say something in your blog in your tiktok. well, the fact may not be, he can simply express his private opinion his fantasy, i don’t know my idea, a professional gifted creative, who speaks foreign languages, who knows how to work in a team. if such a person

is found welcome in vain, we released all the conclusions. yes, in my opinion, everything except the team. yes, we can return it. i don't agree with you that a journalist is based on a fact, or is a journalist based on a language? and let's see, let's just say, alone journalists convey facts in language, other journalists, far from facts, use the same language. so, therefore, the main merit of a journalist is that he will say, including the person who is not a journalist, who sometimes writes, sometimes they do something. that's what a journalist is. maybe your words can be turned into some kind of academic vocabulary into human andrey, here they are in journalism. the first author's column appeared and i remember it in the spring. ah, the twentieth year. it was andrei mukovin. after him were all the others. here's my question anyway it was just like that, because until august of the 20th century, right?