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it all starts with the origins and traditions of the memory of our ancestors. preservation of the culture of belarusian rituals and crafts but the world

is changing. generations and attitudes change and creativity does not stand still. when people realize the value of traditions and understand where to move on, art takes on new bright colors. my name is irina karnaukhova. i am a poet and writer, a member of the writers' union and the head of the folk club of composers of this zhivits, minsk region. i would like to talk about my work, about my family, about a trip to many interesting places, especially to lake baikal. and in general, uh, tell me about how i became a writer. hello

on the air, say svetlana smolonskaya and victoria popova are not silent. and today we have away, irina karnaukhova, irina alexandrovna , you have a full namesake in literature, irina karnaukhova, however, her middle name is valerianovna. please tell me such a creative relationship, it obliges to keep the brand. this is also a folklorist writer honor performer of folk tales. of course it does, when i found out that it turns out there is such a namesake. e, i was curious at first, then i tried to find out what her work represents and realized that after all i don’t really intersect with her, so i can go along her own path, but she is smart,

because to show the siberian nature to show the uniqueness and depth is worth a lot. well, the confusion arose were what arose when one began to look for uh, or to the library? i come somewhere and says, in so many books. you write about this, and talk about it, do not be confused. this is a totally different writer. i will list for our viewers what you have achieved uh, get drunk member of the belarusian union musical figures suddenly unions of writers of belarus union state writers unions union of kursks. literary laureate of the minsk regional prize, winner of the st. petersburg medal for the great way of literature, the honorary title of kursk nightingale and finally the head of the folk club of composers and poets zhivitsa and when you yourself realized that literature is your vocation. at what age? it happened very late in the first place. if i

loved to read, i loved the elements and learned and when i worked, well, they won’t be so deceitful by the director of the school. we organized skits all the time, and there we just copied. uh, famous poems in your own mannerist. it was interesting and curious. but creativity came to her only at the age of 40. wow, only 40 years old and the first ones were, oddly enough, these are song lyrics, first the song lyrics, then the music, then the verses went and then i wondered. about whom in general? is this necessary, and why do i need all this, it seems, an accomplished profession, uh, accomplished as a mother, as in a family as a woman? well, why do you still have this, but, probably, so to speak. yes? the first experience was successful, this poem is very successful, because this song was about

christmas is the ninety-sixth year. we had a christmas concert. now they are constantly then it was a new thing and we lacked the final song for the concert. i wrote it in three voices with accompaniment and the children in the choir at our school sang it for many years. what school principal were you with? to whom shall we say hello. here i will definitely tell you, hello. this is a michaic school of arts in the minsk region. i'll write. i song how it happens, what prompted you to take the paper pen everything write off a song you know, well, probably, let's start with the fact that after all i'm music. professions and i graduated from the theoretical department after all, a theorist and the very first e, that impetus and teacher who made it possible to compose. it was at the music school in baranovichi vinks valery andreevich who came from his wife to teach e.

after graduating from the st. petersburg conservatory, yes, the leningrad conservatory, and now he taught us how to compose. it was such a wonderful push, because this was the school, the first school that made it possible improve. well, since i was very fond of poetry, too, since childhood. these are the classics of the silver age who generally learned this. we, probably, all the girls copied these poems into notebooks. and uh, especially about the lyrics of nature, especially love. so. well, that's all, i guess you understand, irina alexandrovna millions of women people write poetry. we are in all social networks that have only been, yes in odnoklassniki there is further facebook as on twitter, we read these tones of the work everywhere and very few of them give a chance of fate in general for these verses to sound sometime with us today why does fate favor you? how do you think i am in

life? not an inquisitive person, if i want to master something, if i like something, i will definitely try to do it and bring it to perfection with quality, probably, after all, since childhood. this is the goal, brought up by myself to be honest to be decent to be open gullible to accept life as it is, but, probably, i’m telling me for this, the almighty gave myself these directions impossibility, but mastering some musical direction. i said there is music, which means the rhythm of the verse is natural. it will go immediately prose much later came very late, because, well, i loved to write an essay at school. we then wrote dictations of the presentation of the essay, but here is the presentation, but it was not mine to retell something of the thought, this is one thing, but to turn around in the essay. you understand the flight of the thought of fantasy, when you belong to yourself, and

that's what led me to what i'm doing. well, you understand that literature is yours dropped out of school for enough. let's say for a short period you already have 34 books in your creative piggy bank. i remember being 40 years old. you have just entered literature. and you said that 2 3 4 books a year is easy for you. from where such fertility comes the thought comes the image and that's it. i got hooked on it and start to write write write write write write write write. and here you see, here's the push. like any master. like any creator. here's someone starting to do it. stop, it's beautiful . and now i want to see the final result. i can't sleep. uh, until four in the morning, until i stop, i won’t finish writing, and then it just comes, comprehension, editing, editing, somewhere, something, some kind of pressure, it’s written like this. and when today is this level, when there are so many books

e, i want to hire some literary negro already. no. that is, you like everything and processing and editing. yes, and yes, you write writing in bed at 4:00 at night or at the table earlier , lines came to me in a dream, i laid it out to sleep. suddenly a reference came, then lay next to it in in block and quickly to the touch with a pencil she wrote now with verses of this no with verses. mm, the lines are more polished. here you cling to one behind it, and it spins with you for a very long time, because again. and what is poetry in prose? it’s easier to turn around, there’s a lot of things to fantasize, not to fantasize, very much accuracy is needed somewhere. e hmm from writer's economists poems - this is the concentration, when literally even in four lines. you have to here's an idea thought laid out to say so to everyone who

will. read for himself he saw his own picture, actually the ocean. actually, the ocean. where does he dive and is he comfortable there or not? is it his or not, therefore, i don’t know my work is very diverse and diverse, because i write both philosophical poems and spiritual themes - this is also lyrics. naturally, and civil lyrics. eh, humor. i also had a lot. eh, it’s easy to master the belarusian language completely, because it is used by my life to write poetry. and also know a very large vocabulary . this is also great science. i to this arrived at the moment. i still try to compose something at sea, but still the russian language. he is genetically closer to me. i think so that a creative person. he knows better than anyone what he did and what he didn't.

therefore, name the top 5, well, from books or poems or works that you can immediately recommend to say, here i am well done, but first, this is a collection of people, like stars of reflection, because more perfect verses have already been collected here. i do not repeat and will not do until the favorites. i am i think the chosen one will be made into collections in 10 years, so poetry for completely different tastes in completely different directions. and what's most interesting is that even , you know, women's poetry is also said to be men's poetry, and i think that it's the kind of poetry that either touches you or doesn't touch you, or you feel it, or you don't, or you understand it, or you do n't. and you know that i liked this collection, that in the male half. what about the female half? well, of course, this series

baikal friend and the kingdom of sacred baikal are two little books. uh, the third is already being prepared for publishing house. this is the star publishing house. and i betrayed my trips to this sacred lake and traveled a lot. in the summer, once to me, uh, the children told her. mom, did you see the winter baikal comes to us in winter, when on march 8th. well, we'll talk about this later, yes, so here are these books. i also recommend and this series here are two books, but this is my know-how, as i say, because each book has 12 stories, everything related to stripes is associated with a specific color. there are poignant stories. there are corner stories. there is a story about caps. mushroom stories have already been written. they are absolutely not for the little ones, not for the middle one, it’s just for school age, where

everyone can take something for themselves, or for the primary grades they were determined for the middle ones, that is, it’s like an instructive story where it’s not done instructively. mm, such a moral conclusion, and that's it. it's subdued. children understand the story itself. e, i am grateful that the pedagogical university, e, took it. hey, there are a few books already. e for graduation theses, and i attended such open lessons, when you analyzed stories and in such stories here, your experience at school probably helps you. i'll just say that i didn't just work at a music school. i also worked as an elementary school teacher. uh-huh and teachers of the ethics of the psychology of family life. yes, i am a teacher from beginning to end. so this all helped me a lot, if you take into account. in addition to my musical education, i also graduated from the pedagogical university, er, and having an entry in the diploma. and

that i am a teacher of ethics in the psychology of family life and an educator methodologist, that is, studying a huge number of different psychology. this is what helps me a lot. understand and work and write your works and vkontakte with people. well, i understood. the key thing in your answer was why fate spoke to you in this way, that you are not too lazy to learn, that is, people they usually think that they are brilliant a priori and that’s all and they don’t want to learn anything new, and you are constantly perfection constantly and is at present . i realized that it’s better for me to write song lyrics and give professional composers those who will do beautiful arrangements of music, what do i do with it, what do i write myself? yes, why well, because i won’t reach there hmm that perfection like me, let’s say, even with you maybe, but female music is, maybe

we just don’t grow up, because here you need either, uh, literature, or music . e, a lot of everything turns out e blurry, but blurry, this is generally curious. why haven’t we got a lot of names for women’s music, and composers, i mean, some names that women don’t reach, then the height of the question is that this is the only union that cannot be set foot without having a composer's department behind them. this is the union of the composer, if they enter into this union what will improve in their lives. i don't know, well, for the status maybe on the other hand. i know that e then the opportunity to carry out more concert performances. the same philharmonic will be more interested and offer. uh, his own work for performance in schools , colleges, and so on. it's such

a kind of pass yes, yes, yes, yes, because what if i'm an ordinary amateur composer , let's call it, yes, an amateur, i'll come with my works. let me have them, maybe very good amazing ones to go to any institution in the school. take a look at me and say, you know, we have a professional. uh-huh plus. considering that competitions are competitions, a work is required for the performance of a professional composer, belarus, and such one of the mandatory works, but there is. well, if we say so far in the official composers , the path is ordered. let's get back to literature. and we already talked about the collection of poems people are like reflection stars - this book was nominated for the national literary award in 2019. let's listen to an excerpt from your poem. there are people like stars. and we will discuss the milky way along the north star, along the seas and oceans, galleys, boats

, ships, ships through the parallels. and they didn’t get lost in navigation at all, when the sea was they were helped by a map of the star system with fire for a long time, the familiar luminaries of the same romantic people later. yuri prepare whose performance it sounded the poem drew a parallel between the star

and vladimir vysotsky and to whom did you dedicate this poem? i dedicated this poem, probably to all those caring people who are looking for their bird happiness and follow their dream in the first place. for me , my father was a beacon. he crashed a military pilot at 33 years old. i was 8 years old. and this is his dream, but she existed with him, and i am already much later already the future is already age. uh, such an average found out that he was preparing for the cosmonaut detachment, you understand this, a parallel astronautics star pilot. e, here for me , she was also some kind of unattainable and a in childhood. i thought that i should replace my father. i really wanted to become a military man. in fact, everyone laughed at me. i have to, i have to, because i want to fly like dad. well, of course, it was funny, then

came. mm to that conclusion. that you can fly there in a different way you can fly. even a philosophic understanding of life is also a flight, a flight of thought, a flight of fantasy. that's why it's impossible, if we have an example of valentina tereshkova, i don't know, well, that is, the soviet ones. vova's children also treated them. to be, in general, with examples of how a woman conquers space, our mother is a more mundane person. she considered that for a woman the profession of a music teacher is the best, and under what circumstances her father crashed, and this was surprising the day before. uh, my sister and i were in a pioneer camp. they came with my mother, and i don’t know why i clung to my father, and then my intuition is still very developed. here, i feel feel people. uh, feel contact non-contact worth go or not, and the situation. i already have them somewhere. and i grabbed my dad. when i didn’t

say goodbye, i say, daddy won’t let you go. and he says, daughter, tomorrow i will wave my wings to you, we have flights tomorrow. and on tuesday morning when my mother arrived. and we learned this tragic news. eh, it was amazing. it was a twin, two professional pilots. i'm telling you, all the more i was preparing for the cosmonaut detachment, uh, who says the bird got into the engine? uh, who says that they confused the sky with the earth on instruments? i say, well, it's hardly we uh found information. i have already reached and in the archive and it is still not clear the cause of death, and podlyakova, what is such a hmm witch river, the village of roosters. and here in this swamp in the river. there is just some kind of mystical story there. yes, and now, uh, dad, we have his grave, he is buried at the military cemetery in kursk, and on perekalsky,

there are afghan guys nearby, and the guys from the dead submarine, kursk, uh, memorial to the military, this is a very holy place. every time i come to the course, of course, i go and these are i have a feeling that he is alive. well, i didn't see him. uh, a grobule lives there. he was closed to me, of course, he said he lives far, far away somewhere. and as i understand it, it means that the soul is eternal, which means that his soul is with me all the time. and, probably, sometimes he waves his wings to you. yes , your intuition can be trusted. let's break for a while, i remind you, we have a telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe to ask questions. suggest guests we are in touch. everyone loves good food. how about cooking? today we have breakfast of champions, buckwheat, noodles and chicken with vegetables can't

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a good doctor, and i think that this is confirmed by the responses of his contemporaries, who, at the same time, chekhov could save others from the death of a good diagnosis, but he could not save himself . it always seems to me that chekhov was in a hurry to know the world and see what others might not see, see the documentary dear anton pavlovich on our tv channel. say again, do not be silent, and we have a teacher, writer, musician, irina karnaukhova, irina alexandrovna and please tell me, can the pressing problems of today be reflected in your work. well, not much we now have a positive, let's say directly and specifically, military operations and sanctions from the west well, our favorite in

quotation marks the twentieth year, which we often remember in this studio, of course, everything is reflected, let's say in prose. i have several stories. eh, with such a quidditch theme but i certainly go out in more humorous to. well, so little good good. i want to hear that good kind children, so that there is less of this negativity. i don't specifically write. i'm not specifically uh talking about the fact that what is happening is already terrible, because every woman who gave birth to a child, carried him for 9 months, discharged him while he grew up. how many questions, problems, everything and suddenly , unexpectedly, someone simply selects. this is life. eh, that's wrong. it shouldn't be like that. uh, if all the rulers of the world understood that this is stupid. it's just stupid, maybe

you should sit down, uh, and talk better bad peace than a wonderful war, as it happens with some people, i want to read one poem, which was written e literally. somewhere, probably, the twenty- first year. the motives of the universe sounded on the air and it was blessed in the hearts of people. listen, hear, it seems there are no explosions in the world and there are no tears of mothers in the gul. the world needs a warming of the heart in an open smile and generosity of hands, but it is drowning in careless devastation madly destroying all life around and the second poem, also a small one, is called the slavs. let's leave this behind

threshold khokhlov muscovites greater and all others. after all, we walk under the sun alone and under god, slavic roots for everyone, by the way, singers wrote about this from ancient times and so that the earth becomes peaceful and okay. let's leave the discord of resentment at a friendly table with understanding, sit down. i am a peace-loving person, and therefore i think that it is always possible to agree on any topic. we are completely different, as he said, gidromapassan. everyone. this is a book, the letters are the same, but the content is different. to be able to listen to the other side, to be able to accept, to agree and understand. this, probably the highest goal, which should now be necessary to disperse. i, as i

consider different sides and listen and try to still hear. well, this is what we call for in this studio. quite often, indeed, attempts to reach an agreement have not been crowned even once. yes, but we still hope so. when did you realize that you were both a poet and a writer you left, so to speak, secular professions, yes, and began to devote yourself to literature. and this brings in general some kind of financial assistance. i can't believe that yes me that's the press i will not convince you, because of the 34 books published not at their own expense. only six. yeah, i collect money and rent it, collect money, give up and so on, that's why i'm such a conversationalist and coming somewhere to library schools, meeting with children. i especially

try to give most of the books, of course, so that at least something remains for them, because for children, you understand, seeing their eyes. hmm , they called me initially. when i entered into my writers as a children's writer, i was somehow outraged a little. well how is it so? i am here and there and i am also an adult. and now i understand that it is to be a children's writer, and it's so honorable it's so great, because you can't deceive children. this is such a gracious audience. and if they trust you, if they communicate with you, if they make contact, then you have succeeded. how do you distribute? inside yourself these roles? today i will write an adult book, and tomorrow a children's book. no, this is how it goes. how is it going? like like what, how did the inspiration come? today, for example, i am finishing the story e prosaic and at the same time time i have already i've spied on some situation. i’m thinking about this, it’s necessary to write

something on this topic, probably a poem . no, not a story, but a poem. eh, it's very unusual. uh, the situation when here are the children, i act and see how something happens to the children. and i say, well, this is a situation that should definitely be taken as something performed in the library. in the east, and one boy is sitting and talking. and how do you know about our class in caught? and because it began, who is wrong with my girlfriend lera all examples deprived, but i’ll take a notebook and hurry furtively from her, and so on, and my neighbor in pashka is a bear. well, he hit me with a book. well, and so on in this regard, and how the teacher understood in the class, and he says, where are you from our eye. you know, you understand, it means that the situation already had somewhere this is to be, of course, and i'm very hmm i'm trying to write exactly the verses that are

connected. that's it with these relationships. uh, the library calls me or says, we are from there, he wants them to come to us, but what class, and what difference does it make no for the first class. i read one and i talk to them in a completely different way for the second, third, completely fourth, fifth - this is another world. other planet. teenagers are already those that i need on an equal footing, but you can’t talk about everything with them, and therefore avatars also have to be and are given somewhere. to touch upon the topic, probably, bullying, which , unfortunately, we have and so on, but with high school students it’s completely different, that is, therefore, here is a choice. here is an opportunity to create, and there and there and there and there and there you know, it's like hostesses to cover a festive table. ok then. and seek, this is where the means speak collect money. well, uh, i'm currently looking into it. uh, what i collect for retirement uh-huh, that is, you

donate for retirement, yes, and in schools you perform for free , basically, but you can’t evaluate it with any money by any means. this is the energy that comes from children. that's from spirituality. this is how it feeds. plus, there's so much story. this is so much information. you will see and hear from them, because they are not mediocre well. well, even though as you yourself said, here without silver. you can call yourself a successful belarusian writer. well, i think. that's right, yes, honestly, i'm not shy. well, let's get back to the baikal theme. how did you get there? why is this important to you? yes, why are you writing about baikal, ah, my sons live in the city of irkutsk. after school, i went to do one. there remained the second went to act there remained, because the husband from irkutsk it was just the

difficult nineties. you understand that somehow it was necessary to attach the guys, and they stayed there, got married, their grandchildren are there, yes, that is, you got divorced? you are, yes, but the husband, i see. well , the sons have not returned so far. no, you know what nature is there, there is such energy, there is that space to which, probably, i do not have enough here, when i go there, you know, this is the width, this is it. i don't know , something is pulling me there. every time i say, i'll look, i'll think, but uh, today uh, i still think, as long as i'm needed, probably here. i have a lot of friends. i have a lot of my friends, who generally support me in everything i

have a club. i have a brother and sister here sister older brother hmm younger. and this is still holding here, although it seems that i left there, but i will be cut off from everything. i will stay only with my close relatives. i was born in the city of baranovichi. in the family of a military man and all my life i live here, and my children have long been living in the city of irkutsk in russia, so i consider myself the children of the world. i have two motherlands and one big country. our guest was a russian writer. victoria leaderman, and we discussed that her book the mayan calendar in the belarusian store costs almost 55 rubles. and in the same store your book is in ca. sacred baikal costs 5 rubles and kopecks. is this why it is so because the

russian one is better or because we did not like our own? no, you know why, because these books, uh, are published by the star publishing house and due to the number of copies. uh, let's say one collection. it was 1.300 this 800. it didn't sell out immediately, because already after the first part of uh, and. well, probably mm believes that this is an acceptable price for books to be bought. for this, i do not know how much if it cost me 15 rubles. would buy, so i will say, and now you can buy only because i perform a lot, and she is already heard and is already waiting. third part. i already have here just like yes, when will i tell about the beauty of the unique lake. tell us, please, about this series about baikal e. tell me what plot i decided that it

would be the boy styopa with his e, sister on a family trip. mom dad plus more cousins ​​there, all the sisters take such and so they go on a trip to baikal in the winter for the first time. that's all baikal's harsh nature. here is an interesting beauty. baikal to describe all this or ice caves, where stepan gets stepan meets with the spirit of baikal with unusual creatures, so that the shades that i came up with absolutely, and in the third part he will meet, uh, with huge ones. see blue blue laws. these are such russian myths, and belarusian ones inspire in a dream. you know some people. and why am i not taking this topic, because it is already very well, described in our belarusian children's writers enough and even more so in the belarusian language. i think that's what they have already occupied. this is its own niche, but to acquaint children with the unique nature of the fact

that primitive caves still exist on this island of olkhon. there is a kurakan wall, which is still before our era. flat and uh, there is little forest, and the other one is uh, steep. there is a lot of forest there. and just on e at the northernmost point. it is still to the end, unexplored point but so far, 1642 m, depth has been broken at the moment. where the underwater bathyscapes descended - this is a world where the president of russia also descended there. and on this point a tree was built. e image, as if shaman e, such an unusual tree itself, you can see the face plus the buryat bells, which on the wind there is a constant wind and they

ring, and inside there is another large bell. you enter this tree, it is 7 m high, and you make a wish and call the alexandrovna school. you went to this tree. yes, the wish was made true. yes, seriously. yes, believe me. and you know why, because i left here on august 10 after choosing uh-huh, on the night i arrived there, i say, god god let everything be calm in belarus. oh, let it work for a long time. yours. that was the wish. i rang this bell because i was leaving, just on the night of these events, everything bus to moscow and tell me, please, and your literary creative environment. she got influenced. here are the events of the twentieth year. you have lost someone from your circle. you know, probably not. why

because we agreed. uh, here are the topics of disagreement, we do not raise. it is in our club and in such a taboo e, although he says, we have freedom of speech. i say please, anywhere, otherwise i say, we will not have a club. let's agree that we are engaged in poetry here, and not clarifications in some other areas. i just really love baikals i was there and i didn’t even reach the shaman to this famous salkhon. yes, but maybe you can tell me there. e, for example, what kind of meetings did you have with him and what is interesting for you to remember? i only saw, when there was a congress of shamans, how they gathered in these national clothes. and it’s there in the summer every year there is some kind of world congress they have, so to speak, the shaman of shamans, and i can only observe them there from afar. eh, i personally did

n’t specifically fit it myself, but the eldest son yes, he talked, he says, very smart people. they believe all of them and even my children say, you know, like moms, before. we went to olkhon, well, we drove through and that's it. eh, and so on. we are told that there is a special place where you must definitely leave something to appease the spirits. baikal leave a penny. sweets, at least something to leave such as, if the place we stop, because it says after that and uh, the accident was a car accident and something broke somewhere, and broke themselves. do not believe the feathers, but the locals. they believe they are still going because it says we see how the balloons from baikal take off when on the island people respect is interesting, yes, they have spiritualism. they talk to spirits. i just saw them playing drums. these knockers are called drum beats. yes, according to a large chest of drawers. this is what i

tell the kids. why are they interested in asking questions in books. i am describing this, just the meeting with stepanova. he saw the shaman and how he communicated with the spirit of baikal and communicated with the seal, as if telepathically. and the most always say, guys. do you think daddy mom believed that styopa met says? no, well, i say that's right, because they laughed at him a little more, and then they thought about it. and if it may be, in fact there are children who see more than we adults who no longer believe. well you are so interesting exciting and tell us before we are on pause. hey, let me ask you a question. we often ask it to our guests in the studio, and whether our children read modern books, we fall into our target audience. already noticed that if a teacher. sets up children. he says it's a necessary thing.

he knows how to convince them and prompts. what books to read and goes to such meetings. you know, children reading from and to, and there is, uh, the class comes and i see they are indifferent indifferent, because, well, they brought them, because it seems to be necessary, but when we take a photo at the end of the meeting and the guys ask questions. i see that they are becoming interested. and we say, guys, read, you will learn so much, but new, and if you still meet a writer who will tell you even more, ask moms, dad, we are children in the library. and so the librarians say you know after your meetings. uh, he comes, he comes, they take mom, dad , grandmother and says, i need this book and says, of course. i need to sign up for the library, so irina alexandrovna don't listen to your sons. we need you

and ours. thank you and raise further let's say the popularity of our libraries is very good. but we won’t be long, we’ll pause , i remind you, we have a telegram channel. say don't be silent. there you can subscribe to suggest us your guests and discuss already our published issues we are in touch. on the air , say, don’t be silent, and we have irina karnaukhova, the poet and musician irina alexandrovna as our guest, finally, in the third part, we got to your offspring to your main place of work - this is a club, young composers and poets zhivitsa who you created, to whom you've been in charge for 20 years. why beginner by this composers? why only beginners, but this is a beginner - this is someone who wrote the word for the first time, i said lovers, yes, composers and poets, because the amateur performance of the word is no longer

used. yes, this is my baby. eh, when i started writing poetry and already the first book came out. yes, i came to the department of culture in the minsk region and began to ask if we have money in the minsk region club, because i myself do not live in minsk, she says, no, this is to go to the minsk regional center of folk art. maybe they will tell you where i arrived, then, uh, the director was in the tikhovskaya raisa osina, she looked at me, she says. well, write, come organize a club and be here, well , something like that said it, but the idea i got sunk. i thought a year. and then, when i left the director's job, many were surprised, because i lost five times in salary. but i came very. well, now i can use this word terribly, because our first meeting was

in the city of smolevichi in the house of culture. i came from all uh districts to this composer's ensemble of the collective those who perform this author's song, and i looked at everyone. i think i do. well, maybe that's my path. i grew up with them. they are already many wrote from school. they were already in demand. they were already venerable, and, moreover, the two languages ​​\u200b\u200brussian belarusian. i'm from belarusian. i was very friendly, because being a military man. we have been released. we only read literature, but as soon as i read literature, i understood what i was talking about in russian and they let you go. here i had to face the fact that i must know the language and i must understand the words. they supported me. ah, my poets. my own composers. my authors are performers, they

hmm walked next to me and now to today afternoon we came to the conclusion that we have 28 members of the writers' union left the club 13 members of the belarusian union of musical figures, seven members of the literary association streak view. this suggests that the growth is very significant. and i myself became a member of the council to write. i'm only in my fourteenth year. somehow i thought that it was too early i am not worthy of them , and because i see what a strong poetry about my colleagues, my bichans and i, as it were, still did not hold out. but you know why i rejoice in the fact that many of them still come with me also at the meeting, many communicate with me in the same way. they perform concert

programs, they perform at events, because we don't focus only on the meeting. we have a school, a school of training, where there are different headings and a school of acting, and under the impressions, we have a master class and creative laboratories, where we invite professional poets again, professional composers, actors who have taken place, which i give us from the school of acting, to list, i probably won't all. but what, let's say we were supervised from the very beginning by irina viktorovna otrashkevich. this already says something and already a whole galaxy of composers who even went through this and a classical company with classical music, our listeners, regardless of what they write, only songs. this is learning. ah, professionalism, uh growth shows that we are now invited to many events, we participate in international book fairs, like exhibitions and, uh, republican

holidays. e. hmm poetry songs, this is molodechno and even the incas, regional ones used to be republican were, then i can a whole series. uh, list those events where we participate, even a figure. how many professional accomplished writers came out of your club already says a lot. yes, and here, no matter how you are called, amateur amateur, but this is needed is an environment without an environment. creative people are dying. uh, so you just know that yes, what's interesting is that they are very grateful they live in the outback. it's a bit metropolitan . we already have. eh, let's say, maybe even a little loose in quantity. e some communities. clubs of some associations that you can go there, go there, and gather the entire region of the minsk region, and so that they come and they receive knowledge. they received some

information they needed, because we are also presenting the collections . we are this is irina alexandrovna it is clear that the same carnal branch sounded. how many came out of there, then professional poets. that is, this once again shows that an environment is needed, that such clubs should exist, right? well, now, maybe let's move on to the fact that you also a grandmother with many children, besides being happy. mother. you. how many grandchildren six grandchildren three granddaughters and three grandchildren? we have a photo. e, stepan that's just the main character of the baikal book. now he is already yes. you see what a big boy is a philosopher philosopher, we are with him this year, well, we talked for half a day, to be honest, this was not the case last year. this is sonya's sister and his 3 years younger. uh-huh we are also very smart. this andryusha is very serious, those were the children of the eldest son, and this is the youngest. i've been independent for 21 years now. taisia ​​too youngest son athlete. she is our gymnast.

this is our first daughter on the left side of nastya's eldest son. eh, the main thing, as i say, is the very first granddaughter, which is the book i have dedicated to her, i don’t want to. eh, and seryozha said, i don’t want, i don’t want. yes, seryozha is also already an adult guy, and he is already 19 years old. but, unfortunately, the photos that e once wrote to me were not very successful, so he is here congratulating dad on his birthday. and how are they without a grandmother here hmm or with a grandmother. or rather at a distance used to e you you know, we communicate well now , there are such telephones, where you can see and talk, and before, i mostly wrote letters. wow, i wrote this letter. they were small, but contact, of course my daughter-in-law. eh, they're complaining. this is so for many grandmothers , so grandmothers are not always with socks and help

and tell, but then they add, but on the other hand, grandmother is unique, she writes us or not. it is difficult to imagine another alexandrovna who will sit with her grandchildren. she has zhivica in her there. you fall a lot with your grandchildren. we are very um contact we understand each other is wonderful, because i can find topics with each of them according to their age. well, yes, you said that stepan is the prototype of your main character in the book, and your first granddaughter anastasia, she actually became the trigger for the cut from which children's literature began, it is, yes, but despite the fact that you , a very creative person creative the genes of your sons have chosen more such, say, rational professions. we have already talked about them. that's what you said when you and i discussed the issues that one businessman the second supply and supply are all in general, a large firm of the moscow hmm organization and

supplies. eh, somewhere in the upper sayan , there are some developments there, something else, and therefore it is very difficult. all i delve into somewhere is the difference in time, because he speaks with moscow for 5 hours, it’s already night, and all the management is calling me. uh, when they have an evening, that is, in fact, there is no night, but you have to say so. i think that you communicate very closely. you find a common language with them and you are on the same wavelength, despite the difference in professions. you know, they are very clever with me. they are my wonderful sons, restrained serious. uh, they themselves realized in the professions they themselves chose. here is their direction of life and , uh, the fact that they have now built their own life, and they have housing, they have a job, their choice was provided by their

families. it's already worth a lot. and i say what i tried to pawn. eh, they were able to take it in them, and it is very important. they are friendly and they have a lot. friends here is what i always said guys. understand, we are far parents. we are today, tomorrow is not, you should be friends with each other, should support each other, because no one will be closer to you. and whether the state should support the creative intelligentsia, looking at you, you will not understand. you are, as he said, bystrov ether and nothing material in a dream. this i don't see. but what do you think, i think it should certainly support, because hmm i won't go. uh, well, to look for money for myself personally, but for a club for someone i will do it uh, find sponsors for myself. no, you're such a feature of our character, i'm for myself

ask. yes, but per club per club. yes, thank you very much for this conversation. you are a very pleasant bright person. it’s clear why people don’t part with you , don’t leave even when they learn all the regalia, awards and financial support and the favor of the publishers, they still come to you just for communication. we are grateful and once again thank you very much for this time. thank you for the great meeting for the advice for the questions that you uh asked me, because uh, you know, all of a sudden, my whole own life opened up, starting with childhood. and until today. maybe for someone it will also be a discovery that they will hear today. hey, i'm in the club. i myself speak very little, i read, and some of our colleagues somewhere are even offended by me. why can’t we hear you and because i give you the opportunity to speak and we were happy listeners today, at least two poems you

managed to read to us svetlana smolonskaya. victoria got to you today we say goodbye. goodbye. goodbye. and now irina karnaukhova, dear friends, respectful colleagues, is speaking. dear mothers, on the eve of mother's day, i want to wish only one thing, that you be happy, that you be healthy, that there is only harmony in your life, that white and black unite into one common whole and yang , and that the world be a joyful event for you and to keep everyone healthy.

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