or not, and moreover, you will be surprised, but it is not the labor protection engineer who should instruct them ; well, consider it as a deputy, yes, the director of labor protection is a person who must organize the process, that is, he believes that if an organization believes that labor protection in an organization is occupied only by a labor protection engineer, then we can safely say that work is not established there in accordance with required by law, and such an organization is obviously not immune. god forbid from cases of death or injury to their employees. that is, it’s not worth saving an organization on such a combat unit as an occupational safety specialist, it’s definitely not worth saving. it’s clear, god forbid, if a person doesn’t become the size of social harm, in general, well, you can’t measure it, but these are economic losses. these are losses, prestige and so on, for example, here is the western partners in order to work there with the west. it

is mandatory to provide requirements. yes, and certification of the quality system, including certification of the labor protection management system. why because the firm which? well, in the event of an injury, he constantly admits that something is wrong in the company, respectively, this company is unlikely to supply me with quality products, and so on. that is, in principle, this, well, lowers the rating of the company, including in the competitive struggle, so i would not advise saving on the security service. here you are investigating. uh, the briefing was not properly conducted, who is to blame, otherwise the person who was supposed to conduct this briefing, if we are talking about the primary workplace or the second one, then this is the leader directly. losses, let's show you a short story and then ask a question alexander zhuk 7 years, as shinnik, a tire assembler position, a place of work with a kg sinning plant 2 years ago, a new complex appeared here. he creates rubber shoes for mining trucks with a diameter of 25-29 inches. load capacity up to 19 tons

due to modern equipment, alexander's work is now more mental than physical technique controls through the control panel. but it's easier to work here. well, new everything is here, as if everything is already thinking for you. the machine already thinks everything for you, it has come to our factories. automation decreased or due to this injury rate. yes , injuries have gone down. why because, probably, the most effective way, uh, to prevent a person from being exposed to a hazardous production factor is to make some distance between them to remove it. here you have given an example. yes, belshina is a large-size tire factory. ah, so good an example is, for example, what is happening to me now from this organization in the system of the ministry of forestry, when from hand-rolling and scaffolding they pass to machine felling , a person is already sitting in a cab, protected at a distance. that is, the case

of the possibility that he will have a dangerous production here is excluded. it is clear that automation of the mechanization of the process reduces the risk of injury, but it is an axiom in such a production that you can get insignificant sick leave, as it should act in this case hire, well, minor damage to health. e, which did not result in disability in terms of the order of the next special cases such. this incident is called microtrauma. so let's say it. so it is investigated solely by the labor protection engineer by filling in the appropriate column in the register of accidents at work. so why is this being done? uh, the first one, because the safety officer needs to know that. well, what a microtrauma could be, and god forbid, a serious injury as a result, for example, a flying particle hit the forehead, this scratch hit the eye. this is already a serious injury, that is , a labor protection specialist must know in order to take action, and the other side of the coin is

an injury, which, again. yes, today did not even cause disability for one day or more, the consequences can lead to disability. e, there was a case in life, when a piece of brick hit the head of a worker during loading operations, which means that he was not on course, even one day a registration log was recorded accidents after a year and a half, his eyesight began to fall after 2.5 years. he was already an invalid of the second group of sight in this case, the darkness gave the conclusion that most likely. this is the loss of vision associated with that injury in this case, a person is drawn up an act of an accident at work form one and he again has the right to turn to a friend for fear of obtaining insurance. if this person had not been recorded in this journal, then it would have been very difficult, but 2.5 years later, in court, he proves that at such and such a time there was this fragment of a brick it was not good if the witnesses

who remember, therefore, well, even such a trifle, i would not advise returning to the fact that our social protection is primarily ourselves and we must. well, in general, to know some of your elementary bases. yes , amazing in theory. we all know them when we go through the water briefing to us. shows about this uh in any instruction on labor protection in the actions in the section of actions in case of an emergency it is mandatory to say that if you are injured, or become connected injuries, immediately, report this to your supervisor. that is, in theory. we all know this; the whole question is how we do it . i sprained my ankle on the stairs at work. i did not think that i could go and record this case in a journal, which means that the way you organize the instrument is not painted. wait. no, i ’m talking about the fact that i myself sat down, that i don’t know such uh elementary things that you need to go and in order to speak correctly in order to protect your rights, at

least know the fashion. i work in the system ministry of labor with themselves protection for more than twenty years, in my opinion. culture. the legality of our citizens is increasing. maybe not at the pace that we would like as employees of the ministry of social protection, but positive changes are evident in the faces of the employees. ears know their rights, and workers dare to protect them and workers know where they need to go to protect their rights back in 2018 the ministry began to introduce the concept of zero injuries, its essence is that uh hmm industrial injuries are not evil rocky is not destiny that it can be prevented and avoided, but at the same time at the beginning of the program and in the first part. we said that the figures we have here are inexorable statistics, it says the opposite, that the case of industrial injuries. they grow the concept does not work. so, well, first of all, starting from the eighteenth year. let's see how

the level of industrial injuries in our country is declining. i said that this year, even this year, our overall romanticism is declining , unfortunately, but the number of deaths has increased, which means, secondly the concept of zero injuries, in principle, all these functions were performed in organizations before. they are just this time very comfortable. clearly and intelligibly even for a small organization in a structured way. that is, to put it bluntly, finally. well, here is a simple algorithm of what needs to be done, which means that the implementation of all these measures definitely helps to reduce injuries, but there is a problem. what is it, well, labor protection is such a reactive system. i mean, well, there is some temporary. luck is not allowed. here's something today do. bach - all traumatism tomorrow. no , firstly, not all organizations. they also joined this business voluntarily, and secondly, any concept, any labor protection management system, what we said, yes, it will fail if the participants in this labor protection management system themselves do not do

what is required of them, here we are rude let's say offhand almost 85, well, 80 let's say 85 in different years in different ways, accidents are caused either by the manager fulfilling his duties or by the employee violates these security requirements, which he will teach, that is, for us, the first step. here in our country is the concept of zero injuries, so that it seems to have an effect. we need to somehow achieve self-preserving behavior for ourselves. to put it bluntly , in order to return the light bulb, we took a stepladder, they put a chair on a chair. here is even an elementary thing, yes, which we are all the time . yes, we have people do violate. at least that's it, if everyone just does it . here is what he needs, and already further newer toolkits will start working. yes, here is a risk-oriented approach and so on, after all, it is not in vain that they say that labor protection rules are written in blood, because, well, this is very cynical. but after all, the experience of injury is summarized, the reasons are clarified in the rules, a ban is established

that it is impossible to do this from these rules. they pass into instructions on labor protection reaches the employee. but this is a system when , well, let's say, we hit the tails. the current system. here is the occupational safety and health administration that says including zero concept, but risk assessment-oriented to o how did he show himself that the cause of voluntary injury is, well, a goodwill organization, but the obligation to comply with mandatory labor protection requirements is established by the law on the republic of belarus on labor protection and adopted by its development by-laws . now this is the duty of all employers, regardless of the form of ownership from departmental subordinates in your opinion. why the number of deaths has increased yet the number of road accidents has increased significantly. here from of these 112 people, 29 died as a result of traffic accidents. a traffic accident is more. let's just say the sphere of road

safety. that is, it is, well, not directly related to labor protection. this is one of the reasons, the second reason is that he called that nine people who are in these 112 are people who worked without any formalization of relations at all, it is clear that when we say that a person is allowed to perform such work . without formalizing relations, it is obvious that in such a situation no one is watching. does he have the qualifications of no training briefings correctly that knowledge of security they will, for example, cite. as i understand it, it's all by chance and such hired workers who saw it for the first time from excavators and climbed onto this roof on this roof in the same way in minsk yes, in august. i don’t know here either, probably they read that two people climbed to repair the roof of a kindergarten. the propane tank exploded. here they, too, were not in labor relations with the company that donated this blood. here an investigation is underway now. eh, obviously, what are these people? well, at least they don't know how to do this job safely. well, i

periodically meet him in the press, such events as the week of zero injuries. it's like that for me. compare there a day without a car. everything is something like that. you know, nominative, well, practically not, usually at this time, uh, first of all. e. we say, there is an organization in some area, training seminars with leaders of occupational safety specialists. this is the activation of the work of mobile teams to provide practical help. this is an unscheduled briefing on labor protection with employees in order to once again remind these safety requirements. that is, well, it's not just stretching on the street, it's a set of events. and as a rule, such events are held under the auspices of the district executive committees of the region. for example, mogilev grodno region. there it is carried out in general at the level of the region, that is, it cannot be considered that it is simple, well, some kind of action in the growth of information is everything, that is, a fairly serious complex, i remind you for a while, we have

there is a telegram channel. say don't be silent. there you can subscribe to offer us guests and leave your comments. we're in touch. on the air say again, do not be silent, and in our studio, the director of the state labor inspection department of the ministry of labor and social protection alexander semeevich, such a question, if there is a difference in the investigation of accidents at work in the republic of belarus and in the cis countries of course there is, if we speak , for example, in the cis countries, uh, first of all, these are countries such as russia kazakhstan well, just their i know the legislation better, and first of all they have e, the rules of investigation are an element of the labor code and, accordingly, their action applies only to labor relations of the republic of belarus. the law on labor protection equally protects both persons performing work under employment contracts and under

civil law contracts, which have recently, well, been quite common, therefore, unlike, for example, the russian federation, we will conduct an investigation, even if a citizen is fulfilling work under a civil law contract was injured and he is again subject to compulsory insurance. in addition, i believe that our rules in russia are still. yes, how else, starting from such times, the commission has been conducting an investigation , which means the commission from my point of view, which blurs responsibility a little badly. here we have a special time. in the next special case, the state labor inspector of the department conducts with the participation of a representative of the employer 's trade union. yes, but he is personally responsible for what she writes in conclusion from my point of view, after all, when we talk about personal responsibility. this is much better, because the commission is still something a little amorphous, but i was kind of against it, but in general the entire commission voted for the inspector. ours put his signature on the conclusion, he

understands perfectly well that if anything, he will do what he said. you, that our citizens are better protected, yes, it's hard to say. or worse, i'm just talking about the difference is that we're trying to provide security and social protection not only citizens working under labor contracts, but also under civil defense contracts. and this is taking into account the spread of the institution - in our country, in my opinion, in the region of 600,000 people a year in one form or another work under civil law contracts. i mean, well, a person, for example, can work at his main place under an employment contract, and somewhere, well, there in the evening or on vacation, earn extra money. that is, it is enough, well, it affects a large number of citizens and, of course, ignored. here is such a population condition would be absolutely not right. good but at the same time, we know you often visit the russian federation and you participate in international conferences to exchange experience. and? have you managed to peep something, let's say positive and progressive in our neighbors, that can be implemented in supervisory activities in our

country? yes, you know, the russians and the russian federation already have such a right legislatively enshrined. we still say so use it. well, we are just starting this right to issue a warning, that is, the rostrud inspectorate, having received an appeal, e, citizen. well, for example, that his rights are violated there, it does not come out for verification. she simply writes a letter to the employer explaining that, based on the citizen's appeal. it looks like you violated the abc there, we invite you to voluntarily eliminate this and inform us. uh, so the russians should be written in the legislation. and if it is in such a situation, the employer voluntarily eliminates violations and informs the rostrubinspektsiya about this, no administrative measures are taken in the form of fines. that is, well, prevention in its purest form. yes the inspector did not have to go anywhere; there was no unnecessary check of the rights of workers restored.