no, we have been doing this for 30 years, so we were in the special services, so put aside this stupidity of being united and doing your own and not panicking. our guys want to sow panic, everyone opens this destructive telegram channel, panic tomorrow will be mobilized. tomorrow is war. no need to panic , the intelligence services have done their job. thank you. you know, i still remember, uh, 2010, when we worked out the latest version of the concept of national security. we'll say so after all hmm took went on about some circles and wrote that we have a military threat. no, there is, only a source of military threat. here is today. here the head of state said that it is time to move away from these characteristic, let's say, definitions of defecations there is a military threat. and today. i would say that the concept of national security should be more clearly spelled out in the new edition, so that the emphasis on security will sound tougher. and recommendations for minimizing the neutralization of these threats sounded specifically,

indicating the specific states of which proceed about what to us to leave. he also told the president that there is no need to leave something, write directly, as yulia konstantinovna is accepted. it seems to me that consolidation is our main thing, we need to unite. and most importantly, the main thing is really not to panic and just work, everyone in their place, work and ensure a normal life inside the country, and we have a border, as we understand it, locked up, and we must be sure all the time, eh? if god forbid, says the president, something happens, we will give a decent answer, but we must work and preserve our state the way we want to see and develop it. thank you for giving the president an example of how to act in this situation. it is a cold mind to maintain not complacency, but calmness, but clear, balanced ones. the solution is to act as a team. this is very important thing that

belarusians have always been strong. we call it a loka in different ways, but this important moment is trust and solidarity with our armed forces and the realization that we are belarusians and our task is to protect this corner of the earth, which has always already established itself as a corner of the world of stability, and this is in our power. and, of course, to believe in our allies of the russian federation, and i think that this is a guarantee that we will walk this path with dignity in an extremely difficult situation for the whole world. thank you very much for participating in our program for today. for a moment i want to stop running and see how it rains. the leaves are moving, the sun is shining. and how our life is built from all these little things, i want to look at

this world differently. and open every day something new for myself. and we are so interested in it, because we do it with love. with love from belarus they

will always stay louder than the director, in principle, it was hot. and this even worse chrome church of st. glory is the oldest in our city. it was built in 1848; it does not happen to be grapes, all works. they write something, the soul is invested in them, the eldest, who was a smart kid, see the good wounders, belarus with svetlana borovskaya on our tv channel.

my name is nadezhda sas. i am a journalist authors host of the program sas authorized to announce channel stv today we will talk about

me about a new page in my life and, of course, about the processes that are taking place. international politics and how they affect each of us hello on the air, the program say, do not be silent in the studio victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and today our guest is tv presenter nadezhda sas good afternoon. hope i greet you colleagues. hello nadezhda, you have a rich biography. today we will try to discuss its most interesting aspects, but let's start with an informational occasion recently released on stb a project with your participation sas is authorized to declare let's see the announcement of the program military-political tension in europe is

increasing. what are the challenges for belarus morning starts not with coffee, but with accusations from minsk and moscow i'm not sure that mr. duda, waking up in the morning, begins with threats. republic of belarus lukashenka must stop belarus' involvement in this conflict, not here, one of them will dare to twitch in the direction of belarus. this, of course, is very dangerous. they already have scenarios where nato lost sas authorized announce on stv on sunday 21:00. well, from the name it is obvious that the project of the author's channel stv, in principle, relies on the author's journalism. describe how you understand your presence in this program. i am an international lawyer by training. i graduated from the institute of international relations. well, since i am a creative person, i always wanted to be

in a slightly different sphere of television and allow me to enrich my inner world and give it to the viewer. excellent information product. i am very glad that after my long suffering and efforts to prove rather even those or the manager that the international is interesting, she is needed, because a long period of her life. i heard people don't get it. it's complicated. we should not talk about simpler things to everyone. it is interesting. now , uh, the information agenda indicates that if you are not involved in politics, a politician will definitely take care of you and it is no longer possible to be indifferent and not interested, and my main task, as a journalist, as the author of this project, is to help. collect the most interesting information that is in

analyze it in the international space with the participation of guests in the studio of expert analysts b of real professionals in their field and provide this high-quality, ah, intellectual television product to the viewer. and now the main task of us as journalists is to help the viewer, and to separate the wheat from the chaff, because today we live in such a stream, information is incredible, it's hard not to get lost. it is important to understand the cause-and-effect relationship of certain processes, because there is an abundance of information. even sometimes e poor quality. it breeds fakes breeds unprofessionalism. even colleagues always need to double-check information and give it from trusted sources and its viewers. hope, our viewers will probably be interested to know what kind of education you receive. in kiev, they lived in kiev and raised children there, and

worked on television in kiev until february of this year. it was quite a prosperous life. suddenly you decide to collect everything you can, and come to minsk with you in small suitcases why, what influenced this decision, unfortunately freedom of speech in ukraine ceased to exist long before february 24, when hostilities began on the territory of the country, and i, as a journalist, was deprived of the right to a profession by the current ukrainian authorities, although, of course, the first attempts . yes, journalists were fighting the fourth power even under president poroshenko, then for the first time that the authorities wanted to fight journalists, and we defended it. your right to exist, but, unfortunately, president zelensky is so repressive the body, which i call it that way from the nbo

, decided to revoke the license, to completely close the tv channels, 112. ukraine was called sieg at different times in his life. look, it was 2016, when there was a seam on her, she closed you because you covered petro poroshenko then the wording was for violating professional standards and personal opinion about the country's leadership on the air. yes, today it seems to you that this was a fair formulation of that time. i'll tell the audience that you said that he would approve of being worried. it would be better about their own there of these, uh, hmm untold riches worried and distributed to people. it would be more to get, like this. oh well, you need to understand the peculiarity of the newsone channel. here the period was that it was a channel of oppositional power. and we, as journalists, even had the right to our opinion, had the right to voice it

, ask some, perhaps a difficult question with some such here. uh, you know, here's the intention somewhere here to prick the power, and then. of course, i was yuna, i condemn myself hot fu, but then rather, it was wrong decision and fear. e, the owner of the tv channel of one of the opposition politicians yevgeny muraev. so at that moment he wanted to successfully sell the tv channel and was very afraid that there would be none, yes, yes, but it was nadezhda, i, uh, thought you would say it or not, that it was a false understanding of the feeling of freedom of the opposition channel what can you prick? no, it turns out not, if this is not included in the plans of the property, unfortunately, yes, that is, you were then i was yuna and i was sincere and i know i'm in the past and i love this kind of healthy humor. i really

really wanted to play a joke, and so a little bit even with such sarcasm really, when a well- fed man is standing. uh, and he talks about kindness, i want to know such populism, which was already off scale, at that moment a general of the ukrainian army was sitting with me in the studio, and then for the first time he talked on air that the corruption of the ukrainian army is colossal and when e , the soldiers' guys have bulletproof vests full of holes, and then someone talks about the good that will save the country. well, really, this is cynicism. for me, it was. well, look, but zelensky became the undertaker, but poroshenko, who seemed to be a fiend of hell, after all. well, it was not only, like, yes, yes, that’s exactly how it came out, but still, you know, er poro. some experienced politician, he may be, he may be cunning, still

kind of wise. well, here is a professional and he understood that there is a public part of the profession, and there is a behind-the-scenes part. but zelensky and zelensky are not. zelensky unfortunately, because of his unprofessionalism. he was enchanted representatives of all kinds of western structures, and hmm, the special services can even be said so, which convinced him that the main problem was his and the reasons for the fall in the rating - it's not that his promise and reality were in fact absolutely different. and the fact that there are tv channels in the ukrainian information space that allow themselves to criticize it. and not even we as a journalist did it, but even invited guests or else to speak. uh, for the russian compromise he was talking about. i remember all the interviews and the election campaign, when in counterweight poroshenko who shouted. yes,

from every iron his calls for farewell to washed russia were heard zelensky was a peacemaker and then, of course, the ukrainian society was fascinated by him. again, the servant of the people. yes, the film series was extremely popular and people were already languishing from the war, because it is still such a wound that does not allow the state to develop normally. and, of course, when the gap between rich and poor only increases and people want to see their country healthy and it doesn't matter anymore. under what conditions, but it should develop, and therefore, be that as it may, no matter what neighbor is next to you. you have to be wise cunning and there has always been a possibility. ukraine's strength lies in being a connecting link, a bridge between west and east, not to build a state on slogans. we are good anti-russia. you can criticize, but you will lead by example. and so it's just a

shell, but in fact. it came out the way it came out and the problem is precisely in the unwillingness to conduct a dialogue. i always said that when will be exhausted. uh, all methods for this dialogue to communicate will be with the help of weapons. so it happened. uh, after the incident. that's your dismissal from newsone. uh, you switched to another opposition channel. e, 112 ukraine e. i. here's hmm the site in tv criticism wrote to you, then. new programs are on the air. nadezhda sas behaves rather modestly. and while he does not allow himself too much. you agree with the critics. you know, so i'll tell you. i hmm never wanted to be scandalous personality is a trail. eh, it’s rather not typical for me, because the person is internally modest, delicate, intelligent

and to me this scandalousness is never any. it will pour out. politicians. it did not go on the air at the best time, after all, evenings, saturdays, it is unlikely that you want to spend with me and on the sheets of international experts, of course, but still you know this, so i can tell you say, hmm i have a ukrainian technologist friend, he explained the popularity of the talk show, because at some point you know, in ukraine you don’t need any. why, the existence of the comedy club, or else it is enough to turn on a talk show to fly. it happened there sometimes. nadia people want to see. this is very crudely

said, but here is the quote. and hohlosrach is the word. it seems to me that he very clearly describes the content of ukrainian talk shows, because the country is really different and people had absolutely two polar approaches for quite a long time. which country do we want see in the future. and who is the hero for whom. and who is the enemy for whom is also important, and therefore it was not difficult to find two opponents, but even now i agree with me. colleagues from the stv channel agree. we don’t finish by quantity, therefore, in our studio you won’t see an abundance of guests, we focus on the fact that we need to give understandable information and it is important for the viewer to hear and analyze it and draw conclusions. it was easy for me to adapt to the agenda of the political economy, and belarus by the way an amazing team works with me. we generate ideas the process of creating a program.

you are always a discussion - it is always a healthy discussion, therefore, of course, and i can advise some of my colleagues on issues that concern other countries, they are already advising me directly on the situation in belarus. i will continue on your career path, after all, television. you said in an interview with our colleague that you fully supported the zelensky channel, which he closed, including 112 ukraine, about which you talked, but what happened in your opinion? why are your loyalty didn't work? do you understand the country? here she was waiting. she was waiting for this savior, the peacemaker, who would change her fate, and we, as people who came into contact with poroshenko at the head of state, saw that he was not at all

what citizens would like to see. rather , it is devastation and total corruption that contributed to it. crash in the future and therefore people expected that a new man would come, a man not from the system. you know, fresh breath, fresh blood. and behold, it was everyone's mistake, we believed we were all deceived and in in the future, of course, corruption has not gone away. despite the fact that a person came from business, a person is not poor and could build, that is, a system and recruit people into real professionals in various fields of activity, but again, such are his environment and, probably , lack of wisdom and understanding. who is actually a professional. and who do you know is sent for certain purposes, it played a cruel joke. look, he was for the world. e. here is the agenda. you said it worked and it worked because everyone wanted

settlement. yes, all conflicts continue to create and so on. and suddenly something changed, in your opinion, what happened, he made contact. with western politicians and he was convinced that only militant rhetoric. he can get results. unfortunately, at that moment, i can say that the russian federation chose the only person with whom they were ready to conduct a dialogue. this is viktor medvedchuk, a member of the opposition platform for life, and he was directly involved in the exchange of prisoners of war and for zelensky. it was very it is painful that he will have to conduct a dialogue with him in order to obtain the bringing of peace to the territory of ukraine. and you know, it's more likely like this. and here is the boyish reaction that if you become president

, everyone should come to you and they should talk to you and they should ask you. and then he realized that his main enemy, rather for the electorate, is a crazy platform for life, there is opposition and, uh, because of this , a war began. you said even before recording that he was then starting to lose rating. yes, and here it was necessary to take some interesting move. yes, this move was not long in coming. yes, we suddenly became irreconcilable. well, you understand, eh. well, that must have been completely unreasonable. why, again, such people open a criminal case against viktor medvedchuk. while we perfectly understand mine, this concerned a certain period of viktor medvedchuk's relationship. and petro poroshenko is someone poroshenko, uh, he feels great now, he has no problems. uh, some faggots were handing it, they saw how it all

happens, when there was a desire, it was all brought to an end, and in the case of poroshenko , a completely different game is like this, and then the media have already begun to be destroyed . and after that, you know, it's convenient when you shut everyone's mouths and kriti. it does not enter the ears, but it is very easy for ukrainians. and you know, to manipulate public opinion, but everyone knows very well that ukraine cannot exist in this situation. uh, she's the only player she needs support. and here is the question. ah, state sovereignty. here does the state that is being consulted have sovereignty, and in some e situations and fully fulfills all the requests of western curators. in my opinion. no, they removed the program. e your booth. deeply

pregnant, which convinces us that, well, television is really not an empty phrase for you. you love this job, and hmm, it's hard not to believe it here, but you were covering the u.s. elections at the time. yes for you , trump is biden, in general there were some personal preferences. i understand that it will not be easy for the united states of america now, in fact, a period in history , especially 2024, the year of choice, when already it is obvious that the biden team and he personally loses the support of american citizens, and then why did the democrat team try to beat trump and the republicans by the fact that we have the kremlin’s hand everywhere here let’s prove it, the mueller commission spent a crazy amount of money on this investigation. in the end. uh, some kind of involvement of a half-manafort or financing of the company by the russian federation. it was not proven in

the end he was accused of being there, as a colobist, some taxes, and half a manafort paid her further began witch hunt and essentially trump. all his election promises were extremely difficult to fulfill, because he constantly justified himself. although it seems to me that many russian experts said that the russian federation was generally interested in the victory of hillary clinton, for her this politician was absolutely understandable for the russian federation. yes, due to the fact that he, as it were, has been in this system for a long time. and sometimes, you know , it would be easier to declare some of your own interests. trump is not a system person, but this is hope, you know this rednecker of a simple american, because now i often hear my statement program america then america - this is what america wants. let's always focus on what america is - it's a deep state yes, in which the

heads of transnational corporations directly make key decisions , but such global capital is wall street. these are republicans. these are democrats. this is congress. this is directly the president, who is the country of which not one person makes the decision. this, i think, is already clear to everyone, the system is very difficult and since the globalists are now losing. they are ready to fight their weight by any means . and, unfortunately, the fighting in my native country is a disaster for ukrainian society for me as a ukrainian. but for the american system, this is again such a very successful model that allows you to make good money on it. uh, when we talk about america doing all this. we are somehow discarding the fact that here specifically refers to the figure of zelensky who could make such decisions could make other decisions. we always have

choice. true, politics had a moment. i remember april 2021. our tv channels have already been closed. we were all virtually out of work already and there was enough time to analyze what was happening in the world in general. and then everyone already perfectly understood what was happening on the borders with ukraine. what kind of military equipment, where is it present and then in may passed by yourself? this is the geneva summit, where vladimir putin and mr. biden met, it was the hope for peace in ukraine, that is, the fate of ukraine was in the hands of two man, and then there was a certain plan for interaction for six months, but unfortunately, what happened happened. and this, unfortunately, is a mistake by the ukrainian authorities, when the fate of the country was decided at the table, but they were not invited to the table. maybe

for zelensky this is also a kind of business plan for making money. i am destroying ukraine, it is difficult for me to talk about it , and rather, it will probably be incorrect. i don't know, i'm convinced he's human. from the creative sphere from this creative environment is conceited, it is important for him to support, of course, ukrainian society. he will get a lot of it now. it could be praised. there are already political ambitions. yes, what happened is a disaster and the fact that fathers bury children and watch how your usual life collapses. so, when we ended up in minsk, you know, i was a person who stands, uh, a cliff and looks at the fragments of a former life, and it seems to you that hmm, your familiar world collapsed. and then we only had

to thank god every day that we are alive and alive, my children will discuss hope how did you endure these challenges, and how do you continue remain optimistic, despite everything, we will interrupt for a while, i remind you, we have a telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe to ask questions. suggest guests we are in touch. on the air say again, don't be silent, and today our tv presenter nadezhda sas is our guest. nadezhda is another interesting fact from your biography. we would like to recall the internship in the european parliament. i really got back when i was studying for a master's program for an internship at the european parliament. i went through it in the office of the vice president, then richard chernetsky. this is an excellent base. yes, here it is for a journalist and just for a person who is connected with politics. and, because it is interesting for us to observe how

this whole bureaucratic system works, and i want to emphasize that it is not even european politicians who play the key role, but their staffers are their assistants, because this is the person who actually forms its agenda . this is the person you know, whom you can always find a window in his busy schedule to meet with him. and it was very informative for me, and soon, when i already became a tv presenter, when i already my career was being built, and after that they somehow already tried to destroy us precisely thanks to those of their acquaintances while still students. we were able to ensure that the destruction of ukrainian tv channels was postponed, because for hmm petro poroshenko, after all, and the statement of his european colleagues that this is contrary to european values, if the state wants to be part of the european

union for years this has been on the agenda of ukrainian society. generally. hmm need to listen to what exist and exist in europe i remember that i once had a meeting in london with john whittendale, and he is the politician of great britain zal yes, there were various dark pages in the history of relations between the uk and the russian federation, but no one would ever have thought to close this murashi today , or some other yes, here's a russian, but a russian mass media, so freedom of speech should also be about which tv channel to watch. about what no this right choice exists only for the viewer and votes. he is with using the tv remote control button. and yes, there were moments of wonderful interaction. i remember that a lot of britons, even before

britain left the european union, supported us in every possible way, and hmm, then we really, as journalists declared themselves. we came, made inclusion, organized round tables, tried to tell about ourselves and about the problems that we, as journalists, face in ukraine, and you know, it is very important that european politicians, especially now, are forced to say something other than what they whether they want to talk about what they think or to say something that essentially reflects the society, then the parties they represent, but there is a certain agenda and like it or not, but you follow and in this case, hear the share. truth from their lips. today is extremely difficult. by the way, recently. we used a quote from joseph parel, and he said that i was offended by the statement of my friends that the aggression from

russia happened as a result of the fact that nato did not keep its promise not to expand its eastern flag. it's all, maybe it was. but that's in the past. let's not talk about it. still, some truth. the truth came out of his mouth. yes, somehow he voiced it all a little specifically, but it's true and they don't want to admit mistakes, neither european nor american politicians. all the more surprising from you. nadya hear that there are european values ​​that are spreading in this case in ukraine, that the european parliament can save you. when you have some sort of political squabbles inside the country. do you think they really concerned about the situation in ukraine at that time, of course, we received support. when publicly european politicians dared to criticize the ukrainian authorities, and at that moment, again, we are not talking

about what is happening now, it was two or three years ago, then the opinion was a little different and there is also a third party from the european union, well in general , such an agenda was beneficial, let's support another one today. you just somehow still seem to me, a little stay true to some dreams or illusions about freedom of speech about these democratic values ​​are not at all. so i'm wondering in this vein, when he chooses , uh, this landmark, ukraine is, uh, what does she hope for? why is this european vector so important for ukraine well, or for you, let's say something for the whole country, you understand, and for us for tv channels that have been accused of being pro-russian. at least to the russian federation to get support. this would probably be the simplest and most unreasonable. and we beat, their own weapons, we received support

in the european union and the european parliament and we were supported by the kremlin agents about russian journalists about it, and you know this. it’s more likely not not about the ideals that were inherent in me or my colleagues, but about the fact that if we want to be part of europe, let’s still follow their rules, which are already , unfortunately, they are being destroyed are being destroyed, but at that moment it was still hope that after all freedom of speech is freedom of speech, it is important that it does not need to be destroyed. and then we got what we wanted, which is important. what do you think today, and how ukrainian society is shrouded in fear, and i want to talk about fear. fear of something not to say to be not that is, as i understand it, you are today? well, in general, a traitor. let's say it there. if you left, then, well, as

if for friends, you already cease to exist. there is such a moment, of course it appeared. and why? because there are some fierce bullying trollings there. why do people succumb to this fear of not being in the mainstream, this nationalist, but not even nationalist here. yes mainstream is easy rather than love for one's country. and when a country in trouble, the society decided that such an internal one, yes, it’s easy to mobilize, unfortunately , people who call for an end to this war. there are only one of them left. and unfortunately, we were lucky. we escaped, but we thought of each other, and now my women are suffering, and i know that many of my colleagues have left, and some have not. and , unfortunately, i do n’t know how their fate turned out, but now it’s natural if you appear, uh, in a public plane. yes, here on the

ukrainian tv channel, although it has already remained one closed the tv channels that belonged to petro poroshenko renat akhmetov. now we have the only freedom channel. here is the spoken word. one plus one we say. eh, obviously. this is still a rebroadcasting of a single agenda, yes, which is, which is rebroadcasting the approach of the ukrainian authorities. but if you say today that let's stop the war, because we are all pacifist humanists for some, we are defeatists. well, we believe that the main value is human life and to think need to talk about it first. we are in the 21st century everyone wants to live and enjoy life. and, of course , now in force. here you know. tonic shifts, when the old world order is collapsing , the immunopolar world, as i say on every

broadcast, sasha is an authorized applicant, he is also collapsing and the united states of america now does not want to reckon with the fact that there are other players on the world stage and china of the russian federation and this one a multipolar world is still being built, but the most tragic thing is that the battlefield is now the territory of ukraine if you come now to the ukrainian tv channel and say, we want to stop the war. you will be in cancer. yes, it can not be said now on the air, i do not see such daredevils. who would dare to do this , you understand, although naturally people are tired of this, people want to live. in the world, people want the authorities to find an opportunity to reach an agreement, and this also applies to european leaders who cannot dare to say this and think first of all about people, because it is extremely important, and the longer, we remain on

the sidelines. and the longer we are silent, the more people are suffering, the country is being destroyed, and therefore i hope that there will be enough wisdom for everyone to fight to the last ukrainian, but it seems to me that this is too much . you see, well, look. uh, those who are present in the information field are people who are already outside the territory of ukraine, these are people who can provide themselves with some kind of minimum. security, we hear their voices, we don't know what the people who are on the primorant zone, which are not present elementary water. they don't have food, they get some minimal help. nobody hears them. and it is unlikely that anyone will want to do this, so the agenda, the current rhetoric

, is present, which is present in ukrainian society. it comes from the lips of people who are in a slightly different situation of other security circumstances, at least regarding russophobia, about which we often hear clearly that in the official ukrainian mass media. this is russophobic rhetoric. she goes wild, but on a non-level level among ordinary ukrainians there is this hatred of the russians. it’s difficult for me now, uh, to analyze the mood in ukrainian society, because i’m not there now, but before the events of february 2022, the situation was. it wasn’t different, of course, you know, i really like to analyze how we got to such a life and when the minority, ah, who suddenly became the majority, if we are talking about values, yes, here is lgbt q +, and their approaches, they

began to take over the world and talk about it, probably every yes european politician and all they care about this, and it is still very important to understand how it happens that by protecting the minority we deprive the majority of our rights. and now in ukraine there is a similar situation. there were a minority. of course, representatives in the ukrainian parliament with nationalist ideas. it's just a question that they didn't enjoy the kind of support that already exists now in 2020. we, you probably know, did not manage to slide into a civil war. to beat this paphos is exactly what you are talking about, dehumanization, but at the same time around the twentieth year, you wrote in social networks, when you managed to turn into jackals, when well, someone wished your spouse to die, when they found out that he was ill with a coronavirus, here is such a question. why

do you think? ukraine well, you are swinging at these things easily. we remember that it starts from the fourteenth year. yes, all these revolutions. well, we are watching you. in general, that it is somehow with curiosity. this is genetic memory. these are features of the mentality. again, such it all rests on this noisy minority, which it infects others with malice and hatred. it is important not to succumb to this. i cannot understand how a person who does not share your political views can wish you death. and what kind of democracy? in childhood, what freedoms can be discussed? this is a great tragedy, and i can frankly tell you that it was very difficult for people who do not consider themselves traitors to the motherland but believed that ukraine lacks the wisdom to build

healthy relations with its neighbors, suddenly we became enemies and we need to wish you know what kind of curse there - that's really scary. it's hard for me to understand how you know the legs grow. you don’t know, maybe this is competent work, after all, people today are deprived of informational hygiene of political strategists. they are very easy to manipulate to manipulate people, it turned out to be easier than to induce some kind of emotions from this. this courage, yes, they are much easier to manage, and as a candidate for deputy of the dnepropetrovsk regional council from the party opposition platform for life e, in 2020 you met with residents of the modular town for idps from donbass and told them. i want my children to grow up, learn and be happy in ukraine yes, i really really wanted this. why did the deputy career not work out, because i became a mother and at

some point, of course, you know, i am a very active person who loves not to sit idly by. i rather e overestimated my capabilities and at the moment when i had a choice, but to devote myself to work or motherhood. i made a choice favor swearing about it i regretted. and it seems to me, hope, that this is my opinion, what you have there. here you go this is diversity, which was welcomed in party life, among other things, but zelensky’s example, as it were, said that it’s all easy to go from a tv presenter to deputies, and then become president. but it's possible in ukraine. i don't think so. everything is easy in this world. everything is possible, besides this, ah, i must say that everyone should mind their own business, that i went to the deputies. it's more like a desire to draw attention to my hometown

, because i'm from the city, dneprodzerzhinsk and i met with the residents of dneprodzerzhinsk with entrepreneurs, and i was ready to help, because back in soviet times, the city that, a was so important, yes, in principle, for the infrastructure for the metallurgical future. countries died every year. and it 's rather my decision to pay attention to it. we discuss very often after the events of the 20th year in belarus whether a multi-party system is needed, different opinions, on this score, but here is what you are today from the height of your ukrainian experience. would you say this one the diversity of the parties that lead these parties, and the oligarchy that contains these guys, how does it affect the political landscape in general in the country

? only a certain half of society. he froze all the projects that existed before that, destroyed them, was engaged in others, then again the change of power and the country never set a goal to implement a single model successful future of the country. each one came and destroyed what had been built by the predecessors. and this, unfortunately, is the problem in belarus, the system is completely different. i'd rather you know, i could say that uh hmm lacks initiative. among the representatives, but the authorities, because there is a key figure, who is the initiator of the country's engine. and this is obvious to everyone. but i would, of course, like those people who obey too.

have the courage to come up with fresh ideas because 2020 was the year of shocks for belarus and belarus exposed it survived, and i am very sorry to hear from the lips, er, belarusians with whom i spoke, that you have a country with such diversity. so, as you say, you had this and that and such a president, and this president and a danetsky from western ukraine , and this is a showman. well, how great! well, i can’t say that it’s great now, it’s not great for anyone at all, and unfortunately, if in 2020 the situation turned around, otherwise i don’t think that belarusians today would have, but had what built over many years. you understand after the collapse of the soviet union in the ninety-first year, all the participants. yes, this is a big empire, let's call it that, they got about one and already the legacy of the soviet union

was colossal, only the question is that belarus preserved and increased it, and ukraine lost everything. and why are these your oligarchs, and they are not able to negotiate even among themselves okay they cannot agree with putin, but they cannot agree on the fate of their country among themselves this is a lack of trust trust in a friend trust each other. and, of course, and even you know the desire. to outwit someone to snatch varnish and a piece. you know, this rivalry is unhealthy, it worked. evil. the joke was not the goal in the name of the state exclusively selfishly. the interests of each pursued and that's it see they were insatiable. i agree there in the nineties in the zero. well, when you should have come the moment when you finally need to build, the

more you want. yes, this moment the appetite is growing. while eating, there must still be a certain amount of time when hmm i i hope many players of today's processes. but you know, the awakening of conscience will work on the mistakes and from such a generous hospitable country. we have turned into a state that crumbles and suffers every day. let's take a moment. let's take a break. after a short pause. let's continue our interesting conversation, while subscribe subscribe to our telegram channel, it's called say don't be silent, and look for all our releases on the youtube channel, belarus is one. on the air, say, do not be silent, and we have a journalist visiting us. hope sass. hope not quite, understandably. why do you need television when you watch your instagram and listen to your photos? how are you with children? oh i'll call you. i'm

in the circus, my daughter wanted to go to the circus and so on. well, it's warm, it just comes from you, from uh, from your motherhood, from your children. tell me here in this scheme, in general, show business, politics, television and so on is a tricky question. hey, i can tell you, first of all, a woman must be accomplished, uh, a woman. uh, well, in fact, she owes nothing to anyone, but if we are talking about my model, and when a person lives by what he likes to live his job, he is a professional in his field. he looks at the world in a completely different way in my cardinate system. ah, housewife. well, that's probably, uh, a losing woman. i want to work and change the world for the better to change the world for the better the world for the better, of course, and you know, when a mom is busy with a business that inspires her, it's completely different. mom children.

for me, this is a breather. i never understood the supporters of the chalta movement. i am very happy that god blessed, and i became the mother of two children, a daughter, and a son, and my children. now they are no less self-sufficient than i, everyone has their own active daily routine, so we meet at home in the evening, tell each other, and do you feel safe with your impressions in belarus? yes, i feel safe and glad that i met so many hospitable people who extended a helping hand, and you know, i was talking about the fact that when you look at the fragments of your former life at this moment, the main thing is not to despair, it is important, but to stay a person who does not lose faith in himself and i believe in the best at this moment, the universe still sends you signs. i understood that

i wanted to return to the profession. well, you would have sent vitaya a resume on tv channels. the presenter of the author's project has just arrived. do you know? it's the same wait leading. i agree. i agree that i grew up and discovered myself that way. and i met, uh, with the leadership of the stv channel and they told me, firstly, my work was appreciated and which was in a past life. yes, if i may say so, and i was offered to make a high-quality intellectual product and world politics. and here we have something like this here is a kind of synergy with the team. and now i am glad to see the result of our work. i am glad to see the grateful responses of the audience ratings, but they say a lot, and we have something to surprise the audience with. well, we were also pleased, that is, we heard that you are a really literate

person and understand what you are talking about, but uh, tell me to return to kiev sooner or later, i would like to go to mirny kiev, of course, but today i’m here already said in one of the interviews that my slogan of today is yes seize the moment dem, so i live for today and honestly, i advise all of us to do it, because life is so fleeting. and now, if earlier we had some grandiose plans. we knew that we want to do this in 5 years, in 10 years, where we want to live. we naturally thought. and what will i leave behind there, what kind of real estate will my children have today, unfortunately, we should enjoy thanking fate for seeing this sun, this sky for opening our eyes. we have healthy ones nearby. children. it's important to be grateful love that life and try not to lose the humanity of the human face. uh, i want this to be an

era of mercy after such terrible upheavals and the planet. the earth will continue to shake difficult periods in different parts of it for a very long time. and you know, even recently they talked about a powder keg. and europe a. this conflict is unresolved, and we see that many players. well, let's not even go far. here is a specific player. here is the hegemon who can not say goodbye to this status, and he will still find these weak vulnerabilities in different parts of the world. yes, really, let's not relax. they open the map. they see europe resisting. they're moving into mexico, which is, you know, i ca n't understand how europe is in this crazy difficult situation, watching inflation after the crash. you know that habitual, here is the ideal image of the model

of existence. yes, that's the best way of life, from which we all once yes, to europe yes, where do you want to fly? naturally, there is somewhere else in paris. well, you know, everyone had more there, probably, in soviet times, some illusions. now these illusions are completely destroyed. god forbid europe survive. to spend the winter and the question is that now european society cannot speak about its personal interests and ask the heads of certain states to think about these personal interests. i like the answer such that there is no longer a caliber of large politicians. that is , this is the european parliament, which is the last, yes, here is the last oh, look how you me. about whether i yes, here, indeed, he began to supply the last decade of some kind of in general, not impressive. now we are already remembering angela merkel as just such an incredible woman. yes, with the rest of the eggs

to agree, finally, because it's already a dead end. well, as if we are already pinning our hopes on it. well, come already and solve the problem, because you won’t really see it here. ah. here you are as a person, you even have a degree. yes, master of international law you are on this war on this conflict between russia and ukraine , which, well, for sure, we are most concerned about, but today, ah. how much time do you give? when do you think this stop in the next 2 years? i think this situation will be done thank you very much for your openness. your competence is your smile and well, for the warmth that you gave us and we tatyana shcherbina victoria popova today we say goodbye, goodbye. goodbye. and now he says, nadezhda sas dear viewers, the global agenda forces us to be active, not to be indifferent , to be able to find interesting information

, analyze it, draw a conclusion and the world is more interesting than you think, and we will prove it to you. and, of course, it is important to understand that everything that happens on the globe. today resonates and affects each of us. i wish everyone the fortitude of wisdom and strength to go through difficult trials.

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