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i would like to note that the eco-marathon in the frunzensky district of the capital united not only city services , minsk residents themselves join the improvement. yes, labor collectives apply. so it’s easier for them to somehow organize themselves, they contact shopping centers , people participate, colleges, students are very active, we create beauty and comfort in our city. today, in total, this fall along the stolichnoye moscow ring road, landscapers will plant 10,000 trees, mostly spruce trees, they are the most resistant to environmental influences. entourage views about 80,000 ornamental shrubs will also be added along the road. new information. at my colleagues at 15:00 on our air. all the best. vitaly cut his hand on the evening before the robbery, hardly a lot of people.
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right now, the program sasha is on the air is authorized to declare. i'm the host nadezhda sas i welcome you. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening in the world and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of each of the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. we will tell you right now. the white house announced that president biden will reconsider relations with saudi arabia after it did not succumb to pressure from washington and in within the framework of the cartel of strange oil starters, opec agreed to cut production. the united states saw this as a joint game between air riad and moscow against the interests of western countries. in response, the united states may refuse to supply arms to saudi arabia the organization of american states at
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the fifty-second assembly in lima, it issued a resolution condemning russia's hostilities in ukraine, it was not supported by the three largest countries in latin america mexico brazil and argentina, this was an unpleasant surprise for washington used to consider the western hemisphere as its backyard, where the situation as a whole is under control. at a meeting of nato defense ministers in brussels, it was decided that next week the alliance will conduct a large-scale exercise of deterrence forces, including units equipped with nuclear weapons in nato, they talk about the planned nature of these events, but in the current tense international situation, such exercises will clearly contribute to further escalation . in addition, the ministers of defense of the countries the alliance discussed ways to increase the production of weapons and ammunition, as well as support for a permanent grouping in the
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baltic sea, recently increased from 15 to 30 ships. the roman military historian flavi vegetse wrote who wants peace. let him prepare for war, who wants to win let him diligently train the warriors. whoever wants to get a favorable result, let him wage war, relying on art and knowledge, and not by chance, no one dares to challenge and insult someone who he knows that in battle, he will be stronger than he is 2,000 years old. after these words , humanity has not lost its rightness until it has learned to live without conflicts. and although the anthem of belarus begins with the words we are peaceful people in another song with a similar first line, in the second it says, but our armored train is on the western route and about the threats that belarus now faces in the military-political sphere. and how strange it is preparing to answer them
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alexey avdonin, an analyst at the belarusian institute for strategic studies, will take part in our discussion. kind evening oleg was chairman of the standing committee on national security of the house of representatives of the national assembly of belarus, i welcome you and nikolai mezhevich. director of the center for belarusian studies at the european institute of the russian academy of sciences. thank you very much for being with us today, i would like to start our discussion with blitz millet. do you agree with the roman maxim. if you want peace, prepare for war, nikolai maratovich. let's start with you. in fact, rome waged wars that can not always be called fair, but with this maxim, you can agree as soon as rome ceased to be ready for war conflicts external conflict internal. let's not forget about it when we are gone. so, yes, oleg lekich , your opinion, please, thank you, waged
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war. they were a little different now , the transience of the events taking place is changing much faster than at that time, therefore, probably, this phrase would not have sounded correctly. if you want peace, be prepared for war. you must be ready for this all the time, because any state that borders on you having a military already poses risks and challenges. and as now, the threats to national security to sovereignty and territorial integrity are the topic, e war and the theme of peace, it is, in principle, philosophical e, approaches, and it is important to realize that e always war is connected with economic interests, therefore, whenever we talk about e war about peace, we are talking first of all about the fact that those countries that are waging war strive for they can achieve their economic goals
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in different ways, or negotiate with partners, or by military means to conquer certain resources, don't you have the feeling that we are starting to fall into the komarovich new arms race? how were you answered? it's not a matter of feeling. this is a question of economic statistics. uh, the answer is clearly the only possibility. yes it happens the question is different. and who will break first in this game? i think it will be us. who do you think will break now is the redistribution of spheres of influence? if earlier after the collapse of the soviet union the warsaw pact there was 1 hegemon who believed that she had national interests everywhere, he told everyone how to live, according to what rules the hegemon had to say goodbye to his status, and now, of course, they are very reluctant to
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say goodbye to this status. to do this, they are trying to destroy europe, to belittle the status or to deplete the russian federation, to remove it from the arena. china and so on. they are many that the targets are using here, which i would like to add in the coming weeks, france will increase its military presence on the eastern flank nato, having deployed additional personnel and armored equipment, will send a company to romania, reinforced with infantry fighting vehicles, as well as units of eclair tanks, rafael fighters will be sent to lithuania, and a company of light infantry will arrive in estonia and indeed about strengthening the eastern flank of nato and the joint response. republics of belarus and the russian federation in more detail in our story, nato forces are drawn to the east . massive movements of the american military and special equipment are recorded in poland and other countries on this inquis gold. nato increased its war presence, especially in the eastern part of the alliance, in order to eliminate any
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opportunities for miscalculation and misunderstanding in moscow, the number of us military bases in poland does not stop growing. so, at the zagan training ground near the polish city , the construction of another american military base began with vintosh, and the construction of two more military facilities is planned for the deployment of nato military personnel in cities. shiben ibn stronge, the answer to the threats is to strengthen the polish army, building the polish army, we are doing this, increasing numerically polish army and creating a new unit, equipping the army with modern weapons. first of all, the soldiers of the xviii mechanized division of the iron division train here, this motto exists for 4 years, its goal is to ensure security in the east of our country, however, before strengthening the eastern flank of nato, it is necessary to replenish military supplies. after all, they have significantly decreased due to large-scale deliveries to ukraine. i think that putin is going to settle the dispute in ukraine on
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terms acceptable to russia, which we may not please, but besides poland, no one in nato is interested in a war with russia if we continue to adhere to this line. we will see how nato will simply fall apart and the situation around belarus will disappear, and the situation around belarus will remain a tense threat. at the same time with moscow , unofficial channels fly towards minsk. as far as it was, perhaps we were warned about strikes against belarus from the territory of ukraine. well, as it was announced, we will make it so that it will be the crimean bridge. 2 crimean bridge, they will seem like flowers. there is only they touch their citizens with their hands at least one meter. territory god forbid some of them dare? to twitch in the direction of belarus is the main goal of the west to draw belarus into a war, but these plans have long been
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unraveled by the blade of minsk in the sheath, but only as long as the territory and people of belarus are safe. our plans are plans in case they attack us. if at least one meter of belarusian land is subjected to aggression, as was said, the response to the commander-in-chief will be instant and harsh, so we once again warn against provocations. you don't want war with us. we do not want it either. the armed forces of the republic of belarus will do everything to ensure security. when this is over, perhaps, this question is heard more often than others, if high-quality mobilization is carried out, if it is saturated with russian equipment. if there are modern models of weapons, if the whole complex of experience in command and control
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of troops that the russian federation has is applied, then, of course. this will be a turning point. from december to february, according to our calculations. before recently, states such as poland and the baltic states have been perceived as puppets in their hands. west i think you will agree with me, but don't you get the impression that right now they are the main skirmishers, skaladians, nikolai marathons. you are absolutely right. uh, the classic formula is considered. e that the dog is its tail is it absolutely? and what we are seeing now, uh, first of all and most closely i follow estonia for a whole number of personal reasons, and here it’s not even a tail, but uh, five or six of some curly hairs. on e. this tail is trying to wag, everything is dog-like, but this is not so bad. the
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funny thing is that they do it. estonia , which has its own, well, really its own military forces, in general, no, yes, but they do, but they are successfully selling the russian threat in the case of lithuania to the russian belarusian threat, which is buyers even in distant portugal not to mention france what we just saw. yes? aleksey really has associations with the legendary film the tail wags the dog, its main idea is certainly present. what do you think perhaps the leadership of nato is beneficial to have such skirmishers, looking at which one can safely say, but it's not us. here, in fact . there is a state that asks us for help in the 1990s for nato, the most important problem was its relevance now. e, when, in principle, the threat is such an imaginary threat from russia, belarus is already, but it has entered
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life, yes, it has entered into being. by possible means will support e and this idea, because in this way the very structure of nato can justify its existence, and everyone will talk about what is necessary, and in the baltin countries among the countries, to sharpen the weapons of military equipment in poland and the threat is real, because they are all the same stoltenberg. all the rest receive salaries from funds allocated from nato countries. yes , i would like you and i to pay attention to our map now. this is how the eastern flank of nato looks like and we can draw yes a virtual vertical line and understand what is happening in this part of the world the confrontation between the west and the east, the territory of ukraine in the current situation is a battlefield, but we are well aware that nato and the
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territory of belarus, the russian federation, and some got too close. how would you describe this picture, because it is natural for the leaders of many states, especially eurasia cause concern. it is clear that the republic of belarus is an outpost of the union state. we have 1,500 km of state border with nato countries and this is lithuania poland latvia and a thousand 84 km the border with ukraine, which already also poses a certain danger to us, but pay attention, neither the republic of belarus nor the russian federation has ever told anyone that they want to attack the baltic countries on the same poland and this is russophobia hysteria, which is now flourishing there, it is already like what is the fifth frame, it is in the minds and brains and
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it is becoming popular, that is, these manipulations, but the people of these countries are already well aware that no one wants to fight with them. so why? if there is no threat from us we have never told anyone our president always says we are a peaceful country. we are ready to provide a platform. we are against the war, our national interests do not go beyond the borders of the territory of the republic of belarus, we have no territorial claims to any of the states that bordered on us. why are bases created? why are nato troops pulling up here, everyone in this situation uses their own thanks to the great interest of estonia latvia lithuania poland in the deployment of military contingents. she may be economically i specifically wanted it on this so wants in the late forties. uh, in iceland the questions of the american bases of the icelanders were discussed. they wanted to ask them, then from the
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country the americans put their data on the table and it turned out that one soldier of the naval forces and the air force of the united states of america gives five and a half jobs, given the population of iceland, the government. uh, this country said, excuse me, we were joking, what am i talking about and what is here, of course there are economic factors. the same estonia with one the parties pay nato the other side receives guaranteed and well-paid jobs . this is the economic part, but it is not the only one, it should be noted that in most of these countries. well, strange as it may seem, even in bulgaria, even in slovakia. and in recent decades, the bet on hmm accusing russia and belarus of all sins has become the norm of political culture. here the morning begins not with coffee, but with moscow's accusations but if we take warsaw and confidence, then sob with
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minsk moscow's accusations then the bone, then everything else and indeed, based on the current state of affairs in the region. i would like us to pay attention to the statement of the president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko , let's listen to the aggravation on the western borders of the union state. we have agreed to deploy a regional group. the russian federation and the republic of belarus, this is all according to our documents. if the level of threat reaches the current level, as we are now starting to use the grouping of the union state. in addition, very important is the statement of alexander lukashenko on the sidelines of the summit in astana that belarus can not ignore the current situation , the time has come to unite efforts, alexei
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tell me, please, will you find a response, and hmm representatives of eurasia yes, alexander grigoryevich from their side. we must once again recall that the idea of ​​the csto is the idea of ​​a unified security system for the countries of the eurasian continent. she comes out. uh, where does the understanding come from that if we are separate, then we will, uh, one by one, fall apart very much at the beginning economically, and then a through various informational psychological operations. yes, and in the future, our territories may fall under the influence of the collective west, therefore, the countries of eurasia, each country behind the dkb understands perfectly well that there are two ways of development, either we develop independently, while maintaining our sovereignty of
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our state, or we become vassal states of the collective the west is now before our eyes, in fact, a completely new course of history is developing. and who will win depends, of course, on us from everyone. and here are those who make the decision and from our citizens. you know it's very interesting to watch as it comes from the lips of european bureaucrats. there is an opportunity to hear the words of truth. i am not satisfied with the reasoning and arguments by which many, including my friends, justify russia's aggression by the fact that nato did not fulfill the promise, perhaps this was, perhaps it was a deception. but this is history , it's not worth remembering. what an advantageous position is possible, but it was already so long ago that we will not remember about it. although we will remember this and focus
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on this, because nato really did not fulfill its promise nikolai well, the classic western position. maybe i burned down, uh, nursing home and poisoned it. uh, the well at the kindergarten. but that was a long time ago. let's not remember this. oh, and i think that he spoke absolutely sincerely, moreover, he spoke, er, being sure that he was right about this, and now modern europe is characterized by two. well, such main features, firstly, such a position, it is a common and second, in contrast to the fifties, sixties, seventies and even eighties, there is no alternative position. the alternative position is political and partial economic death. for any politician of the european union yes, i would say even more than the whole of europe but by the way, it is important to constantly point out the
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causal relationship. otherwise, we will live in a completely different reality. oleg alekseevich unfortunately, mr. barel was not lucky at the time when he participated. perhaps i served. i perfectly i remember all the agreements that were then. not the expansion of nato to the east, not the inclusion of new countries, not the deployment of bases, and so on , 20 years have passed, all the agreements have been forgotten, and we are back and you have already said and those present here today are entering a new arms race and again began to be afraid. no, tell me, please, what do you think, how much will this gulf that exists between the moods of the european society and between the statements of european politicians widen, because sooner or later patience will end and possibly europe faced with a wave of protest. perhaps even revolutions, in order to understand europe one
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must count their classics. e after the first world war. and that's before the second world war. yes, erich maria remarque everything is fully stated there, it just says what about the fact that this pool was formed, huh? fitiks, who were trained in the united states of america at the soros foundations, and they speak the words that were developed by the think tanks of the united states of america, but these politicians absolutely do not reflect the interests european citizens and most importantly does not reflect the interests of european capital. and here, namely on e. the junction of this resistance of some others will most likely occur, and a fracture will either begin. uh, mass protests in europe itself either, but these protests will not be funded by the americans. yes, they will have no political strategists from the english channel, but will be
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financed by local capital. they will be interested in removing brussels , removing this frost and with them yes , the so-called eurofascists a and that's all reflected, here in this old classic. those, everything is stated there, therefore, well, you can feel sorry for these poor european politicians, because either they will be pulled up, or they will be sent to court, but nikolai maratovich. at one time, official prague refused to the united states. america in their intention to place elements of anti-missile defense on the territory of the country. yes, we remember that in 1999 it was the czech republic and poland that simultaneously entered into an alliance, and then the main argument was fears about targeting the russian nuclear weapons. to what extent do you think the czech government is aware of the risks to the security of the czech republic simply from tensions
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between russia and nato today? it is necessary to take into account the totality of russia's relations in any name of it. yes, and the czech republic dash czechoslovakia, uh, on the czech lands, back in the days of the austro-hungarian empire, slavophile sentiments were very, very strong mood in support of the then capital of st. petersburg and we read yaroslav gashik the adventures of the good soldier schweik everything is there, yes, but in the interwar period. e czech dash slovakia so recorded in russian was one of the two or three remaining democratic countries, which, however, gave itself to hitler almost without resistance after it was decided by england and france a. moscow offered help. the czech republic was forced to refuse it, but
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here is the degree of compulsion so far. it is a subject of discussion after the war that the left mood in czechoslovakia was very, very strong, not that they loved the communists in their purest form, but the left social democratic mood took place and it was fine. remember who freed prague yes, but they liberated prague of course , soviet troops and only in the far west karls bad, the current karlovy vary hmm , were liberated by the americans, and then there was a difficult moment in our history in the sixty-eighth year, but in general, it was also largely overcome and at the turn of the 1990s, it seemed that relations from bratislava to prague, that is, with two parts of the czechoslovak state , would be normal. and what you said about, it was still a manifestation, then at some stage the americans finished off the normality of the local elite and forced them to reorient themselves from
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the czech national interests. yes, for the americans, this is the problem of modern europe that the german national interests are no longer protected, the german government, there was no such government in german history before germany. these were the prussian national interests. now no one is protecting them. yes? since we are talking about moods in europe, we are now proposing to connect the czech politician, leader of the communist party of the czech republic moravia josef skala, to our air, mr. skala good evening the current government of the czech republic today takes the same radical anti-russian position as the leadership of poland and lithuania, but it is important to remember that before prague pursued a much softer course. and that's how tough the steps of the current leadership resonate in czech society. say please speeches you
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may have noticed that just weeks have passed very moscow to receive the very center of the city with about 150.000 participants in both cases. this, of course, is an event wide across the district of social and political forces on the left to the right, that is, a patriotic demo czech that is, one part of you understand that the whole
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course is very like in terms of. we can run out of gas. what is the crisis about him and, of course, also from the point of view. if there is a danger, what if e, then it screams for the first time, it means that according to history we want to fight. of course, it is very dangerous and please tell me, but now the leadership of the czech republic is ready to hear the opinion of its own czech society. and it is even possible, if this desire exists, whether the leadership of nato will allow it to be fulfilled. but you asked very reasonable correct questions. how much? leadership, so to speak , broadcast on the lyh and all sorts of associations
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to allow a pure government to behave, uh, in the interests of the human history of the human people. well, excuse me, there are other countries, for example, in hungary rybak is a man of a completely different worldview than i am right and left, but he is ready to fight for the key national interests of his country, could say more boldly boldly than any of the leaders of our country. thank you very much alexei please tell me, really. we can to be grateful to the gentleman said for his courage, because such politicians who are ready to really call truth are actually few, but perhaps there will be a certain interaction between them and this group of brave politicians will increase. what do you think, do you know the soil? e people cannot be deceived by history, e
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traitors in the form of the current leadership of the same e-e european commission of national governments, they are traitors, traitors to their peoples, they
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cannot deceive history. this is the most important thing, yes mr. rock and please tell me, here, as you personally, perhaps your supporters, your entourage, perceive the rather loud and aggressive statements of the president of poland andrzej duda and, again, such ministers of defense of poland, because it seems that the leader of the polish state has a keen desire to enter into an open confrontation with the republic of belarus of the russian federation this is dangerous and how is it perceived? how shameful and shameful it was to be freed from the nazi genocide. over 600,000 soviet soldiers got their lives for liberation
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this fact should lead to a more sober balanced reasonable moral desire or more characteristic behavior of what is happening on the part of the japanese leadership. it's well, i don't know what other words and this, of course, poses a danger to us too, if our christ will not be driven into the war in the east direction. this is a complete contradiction with all the interests of ninety- nine percent, and the benefits from this can only be, individual careers, careers, somewhere in the hands of a czech politician for a couple of years for participating in our program. reminder on air the sas program is authorized to declare in the development of the
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international situation around belarus put on the forefront of strengthening the defense capability of the republic and the main steps in this direction in our story , we are watching the defense forces of the republic of belarus this year carry out an unprecedented number of measures to increase combat readiness. last month. the belarusian military contingents tested themselves in kazakhstan in a joint exercise with the collective rapid reaction forces of the csto interaction 2022. there is also a search with an emphasis on reconnaissance and echelon logistics exercises are regularly held and joint exercises with russia's allied resolve this year. during the event, tactical episodes were played out with the participation of rocket airborne troops, artillery and aviation. russian weapons were also checked there. and during the february exercises, the iskanders proved to be excellent, the iskander-m missile systems, in
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particular, can use both ballistic and cruise missiles, both in conventional and nuclear versions, officially the named flight range of these missiles is up to 500 km. however. not only the cadre army is ready to defend the country. if necessary, one of the effective ways to ensure military security is the creation of territorial defense, which belarus took up 20 years ago, territorial defense is a set of measures designed to protect the population of objects and communications. it is not part of the armed forces of the country. often their association is called the partisans of all such centers in belarus, the territorial defense. seven according to the number of regions and minsk, they are headed not by the military, but by the governors and chairmen of the minsk city executive committee, who during this time have become bosses for 25. there are so many conscripts trained during training sessions in belarus and each of them will be able
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to protect objects in their small homeland, but this is only in the event of mobilization during a military threat or unleashing aggression against the country, and in peacetime again training and exercises so as not to lose skills. alekseevich fighting on the territory of ukraine already they allow military experts to draw certain conclusions about the priorities for modern armies. and, for example, it is clear that unmanned aerial vehicles, both reconnaissance and strike, now play a huge role on the battlefield, as things are in the belarusian army with unmanned aerial vehicles. well, first of all, the less military experts will interfere now with the conduct of a special operation of the russian armed forces in ukraine, the better will be the fighting . secondly, unmanned aircraft have already been for
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quite a long period of time given considerable attention. not only in western countries, including in the republic of belarus, it can be somewhere according to some parameters. today we are losing. e is in its own production, but for this there is the russian federation, there is china, which you now see iranian drones. they show themselves quite well during this operation, and therefore the necessary forces and means that we had to acquire, and in the future it will be in each company an unmanned aerial vehicle for conducting reconnaissance and coordination of defeating it . well, of course, for example, the purchase of attack drones was going to be a plague. yes , nikolai maratovich. well, here we are, in fact, observing the situation in ukraine, we can, but analyze how nato is still fighting and opposing the russian federation by
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how, in part, the ukrainian military are trained, uh, nato equipment is present, and in this conflict. this is the main difference in order to explain the introduction approaches a little to our viewer. military operations, i still would not agree, but nato now they are not directly involved, uh, in the military conflict, but nato equipment is taking part, but basically, not in nato hands, the second moment, the military ukraine who have been retrained in nato countries take part in the military conflict, but they still remain ukrainian military , this, well, i i would say so, but other people who have not absorbed the relevant military regulations of nato well, uh, junior lieutenant what
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is called hmm but moments, yes, and therefore, draw some conclusions about the potential for conflict the potential, uh, result and outcome of a possible conflict with nato is meaningless so far. and one more thing, of course , a significant part of the national battalions and the armed forces, but are sufficiently motivated soldiers, and then the question is, to what extent can the portuguese be considered motivated? soldiers on the belarusian border, for example let's suppose they even ended up there. how to explain to them that the national interests of portugal are tied to helping poland commit aggression against western belarus, you know, i think that this still inexplicable. i understand that the germans
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can still be somehow forced to remember, so to speak. what did grandpa great grandpa do there, but uh, the portuguese definitely don't, and that's why. um, in fact, why such a reaction from nato, they are not sure of their own solidity to sell or give away a howitzer. this is one story, but to fight with a ground contingent. i think it's a different story after all and hmm i don't see it yet. eh, in order to start such a war, i do not agree with that opinion. the first presence of nato there in person. this is an instructor, who work there train ukrainian military personnel not only in poland, there in great britain or somewhere in germany and so on, nato instructors are present there and conduct classes, and they were initially after the maidan and their number is quite large, the second. the very
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supply of ammunition armament equipment. it already is, but open confrontation. they don't want to do it. why ukraine is not a bloc state now. she even withdrew from the union of the commonwealth of independent states. she doesn't a member of the european union, poland is already a member of nato and a member of the european union, and now these outbursts of poland are already outbursts of nato. i’m not sure that mr. duda, waking up in the morning, begins with threats from the republic of belarus there are long-standing contradictions between them and germany, so the likelihood of how much nato decides or not will depend on many factors, i agree with the statement. in my opinion. yes, here you can agree with many statements, moreover, uh, if to consider within nato
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a relatively motivated country to create problems, and for minsk for moscow, then this is certainly more, but the poles, as usual, are trying to simultaneously create problems for both moscow and berlin. and in the previous historical stage it ended very badly. yes, i would like us to turn our attention to a map of poland itself and the us and nato military bases that are located on its territory, and at the same time their number. it grows every month and therefore it is absolutely understandable the concern that sounds from lips, but the president of the republic of belarus and not even concern, but determination to protect the interests of their state. and so. oh, by the way, it is very important for alexei to note that even now even the us military is beginning to have a clear understanding. who is the god of war? yes, artillery, which
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was precisely the moment when they perceived with skepticism ah, the remnants, yes, here's another, that is, the soviet army, these reserves, which now play a key role during the military operations on the territory of ukraine how are you now uh , characterize in general, and readiness mobility and the belarusian army? you know, here, perhaps, it should be said in a slightly different way. yes, there is no need to reveal there the possibilities of the secret of our armed forces let them yourself, er, military intelligence. uh, the states of america is doing research. yes our task is a concept. uh, why, uh, such huge bases, yes, with the armament of military equipment by people, but it is located in uh, in eastern europe, and this is already a base not only in poland, but it ’s completely along this line that we saw earlier, but the fucking baltics of poland and
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then to the black sea. and we must be aware of the most key americans. they are extremely pragmatic. they don't do anything. for the sake of ideas, they do everything for the sake of money, a-a model, but a military presence. it is purely economic in nature. and why? because more than 50% of the us gdp is formed by the war industrial complex, the more wars, the more conflicts, the more some imaginary threats, the more bases, the americans, the more civilians they will work placing american bases. uh, well, the americans have their bases all over the world. they are thus. e give an opportunity work for a simple civilian in the united states and but for the americans. uh, being pragmatic. yes, and realizing that, for example, the transition from a certain state of confrontation to a state of war.
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this is also a business. yes, that is, when they went into a state of war on the territory of ukraine, what they do, they supply mass. it's a weapon and everybody clap. uh, they show uh, the capabilities of american weapons, but no one asks. who will pay for it. and who pays for it, of course. and yes, because the americans just don’t substitute. pra pays, but ukrainian the budget, yes, or the ukrainian budget is paid by the taxpayer, who is there. and most importantly, uh, you look at what they paid for with grain, they paid correctly, uh, put on that they will take out gas oil uh, fertile land. well, they didn’t take it out, but there’s not enough grain for all these weapons to pay either, which means that they will be asked to withdraw something else. yes, so for them it is a simple business for us. uh, understanding that this is uh a disaster. yes, this is a disaster on our southern
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neighbor. she, uh, should. in the end, e will end in our victory, because these are the interests of others. this is someone else's business. this business must end. yes nikolaevich and tell me, please, how would you generally characterize the united states of america as an ally, because of the experience in afghanistan and if we extrapolate, that departure is shameful, it can be safely called the situation with ukraine from afghanistan, perhaps a similar story, waiting for her before leaving afghanistan , the shameful departure was a shameful departure from at least five or six states, well, in this series, you can remember south vietnam, from where the evacuation was very reminiscent of the evacuation from afghanistan mm. uh, union of allies. they will fight in the event that this struggle is not associated with risks for themselves, that is, relatively speaking, they won’t
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give it away just like that. take care of your village on arizuyuschie. and tallinn will be thrown away as an unnecessary card, which, well, this picture, in my opinion, is a masterpiece. i wanted to draw the attention of the polish embassy to the fact that, uh, the new borders of germany if they are restored along the line before world war ii will mean that uh half of these military bases will go to germany. and if the city is torun, note this is the border uh on the russian empire and the german empire in the fourteenth year. that is, torun is already the german empire in this way. eh, technically clean. uh, one base remains on the lands of the former russian empire, and that's it. yes, and with your permission, i would like to draw your
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attention to one of mr. stoltenberg's latest statements. let's listen and analyze. nato stands with ukraine and will stand that long. putin started this war for as long as it takes, and he must end it with the withdrawal of his troops from ukraine . lukashenka must stop belarus' involvement in this illegal conflict. it is very important for us that ukraine wins and wins the war against russian forces, because if putin wins, it will be a defeat not only for ukraine but for all of us. aleksey, how would you react, what would you answer to jens stoltenberg, if you there was an opportunity for them to talk, uh, of course , to say, uh, what works well for them, after all, they are a thought factory in nato. they are well aware, and they are aware of all their risks. yes, they are aware of what has been delivered. uh, now uh on the gaming table and uh, they, among other things, are aware of the beautiful, they are aware of
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all their weaknesses, both in the ukrainian theater of military operations, and inside themselves, and the chemical political sanzes and they openly say this, and why openly they say because they already have scenarios where nato lost, and they are now looking for opportunities to justify themselves in order to say, and we said so. and why because what kind of nato do you need? it's just stoltenberg. this is a hired manager they put him in. he is there, what they tell him and what they wrote, they say, but capitals are behind him, they financed the war in ukraine, and stoltenberg and everyone else said, we will win, we will overwhelm russia and all the resources of russia will be ours, but it didn’t work out now uh, these investors come to them and say, we invested yours. where is the result? and so he says, you know there is no result, maybe we will disappear altogether as legal entities.

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