it does not allow itself. you will agree with the critics, you know, so i'll tell you. i hmm never wanted to be a scandalous person this train. rather, it’s not peculiar to me, because i’m an internally modest, delicate, intelligent person, and this scandalousness never brought me any pleasure. to have my own audience, of course, it was difficult for me, because my international project, yes, which concerned world politics. it went on the air, not a bad time itself, after all, evenings, saturdays, it’s unlikely that you want to spend with me and on the sheet between us international experts, of course, well, you know this, so i can tell you, hmm yes i have one friend. a ukrainian

technologist, he explained the popularity of the talk show, because at some point you know that in ukraine you don’t need any. why, the existence of the comedy club, or else it is enough to turn on a talk show to fly. it happened there sometimes. he always spoke. nadia people want to see. this is very rudely said, but this is his quote, and this is the word hohlosrach. it seems to me that he very clearly describes the content of ukrainian talk shows, because the country is really different and people had absolutely two polar approaches for quite a long time. which country do we want to see in the future. and who is the hero for whom. and who is the enemy for whom is also important, and therefore it was not difficult to find two opponents, but even now i agree with me . colleagues from the stv channel agree. we are not after the number of languages, therefore, in our studio you will not see the abundance of guests we make focus on what we need to give. mint

information and it is important for the viewer to hear and analyze it and draw conclusions. it was easy for me to adapt to the agenda of the political economy, and belarus by the way an amazing team works with me. we generate ideas the process of creating a program is always a discussion. this is always a healthy discussion, so of course, and one of the colleagues. i can advise on issues related to other countries. they are already advising me directly about the situation in belarus. continued on your career path after all television. you said in an interview with our colleague that you fully supported the zelensky channel, which he closed , including 112 ukraine, to which you spoke, but what happened in your opinion. why didn't your loyalty work? you understand the country. here she is, waiting, she was waiting for

her savior, the peacemaker, who would change her fate, and we, as people who came into contact with poroshenko, at the head of state, saw that he was not at all what we would like to see citizens and rather, it is devastation and total corruption that contributed to it. crash in the future and therefore people expected that a new man would come, a man not from the system. you know , fresh breath, fresh blood. and so, it was everyone's mistake, we believed we were all deceptions and in the future, of course, corruption did not go away, despite the fact that a person came from business, a person is not poor and could build this system and recruit people into real professionals in different areas of activity, but again such his environment and perhaps a lack of wisdom and understanding.

who is actually a professional. and who, by the way, is sent for certain purposes, this played a cruel joke. look, he was for the world. e. this is the agenda, he says, and it worked, because everyone wanted a settlement. yes, all conflicts continue to create and so on. and suddenly something changed, in your opinion, what happened, he made contact. with western politicians and he was convinced that only on militant rhetoric. he can get results. unfortunately at that moment i can to say that the russian federation chose the only person with whom they were ready to conduct a dialogue. this is viktor medvedchuk, a member of the opposition platform for life party, and he was directly involved in the exchange of prisoners of war and for zelensky. it was very

painful that he would have to have a dialogue with him in order to bring peace to the territory of ukraine. and you know, it's more likely like this. and here is the boyish reaction that if you become president , everyone should come to you and they should talk to you and they should ask you. and here he is realized that his main enemy, rather for the electorate, is an insane platform for life. this is the opposition and and because of this , the war began. you even before recording to say that he then began to lose rating. yes, and here it was necessary to take some interesting move. yes, and this move was not long in coming. yes, we suddenly became irreconcilable. well, you understand, eh. well, that must have been completely unreasonable. why, again, such people open a criminal case against viktor

medvedchuk. despite the fact that we understand perfectly well, this concerned a certain period relationship between viktor medvedchuk and petro poroshenko, someone poroshenko, uh, feels great now, he has no problems. but we , too, handed out some faggots there, you saw how it all happens, when there was a desire, it was all brought to an end, and in the case of poroshenko, it’s completely different, such a game, and then the media began to be destroyed. and after that, you know, it's convenient when you shut everyone 's mouths and kriti. it does not enter the ears, but it is very easy for ukrainians. do you know how to manipulate public opinion, but everyone knows perfectly well that ukraine cannot exist in this situation. uh, she's the only player she needs support. and here is the question. uh, the sovereignty of these states. here does the

state that consults has sovereignty, and in some e situations, and completely fulfills all the requests of western kurats. in my opinion. no, they removed the program. e your being deeply pregnant, which convinces us that, well, television for you is really not an empty phrase. you love this job and hmm you it's hard not to believe it here, but you were covering just the same elections in the us at that time. yes for you , trump is biden, in general there were some personal preferences. i understand. it will not be easy for the united states of america now, in fact, a period in history, especially 2024, the year of choice, when it is already obvious that the biden team and he personally are losing the support of american citizens, and then, after all, how did the democrats team try to beat trump and

the republicans by the fact that we have the hand of the kremlin everywhere here. let's prove it, the mueller commission spent a crazy amount of money on this is an investigation. eventually. uh, some kind of involvement of a half-manafort or financing of the company from the russian federation . it was not proven in the end, he was accused of being there, as a colobist , some taxes, and the floor paid more monotonously. further, the witch hunt began and, in fact , trump . all his election promises were extremely difficult to fulfill, because he constantly justified himself. although it seems to me that many russian experts said that the russian federation was generally interested in the victory of hillary clinton for her the russian federation, this policy was absolutely clear. yes, due to the fact that he, as it were, has been in this system for a long time. and sometimes, you know , it would be easier to declare some of your own interests. trump is not a systemic person, but this is hope, you know, such a

redneck of a simple american, because now so i often hear my program statements america then america - this is what america wants. let's always focus on what america is - it's a deep state yes, in which key decisions are directly take the heads of transnational corporations representatives, but such a global capital is wall street. these are republicans. these are democrats. this is congress. this is directly the president, who is the country of which not one person makes the decision. this, i think, is already clear to everyone, the system is very complex, and since the globalists are now losing. they are ready to fight their weight by any means . and unfortunately, while the fighting in my native country is a disaster for ukrainian society for me as a ukrainian. but for the american system, these are again

a very successful model that allows you to make good money on it. uh, when we talk about america doing all this. we somehow disregard that here specifically refers to the figure of zelensky, who could make such decisions, could make other decisions. he always has a choice. true, politics had a moment. i remember april 2021. our tv channels have already been closed. we were all practically out of work and there was enough time to analyze what was happening in general. the world. and then everyone already perfectly understood what was happening on the borders with ukraine. what kind of military equipment, where is it present and then in may passed by yourself? this is the geneva summit, where vladimir putin and mr. biden met, it was the hope for peace in ukraine, that is, the fate of ukraine was in the hands of two people, and then there was a certain plan for

interaction for six months, but unfortunately, what happened happened. and this, unfortunately, is a mistake by the ukrainian authorities, when the fate of the country was decided at the table, but they were not invited to the table. maybe for zelensky, this is also a kind of business plan for making money. i am destroying ukraine, it is difficult for me to talk about it , and rather, it will probably be incorrect. i don't know, i'm convinced that he is a creative person from this creative environment. vain. he needs the support, of course, of the ukrainian society. if he gets it now, a lot could be watered. there are already political ambitions. yes, what happened is a disaster and the fact that fathers bury children and watch how your usual life collapses. that's when we found ourselves

in minsk, you know, i was a person who stands, uh, hmm, a cliff and looks at the fragments of his former life, and it seems to you that hmm, your familiar world has collapsed. and then we only had to thank god every day that we are alive and alive, my children will discuss hope how did you endure? challenges and how you continue to be an optimist, no matter what, we will interrupt for a while, reminding- we have a telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe to ask questions. suggest guests we are in touch. on the air say again, do not be silent, and today our tv presenter is visiting us hope sas hope is another interesting fact from your biography. we would like to recall the internship in the european parliament. i really got back when i was studying for a master's program for

an internship at the european parliament. i went through it in the office of the vice president, then richard chernetsky. this is an excellent base. yes , that's for a journalist and just for a person who is connected with politics. and, because it is interesting for us to observe how this whole bureaucratic system works, and i want to emphasize that not even european politicians, and their staffers are their assistants, because this is the person who actually forms his agenda . this is the man, knowing that you can always find a window in his busy schedule to meet him. and it was very informative for me, and soon, when i already became a tv presenter, when my career was already under construction, and after that they somehow tried to destroy us precisely thanks to those student acquaintances. we were able to ensure that the destruction

of ukrainian tv channels was postponed, because as for hmm petro poroshenko, after all, and the statements of his european colleagues that this is contrary to european values, if the state wants to be part of the european union, especially since in recent years this has been on the agenda of ukrainian society. generally. hmm, you need to listen to what exists in europe. i remember that i once had a meeting in london with john whitiandale, and he said, as a british politician, yes, in the history of relations between great britain, the russian federation were various dark pages, but no one would ever have thought of closing russia today or some other. yes, this is a russian, but a russian mass media, so freedom of speech should also be about which tv channel

to watch. about what no this right choice exists only for the viewer and votes. he's using the buttons on the tv remote. and yes, there were moments of wonderful interaction. i remember that a lot of britons even before the exit of britain before the project from the european union supported us in every possible way and uh hmm then we are true, as journalists declared themselves. we came, did the inclusion, organized round tables, tried to tell about ourselves and about the problems that we, as journalists, face in ukraine, and you know, it is very important that european politicians, especially now, are forced to say not what they want or about what they think or say what essentially reflects society, then the parties they represent, and there is a certain agenda. and like it or not, but

you follow and in this case hear share. truth from their lips. today is extremely difficult. by the way, recently. we used a quote from joseph, and he said that i was offended by the statement of my friends that the aggression from russia happened as a result of the fact that nato did not keep its promise not to expand its eastern flag. that's all it could be. but that's in the past. let's not talk about it. still, the share, truth, the true sounded from his lips. yes, somehow he voiced it all a little specifically, but it’s true and they don’t want to admit mistakes, not european nor american politicians. all the more surprising from you. nadya hear that there are european values ​​that are spreading in this case in ukraine, that the european parliament can save you. when you have some sort of political squabbles inside the country.

do you think they are really concerned about the situation in ukraine at that time, of course , we received support. when publicly european politicians dared to criticize the ukrainian authorities, and at that moment, again, we are not talking about what is now happens, it was two or three years ago, then the opinion was slightly different and third, but the european union is also present, well, in general, such an agenda was beneficial. mm support another one today. you just somehow still seem to me, a little remain true to some dreams or illusions about freedom of speech about value, even though there are no democratic ones at all. that's what i'm interested in. e is the key when he chooses, e, this landmark, ukraine is she and what does she hope for? why this vector european is so important for ukraine well, or for you, let's do something for

the whole country to speak, you know, and for us for the tv channels that were accused of being pro-russian. at least to the russian federation to get support. this would probably be the simplest and most unreasonable. and we fought, their own weapons, we received support in the european union and the european parliament, and pro-russian journalists of the kremlin agents supported us about it, and you know this, this is more likely not the ideals that were inherent in me or my colleagues about that if we want to be part of europe, let's still follow their rules, which are already, unfortunately, they are destroyed and destroyed, but at that moment it was still hope that after all freedom of speech is freedom of speech, it is important that it does not need to be destroyed, and then we got what we wanted, this is important. what do you think

today, and how the ukrainian society is shrouded in fear, and i want to talk with fear. fear of something wrong to say to be not and that is, as i understand it, you are today. well, in general, a traitor. let's say it there. if you left, then, well, as if for friends, you already cease to exist. there is such a moment, of course, and it appeared. and why because there are some fierce bowling trollings there? why do people succumb to this fear of not being in the mainstream, this nationalist one. well, it's not even nationalistic hmm mainstream. it's just more love for one's country. and when a country in trouble, the society decided that such an internal one, yes, it’s easy to mobilize, unfortunately, people who call for an end to this war. there are only a few of them left. and unfortunately, it's we were lucky. we were saved, but for

dissidents now suffer many. i know that many of my colleagues left, and some did not. and , unfortunately, i don’t know how their fate turned out, but now it’s natural if you appear, uh, in a public plane. yes, on the ukrainian tv channel, although he was already alone , the tv channels that belonged to petro poroshenko renat akhmetov were closed. now we have the only freedom channel. here, in fact, the work of the word one plus one will talk. eh, obviously. it's still the retransmission of a single agenda, yes, which there is, which but relay the approach of the ukrainian authorities. but if you say today that let's stop the war, because we are all pacifist humanists for some, we are defeatists. well, we believe that the main value is human life.