we were saved, but for dissent, many are now suffering, and i know that many of my colleagues have left, and some have not, and , unfortunately, i don’t know how their fate turned out , but now it’s natural if you appear, uh public plane. yes, on the ukrainian tv channel, although he was already alone, the tv channels that belonged to petro poroshenko renat akhmetov were closed. now we have the only freedom channel. here, actually freedom of speech one plus one we speak of course. it's still the retransmission of a single agenda, yes, which there is, which but relay the approach of the ukrainian authorities. but if you say today that let's stop the war, because we are all pacifist humanists for some, we are defeatists. well, we believe that the main value is human life. and

you need to think about it first. we are in the 21st century, everyone wants to live and enjoy life. and, of course, now in force. here are those, you know, here are the tonic shifts, when the old world order is collapsing on the polar world, as i say in each of my broadcasts, sasy is authorized to declare. it is also collapsing and the united states america now does not want to reckon with the fact that there are other players on the world stage and china of the russian federation, and this multipolar world is still being built. but the most tragic thing is that the battlefield is now the territory of ukraine, and if you come now to the ukrainian tv channel and say we want to stop the war. you will be in cancer. yes, it can not be said now on the air, i do not see such daredevils. who would dare to do this , you understand, although naturally people are tired of this, people want to live. in the world, people want

the authorities to find an opportunity to agree, and this also applies to european leaders who cannot dare to say it and think about people first, because it is extremely important, and the longer, we remain on the sidelines. and the longer we are silent, the more people suffer, the country is being destroyed, and therefore i hope that there will be enough wisdom for everyone to war to the last ukrainian, but it seems to me that this is already too much, but is this agenda war to the last ukrainian accepted in ukraine or is it just the establishment villas once and now it mutates. here at eight. here you go, look. uh, those who are present in the information field are people who are already outside the territory of ukraine, these are people who can provide themselves with some kind of minimum. security, we hear their voices, we

don't know what the people who are on the primorontal zone, who are not there, think . elementary water. they don't have food, they get some minimal help. nobody hears them. and it is unlikely that anyone will want to do this, so the agenda, the current rhetoric , is present, which is present in ukrainian society. it comes from the mouths of people who are in a slightly different situation in other security circumstances, at least with regard to russophobia, which we often hear clearly in the official ukrainian mass media. this is russophobic rhetoric. it goes off scale, but at the non-nez level among ordinary ukrainians there is this hatred of the russians. it’s difficult for me now, uh, to analyze the mood in ukrainian society, because i’m not there now, but before the events of february 2022, the situation was. this was not different, of

course, you know, i love you very much analyze how we got to such a life and when the minority, ah, which suddenly became the majority, if we are talking about values, yes, here is lgbtq plus their approaches, they began to take over the world and talk about it , probably everyone yes european politicians and everyone are concerned about this, and it is still very important to understand how it happens that by protecting the minority, we deprive the majority of our rights. and now in ukraine there is a similar situation. there were a minority. of course, representatives in the ukrainian parliament with nationalist ideas. just a question that they did not enjoy the kind of support that already exists now in 2020. we, you probably know, did not manage to slide into a civil war. to beat this paphos that's exactly what you are talking

about dehumanization, but at the same time e, around the twentieth year, you wrote in social networks, when you managed to turn into jackals, when well, someone wished your spouse death when they found out that he fell ill with coronavirus here is such a question i have why do you think? ukraine well, you are swinging at these things. easy, we remember, it starts from the fourteenth year. yes, all these revolutions. well, we are watching you. in general, that it is somehow with curiosity. this is genetic memory. these are features of the mentality. again, this all rests on this noisy minority, which infects others with its anger and hatred. it is important not to succumb to this, i cannot understand, as a person who does not share your political views. may wish you were dead. and what kind of democracy, equality, what freedoms can we talk about? this is a big

tragedy. and i can frankly tell you it was very difficult to say people who do not consider themselves traitors to the motherland but believed that ukraine lacked the wisdom to build healthy relations with its neighbors, suddenly we became enemies and we need to wish you know there the curse of some is really scary. it's hard for me to understand how you know the legs grow. you don’t know, maybe this is competent work, after all, people today are deprived of informational hygiene of political strategists. they are very easy to manipulate to manipulate people, it turned out to be easier. what is special about to bring to emotions some in a state of this courage, and it’s much easier to manage, and as a candidate for deputy of the dnipropetrovsk regional council from the opposition platform for life party

, you met with residents of the modular town for idps from donbass in 2020 and you said them. i want my children to grow up , study and be happy in ukraine, though i really wanted this. why didn’t the deputy career work out, because i became a mother and at some point, of course, you know, i am a very active person who loves e not sit in one's hands. i rather e overestimated my capabilities and at the moment when i had a choice, but to devote myself to work or motherhood. i made a choice in favor of swearing, i regretted it. and it seems to me, hope, that this is my opinion, what you have there. well, this is diversity, which was also welcomed in party life , but the example of zelensky, as if saying that this is all easy, you can go to the deputies with this tv presenter, and then we become president. but it's possible in ukraine. i don't think so. everything is possible,

easy in this world. everything is possible, besides this, ah, i must say that everyone should mind their own business, the fact that i went to the deputies - it's more like a desire to draw attention to my hometown, because i come from the city, dneprodzerzhinsk and i met with the residents of dneprodzerzhinsk with entrepreneurs, and i was ready to help, because back in soviet times, the city that, a was so important, yes, in principle, for the infrastructure for the metallurgical future. countries died every year. and this rather my decision to pay attention to it. we discuss very often after the events of the 20th year in belarus whether a multi-party system is needed, different opinions, on this score, but here is what you are today from the height of your ukrainian experience. in general, they would say this variety of parties that are in charge of these parties, and

the oligarchy that contains these parties, sensations, how the political landscape in general affects the landscape in the country. not even the diversity of parties played a dramatic role in the history of ukraine . its political power and most often it reflected the opinion of only a certain half of society. he froze all the projects that existed before that, destroyed them, was engaged in others, then again the change of power and the country never set a goal to implement a single model of the country's successful future. everyone came and destroyed what had been built by their predecessors. and this, unfortunately, is the problem in belarus, the system is completely different. i'd rather you know, i could say that uh hmm lacks initiative. among representatives, but authorities, because

there is a key figure, who is the initiator of the country's engine. and this is obvious to everyone. but i would, of course, like those people who obey too. would you find the courage to offer fresh ideas, because in 2020 it was a year of shock for belarus and belarus stood it out, and i’m very sorry to hear from the lips, uh, belarusians with whom i spoke, that you have a country with such variety. that's how you say you've had this and that and such a president and this president and donetsk from western ukraine and this is a showman. well , how great! well, i can’t say that it ’s great now for anyone at all. and unfortunately, if in 2020 the situation turned around,

otherwise i don’t think that belarusians today would have, but had what was built over many years. you understand after the collapse of the soviet union in the ninety-first year, all the participants. yes, this is a big empire, let's call it that, we got about one thing and that the legacy of the soviet union was colossal only the question is that belarus has preserved and increased it, while ukraine has lost everything. and why are these your oligarchs? uh, they are so incapable of negotiating even among themselves. well , they cannot agree with putin, but they cannot agree on the fate of their country among themselves. this is a lack of trust. trust in each other. trust in each other. and, of course, and even you know the desire. uh, outsmart someone to snatch varnish and a piece. you know, this rivalry is unhealthy, it played a cruel joke. i had a goal in the name of the state

exclusively their skins. the interests of each pursued and that's it see they were insatiable. i agree there in the nineties in the zero. well, when you should have come the moment when you finally need to build, the more you want. yes, this moment the appetite is growing. while eating, a certain amount of time still has to pass, when hmm i hope many players of today's processes. but you know, conscience will wake up, work on mistakes will take place, and from such a generous hospitable country, we have turned into a state that m-m every day crumbles and suffers. let's take a moment. let's take a break after a short pause. let's continue our interesting conversation while subscribe to our telegram channel. it’s called say don’t be silent, and look for all our releases on the youtube channel, belarus is one. we are following the

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the air, say, do not be silent, and we have a guest journalist. hope sass. hope not quite, i understand. why do you need television when you watch your instagram and listen to your photos? how are you with children? oh i'll call you. i'm in the circus, my daughter wanted to go to the circus and so on. well, it's warm, it just comes from you, from uh, from your motherhood, from your children. here say here in this scheme, in general show business politics television and so on is a tricky question. i can tell you that, first of all, a woman should be accomplished, and a woman. a. well, in fact, she owes nothing to anyone , but if we are talking about my model, and when a person lives what he likes , lives his own business, he is a professional in his field. he looks at the world in a completely different way in my coordinate system - a woman housewife. well, this is probably a loss.