the development of the communication system of the armed forces has been completed, its digitization is being actively modernized, modern communication systems are being adopted, a new means of radio and satellite communication is being introduced. more information about my colleagues at 15:00. i say goodbye to you on this. till tomorrow. all the best. on the air weekly socio-political talk show on the merits. today we will talk about alliances, blocs and organizations together with belarus in them. so we spent

a busy international week, which alexander lukashenko spent outside belarus in general. first of all, it was central asia, mmm, but the last summit that was this itself is the cis on the nose of the thirty-first anniversary of the commonwealth of independent states. at one time, this organization was even called the organization of such a cultural divorce of the soviet union. after that, we now see, well, or a new renaissance and the emergence of a new status of a brilliant secretary of these organizations. same time. we are talking about the fact that in the space, which includes our country belarus, there are several integration tracks to take a union state is probably the closest such integration form, when we are actually one side. well, for example, the russian group. howling a single grouping of troops also helps protect our skies and borders. now, at this time, after the euroses is coming, it includes countries in which, well, conditionally for us citizens. that

there are customs barriers there, that is, we can come to yerevan, bishkek, astana, and, in principle, we can not think about it. yes, do not think about the boundaries, after that comes. the cis is also the csto there is another shos. and, in principle, the question arises like this. and why so much, maybe there will be some kind of unification, or is there any sense in singing, if the meaning in everything that is happening is the realities that broadcast to us, uh, the post-soviet space in general, the collapse of the bipolar world after the ninety-first year . that is, for example, belarus we were the first to make the initiative of a union state. yes, we held a referendum, and moreover, in the twenty-first twenty-second years, the union state passed the exam for maturity, and it has demonstrated that it functions. well let's see just after february 24th. all the agreements that we so wanted to remove barriers to the transition to e, the ruble

within the framework of the union state hmm import substitution. we got all this the second point - this, of course, we still have political support, which we saw in august 2020, and the president, for example, in astana, spoke about the fact that it was in space. there is no economic support for the cis, no matter how it is, it seems that it is decided by the public not everywhere, how says ok let's remember the position of one from one state, which says that it does not seem to join the sanctions, but it implements sanctions against belarus russia and the eurasian economic union today also face the task of passing the exam. maturity of kabe water. let's see, kyrgyzstan tajikistan the armenian question, we also need maturity to pass exams, but uh, the dkb even has what you already passed the exam in kazakhstan, for example, maturity. well, the points are also saved in one word, if we

look at the post-soviet space russian-belarusian integration is a driver that has already patented other formats. they are still running, as they say, which should all come. union yes , but everything else they have not yet reached any consensus. the most curious format is sco. why because shos? how the organization was formed in general purely regional, such as only asian countries could join there, the main questions, in general, were initially this issue of security around afghanistan today due to the fact that belarus, including joined, well, applied for membership in the sco, firstly, the organization has ceased to be a narrow regional organization; secondly, the issues that, uh, are on its agenda. it's not just questions. security economics humanitarian sphere science education a whole large layer

of questions and the third is the organization really works and has all the prospects to become such a centrifugal instrument of the collective east, an alternative to the collective consumers. let me then, and then the question arises, and the viability and the need to preserve the cis and the cult. soon we started talking about the summit that took place last week, really. well, there is something to say about such observations and from the fact that the business trip that was in kazakhstan really, probably, this summit was one of the most acute and substantive in recent times, because, well, heads of state. eh, obviously they had something to say, and this suggests that, yes, rather confirms the fact and the lack of media absence. as such , live broadcasts, then they shared, of course, some. such fragments, what is called for the press, nevertheless, and although

from what we heard from alexander lukashenko's speech of the same. yes, er, indeed there are a number of issues that, if not resolved, then in principle and probably, it makes no sense to talk about the existence of the cis further in order. uh-huh even listing you opened our bilateral state program. i am the eu and the cis, in fact, honestly, according to the system, everything was born from the cis and this nature is wrong. this is his happening. sorry, but i told you that politicians journalists in the ninety- first year called this organization organizations. here is simply a divorce of countries that were part of the soviet and systemically not systemically. not not interesting, really from the point of view. eh, as if a person of a specialist, how is it that i, as a citizen, an ordinary citizen , look and think, there is a union, there is a cis, there is a dkb. it is from this that if you let me speak,

i will continue everything, right. you say, but the point is that the cis emerged not only as a negative. that's how the formation of divorce is negatively those who created the cis wrote it. whatever they are, they are cute to me, but they were wise people, they laid there, the development of this organization. this thesis is the development of an organization that was able to single out its dkb from itself at different stages of the euroses, and not only business. naturally in the secretary general, but the development of the organization. at this stage , it required another reflection. i would not be surprised if other organizations appear, they all hypothetically grew out of the cis. let me say that we have not even begun work on this structure, it is no different than the powers, than the competencies to increase my estimated. judgment, because i myself will probably have to participate in the development

of those provisions that are associated with this document. i think that we will be puzzled not by the name of the position of our head in the cis structure, but by the content of the powers that the executive body will have, which will probably now be called the secretariat. they probably thought about this, but i won’t be ready to say that we do n’t count the countries that were, you know, the list of cis member countries we are talking about ukraine did not have a representative. uh, moldova yes, the heads of moldova really have something to do in chisinau this year, but does n’t this mean that after some time, maybe someone else will not be counted, the organization will be reduced. do not know up to such a union we have a proposal of a request. talk to us at the level of observers and now, what you probably heard or didn’t hear about at the end of this last summit, we will begin, in particular, work on the institution of observation and partnership. some will come, some will leave. we will work in

the status that exists today because we are an open organization. and in general, you don't know any block there on the basic hard ones vladimir mikhailovich here you support. yes, that's what observation is. but, for example, i will simply ask you that the cis has become an observer, the vkb. it's like for an ordinary person. explain it did not become. tell me again, this is a journalist 's speculation. well, we listen and watch what journalists say. alena correctly said that many of these agreements were behind closed doors . doors that is why our program we are trying to open something. so it didn’t, or it didn’t. at the moment, the issue is not yet completed in the consideration of countries , its radiation continues, but the idea, such is the idea, such is. here is from your point of view. it's an idea, for what do you know? i would like to start by saying that the cis has been and will be this structure that has helped us. i would say to avoid such bloody events

that we saw in the example of the collapse of the same yugoslavia in others. e regions. listen armenian azerbaijani conflict, moldovan conflict, georgian conflict ukrainian. it 's all the cis it seems to me here the principle that was laid down in the cis and it is functioning. i think you know, yes, it's multispeed integration. well, it would seem to me that the most important thing when we talk about all these regional things is organizations, after all, why are we doing all this, why are we uniting and structuring further? this is , of course, an increase in the standard of living of all the countries included there. well, in fairness, it must be said that in e, first of all in the cis and in other regional associations. well, the results in this part are modest , you know, yes, in the cis for me, from the point of view. eh, for a citizen of belarus, a resident of

minsk, the fact that the capital is located here in minsk is very important for minsk - this, in principle, is very important. well, it’s like a symbolic step, firstly, because we are talking well about the fact that you can treat those people who signed cooperation agreements with an independent state in different ways, but this is also symbolic from the point of view, at least a platform for negotiations or statements of one's own opinion. the cis should to exist as he is, for example, now many criticize him differently put to this organization. they say that she, in principle, does not solve anything. however, it has such a platform where each person can express purely polar points of view, while the cis is becoming such an organization for me as journalists. maybe i'm wrong about something? i would like to return to themselves, that is, the ministry of internal affairs, uh, and emphasize such a rather important point. i think everyone noticed how the uh heads of state followed. uh, which is part of this union for the speech of our president. with what

attention? e out of understanding what he says? i note the state in the status we are in the ministry of internal affairs in the status of an observer. yes, at the same time, the united states is present in the hall, which is also the united states is also in the observer stage, but uh, the word was not presented, not because it was not presented, because there was nothing to say to our president, they listened with their mouths open and absolutely right thesis. e aleksandrovich that if at this time i am political such splits to me, by the way, returning the topic and start. here the hashtag was perestroika, world perestroika er. i believe that the topic of perestroika was not quite correctly formulated for me as a communist - this is generally a red flag of the civil code. because now the formation of the new world is underway. well, the order of the new event and how our president correctly says in this political in this political realities. we can unite. we are not a positioning

country. uh, the west, uh, the center, which is essentially belarus, europe, asian countries, including our president, but he said that now asia new time. yes, and here there was a very serious hidden undercut, wait, only uh, the president of belarus spoke about this, in principle, all those who gathered at this summit. and just the same, they adhered to the thesis that now the time has come for asia, otherwise they simply would not have come there, they would have a different position, it is obvious that there is an urgent need, and once the former ones are no longer allowed to communicate on other sites. why alone go to astana, for example, firstly, you need to normally calmly perceive the fact that the cis has different stages survive, of course, it is not true that peacefully developed in the blood. we have already bathed, and today we see it slowly on our borders, but we have come to the conclusion that we have redeemed, unfortunately, ah, but listen, you understand, uh, the collapse

of the country is a divorce. and then families at each other, and here imagine 15 families, three immediately ran away and said that they were under occupation. moldova has always been in a situation where romania has a great influence, azerbaijan and armenia have problems. that is, you understand, each of the republics also had mutual claims, so to speak, which, uh, tried not to stick out during the meeting. okay states, but somewhere in clares in bilateral relations. and you understand when they see some kind of unification and want to put out this, uh, coal, which they are trying to revive. uh, the cooperation of our competitors use the principles of sharing and power there next. here you are voting in some community. if you will be two speakers to speak. here the pension will be, i say it, and we and our guys will win. no problem, but retirement can make that an option. he will meet with 15, uh, members meeting to one gave from the third will take the fourth will threaten. cursing and

voting will be completely different than what you see in public politics. it's just, uh, the finish line, all politics is done under the table, so many cis problems are created under the cleaver's table, many countries are directly dependent on loans, they are under the strongest pressure, but what is the most sound position of belarus, the most reasonable position and what we russian federation, our sister has always been told pragmatism and, therefore, practical benefits for states. here is russia, and recently we met in smolensk. uh, so, uh with colleagues from russia i say, you must become a centripetal force. what rahmon was talking about is correct, we want respect, if you want yourself, and respect your beloved wife, who will save you from death cramps from cancer . otherwise, she will outlive the boat for you when you choose before. if you want allies, you must create conditions and be a centripetal force, only the strong ones should surround you. and the union itself

will be. and here the russian federation made mistakes. it is always more profitable to create favorable conditions than later in the 1990s . there were government officials. unfortunately you can't boobs you, which is a lot. uh, the good thing that russia did was also not appreciated. that is, this is a mutual process, so you understand, we played on these grievances of contradictions, that is, we cannot throw all the stones in the direction of russia, but now our task is. what do you need to decide. so there is a real existential threat to the existence of the cis countries below the economy the population is destined for certainty and turned off by a living labor force. and this territory should be developed and two options, or within the framework. here are the same as here, where a bunch of contradictions are even greater than in the cis ten times. the main contradiction between china and russia is the vast uninhabited territory of pakistan and india. to tell you the truth,

it will be very difficult to negotiate. but if we manage to build those concepts within the framework of these formations, when we will add to each other, take into account interests and will not speak from a point of view. these are small peoples. these peoples have more than e. well, that's basically it. well, it is necessary to transcend itself and some state of national centripetal force or a constant and endless military operation. well, it's always expensive, it's always cheaper to create favorable conditions, it's harder to conquer anatoly sergeevich here we are, we have been talking a lot lately discussing the cis csto, in principle, any organizations that, uh, not everything is in order between uh, members, often, there are some conflicts, some support others behind the scenes or in public, and in general, the ocean is constantly mixed every time. we raise the question, if a couple of participants in an organization have unresolved issues among themselves, then can the

organization, in principle, continue to exist should everyone adhere to the same opinion or immediately take the side of one of the conflicting parties to the second, for example, expel it, an excellent question ? uh, it echoes what has already been said. in continuation of the discussion, i will say that, of course, the cis of the 90s differs from the cis of the 2000s, the usual examples from the nineties. who was the general secretary in the nineteenth years and sergei nikolaevich lev e, the current general secretary, this must always be kept in mind, because the secretariat is also included. it often depends on what personnel work there, how they work in terms of your issue such as hmm, for example, border disputes. disputes about the regulation of the border, disputes about the protection of mountainous areas, various so-called climate agenda in the field of the environment. we often do not understand that there is a territorial dispute behind it and that such disputes will always and here. the answer is simple. if,

for example, today we see that in this or that organization. there, the planned exercises are postponed. yes, at the level of such household. we say, but in this or that state has not adopted a common position. she. maybe even forgive me to interrupt you, but this teaching is an indestructible brotherhood and right there is speculation, but that i will answer you that if there were no consensus principle embedded in our organizations. do not be the principle of sovereignty laid down , he put a center. poor tendencies they were would be an order of magnitude stronger, that is, the fact that international organizations translate some kind of unsettled agreement, but into the diplomatic channel b into the channel of negotiations, when one organization. whether it is economically very highly developed. if it is militarily , it may be less developed, but it can transfer by consensus, for example, the same exercises or periodic settlement of mountainous territories or and so on. this allows the organization's strategic

perspective to be strengthened, that is, the cis here, well as i say, yes, this is an organization, most likely about negotiations or some. the union is already lying, or yet it remains a union. i perfectly understand that the ninety-second third-fourth year. it was a feeling of the former motherland and we all said the post -soviet space, the cis is now post-soviet, the space, the cis, even for 17-18 year old people, these names mean practically nothing. on and everyone understands that aha. there are our interests. he explains on his fingers, that's how they vote. well, look at the organization - is it profitable for you or disadvantageous, and uh group of countries coalition. for example , the anglo-saxons, who can force you to lead in this way. how do you benefit? well, you know , the vote on the russian operation. who voted against those who or could afford or afford or more depending on one of their colleagues. if

you remember, yes, for the weekend, here he was giving an interview and quoting a text message from one of his colleagues, who said that just the third secretary of the us embassy actually dictates in some way to eat and himself strange voted. in some way, these are participating countries, that is, those that finance or supply weapons, or countries that are in complete economic political military dependence, you understand, that is, in general, in principle, if you look at the names of countries, their budgets are indebtedness. if you see, the amf is such a pocket company of the united states of america, then you can understand what the vote will be, plus or minus four or five states. who kept you? why did they abstain too, if we look at india's foreign trade with china pakistan and other countries. they are also very dependent, including on these, so everything is not so bad. you know, rainbows. eh, tones, we can draw everything. unfortunately, everything is more complicated, but vadim is bad in the face. here we go in a good way. now we

must decide to recognize the complexity of the international situation. the fact that the redistribution of the world is taking place, and as they say, some questions in the background introduce the question here , what is the redivision? where in what and for what? here we say yes, the post-soviet space, what is the very term in the soviet it was something soviet has become post-soviet, that is, such retrograde retrospectiveness, what do you know, two divorced, eh? the wife begins to divide the property there, not as it will not be divided. this is where the military action comes in. yes, the question arises, and where is the image of the future that's all of us. yes, i have a union state of russia belarus for me personally. and here is a good union state of russia, belarus, here is the ussr we understood that we are building communism. yes, that's a bright future there west liberal bourgeois democracy human rights, gays, lesbians and

other, yes, the chinese today they say the community of common destiny is capitalism for the elite, and capitalism for our allies is conditional. yes, what do we offer? this is the main problem today, so that the cis ceases to be. here is a draw point and not, it was associated only with some humanitarian projects, but the memory of the great patriotic war, which, by the way, they are good at. for this, our task is to create an image of i will. and the strategy is precisely jewish, yes, integration is understandable talk about at the top of the superstructure structure of the world here is the understanding that the cis is not only discussions, but at summits, but colleagues should have come, every year we work not only in the humanitarian sphere and not only yes at the mention of memory and even in this summit, if you are the name of the documents, look there are many breakthroughs. last year i told you about a different market that didn't exist. that is, well, this is capitalism in general,

that is, where do we go in the word capitalism, clearly, here are the documents. well, thousands of this will not tell you anything in ukraine so far got out of them yes. do you always report that they work? even in ukraine today, many documents are not all far from ukraine, not all are for moldova but this is the spectrum of the western but if they would give me, well, don't, it's time to give. i told you that an organization is the presence of huge millions of people who cooperate with each other in different directions. daily yearly hourly there are plans to eat without plans. and it is developing. this is a relationship, if not only the economy, then why why did they keep it put the union of belarus of russia went further and should become this centrifugal motivating and unifying force, which will continue to act as a driver of union integration only on our examples.

well, i'm telling you, so we must repeat everything well. yes, that means that today we will show what a union state is. today russia well done and belarus well done. we give each other a quality shoulder so that we hear each other, and our viewers also hear our opinions peter look at what i want to tell everyone to colleagues, what does the zimmerskaya say? yes, bureaucrats come to the european union, they say, here you will have this, this , this, this, this is our image of the future there. eh, then the americans say, this is this this is this, but we don't say. and what do you mean, here we are talking, here we are only fulfilling an agreement with us. this is how we make such great reports. you know from all the speeches of the president, yes, the future speech of our president. i can

bring you one word, which, in principle, forms both the present and the future justice is not in every statehood. a prospectus is not a general staff to propose such a humanitarian concept and an effective socio-political model, we have already begun to do this. here both russia and belarus have fixed in the constitutions, adherence to traditional values ​​to traditional faiths respect. this, by the way , is a very e centripetal force. in what context? i work with a foreign contingent, a lot of families from western europe and north america move to us because they don’t want to raise children in sodomy. this is a plus. the only thing is that our socio-political model should be competitive in many ways, and ours is fairer in many ways. she responds more like an interesting person, so to speak, but loses in many ways and listen, we will say that we have built a successful model when there is a turn for us. you see,

three gay pride parades are ready to be held in the european union, you know, they are ready to send their children at the age of 12. here is located maturation and allow to adopt. if only to join nato there is included. that's when we created such a union . therefore, i know with our russian friends. how many argued in 1 giant leads. these are white growth channels. recently i saw the head of this channel. and how much i say, guys. so, when you approach foreign policy with a calculator, you come up with beautiful things, when you said zhirinovsky stop feeding the caucasus, who is fighting now? here the ossetians were mini networks now smolensky, he says, our guys are already the third there, the third line went and there were fathers fighting, and some guys in including metropolitan borders quickly. whether you understand it or not, they couldn’t have such things, and the same thing could never be said about belarus that we feed someone, no one ever fed belarus. we provided the highest quality geopolitical services. you know, in the cis we supplied the highest quality products, the best rural special equipment. and you just have to do it.

listen. let's not make these mistakes, because today we have resolved the issues in the south and put things in order. tomorrow they will start billing us again. we need about these accounts, when yes, when the situation returns to normal, then no one is immune from the fact that, in principle, we will return to the old sore issues the nineteenth year the twentieth year, when we had elections, they created us, among other things, and there were no problems because of this. why did we have to swing the situation from this side? and today we are breaking up themselves to blame for this, well, a word of error. we heard, but do you need to explain it or not? that a bilateral union is a slightly sided union or no need to explain that bilateral relations qualitatively completely different. and this is not theory, practice. and now, where is the third one that will come to us. let's search, and we should be an example. here we are today, of course, you understand, we will pass the cis to the allied states a little. we have the sco ahead of us. let's. we will now listen to the opinion of nikolai

budin a. he, unfortunately, could not come to our studio, but he wished to speak. i 'll ask the directors. give him a comment and we will continue our discussion of these pla. shapes will flow smoothly into something new. right now, the shanghai cooperation organization is on a very serious rise, and it is the asian vector that was set. uh, many countries of the world. today it is really developing and we can say that in all likelihood, in the near future , it is in the eastern direction that will be the most promising from the point of view of further, so to speak, the development of political e, a component of the world political component, therefore more than 50 fears come, therefore the circle of participants is expanding , so the state they listen to what they say, but it was organizations that were the stages towards this, so to speak, understanding. they will continue to

work and give a positive result. perhaps over time. they transform into something new, but nothing happens all at once, and we need to talk about it. politics, including the new politician, who want everything at once, m-m to read the classics a little bit to figure it out on their own. well, if they can’t understand, then listen to smart people who are able to give practical advice. mikhailovich, you were a consul, right? that's all the same, well, how would you have zero years, yes, when uh something existed, but, probably, of such a scale and such. uh, well, the scope, she has not yet acquired. at that moment, what was the sco, and what is this organization? suddenly so abruptly? well, what is it called, it attracted all the other countries of the world that were not originally included in me. well, i'm looking at this emblem. we read shanghai hadzoji. this is the shanghai cooperation organization. uh, really, i

was lucky to be in china for more than 16 years , uh, 10 years in beijing at our embassy, ​​so i remember that. when we are somewhere since 2007 years they began to work on getting into the sco, and then it was some kind of nonsense for the rest of the participants. they correctly said that they are registering, how can we get this and yet already in 2010. we have achieved this, i want to say, not just, uh, we were both partners and observers. uh, well, this is already a story in its archives, you can raise them; they don’t burn. some of our partners in the cis with central asia slowed down our concession there in e. hmm to the shanghai cooperation organization. i absolutely agree. here u with my colleagues. and republic belarus during these almost 12 years

here in 2010 year after year proved to everyone and first of all, of course, to russia and, of course, the people's republic of china and the center. that she passed the matriculation exam is not all. just watch already. we hmm now become really already becoming members of the shanghai cooperation organization, this is a huge prospect. since we have already taken up the chinese theme. i think on behalf of all our colleagues, we will congratulate everyone who loves, who knows, uh, china of course, on the greatest historical date, which today is already started on sunday in beijing is the twentieth congress of the communist party of china yes uh. this is truly a grandiose event of the 90 millionth party of communists. he spends 5

years eating this one. we have no doubt that real tasks have been identified. uh, real plans and literally think, over the next decade, of course, china will become the number one power, and he is already practically in terms of. it's not always. eh, but i'm coming back anyway. uh, to our topic of the shanghai cooperation organization, i want to say, here here we discussed chickens, what can give. the hai cooperation organization can give, if we are a member of this organization colleagues, understand what it means to be, so to speak, yes observer. well, for god's sake, you're present. well, you listen, you do n't interfere with anything. here is the most striking example i wanted to give you, how successfully our kazakh friends successfully used the sco, the then president nazarbayev, in 2013, agreeing on the day of singing almost 100 million, so to speak, yes, uh, a project to

build such a powerful trance logistics bridge and from kazakhstan to leningan. this port is the most powerful chinese port. look, kazakhstan is a land power. it was built with the help of the chinese. e. in zhenya , i swear at my port and now look at all the cargoes of central asia. i am finishing going through kazakhstan there to china from china from this port. uh, kazakh wheat and so forth goes beyond east asia. that's what we need to do. you also had a weekend congress so the communist party was captured. i'm sorry , please sent congratulations word of welcome appeal to the participants. see yet, but in final senses. yes, that is, there is, and capitalism is communism in the soviet union. but the communist party of belarus . look at the communist party of china in essence. well, from the same root, two organizations came out there with the cpsu yes, well, from the cpsu or

the vkpb. here, whatever you like, but in fact, here, uh, china has a well-formed, as the semantic idea of ​​capitalism and socialism says, chinese specificity chinese specificity. here you are. uh, looking at this experience some pmate for myself for the belarusian communist party absolutely, ah, but colleagues want to go back bye to the previous question, to explain to our viewers. i am very worried that such an impression may arise. people in belarus say that in these geopolitical realities belarus is beginning to storm, that is, some kind of integration unions into all kinds of associations. you see, it's not for that. and this work absolutely. support your colleague. she is systematic, she has been doing them for years, and only thanks to a multi-vector policy, for which at one time they were beaten very hard criticized. literally, in the last six months of the year, under the conditions of the most powerful

sanctions pressure, we were able to reformat and rebuild the logistics supply chains of belarusian products, and now we are not just climbing, but our economy is showing. uh, such positive examples talking about cooperation and interaction between the cpb. and kppk. i want to say that together with the communist party of the russian federation, the cpc is our main partner. we are constantly checking our watches. and we have similar positions on the vision of building a strategy for the future, but here again, returning to the question of the future. you know the strategies of the future, today we need to stand today in order to build this future, but in order to expose, how to say it correctly, our president will only be told together, and china and asia today are not just not new, but the center of strongola. they have always been the center of power in what today needs to be thought about today. and if we think today today, then we are a strategy in belarus people's organizations, but

today, because tomorrow may not come. first for this reason. wait , vadim, we are present at different venues and the state travels. these time zones are changing and this crazy rhythm can withstand it just so that when this geopolitical transformation happens, belarus takes its place, not just takes it, but takes its place. that's why. many argue why there is membership, firstly, i will tell you separately. listen from coal and began to deal with the european union. such an organization has grown. soon they may fall apart. if the wrong ones are obeyed , you understand, but the question is different, by the way, yes, on the threshold, the americans are now solving all their issues and china is weakening both russia and the european union, and this, and now it’s time for organization. first. uh, it means absolutely

practical benefit, because you are participating in a specific site. provide your questions in the economic plane. that is, you agree on security issues, and you don’t stay on the sidelines, you understand, right? that is, you, uh, participate in global processes? that yes, now there is a global redistribution of the world, it’s right that we should be members of these organizations in order to influence the processes and not to become yes, to the backyards and they also failed with their isolation sanctions, where putin where lukashenka is isolated, dozens of leaders come to the forums meet at highest level. the population is most of the world in any case, the leading leaders of the world, therefore, these organizations allow us to be full-fledged subjects of international law that affect global processes in the world and you correctly said that they listen with an open mouth to our leaders and vladimir vladimirovich and alexander grigorievich and are you now a movement of real leaders of this union state anatoly sergeevich, you somehow got bored in our discussion, i listen carefully a lot. please

share your thoughts. maybe i'll push you. but just the same, when we talk about the fact that belarus is now trying to beat it, it’s obvious that it will be its place under the sun, that it will be, uh, the eastern direction. which of the organizations do you consider paramount for what should we focus on in our work? i think that taking into account the fact that today, as already mentioned, the most promising organization is moving to asia, the cis still remains that south of the cis that allows e-e to settle an agreement there within the framework of a free trade zone. e central asia it allows the cis to cooperate to build a link between integration associations in the cis and asian integration associations, for example, the same osian, for example, the same highway, but this is more separatism. it's more political areas. that is, today there is no such format in the world that we would say there is a bipolar world. yes, the soviet union, for example,

was against such a wording. the polar world was a non-alignment movement that worked for a multipolar world and to which, in principle, the united nations organization was moving, er, 10 years ago. let's remember what happened when china began to rise. analysts and scientists had all the questions. will the world become bipolar again , will the united states and china come to an agreement and then what will happen to the middle small, and i'll go even further with strange states that have one diplomat sitting there in new york. i am with the americans, who have 500 diplomats or there are more sitting there, therefore answering your questions. i will say that this is the cis. yes, the vector is shifting to the south and belarus, uh, should understand what it understands, in principle, this can be seen from the positions that it puts forward. uh, our our decision makers. uh, belarus should occupy a central place in these networks. yes, sometimes this transport. we see that kazakhstan

now the traffic is coming forward. it 's okay, belarus, for example, as you said about merit, belarus is traditionally one of such main e main outposts there, well, outpost buffer. there are many different western formulations, but our initiatives in the field of preventing drug trafficking prevent people from being trafficked. here we occupy, for example, a central position. this is something that politicians don't talk about, but the international second. just here in support of the previous thesis. yes , it may be such an acute problem, but i will translate into everyday language. why, when they can come to you, uh, god forbid, uh, come home with a pistol that is not registered anywhere. yes, uh , this discussion begins that they won’t come to you with a gun, just the same at the national level and further at the international multilateral level, because the problem of arms trafficking is human trafficking and uh, and drugs are three such whales, as they are often

called the world economy alone to solve them is almost impossible. therefore, belarus takes, e, central positions on certain issues on other positions belarus is working to gradually come out together with the countries of central asia, this is very important. we often forget about them, because we are, as it were, in the center of europe. yes, we have the european union of the russian federation nearby , it is convenient for our business to trade, but central asia is for understanding. yes, as you said for the layman. look, we are talking about the fact that the cis is to some extent an outdated organization somewhere. we say, i do n’t think so, many say, but you say that the cis is really for many, especially specialists. priority organization according to one principle in 31 years to work on the number of key documents that are already working and it’s impossible to just take it and turn it off and it turns out that this is different hmm stepwise integration. basically, it should

just exist. well, to tell the truth, these are not journalists, ordinary viewers of science. from science, it lies in the fact that any multilateral agreement is always based on a network or system of bilateral agreements. same same same, wto same same general trade agreement they all grew out of a system of bilateral treaties. today, this system needs to be raised on a multilateral level and further disseminated with our colleagues and this experience of all kinds of votes for sanatoriums. e. well, i would like to add a certain role, belarus here. let's remember how we were poisoned with fairy tales that belarus is important for china only as a transit country. yeah, we see how the restructuring of belarusian-chinese relations is going. we have now reached the highest level of partnership. here is an all-weather partnership after, by the way, how they filed an official application for membership in the sco. this should also be borne in mind, but for china we are becoming. they are the same project. look who's around us,

right? lithuania, which is on the list and which travels to taiwan and develops anti-chinese separatism. the west, which stands next to us, we become a showcase for china for russia, we are a geostrategic direction of protecting moscow, that is, we are strategically important. if you want , we are for eurasia, this is germany for the west, then we become the cold war. if we endure we will join this system, we will get what we want, we can add a little bit. yes. eh, once again i want to confirm this thesis that belarus has passed the maturity exam, maybe for our tv viewers and with everyone this fact is known, but today it is already well known. yes, and for more than one year, the economic belt of the silk road, which, yes, and the onion belt and the way, so

, i want to say that it was with the weather, when the president of the people's republic of china announced the start of this grandiose program of a grandiose project, after all, china did not have final decision. how to start this route from china further through e, russia or kazakhstan and further, then either through belarus or through the baltic states or through ukraine, and literally in 2015, china made the final decision to let the entire flow go and did not lose. yes , it is through belarus that they must say that we again, let's say, have passed the maturity test, because by this time, but, firstly, we ensured absolute 100% political stability, which is very important for business further. i wanted to say, look how we modernized the belarusian railways, having purchased new equipment, wagons, and so on and so forth. and now we , well, what do you say, this is logistics. this is

, simply put, not just once. poland is trying to turn its course towards china now. yes, yes, unlike the baltic states, the poles do not pursue this anti-chinese course, on the contrary, they came many times in the tenth years and spoke. well, so, let's get out the pig's mouth. there is a continuation. yes, at least add it. look at the olympic games. uh, in beijing, we see that there are no stats there. we see no germany. and fool there is, yes, but they understand what china means, we must understand that we should not set our goals for china to be a transit country. our goal is to join the technological industrial chains and the belarusian-chinese industrial park for this, and for this purpose, electric capacitors for medical various things have been created, which we jointly produce there. moskvich engines, if he says so, yes, this is import substitution and we

become needed, china and china is needed. moreover, we are also needed by russia in import substitution, thereby conjugating throughout eurasia that this is a guarantee that god forbid that we have such a rebellion as in the twentieth year, because the main goal was that the deindustrialization of belarus in order to completely purge this country of production and fill it with western goods. with such a partner as china, it will be extremely difficult to do this. yes, and unlike the european union, we will survive. but the european su- today is facing the issue of industrialization. why because the americans want to take their industry and bring it to them in the fight against china we would n't talk to another organization like that today. if we touched on this in passing, let's talk about security. that's probably where the questions are. uh, a lot has accumulated lately and kohl we are now seeing the development of the situation. we understand that belarus and russia understand that our

relations are beyond the brackets. in all spheres, there they are absolutely on a different level, but we are starting a union state, of course, the military sphere. naturally, we understand that that, well, we're protected by, uh, our ally. we go hand in hand with each other there and in any case, we will fight back together, the question arises. why do we need the rest, if everything is so incomprehensible in the relationship, everything is so ambiguous between them, or maybe it’s just the same here on the dkb. it's time to make a point. well, this is generally the wrong approach. uh, first of all, i don't agree with the cis a bit. unfortunately, our president said incorrectly that the organization had weakened, it was necessary to strengthen the economic and political component there, but plus the cis is that of this organization. in principle, both the economic union and the union state and the csto expressed themselves as crosses. therefore, this is the soil, you understand, this is the fertile soil that gives birth, so the offset is possible. well, although here is the economic court of the cis what

is it, maybe you need to read the documents, you understand, you need to read the documents of the economic court of the cis, an economic nuclear power plant has grown that works yes, yes, but i’m just saying that vitya’s fertile mail is still growing, but if we take documents with you, then the powers of the bodies the cis, unfortunately, is not the same, well, regarding the csto. you see, the main problem is contradictions, but i will explain to you why you are fighting? what do you think, for the territory? well, think of some territory is not enough, the farther from you, the farther away from you located. uh, the military formations of the battle heads, how did the caribbean crisis begin in the world you placed the missiles everyone remembers there, there is the caribbean sea, from there the turks started, and we went there closer to the caribbean islands now berlin moscow is a treaty we will not be in history in good so say understand that today, when we talk about global security, the farther

we have a security belt. we would have more allies in this region. kazakhstan would be with kazakhstan if then, unfortunately, individual politicians are not always appreciated. i'm not talking about my president of kazakhstan now. i'm talking about the political establishment, which today speaks impartially against russia, but then it played a decisive, decisive condensation of the british takes the project. yes, especially energy therefore express, but this is wrong, so it really played a role about dkb. and by the way, they defended it. it’s not easy, kazakhstan, after all, they wanted to set fire to central asia, central asia is the same to found kazakhstan in the larger economy of all the countries of central asia, you understand, if this country were approached, that is, you need to understand these processes, therefore, any expansion of some kind of geopolitical union of education or military the block is a, which means the distance of the threat from their own guns. therefore, we will deal with this another question plays on contradiction. you understand, including

today, what is ours. weakness they control the international financial system trading international arms trade in many ways control control international institutions that can impose sanctions understand, have you ever seen that you against the united states, someone waged sanctions any war unleashed. why don't they care , they voted, they didn't vote, and we introduced yes, russia is golosantsy, but your sanctions are a mosquito bite to a certain extent. unfortunately, but here's the hair, you see, showed the european union today that they depend on, including this equipment the only problem. i want to say that today everyone understands everything that they are doing. russian federation at the moment, this is the plan of the united states of america. they did not want to weaken europe , weaken russia, destroy the slavs as much as possible. this is a demographic failure, a catastrophe and get close to china. ,

as well as in geopolitical terms and fate. i'm in election campaigns in the uk in washington and london, they will tilt us, and while we play second fiddle, you understand tilt, if you tilt, yes, well, they limited trade. you are now forced to sell potash fertilizers cheaper carriers cheaper losing the market. and it’s true that one president told us about this that in some situations countries do not support each other, and i still understand, yes, if we have an organization and an organization of the cis, this is the union of equal partners, right, but sovereign, but sovereign, but equal i emphasized equals that in principle, i understand that the problems of each may be the problems of another. but after all, it doesn’t always work out, and so does the csto. relatively speaking, we started with the fact that the cis will become an observer on the cst. and for what hmm here is nothing discussion goes on with us, please. here are the details

asks here ku. the question is the level of real threats. for themselves and for their peoples. see what's what. come on, it's an organization. let me make a deal. uh-huh here then this bloc will become uh, really strong and capable of responding to nato. the main problem is the point of turbulence that the us has in its policies and methods. they are proxies of conflicts around russia, china , new ones will be created and somewhere it will be drawn in, and so, while we all mean the leaders of the countries that are members of the csto and, first of all, the cis countries, the leaders here are only their power. uh, so to speak, let's say, by a strong-willed political decision, they will not be able to unite in such a bloc that can really resist the challenge threats until then we'll be bars. well , look, you need to listen to the president.

january of this year showed that, in principle, countries can unite in the face of adversity absolutely calmly in kazakhstan, they calmed down. no matter how we are not politicians, and we do not know. how did this happen, but in any case, the troops were brought in and the situation calmed down, but the situation is now on the kyrgyz-tajik border, the situation in armenia azerbaijan shows that the csto may not be so strong dialectic of contradictions should be national and narrow nationally. yes, here is the tajik kyrgyz border. what is the problem? are there any scattered villages? yes, why swap territories water is just a struggle for water. these have no water in one of these. turn off the water and that's it, but the main problems. what is the organization, has not yet become a tool for solving this issue. and why, because again , returning to my thesis, there is no image of the future. and what could be the image of the future

american geopolitics already at the beginning of the 20th century fully said that the natural eurasian borders were the unification of all eurasia in a natural er, geopolitical bloc with the solution of the internal economic political borders of the russian empire at the beginning of the seventeenth year of arrival, which is desirable and we say aloud the cis there brothers, let's solve this issue, of course. do you know that we have this issue, is it actually spelled out, how to solve it? then, ask yourself a question like a smart person. and why are you still undecided, so the way. russia , finding an opportunity to enter between the warring countries, they call on it, and in this case, you too you know, tajikistan, kyrgyzstan, and the existing mechanism of peacekeeping is not launched, because they don’t even want to sign. but still. let's not fantasize about launching the mechanism of countries that have not fully shown their interest in this

launch of the mechanism and doing everything, therefore, everything is in a new state. why, when this new state, as you say, the attraction is there. yes, i can already say about this about the military attractiveness, maybe the economic one will not happen. then we will become generally all in common. well, it looks like in the united in some new format, in my opinion, we would like to say to our discussion that, probably, one should not harbor illusions and say that a is the case for all participating countries. no matter what kind of association there should be a common goal, everyone should live there soul in soul and understand each other, all dishes, these are their interests. well, however, as in life, but now understand that sometimes the protection of your own interests. it is impossible without general protection. well, belarus should appear in any organization that will somehow relate to peace in our country and how we will be more active there, so we will truly live in peace.

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