and there we are at war with the collective west, then we can, uh, inside uh, collapse and collapse like the soviet union yes, and at the same time, uh, it is still necessary that china be able to quickly rebuild, that is, respond to any temperature regimes. yes, their conditions for fighting us have changed. we have rearranged so that they can no longer use their methods against us, but for this in the first place. naturally. the intelligentsia itself was correctly noted. yes, that is, the management team must be adaptive, that is, constantly improve, not be. uh, you know, focused purely on their domestic needs. there, somewhere, build a bathhouse somewhere, and in the forest, uh, drink firewood from a log. so, when we move a little away from our farm thinking, this belarusian one, but we will still focus on this. uh, the idea

we started with. yes, he is dugin's philosophical ideas and we will understand that if we focus purely within ourselves on our farm, then the farm will definitely capture. and if we think about the scale of the country justice. yes, the scale of justice is not only for yourself, but also for your neighbor, yes, and think about it, then in this case society will be flexible and the most important thing will be, but have an element of self-defense. this is the most important thing. well, well, i thank you for how we started on a note that allowed us, if not to see, then at least to feel the echo of this image of the future. we all need to shape it. it's near the end. we clearly understood for ourselves that without an image of the future, without a conscious desire for it, we the test will be at least very difficult, so thank you for your opinion . thank you for participating in the program. thank you for being with us today everything is happy. naimana

doesn't want to kick the run and make it rain. the leaves are shining, the sun is shining, like frozen fractions, our life is shaping up. i would like to have a closer look at this world. and every day to discover something new she is in it so. 'cause we cut it out with love. with love to belarus

klishevich sergey deputy of the house representative of the national assembly of the republic of belarus today i would like to discuss the issues of the geopolitical struggle that has unfolded on the planet and what is the place of our state in this struggle, as well as legislative novelties that are coming very soon. i think we will consider, which will concern every belarusian. these are the issues of elections in our country of this issue. many people are also interested in amnesties, uh, this topic is of interest. therefore, these are the questions on the agenda today. and, of course, potritetism. hello

, on the air, the program, say, do not be silent, the studios victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina are visiting. at us today sergey klishevich, good afternoon. hello we are surprised. you are visiting us for the second time and the second time you came by metro. why does the deputy still not have a personal car? well, firstly, it’s convenient, uh, in minsk , to travel by metro in the center, by the way, it’s still very good. now all these electric scooters are also great to move from one ministry to another. true, sometimes it happens when you drive in a suit. people turn around a little, uh, but i'll tell you that it's much faster than my colleagues drive in a car. well, in general, of course, so i'm used to, uh, riding public transport. once again i will say that in the city we have a well-developed infrastructure, when you come to other cities. well, as such the most probably, maybe negative in this regard, for example, moscow then, of course, spends half of his life in public transport. although even if you use the metro, we still have a lot of any point. i live on the outskirts of the city for half an hour, uh, and you are already in the center

at work, so it’s convenient, but secondly, of course, to be honest, if it’s already about we are talking about right, then there was simply no time, although if i wanted to, i would have found the time. you probably don’t really want to, so i didn’t have time, i think it’s more important to do some other things than spend it on renting a scooter for rights. today. this is the most dangerous form of transport in the city of minsk. but now the corresponding rules for driving this type of transport have been adopted. now it is already observed, therefore, naturally, we observe carefully and move around no questions. although of course culture. uh, moving on that these transport. we still have to form. i think for a long time what infuriates you when you ride a scooter, i find nothing admiringly beautiful. weighs wonderful people, by the way, i'll say that's part of the culture. here, uh, no one really violates pedestrians. that is, this is part of the strip, even here on our busiest avenue, it is always free, which is allocated specifically for this type of transport to visit some. yes,

cyclists are those who ride such electric scooters on e-rollers. eh, they are sometimes they often visit the zone, so to speak, the territory of a pedestrian. yes, and somewhere else they are beeping there. naturally. uh, so, uh, people react nervously to this, so here, of course, this is uh mutual respect. there is still a little to learn, especially in terms of those who use such uh, so mini high-speed modes of transport in our city, but i will say that again using and uh, watching how it happens in other cities. we have here, uh, more or less everything is worthy of the level and uh. well, the most important thing i use it conveniently myself, so here's my personal feeling, i pass it on and inexpensively. people's deputy, these questions are also about movement. where can you find today for 90 kopecks. take a ride in the same subway or public transport. and in what capital of the world or europe is always with students when i communicate, when they tell me that there

, uh, 1,500 the average salary in a particular country is euro. yes, we have 500, which means there are more, and there are questions. i say right away, so let's discuss with coupons in the subway how much should we move on to a haircut? how much does it cost in your turn to utilities ? well, and so in turn, in the end, it turns out that these 500 e of our e dollars. yes, they make a person much richer than those 1.800 there or 1.500 in our neighboring european countries, where today in a hostel in the capital riga a student pays 12 euros for accommodation per month. it's more than what we have here for training. if you calculate how much he pays per year, so everything should be valued by your arguments, the students, of course, all the more so, i ask them to find this information, not say it. here they provide. like some fact, look on the internet, they naturally look drive in. google google please helps to find any information, including this, of course, this one has a sobering effect on a person. it is clear that we live in the conditions of the information war, when they try to manipulate the facts

, they give an incomprehensibly unprepared person, when two figures 500 1.500, he, of course, has appropriate thoughts, therefore, he needs to say, again, on specific examples, in who are not given, who need to look for themselves to convince him that it is real. look at what you have, not what is good there, even at an excellent price, because even this may not be taken into account today. of what is happening in the world. well, now let's move on to the current agenda last week, the president said that the elections of 24 years, which should be held according to the new rules, will become the largest campaigns in recent years, but by no means the easiest listen to easy election campaigns wait don't have to do it yourself. you see what conditions our country is in indefinitely with the international situation. incidental external pressure of information attack and provocation. moreover, we don’t want to clean plow in time and control prices so that people can see that we are a state for the people. well, let's be

for the people. well, indeed, after the ninety- fourth year in belarus there was not, well, practically not a single electoral company. uh, without trying to demolish lukashenka, these were both parliamentary presidential elections and referendums and so on is always the fifth column. e, tried to, uh, tried to make some kind of mess. here is the yellow plum gs premium telegram channel now called uh, briefly ran through the most iconic companies. here is the ninety-fifth year of the referendum on the symbols of integration, then they staked on the nationalist position the referendum on the constitution of the ninety-sixth year on the parliamentary opposition nothing grew in the 2001 elections of 2004 the sixth referendum again the presidential elections the tenth presidential elections in 2015 it was an election where practically nothing didn't happen. yeah, well, there was a scenario in that too, ukraine, uh, after ukraine in 2014. the west decided to thoroughly prepare for the main battle in 2020. before, apparently, it was spent on ukraine quite a

lot on belarus, it’s just possible that there weren’t enough resources and the 2020 presidential election was an enemy. he went for broke, leaving all the resources of the fifth column and external pressure, and now they make a conclusion and the enemy cannot but try to take it in the next elections. revenge. do you have any suggestions about scenario of the possible, how will rock the boat by 2024 to the elections. well, all these scenarios are the so-called sharpe's manual of an allegedly peaceful protest, when, through uh, an imaginary civil society tries to penetrate our state and allegedly peacefully. eh, change the power here. well, of course, to those who are interested. well, it's interesting, first of all, it's interesting there. why? because uh, we're that territory. which can be used in the confrontation with russia no more, no less, we are more of them, uh, with no point of view we are not interested in we have no oil and gas. we have our geographic position, which needs to be used to put pressure on one of our possible

competitors in russia, therefore it is desirable here that there be constant chaos, a war, a struggle, so that, well, there is minimally enough people for bread, no more, no less, and everything else, uh, does not need to be developed here. well, that is an example of the baltic states, when everyone took a piece there. uh, they give some rations, throw them from the common table, and they perform their function here. opposition to the containment of russia it is clear that half of the population is alive, because the corresponding poverty, as for 2024 , then in the twentieth year, together with you, we burned the balloon and threw it into the furnace, so the time has come for other mechanisms, more stringent mechanisms , radical mechanisms, mechanisms, associated with terrorist activities. well, unfortunately, it was the same in other countries. we talked with the cuban ambassador. he told how many attempts there were to make a color revolution since the soviet period. yes how many attempts were made on more than sixty attempts on fidel castro and in the end they came to their third final

bloody version of a terrorist act in cuba when they blew up hotels in order to stop the development of the economy, because we know the cuban economy. you are based there on tourism. and today we have a similar terrorist scenario being prepared about this, and the president spoke about it in the first place. this is a danger. we are threatened today. we know that outside of our state there are our traitors. well, it’s hard for us to call them belarusian programs or well, unfortunately, in any society, at all times there have been people who are ready, uh, to sell their own mother to sell their homeland for, let’s say, a green piece of paper. and now they also have about 500 such, let's say, bandits of terrorists are being prepared today on the territory of poland, in order to throw them here at a convenient right time, allegedly under the guise of a civil conflict. so, here, uh, hmm , organize such an uh terrorist attack, and then u declare that guys, look, it means that the belarusians are fighting there. let's help them. they will also naturally apply with prepared, as always, pieces of knut

to some other country. and they can already lead the troops. and here we will say it already to deal with this or that issue, therefore, the west has remained today. uh, one single chance. e somehow influence the situation in belarus peacefully, they will not move it. why because it is clear the choice of the people is obvious history shows here the support of the people is evident. e power. she doesn't just hang on. today it is being strengthened and not just being strengthened. today it e sets an example for other countries, for example, today for the rest of how to build their own national state in the interests of their people, and therefore, of course, it infuriates the west today, and it does not stand before anything, therefore a huge piece of work today lies on our special services, which, let's say, do not sleep, but are really engaged in seriously engaged in this work. we see them results and e by 2024 to the elections. this work will be intensified. i don’t think they will focus on, uh, peaceful attempts to seize power through the nomination of their own

candidates, what is simply unrealistic, who will support today the traitors of those who advocate sanctions for other uh, uh, options for pressure on their native belarusian people a. here, this kind of provocation, terrorist acts are attempts to commit them. eh, of course this will happen, and therefore we all need to be on the alert here, but first of all, the security forces. they work. it is clear that they do their thing. well, we all should not relax either. it all depends on how it ends, maybe, uh, this bloody scenario that you talk about will no longer be in the plans, because there will be no need for it. or vice versa. they will take a breather after the conflict between russia and ukraine. you yourself said that we are the last thing they are interested in, we are with him, as an object of pressure on russia. kiushitel russia today is surrounded by either local conflicts or unfriendly, uh, sharply so unfriendly and negatively inclined towards russia, we are the only state that today, let’s say, in this chain

around russia, uh, we are its strategic ally and support it, and as the president once said, uh, we shoot back in the back , protecting our national interests. well, uh, i repeat once again that we have put things in order. after the twentieth year we looked at what kind of supposedly civil society that they offered us here in our country was brought about. here is the order with terms of laws registered. uh, those organizations that yaras openly work against our country for foreign money have liquidated their media , which are not such, they are simply agents of influence on our country. them too today. no, i mean, uh, trying to influence negatively in some way. uh, that's the way they used to do it in our country. they already don't have. uh, there was only one legitimate option left to participate - to put forward an offer to tell their programs. go to people and say they offer. um, well, they don't have people today that we would be able to do, and who would command respect in society. they are. naturally the program itself. she wasn't even in her twenties. if you remember, there was no speech program there

, just words. we will make you happy. let's vote for us, so, unfortunately, unfortunately, they have this scenario. we must be ready for it. just yesterday. she turned on one of the ukrainian tv channels. well , there would be an interest. what are they there they talk about belarus what kind of conversation has gone that they will try to initiate there somewhere in the european union well, in short, somewhere back in the west, the topic is that belarus is allegedly under russian occupation that is, this is also an option, then they will turn to say. let's help the belarusians who have been occupied by russia and who will be brought in by nato troops. well, this is one of the most bezmozny deputies. the verkhovna rada declared. he is constantly talking nonsense. well, in principle , to this verbal diarrhea. i'm sorry to be treated accordingly. that to discuss what he said there - this is not self-respect. it is clear there that zelensky does not belong to himself. ukraine is governed today from other capitals of the world, we know from which and in ukraine the main body that makes decisions is the united states embassy, ​​but not the banking administration or

the president's offices. and what to say about this deputy? or is it about the others? uh, i 'm sorry drug addicts and bandits who are in power and rob. today, the ukrainian people are destroying, and the economy. not today do not belong to themselves. america will say they will act they will write they will declare they will publish america they will not affect anything they are not capable of. this is today proved by the practice of life, our laws will not. let's deal with our problems. in the electoral legislation to amend one of the innovations that was announced by igor karpenko is the chairman of the center of the electoral committee to cancel the turnout threshold in the parliamentary elections, which caused it immediately? oh, howl to the opponent. here, again, what kind of opponents. if we are talking about the fugitives, who today are in a transcendental latitude, then these are enemies, if they are today, then they begin to criticize this, then excellent, we are on the right path, therefore

we explain opinions, we explain, yes, what does it mean we have unification, unification is going on in our electoral processes, in particular. when we were discussing these issues during the preparation of our constitution, we were people and, first of all, those who participated in the electoral process as members of precinct election commissions. these are simple employees of the organization of our organization, they said, let's do this let's say. well, excuse me, this process, why and still terrorize us will work out or how we will do it, uh, we will carry it out, like in many. strange world will hold elections and accordingly, uh, in one day we will allocate one funding and decide. uh, so let's say two questions in one day, well, figuratively speaking, yes, for one company. a and, a. this is where the discrepancy comes in. not only in this issue, but also in this one. e the question of what does it mean in parliament the election of a deputy of parliament. we have vices, respectively, and in local councils. not why complicate the processes of this e work of our election commissions, when we can unify it and make it easier, naturally easier to do when it is not there, why? because

today we do not see society for the most part, it is certainly political, it is subject to all sorts of influences from the outside. we see what kind of provocations against our state, in particular in the election campaigns, were prepared and implemented in our country, and therefore it is clear that we must themselves, including to insure our political stability, because the future depends on it. even those who participate in these provocations do not understand clearly that not everyone has an education there as a political scientist, an expert, each in his own specialty. the information space in which we live today is such that, unfortunately, we cannot protect a person from all possible surrogates and frankly hostile information that affects so that this does not happen, so that we really do not fall into any political, which means disassembly and e incident. yes, uh, the decision has been made. okay, again same disappears. yes, at the moment of manipulation, when, like, let's boycott the elections. yes, not quite right. that's about that speech, boyko you are all possible and, of course, our members never succeeded. yes, that is,

some part is minimal, there the political positions are tuned in to a part of society, maybe they can participate, but in general people understand everything perfectly for the time being today is changing, and we must say this, we must respond to those challenges and threats, our legislation in the first place turn that uh against us trying to apply and of course, here, please, if you are against, nobody forbids any here say no, but there are obligations there or someone somewhere has rights, we limit, please, vote against means choosing another candidate. well, everything. do whatever you want, but you have such a right today . if you do not want to use it, do not interfere, then you will obey others, the will of those who took advantage and the one who made the choice and determined this or that, the deputy in his hands. and you, accordingly, will already be here in the role is let's say slave. i support it very much, in general, all elections should be held like this. another innovation is proposed regarding the accreditation of observers with them. there have always been questions, our opponents also liked to use some kind of manipulation here. now the observer can come

to observe the elections. even on voting day, it is still proposed to do this before the start of early voting. well , absolutely right. why because it is the same stretch is not rubber. these are common, mostly school premises. yes, and it’s understandable in order to destabilize or, uh, interfere with the work of precinct commissions, and again, i repeat there, not uh, law enforcement officers are sitting there, ordinary people are simple, they are , uh, peacetime, someone is very children. someone e treats people, someone works there. and of course, with the help of this pressure, which was pointed out in the twentieth year by the heads of these election commissions. this is how you can influence there to catch up with the crowd, uh, supposedly observers, and uh in the world to interfere with the work, yes, election commissions on these people, so to speak, to put pressure on us, we cannot allow this. moreover, today we allow anyone to get credit in this way, let's say to the voter, before the beginning of early voting in the united states of america, there is a completely different legislation. at least you criticize me, but still an example, i will give the most democratic country in the world there, uh,

no observers of speeches at all. no, you can observe a kilometer through binoculars if allowed no there were observers from 2 km binoculars. i remember at our place, please, can you u come with binoculars, yes, you can u go to the polling station, but before the early voting began, in order to interfere with the work of our electoral process, so to speak, but here i want to say that we we won't talk about any more questions. in the economy, it is not in politics or the social sphere to look at who is there, what they think, we are holding elections, as always. the president speaks in the interests of our people. if we see that there were problems here legal and interfere with the work of how we are used to, how ours, how our traditions are arranged, yes, then we, of course, will oppose this in every possible way, including by legal means. this is our right. nobody will blame us for this. we have decided so. now. i believe that you are sitting next to oleg sergeevich so you absorbed, like sponge,

his main message, no one orders us, and all these topics that we discuss, most likely, it is he, uh, from different parties. but together let's say, uh work, we communicate and together it, by the way, his position is correct. i support him here 100% that we have different parties there, maybe even the ideology is different and many. uh, we have different views on many political issues. but when the issues are our national security of our country, we must be united here and this is an example of how a normal civil society should. how should, uh, let's say cooperate, work, build your country. if you start to be supported by sanctions, then, uh, talk about the fact that september 17 and uh, so the liberation campaign of the red army on the territory of western belarus is the red army of the soviet union. well, it generally needed this territory. poland give it to the enemies

of the people. this is not a civil society, and they should not be in the russian people's assembly, or in any other government bodies of our country, when all those who agree are waving and criticizing nothing. this is the other extreme. quite right, that's why oleg sergeevich and i are constantly arguing over the most pressing issues. by the way, we also nearby. and we have the opportunity to discuss the laws that we are submitting for consideration when we discuss them. we, of course, have disputes on a variety of issues, and this. and here there should already be a dictatorship of the majority. yes, if the majority in parliament voted. well, excuse me, it means that this law will work according to the rules that the majority has decided. well, we already respect this choice. also in society. this system should be built differently to attack anarchy, so we are by no means doing this here. conciliatory positions and heads, without nodding among us, uh, there are different questions on many positions. in particular, to work with business and liberals. they will never agree on business matters. let's take a short break. we remind you we have a telegram channel. say

don't be silent. subscribe ask questions and suggest guests we are in touch. on the air say it again, don't be silent. and today we have a member of the house of representatives sergei klishevich as our guest, let's talk about the draft law on amnesty. in connection with the day of national unity , its name is planned by the deputies considered at the session in november. you told us that this bill will be proposed for consideration immediately in the first and second readings. this is the rush that caused it. well , we have, uh, a number of bills, which, let's say. we didn’t consider, which we don’t drag out everything here, in principle. it’s clear. we also discussed, by the way, in the zero reading there was the so-called zero reading, when we also discussed it with the deputies on the merits . here we have a few more weeks here , so that if any nuances be corrected, but in general, and having familiarized themselves with this bill, the deputies

approved it. e he clearly really reflects today. e. when not our society, this is also our national tradition of humanism. by the way, not a single european state has such traditions, laid down during the soviet union, we even know there, in some countries , like the usa, people don’t know under any articles, nor how much they were given there, nobody cares about them there not their education nor medicine nor anything else they have one question. this is a reduction in the cost of maintaining prisoners at home. e these prisons. yes, we have, of course, a completely different approach. it is clear that we are not going to release from tyunin, criminals there recidivists and others, but for example. uh, it means that pregnant women suffering from oncological diseases are adults, who, let's say, were caught under narcotic articles, yes, our criminal code. first time. yes, for a year, simply reducing the parts in the whole place will affect, uh, 8.500 people of the part. there will be people the released part will be less on time. uh,

the content is therefore november the month of the october revolution money from tra. he to us to carry turn over to certain. uh, dates, uh public holiday, basically. yes, and i think we will time this amnesty to coincide with the next state holiday of vladimir andrechenko. the speaker of the house of representatives, uh, speaking in the oval hall during the discussion of this bill, said that it is clear that not everyone. uh, incarcerated convicts are hardened criminals. yes and e. well, someone, well, sometimes stumbled. uh, but however, there are several questions. here, as if with those who encroached on the sovereignty of belarus, took part in an attempted coup d'état in tourist acts. sabotaging the spread of nazi ideology. are they worthy of an amnesty and one more question, let's not forget that the so-called fugitive and western masters do not give up their attempts to form a fifth column in belarus. is it possible to guarantee that released criminals will not join its ranks, we have determined that those who today, uh,

engaged in extremist activities those who tried to overthrow the government in our country. actively participated in these processes of those amnesty will not affect, and rightly so. why because? well, how can we let them out now, when they, uh, uh, called for the destruction of the same haidukevich, almost burned down the house with his, uh, daughters. it's uh, the same criminals and murderers are the usual simplest of their motives. we are not interested, they have started laws and this grievous about a crime that does not fall under the uh amnesty so uh these people will continue continue to re-educate in order to come out healthy, sober, so to speak, yes, politically sober citizens and relevant places, but again, here we are, when we discussed this bill during, uh, zero readings. uh, then a number of representatives of the so-called opposition of the so -called position spoke, saying that here, supposedly here on political articles. let's see there is something comment written there on the wall, something painted we don't have e

political articles. this needs to be cut down to your liking. to all those who e somewhere something is heard about it. yeah, that's clearly a man who committed, uh, attempted murder. what where where where is the politics here man, so he attacked uh, a law enforcement officer, where is the politics in what place? we act the same way as anyone else. uh, countries of the world where e the situation is ruled by the law also in our country, so there is no political talk, if this is a serious crime, we have no difference, then it is in the period of the twentieth year in the nineteenth sixteenth, or in the twentieth. it was done. well, it's heavy, so it fits or doesn't fit. we have determined the criteria. well, we are talking about the place, i remember yuri voskresensky because we associate him with strength with the fact that he cares about releasing a certain category of citizens. let's listen to his speech, taking into account the situation that is developing along the perimeter

of the borders of belarus, the difficult situation, frankly, it is very important. approach this project qualitatively in order to prevent a civil split. here is this endless division into reds and whites, which is waiting and external destructive forces expect from us. it is unacceptable and with this the belarusians. we have never faced each other, so it is necessary that the deputies show their will and their professional skills. like they always do and, uh, prevented this civil rift from him in the last couple of years. he wanted to let everyone out. and now you see, he practically repeats your words, but such a question will still be dissatisfied with splits, in principle, it is difficult to avoid in society. is it possible that when we talk about amnesty, we mean the most

a serious threat. no, of course not, but understandable. what, uh, means, well, he has his own interests. by the way, i also respect him for his position, yes, that is, he changed it. he had such a transformation of views. and this is also an example of how people change in the course of their lives. and how did we manage to pull it out of this tomato. uh, it means, uh, the struggle for our belarus, when the forces are concentrated against our state. he put it out. he's done well. today he is in principle a position, it is clear he defends the same people, maybe, like him, uh, but we are deputies and not one person. we make a decision, and 18 deputies in parliament, then another council of the republic, approve these issues in order to weigh all the pros and cons. well , will these people really come out, re-educated and will they understand what they have done, that it’s impossible to do this anymore or still not, or vice versa, and angry, that means, and let’s say even more aggressive on mine, let’s release today in society. they continue their illegal action. well

, we see those so-called them calls, but this word is inappropriate for them completely terrorists, yes, the usual these fugitives, trying to somehow plentiful them, call them partisans, but people who are a little derailed, they didn’t let the belt set on fire, that means a transformer booth, but how can we do it today say, uh, forgive or believe him that he realized. this is an outright culprit, who should get compliance with the law on the maximum term. well , there already the court determines, if we are talking about someone, let's say the so-called erring ones. yes , this is a concept. we have this, then this is another the question here is all individually and none of the so-called misguided today. who today violated the law, succumbing to this psychological informational pressure, none of them were deprived of the right to pardon. see, they could uh get out. uh, who wanted to? hmm so, even before that, the house had to bear the debt and by writing the appropriate document, a petition for pardon in the name of the head of state, the president himself about it. uh, said repeatedly about what please, what kind of questions is uh, the choice is theirs. well, whoever wanted it

did it, and we know these people are doing it. today by their own affairs, they are at liberty they are grateful. today, including the authorities, for the fact that such a baton of goodwill against their violators of the law was made, and for each of those people who voskresenske says such a right, all that remains is their business. and if they don't, then, accordingly, uh, they consider themselves not yet reformed, please, there is a court. and uh, he set a deadline. uh, let this process take place. then, again, they have the right to have these people, and here it already means that the ball is on their side, as they play, i would like to discuss with you such an outrageous incident that happened in grodno on october 15, two teenagers filled the eternal flame with soda, filmed it on video and posted it on the internet. well, now they, of course, have already been detained, and hmm, this is a criminal article. hooliganism is a group of persons malicious than hooliganism. there will be people who will

lament, ah-ah, don't punish, take pity on the poor kids. don't break it. in real life here's sergei it's impossible to pardon, where to put a comma? well, first of all. of course, will be parents, grandparents. whose fault lies primarily with their actions. here are these children. this is not the first case in our country. i remember the case of whiskey. yes, but there the guys became, as i know from my information , patriots, they honor and appreciate it, this is already a grave, which means that the first commander of the partisan brigade, which that's what they tried to desecrate there vitebsk. they studied about the biography they were in the war patriotic camp, uh, went through school, appropriate training and took on vices, in fact the state of their re-education. yes. uh, same thing here, but again, uh, it's clear that it's not finished yet. ah, formed. e, so to speak, consciousness is psychological consciousness, in general spiritual consciousness is the understanding of things. uh, these uh young kids, unlike their parents. this is

primarily a lesson for them. and if we take today and say so, we will leave it without punishment. we are natural. uh, today we will untie the hands of the rest of the same parents, who mostly sit on the phone, rather than raising their children. and now here they are, uh accordingly, let them wear glasses with them, they will not look at the colony for minors. what is it like not to sit on the couch on the phone. but , it would be better to take a look at the museum. by the way, we sometimes practice. uh, these are the court sessions. uh, publicly invites young people there. and this is all happening. i used to have one myself when i was a student. uh, in my opinion, at school or at the university, i don’t remember, but we were also invited, and we sat and watched how it psychologically and emotionally affects a person on those present there, this is her the most er, it has a great educational effect when you see a person here, here he studied with you. there, either he knew him or walked in the yard with you. that's what happened to him such an educational thing. it has a very serious effect on a person today, when there is a lot of different information and an unprepared brain. yes, especially a young

man. e, maybe not to perceive what is good, what is bad, the most effective mechanism is e, well, it has always been like this in history, especially among the slavic peoples. this is a concrete practical example here is an act. here is the punishment, and it is the most, most importantly, inevitable in our country, and then a person begins to think, if we don’t lay a mouse on his head today, otherwise, uh, if not the parents didn’t do it, if no one at school wants to eat such shots. yes, because it is necessary to honor, it is necessary to respect, not that there is even the history of the country as a whole - this is, of course, understandable. everyone needs this in order to become a patriotic citizen. and at least your grandfather, grandmother , great-grandfather, about grandmothers stories, study tell, and today she is 60% of schoolchildren. uh, when they ask you if someone in your family took part in the great patriotic war, not at least in some status there, or well, completely different life stories, there are such stories for each of us, many 60% of schoolchildren answer. i don't know and that's why for them it's a completely different force. you see, the generation has changed. i was also on may 9, where resin still communicated with us at the moment. and and,

and don't talk about no. no one in the family was injured, did not participate, that is, it was surprising for me to hear it already. but it's true. they simply do not know this. every schoolchild of today before 16:00 to 16 may have eight relatives of potential participants in the great patriotic war, eight from their mother, eight on their father's side, and they simply do not know this, after all, every belarusian. today this applies not only to belarusians, a rare case when the result is when you start to figure it out, but, most likely, parents are somewhere from distant to eastern countries. perhaps you and i learned from someone from grandmothers from grandmothers from our relatives, found out, they already have grandparents who didn't take part, and they can't say, grandfathers will know for sure. they are the soviet school of education. they simply do not consider it necessary to tell, they consider it necessary to give 10 rubles there. for small expenses there , make sure that he has a tutor, that he goes to the gym, that he goes to some section, but

they completely forget about this component, and then this one, for example, is an image. yes, he is a sports-prepared young man, but he goes to less spiritual places, remote places and his mother then the question. and why or grandparents, and why did they forget? explain to me how you understand it? here we are, of course, on the whole, but only now we have actively stepped up our education system and in general. uh, in the country, this work on uh, really this kind of family history education last year. this is the first time we have conducted such an experiment with the ministry of education. yes, when at school, uh, without fail, in history lessons, children were given the task of finding the history of their holiday. well, i was even a supporter of this was done for evaluation. it is not easy to find an assessment, but there must always be some kind of motivation for your answer to be missed, this is the education system, including the education system, but e clearly needs to be understood. what kind of society do we live in, again, a consumer society, when all these spiritual things fade into the background and mother today is the same, but young. well, my parents are young, maybe a

little older than i am; today they don’t understand how knowledge is. and her great-grandfathers or her grandfathers, participants in the war, will affect son's welfare. she knows that money can affect, that the profession can affect. that there are some other such material ones. uh, so, uh, the nuances of our lives can make a person happy about it. she doesn't know why, because she was most likely brought up in school in the nineties. well, i'm there in the early 2000s. they are probably the parents of such older children, and in the nineties. we were not up to spirituality. we thought in the country. how to feed people so ensure a salary. and, of course, these questions missed. and today they are already parents and they do not consider it necessary that we did not teach them to tell our children at school. we have now begun to do this, but then again, if there is no this three emperors, the school of parents, the student, including the issues of education. we showed up at school today. uh, means responsibility for the patriotic education of the leaders of patriotic education. eh, and behold, this is their task today. every school has such a person

so that every student knows his great-grandfather, great-grandmother, at least one daddy's. on my mother’s side, this will be the most effective antidote against the falsification of history, and with such situations, cases in our country, dotted with monuments of the great patriotic war, it should be like in israel, auschwitz is located on the territory of poland, but every jewish family considers it their sacred duty to bring them there and for your own money. this is not a school to do not a state. e their children and show what will happen to the jew, if the jew does not defend and love his homeland, this is worked out for them on level of mentality, that's why they defend so vehemently today. we see our homeland, a constantly warring state is incomprehensible. why have we not worked out, but we have not worked out, because on the one hand , i say again, we missed these questions in the nineties relatively safely. the state that is not at war with us is calm, not that relatively, but the peaceful calm state is what we people are proud of. they simply do not believe that we can be different, that we can be, ukraine also did not believe in any way. five years ago or there 10, what could be cancer or and today, uh,

it's teraclivia in our south is located and therefore it is important for us here to convey many have already begun to understand today. and by the way, this year on may 9 you are right. i, when i was walking in the colony with my district october, yes, uh, past years, i saw our children, they stood with portraits that i gave them, let 's say, our generally nationally famous heroes of the soviet union, but often did not tell, yes, who is it what is it and well and the attitude was appropriate this year, yes, when in they received the assignment at schools, they are already standing. it can be seen because it has already been issued differently, but someone has some kind of printed , laminated files in the frame, but this is already their own and keeps it. he was already quite different; there were a few of them. well, somewhere like that, 20 percent, and now, when there will be 100% of schoolchildren with their own , it will be a completely different story, because he won’t put his own anywhere, he wo n’t betray the design. it also matters. you say that even in this nuance one feels a person, a schoolboy, has invested his soul. here in this poster or whatever its design, but the most

important thing is that he has already brought his own. he is his, even if for just printed on a piece of paper. he will never be thrown out anywhere, don’t stop treating him like a human being when the poles say that he survived another percent. and when the poles will once again write another duck that the red army is an army of invaders. the same as the wehrmacht partisan - these are marauders. they are the people's avengers, he will never believe, because he knows his grandfathers, well, how about it, my grandmother told me that my grandfather freed the hero, so there he took warsaw, berlin what kind of invader is he and this information will be from him, like a bullet bounce there. and if there is no such information, it is personal, then it is very easy to penetrate into the human brain today. technology fame. i agree very much with you that it is a long time relatively well-fed peacetime without any threats. ah, israel is an example. uh, it says the opposite, that only some kind of external threat is constantly a threat to make a person think, uh, including in this regard, think to show to educate one’s

the youth. and there today. oh, you see, they are fighting. god forbid, there is such a thing, both men and women are all and they don’t have any questions, so that we read somewhere that someone is shying away, it’s a sacred duty for them, because before them, before everyone’s eyes, auschwitz what will happen to them dads moms grandparents , if they don’t say that jews know how to defend this topic, so to speak, to articulate in society for many decades, and we remember, but that there was a genocide of the belarusian people, only in the twentieth year, yes, but this is again our mentality. nobody here is to blame. we are such people. well, although we have always talked about it, but we have said it, where in some narrow circles of historians, there politicians, statesmen in society, this topic was not especially awakened today at history lessons in history textbooks for students. this topic is marked today. e, khatyn brest fortress land museum of the great patriotic elite three objects. you must visit every belarusian and this is the task today for all

parents and schools and our civil society. society. i mean peony. all those who work with young people today are fighting, and then, of course, when these pictures are in front of their eyes . e, moreover, in addition to these three main objects of ours, there are more in every district in every region. in every city there are objects that need to be looked after . see that we are in the city even when it will work for us in samples, we did not implement such a project, we are a memory, well many projects. there, or hold promotions, events, lay flowers, but laying flowers is one thing. i noticed why we modernized this theme a little to lay flowers. this is one thing or there to clean the monument to take. eh, wash it, there is a monument, a pedestal or a plaque in memory, but this is one thing, but to study its history. who lies there or to whom it is dedicated to study yes, but only after that come, and then already there to put things in order. these children will have completely different eyes for they know a person. it let's just say a sign with some incomprehensible

interesting name, but for a person. knowing it naturally. people who in their lives are young guys of the same age, when they read how they gave for us to live now and already wash. they give it a completely different feel and flowers you absolutely. that is, it is already obtained not a duty, but already a ritual. now let's take a moment . let's take a break. after a short pause, we will return to this studio and continue our interesting conversation. on the air, say, do not be silent, and our guest is sergei klishevich, deputy of the house of representatives, sergei in connection with the events in ukraine, uh, that's all, more often, so to speak, disturbing news. here is one of them : the kiev regime is preparing a provocation on the territory of its country related to the detonation of the so -called dirty bomb or low-yield nuclear weapon and the purpose of the provocation. accuse russia of using weapons of mass destruction in the ukrainian

theater of operations and thereby launch a powerful anti-russian campaign in the world aimed at undermining confidence in moscow well on in my opinion, this is hardly the idea of ​​zelensky or the ukrainian authorities in general. yes, that is, it looks more like american handwriting. uh hmm what do you think, it has something to do with the november 8th us congressional elections, well i would say it's more like, uh, the handwriting of the uk they are the authors of these fakes that we saw in syria there, firing substances. yes, that's all for today. he knows perfectly well. these fakes operate there within one week, then it is clear that they either become uninteresting or they are exposed. they already does not work. i mean, uh, they need some kind of quick uh effect that will immediately inflict. uh, psychological information attack us people's brains are those that they need, yes, and in their interests. you and i yes, a testing ground for, uh, solving their american interests, no more, no less, so they can do whatever

they want. today we saw what happened to the gas pipeline. uh, we know what's going on in other countries states. uh, where do the americans start, so to speak , to manage it is clear what is inside for them the united states itself. there, apart from money, nobody is interested in anything. they fight for money exclusively, which is why republicans are democrats. it is clear that if somewhere the democrats now start to take over. eh, although thanks to them, this is no way. well, that means a very weak and figuratively filthy funny president, yes, a person who yes is the rating that collapses the parties in general of the united states of america while the republicans are moving forward, but the democrats may be quite right. you, with the help of your english allies, who are the authors of all possible provocations like these, the democratic party can raise their rating - this is the party of war, but today in the united states they vehemently advocate for this and e with such a weak president whose ratings bring down their ratings. they need to raise it somehow. here's a similar kind of provocation. can they

do it? why because already here are such provocations as bucci, they are no longer interesting to anyone. these are already used materials. yes , for the second time they tried the third time of this kind to carry out fraud the information did not help, something more serious is needed, this will be. uh, the topic is more serious, especially since well, you understand that the americans did not see the war in their own eyes. never always seen on tv. for them, it's a comic. how many americans have died like this? yes, but they didn't have a war in their house. they're the worst thing they've been through, er, so. it 's september 11th. uh, when they were destroyed, uh, they didn’t feel the twin towers like iraq was the target, or the same ukraine mikhailovich , they also cut each other out there civil wars. they had it so that they didn’t invent gunpowder, but already uh, those who remember their compatriots say that they are fellow tribesmen. and uh, those who saw, they are not there today, the new generation did not see, unlike uh, for example, our countries, which are in 1812. absolutely, that's why

for them all these showdowns, conflicts, provocation of terrorist attacks - it's like flipping through comics . this is meant for the simple, who are not prohibited, but for those who are in the pentagon, there and in other decision-making centers . e, defines these processes. it the purge comes back with no legs, no arms war veteran, they get and get shot in the pubes. it only means that somewhere he disagrees and goes to some kind of protest action. well, you can't call it a comic. this also applies to each particular person. i'm talking about, in general, about american society, if everything was so bad, the americans would not allow this, but they are silent. today it has been given power in the hands of the oligarchs who do what they want all over the world. they are not silent. they climbed on the capitol and even died. do you remember that they were shot there no power can hold if the people are against it, therefore, if people were really against it, they would be her families, but today this system is arranged in such a way that it is impossible to do this system. he did not arrange his that the people do not affect anything. i always bring you back to our reality. we also have a landfill. and after

snovsky, during a conversation with journalists, our alexander lukashenko gave his forecast regarding the third world war. let's listen to fear and foresee it. i'm afraid of everything. well, who today can say what not to break out? third world war? well, we are closer than ever to her, as never before, but i do not believe that the third world war will be. i don't believe because uh danger. well, the third world war will lead to the destruction of everyone and everything? well, who wants to die today? yes, it's a little chilly today. come on, pure bright sky, we have everything. why lose it? therefore, i do not believe that this will be the third world war. well , more than ever, we came close to her, as he rightly said to the utmost that it is unlikely that anyone sane can take such a step go, but uh there is another side of the coin. we see that not everyone today is sane in

the leadership of some countries. yes, there are simply frankly inadequate people who greet the air there, they don’t know where to go and it’s not known that, let’s say, a person who doesn’t even control himself can have anxiety in his head. there is definitely something in this matter, but again, i repeat that a person is always, uh, inclined to count on the best. that's how the president here, of course, speaks. well, you go around the city you look, well, what maybe there are nuclear wars yes and so on, so, of course, uh, here we must be ready for anything for everything for this. he though, how to prepare for it. i don't know, to be honest, yes, we are talking about, yes, about, uh, nuclear strikes, yes, we have a certain territory, if we are talking about some kind of conflict, then a little different song. let's say it more here, yes, a realistic picture, and we have a fairly strong powerful army, our special services. and we all need to be ready. why because, if the enemy knows that

we even have a man with minus eight vision can shoot, not to mention those who are in good physical shape. he will never fight this state. what are our partizans still percent. but if he finds out that we have slovenliness here, that even those who might not be engaged in war today are preparing to defend their homeland, their family, let's say this country. it's very big. eh, so let's say in belarusian they say pocus here. lacquer lacquer unprotected piece to profit, and we see what is happening in poland today, i, when we flew to portugal, we were invited by the communists, there, for e, one our party forum to our comrades. well, i had to pass through poland near the border with a huge accumulation of equipment, what i saw with my own eyes, these are not telegram channels. that is, there simply with us. although whoever drives here sees the roads there are quite narrow. uh, and quite a lot of equipment military eyebrow transporters of their tanks are moving around. today. this is no accident. we understand this there, poland, they have these ambitions of their own. uh, thirties

years still imperial and earlier they have been saved. today i do not wait for us to weaken. and we are not weaker, we are only getting stronger and stronger with each one, i agree with you. thank you very much for your optimism, sergey mikhailovich, despite the fact that your forecasts are different . we are pleased to be in such excellent intellectual physical shape. you ride a scooter, and you burn a ball in the ashes of your head. well, just smart and well done. thank you tatyana shcherbina victoria popova say goodbye to you today. goodbye. goodbye. and now he says sergey klishevich, dear friends, do we really have something to value, something to protect, someone to love and something to live for? let's evaluate what we have today , because indeed it is very much in most countries of the world, in most peoples of the world, this is not the case. we have, therefore, we are happy people, our task is to protect and pass on to our descendants.

guys, whose erudition any adult would envy, we read in the textbook that the greeks called those who spoke another language barbarians language. i'm not surprised, she is very well-read and prefers reading to physical education. lermontov said that he scored a charge. i thought hard in the cannon i’ll treat a friend, it seems to be so. well, i thought so, i'll treat you. i am such a perky friend

, uncle was, apparently. and they are not afraid of not knowing something. after all, it's not embarrassing at all. i believe that this is how we were told about it, and also excluded it. eh, tighter. what is it like? i don't remember who it is either. in principle, one can rule out who this intellectually entertaining show is. i know, but i kind of remember that when i read to uh peas friends. everything is fine with the teeth, then she who is the tutor teacher. thank you, watch on tv channel belarus 24. a program about unique personalities who break stereotypes with an example from their own experience even before

they got on paper, as they were published, it is a characteristic tool. all this can be portrayed as crying. you can cry on the saxophone. i hear very often. why do you need it? that's why you need it? why are you doing bullshit? that's why? what is it all for? just not without it i can say it's all nonsense when they say, oh, they pay little, we get little, there is a very simple answer, a little. go somewhere else, you can make money here. you can watch the program to break stereotypes on belarus 24 tv channel. they will always remain louder than the director, in

principle, it was hot. they call it even worse. what are you saying? and this even worse church church of st. glory is the oldest in our city, built in 1848, it does not happen to be a beloved child. yes, all the work they write is something invested, sincere senior, who was smart children. come on, you already, as it is, watch the good satchels of belarus with svetlana borovskaya on our tv channel.

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