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tv   [untitled]  BELARUSTV  October 27, 2022 1:05pm-2:06pm MSK

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so let's take a look back at the past week. well, for me personally, two such tracks were noticeable, about which, probably, it would be worth talking about, on the one hand, they seem to be not very connected, but on the other hand, they are connected like well, i don’t know, like twin brothers. the first is the ideology that the president talked about with alexander dugin, the second is our future electoral system, the electronic company of 2024. it seems to me that somehow they should be found in a bunch. e this position, these two. uh, two concepts why because? well, look at the weekend there were elections of the head. china's system is somewhere far away, again, for me it looks like the entire belarusian people's assembly. today there were elections of the prime minister of great britain. this is generally a situation that does not even
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matter to the supreme council. however, this is a kind of electoral event that allows you to get the head of one of the leading countries in the world. in our situation, when we talk about the fact that democracy is, again, an event that occurs only in the west, and we have always been outsiders observers and always taught on their own. suddenly abruptly. we are trying to be so democratic and decentralized. igor, you asked the president at the firing range on friday. the question is actually exactly what i personally thought, probably, after all, journalistic brains are not the same. we are talking about the fact that we grandfather are centralized. although the time is when power needs to be concentrated in one hand, because the situation is difficult. yes, it's all the same and ideology matters. why because? well, here we are marxist-leninist lost, and she was exactly about it. well, it seems to me that it is still such a tactical ideology. ah, when some kind of ideology
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is formed against the background of an external threat, or an internal threat, but still it comes, then when the acute period passes ideology - it disappears by itself for a long time on this, and you can’t build some kind of ideology. to be honest, here is most of the talk about the national ideology of the national idea for me personally, for me personally, the transfusion of more from empty to empty. as for me, the ideology of any country should be based on logic and common sense, but perhaps i would add one simple word justice here, uh, and it seems to me against the background of the word around the word justice that we are now slowly building a modern ideology. and when the president spoke about prices and not raising prices, and he said a cool phrase, yes , nothing about justice is written in economic laws. it's impossible to write, but it should be. i am extremely glad that such a conversation has just gone on. and as for modern e modern
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position of our country in our region, then, as for me, uh, some kind of democratization, whatever is meant now, under this word, in the face of an external threat. it won't be fair. and this would be rightly wrong, so only the centralization of power is tactical, and the strategies are narrower. and vns, as the highest collegiate body, and everything else is about what. we are now saying that it is written in our constitution absolutely right in continuing the theme of prices and democracy. that's interesting that 2 years ago when we were going to this studio. yes, after the events august twentieth. we talked a lot and for a very long time about how to make our electoral system more democratic. and how the belarusians can respond to their request and desire to participate in the political life of the country more actively time has passed. difficult situation and we all see that those who really want to bear responsibility will explain my
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thesis a little. here, just the same, returning to that very meeting on prices, after all. eh, the head of state very emotionally directly and rightly noted that those who are in our country, and people's choices. uh huh they as a matter of fact, they must breathe the problems of the people, they must rebroadcast them. and in the end, the people's choice is the only one in fact, how would the head of state only take care of this topic, the deputies ignored this thesis, given that the vns? some of the delegates will be just the same, the representatives of the national assembly, the question arises will those whom we elect be ready to make real decisions? uh, well folk questions. and in general, sergey probably has a question for you. how did it happen that the most popular and the deputies slammed the sore point, but
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the president was forced to raise it. well, i don’t agree with the thesis that they missed it, maybe it seemed to you, based on the meeting, to which you probably also participated, as a member of the pool, we have been dealing with these issues for a long time and, of course, it’s a system on a system basis. here, for example, i am a deputy people's choice. yes, i am a historian. we have teachers. we have doctors. we have a special commission. it is clear that coming to the store. i can only fix myself upon the fact, growth prices fair unfairly reasonably not justified should be dealt with by specialists. you have voters absolutely and when for sure, true, even on your profile, when voters applied, there was a corresponding reaction, we did not deal with it. price issues, that's just after a meeting with the president. this is a systematic work that was carried out even before that. and if it was not shown on tv, this does not mean that we did not do it. each of our movements is displaced and the person who turned to us is not needed. he has so
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say, nuances or suggestions on a particular issue. on pricing. we, of course, react or it was correctly said that the head of state constantly repeats if you are addressed. and you didn’t help, what kind of national holiday are you and this question, but can i finish this question, what does it concern the issue of responsibility, including our deputies at all levels, it concerns justice and the ability to fulfill, uh, the orders of their voters in all areas . we have only one problem with pricing. we have a bunch of others issues, both small and global, that we must deal with. and tell me, please, this question with prices, which eventually began to be decided by trade unions and deputies and other public figures. this is an economic , public or political problem, it is a complex complex systemic problem. and i’ll tell you something else, we also need to keep in mind our mentality and our features and system of the features of our public administration systems. after all, it happened historically. no one is
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to blame for this, that today and how would we be there, uh, not we talked about the fact that we are engaged in decentralization, that we have adopted a law decree e in logic. e of a person, including an official everyone is looking at who the head of state is and in order to change this, time must pass. this is not done on the click of a finger, and therefore there must be values ​​here. we had a program where we talked about public associations. i'll practically quote you. you said that white russia , in principle, was a socio-political organization. and now you are trying to stop these two concepts politically altogether socially and politically. well, somehow, again, for me it means ideologically savvy. with what ideology here. russia will go to the electoral elections for 24 years in this company and yet, well, what can we expect, but from public organizations you are often asked a question. will belaya rus party? if we talk about its main theses, this is ideology, then they
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are, firstly, it is support for the political course of the head of state. this is the realization of the principle of justice in all spheres of public life. this is e support foreign policy strategy. e of our country, which consists in the fact that we are creating a powerful integration entity in the post-soviet space, a union state, the eurasian economic space. and belarus, uh, if we talk about its ideology, this is healthy conservatism, which is expressed in the protection of the values ​​of life. i'm talking about the values ​​of the vera's homeland family. that is, that's all, that is, lgbt, let's say this . quite right. and so in the development of those ideas that igor spoke about, i would like to note the following here. i would object uh no maybe ideologies are the same everywhere. well, that is, in the basic sense, common sense is more the same here, but the mentality of society is different, and therefore our ideology should be the ideology of the belarusian society, growing out of its history and those formidable challenges that are thrown to our country
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today. and this unity of response to the problems of our time is the mobilization of one's own mentality of one's historical memory. it will give a very special ideology. but i will also note the following, that this ideology should be and can be, not only an ideology our country. it can become the ideology of the healthy forces of the world and here, belarus may well be the leader for a chance to get ideological symbolic leadership. why yes , because the whole world today is a normal healthy world is suffering. from what, from the decay of humanity from the fact that they destroy the family and the homeland, work, everything that makes a person a person is possible? damn, i'll interrupt you oleg alexandrovich, look. excuse me, alena , i just want to put this thought together for myself. excuse me, but dugin’s arrival is very many, it’s just that you just started talking about what thought. yes, this is not only the ideology of belarus - this is the ideology of common sense, exactly the one
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in which we understand it, and under yezdugin and his ideas of a turn to the east. it's still traditionalism. this is anti-liberalism. this did n't happen by accident. i think that this is quite natural, because e arc expresses these ideas, but our public association, like other public associations of the republic of belarus, has the same meanings. well, maybe not as outrageous as alexander gelievich does. well in uh and not so philosophical can be sophisticated, but the meaning , uh, is exactly that. i think that these are the meanings that you have just spoken, they may well be the ideology of both white russia and belarus alexandrovich, i’ll nevertheless voice the thesis with my teacher, she always spoke under the skin to herself like this, before swaying to teach uh, the whole world and offer you its ideology. let's deal with ours and yet, here we are, returning to what we started. hey, i have yuri. uh, probably the question for you you passed here these are all the stages from the twentieth year. yes
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, a lot has been done for the democratization of the belarusian society. in general, we have come to the point that, and very soon, a single day of voting awaits us. uh, the first one in the new format. yes, after the adoption of the updated constitution vns. we are fully. here the belarusian society is fully aware of the burden of responsibility that will fall on those who, well, it seems, are part of these 1200 people, or else. well, you know, we will look around all the time in the same way, mmm and think about who will tell us the right decision? who will decide for us some basic issues. you know, you put it very correctly. the question and indeed the measure of responsibility for it should be prepared by people and delegates as well, but how is it going on with us. that's right, sergei mikhailovich kozly igor means, uh, that we have as soon as
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some kind of crisis situation, first up to one scene, and before a crisis situation. give us authority. yes. uh, why do you close everything to minsk to the central government authorities for one person, as soon as the crisis situation, where is the president? why didn’t he solve the issue, that is, we have, uh, uh, the nature of power, yes, it corresponds to the mentality, and therefore, this can only be changed in an evolutionary way, if again the delegates are allowed to be all of the belarusian national assembly, which will be elected according to a certain procedure. uh, if they don't ask. some new trend is new, then it is a new discussion, then again , in the event of a crisis, we will look through the eyes of the president, who will sort everything out well, that he will always be with us. and if he is not with us, and this is the vulnerability political system. we are already here,
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because we are all well accustomed to the phrase, but support for the course of the head of state, but the fact is that now is the time when the head of state. let's be honest, busy with other issues more strategic, but in domestic politics and in external confrontation, and let's say 2 3 5 years ago. with this price increase. let's face it. lukashenko's meeting would have taken place earlier than it did this year. still, prices rose not in a day or a week, but alexander grigoryevich was objectively busy with other questions, so the sooner. we will reorganize from uh, not prepare some kind of decision for lukashenka's signature, because he will double-check everything and ask questions . the decision will not require adjustments by the president. just say well done uh-huh, we all need to grow up ourselves and not
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be afraid not to be afraid to make mistakes, because those who do nothing make mistakes. and let's say sergey mikhailovich is burning like deputies. uh, so they monitored prices, i i personally doubt it, let's say. now there are a lot of uh, that means such concrete examples of painful ones, for example, that affect the entire business now and the state, for example, the tenant landlords. you remember that for some time they were obliged to transfer rent from foreign currency to belarusian rubles. and what they did through various tricks. uh, some formulas turns out that rent has become even larger than it was when the currency was pegged. here is papa please specific cay. to which you can please excuse your attention, here the deputies were addressed. yes you must answer. i understand that every president has said this many times, everyone in our country should do business, if this happened, we have enough special bodies that should sort things out. it is clear
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that we can today, our main task is to help people in the first place. this is our first task and the second is to write laws. if i start digging now, it means i'm not an expert in rental pricing issues. uh, what then legally write i will create, how tomorrow people will be what laws rules to live a new life, and he must mind his own business. i think you have a task. we have a fairly extensive authority to involve a specialist in solving a rather problematic issue, which is what we, in principle, are doing, and today the right decision was made by a good state, again, yes, when the corresponding commission assembled developed an instruction today, any and that means a teacher and the doctor and milling turner can see and understand. yes, we are monitoring the center where the relevant ministry was, which is a specialist in this a sphere where the decision of those who, as you say , should each in their own place deal with
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a completely different device. sorry, i have a sequel. well, you know there is a proverb of the people's seminary, where are you without an eye. yes? in the morning, the daughter looks like. yes, therefore , you know, everyone was engaged, the deputies were engaged. uh, the union was involved, but the most important thing is who should be involved. we have the ministry of commerce these monopoly regulation. these are people with a fairly large staff, including in areas that must monitor and take decisive measures in order not to reach the level of a real president, who gives instructions on how to regulate the issues themselves. so what do you think, maybe we rushed to give, uh, well, the opportunity for people to participate in the political life of the country and make decisions with the federal tax service, maybe we overestimated our strength. we decided with the ministry of taxation because the vns - this idea did not come from above. this idea came from
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people. i know from my city, among the 23 proposals that we included in the constitution, there was, among other things, the transfer of constitutional status to the vns, so it came from people people. this is well understood. it's still we here we are now talking about democracy. so we need to teach someone or not. we don't have to teach anyone. let us teach and learn, and you know, working in the constitutional commission. uh, i studied the constitution. well, all our closest neighbors have the best constitution now. in my opinion, and democracy. we have enough people to listen to the proposals of the constitution discussed discussed the constitution by the people of the whole referendum was elected. now we are saturating the constitution, we will discuss the law on all the belarusian people's assembly will be. new electoral code to discuss what else do we need democracy? we are talking about a state for the people, so now it is just a state for the people. we are doing everything to see how it will work, it will work, but it very much depends on what people are worried about now, who will come, and
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it is clear that some of the delegates of the delegates will be representatives of the executive legislative judiciary and some of the delegates. there will be deputies. yes, they will be of different levels, but not have a manda from the people. but people are concerned about the third part of civil society. who will be the civil society, who will represent the people? it is very now here in the meetings collectives. look, we are talking about what comes from the people. yes, in history it was clear such a kind of slavic evening. yes , from which the people were going. here, as far as i know history, people just gathered in the square and voted. well, initially it was little said to the people, whatever. here we choose people. ah, but on the other hand, to what extent these people will be competent to solve these issues. that's how much, but in fact, because many, for example, are delegates to the entire belarusian people's assembly of the last convocation, but they do not always resolve these issues. here on the ground, how
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okay we are here in minsk, people are preoccupied, doomed to high positions, but on the ground, as the police say. yes , people know the problems a little more. people are more aware of the problems and their problems. they will, uh, pass on to those people who will represent all these to the belarusian assembly. and after all, one should not think that the entire belarusian people's assembly is a kind of body that will be radical. yes, he will decide to submit a proposal, but the people are saying that we have a presidential republic, we should have a head of state, people told me at the last meeting. and what is it if the president that will not decide anything. no, the president will decide everything. this is assistance to both the president and the parliament. this is insurance for the people. so don't say what when i will remove the comparison with the chinese congress, it is similar. i don't think we have other scales and i'm not talking about scales. i'm just talking about the concept of a colleague. here, if possible, an example about it seems, yes, to make it clear. well, if you allow it,
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it means, uh, in our history we already had a cpsu congress; it did not replace the nice cpsu nor the ministry of the government of the soviet union and other public organizations. we gathered all different segments of the population and ordinary people of the party, who are scientists, cultured guys. they determined the country's development strategy for a five-year period, essentially the same most. no, here, let's navigate. china - this is a different tradition, a different civilization. there are other approaches. we have. i tell her in history, it seems that this was already the congress of the cpsu no, rather, the congress. the people's deputies are more like, but there are people's deputies ending badly. i still wanted to just eat, which means, uh, the cpsu, yes, to say that after all, it seems to me that this form is more suitable. yes, well, of course, we do not copy in any way. he said about e, the unity of mentality ideology, after all, we are leaving mentality for this. hello e, equalostoria history is history and in history we already had it , when the congress was going to repeat once again, when the course was determined and the people. there were completely different professions. and milkmaids and
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professors, they sat, uh, determined the course of the country, and all the other authorities were already fulfilling this course, so uh, answering your questions is not necessarily there to bring together thin narrow specialists lawyers who will be there isolate the question. there must be representatives of the people, because we have a people's form of government of ours, you consider it a representative of the civil society. at the moment without e, legal equils. here at the moment. are you ready, as a representative of civil society, to get in, i believe that wars should not be represented by single people, in this regard. so, when sergei was, the thesis was voiced that everyone is guided by the vector of the president. i have a question. the state apparatus is more possible, but when you said about the locksmith, the milkmaid of others, these are people who are not price-setters, they are mostly consumers, but we have almost half economy, not a state-private one, which is in many respects price-forming for these same consumers. they
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have this vector with the president, one single question, because there is no commercial business. why yes, they have money, and they probably thought about it two or three years ago. today. they are thinking about how they can calmly and peacefully go home and no rockets have landed anywhere, and therefore today, when we communicate with our citizens, by the way, with the business community, by the way, we have become more active now a dialogue platform, including, first of all, business with collaborators. there is a question there. support. tell me, help us, how can we make sure that another course is put forward for the president. here is the question. here is your answer. this is a good platform for stimulating this very political optimism, which alyona spoke about at the very beginning . you do not you can apply anywhere. this is mindless activism. he is useless movement for the sake of movement. that's why military personnel. yes, and an ordinary citizen. so,
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if you add it up, this is just such a step, that is, in fact, a social lift, yes, that is, if you have, now, if i want to be a delegate in inessa, it seems to him that you can enter into white russia belarus, in the same way as you can run for parliament or joint councils of deputies and other structures that will direct the delegates' people's assembly, but here i think it will be the question is as follows, that the responsibility already falls on the structure of civil society, whom they will delegate to the entire belarusian people's assembly, and this is already our concern. it is our responsibility to ensure that e is implemented. e the one, then the requirement that we just talked about is professionalism , motivation, concern for general power, who will? well, you are the head of other public associations, who will be admitted to the national assembly, i will decide. won't i decide in uh higher governing bodies. eh, the organization, namely the congress, the congress will direct, but yes, this is the
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structure of civil society associations , they will be given such a right by law, and this means that this is our work and our responsibility. well, even if you look right. our main public organization from the crowd of our civil society is actually a society of 4 million trade unions, which means that there are 300,000 white russia with this 200,000. uh, there's 380,000. uh, the belarusian republican trade unions in the belarusian union of journalists in belarus have a chance increases just to the point that i'm doing statistics. i do statistics everywhere, and i'm just talking about this, let's get off what we're talking about civil society. it's all people and relationships. i am a civil society, the most enterprising active people who want to move their country forward. and if you are very active in white russia, of course, you will be noticed. if you are active in the union, women, of course, will notice you on their own. is there. and
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what does it mean by yourself you are yourself or for the country? he says you can't be alone give in. vns. he is against leaving. then you will be yourself, she is a citizen from belarus. why another colleague, and what will she present at least from the moment? well, that is , the fact is that from the moment of the election of the first delegates, and to the all-belarusian people's assembly, let's say, according to new rules and with a new role. the process of forming the role of the supreme people's council. he won't end. i will say one such thought, which seems to me so clear that, well, hmm, it just might be rarely spoken out loud while the president is in belarus alexander grigoryevich lukashenko and i will say more deeply. and even if he holds some other position, but will be present in the political field of the country. all real power will be thank god for alexander grigoryevich lukashenko and for the time that power will continue with him.
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it will help to form a real worker in the country, and we will call it that, the body of the entire belarusian people's assembly of the future, because otherwise the functionality of the vns will not work in a different way. it will work, or if we are talking about some kind of danger, god forbid that earned only after someone else was president in belarus. well, in fact, the president talked about this about the fact that i am not eternal. god bless him, but really. the point is that this structure is really for the future, but that’s exactly why igor started talking, because we are laying some kind of step into the future, but on the other hand, now this step may not be worth it do, because, well, as if democracy is not needed now. well let's say so, it's the one on my mind, on my sight. this is the step that, well, today, let's say soft, is not of the greatest importance, because this is a strategic decision for later, eh, but you need to get to it to mature and see how it will work.
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well, because everything they have for months or a year. it is clear everything that we are discussing here in a democratic society. eh, then who will represent. in general, there is a parliament for this, right? that is, if we also create a vns, then the federal tax service is the head of the presidium of the vns, there is a parliament with two chambers, then it is clear that this has been discussed a thousand times at dialogue platforms, but perhaps we still need to talk about it we are talking about the theoretical basis of the constitution, we are talking about the real, maybe again talk to the people. this is absolutely right. and this work has already begun. eh, literally. uh, since friday. uh, a network of dialogue platforms is being deployed across the country. when will it be the same large-scale, as it was before the referendum on the constitution, and here are all those difficult questions that you formulate, that
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people will formulate. they will be discussed at these dialogue platforms and laws. it changes the electoral legislation of political parties. they were worked out in great detail. and society will not be left with any questions. at least the one who wants to ask a question. he will receive answers to it, they expect these bills to change, changes are already underway, though certainly. but there is more that i wanted mark. here is the context of the dialogue pad. who today saw dialogue platforms in germany in france maybe in america someone discusses some laws with the people. this is also our political tradition of dialogue platforms. i know that there are different dialogues. there are sites, when people come to ask sharp questions. sometimes unpleasant to me as a speaker. i have to answer uncomfortable questions. and sometimes i perfectly understand what the dialogue platform is like. uh, there are 30-40 people, plus or minus employees of the executive committee, in who was prompted. what questions
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to ask always arrived good dialogue platforms. we are with you. which 100% satisfy some law, all clarity. no. our task is as much as possible for us. what to work out or offer or to reach everyone as they say, we came to you, we suggested, and then the person already has the moral right to ask later, if the decision is made, he was a witness, he could participate, but he did not participate, he disappears and already here his conscience plays, when they call you to go outside or perform some other actions, so our task is here. yes, that's what you said, we need to talk with the people, and we have experience of talking with the people. see. what are the results of the referendum received after the twentieth year. it worked, it worked , just the same opportunity for public discussion.
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we are talking about the ideology of the electoral campaign with you aleksey sergeevich gedukevich alexander sergeevich everyone, but look, the electoral company will consist of communists, white russia ldpb. just good. ok. so. here. tell me, and how will the ideology differ. and how to stand out so the first will never be a country with the same point of view. this is a terrible country. even in the same class. i studied at school or at the institute, there is no such group where everyone has the same opinion. this is a fairy tale, a lie, the second, but at the same time, these opinions should , uh, go in no direction, and within the framework of something, these frameworks should be like this determine the people and beyond these limits can not go. now i will explain in detail, simple and understandable for people. here we adopted the constitution. the majority of its people have accepted these rules of the game for all political forces and for the whole country further. we will have the entire
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belarusian national assembly, which now meets every year, well, according to the law that we will first adopt. they also receive this light. all the people further. and now we have parties and politicians and for a second we present our constitutions written two state languages ​​written for a reason it is hard-won time. and this is the guarantee that our country will never be divided on the national religious issue, the second question is written free health care free education, this was determined by the people and the flag, for example, we determined the state emblem. here it hangs developing over the country, and then a politician appears who says the two states will not have their language. this means that education will not be free. not our flag. you know the twentieth, don't you? these are the politicians we shouldn't be. and the fact that we will continue to argue with klishevich about the economy and politics
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is absolutely normal, moreover, even now, when someone says that there are no discussions in parliament. this is the biggest spoon, which may be, there is no bill on which there are no discussions, when a commission is in session, it’s not just emotional emotions, but with the facts, deputies have completely different opinions on some issues. but these basic things should not change. why destroy the country, and another point. let's go back to the beginning, for why we adopted the constitution, why one of the moments that no one has ever hidden is that we think that in 10-15 years. who would not be elected president. whoever is elected to parliament, he has no right to destroy everything that we have achieved. otherwise we are ad infinitum. let's start building the country. first, the communists took over, only the communists in parliament won the parliamentary elections. i exaggerate or took a democrat or
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one in general took belarus or voskresensk, people went crazy and everyone voted for sunday. in fact, whatever the parties have a program, it has no right to destroy everything that has been achieved over the years. here we are, this is the whole point and when someone says that there will be no alternative point of view. this is a lie, it will only be comrades of politics, this is world practice. show me in europe or in america where there are actually two parties . yes, they are different, but which of them can destroy the state structure. trump became president, what did he change? listen, alex has changed. in england, there is no constitution at all, i’ll tell you about the uk, the jokes finish kachinsky. there is a joke they still know something about kaczynski. duda, yes, here comes duda to kachinsky, like a dog , akashinsky took and signed why because
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uh, the system, uh, before duda, what he says kachinsky makes we have more and more democracies than in poland, and the adoption, uh, of the constitution and the law on the entire belarusian assembly will be more more of her. ilya but the opinion is still not expert, not political. i still think, it’s right how democratic we are to everyone in that we are now introducing the concept of vns, and again i will give the example of great britain you know china, we are so democratic that even in the lower house of parliament, almost 80% of deputies are not independent party candidates. listen, our democracy is so stable two party two portraits oleg sergeevich, in my opinion, you are the only one from the ltp in the lower chamber. yes, wait, you say we have, uh, a small party representation in parliament is a fraud. why do we have elections not according to the party list, if in russia the elections were not held according to the party lists, and believe me, in the houses of the districts, except for united russia and one person from the liberal democratic party and
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there were no two communists there, moreover, we have a good representation of the party, but if we were now here, our party defends the party lists, here. i have always advocated that the elections be proportional to the majoritarian system of half and half. so why can't it be done now. it will be artificially the party is underdeveloped . we will not make elections for one ldp and the communists. this is wrong, belarus is not a party. the rest of the heroine, according to the lists, of course, is not a professional, the people supported the tv presenter team. we now we are changing the electoral legislation, but we are not switching to a proportional system. but we do more. today we are adopting a new law on political parties. what will it be the law want secrets. so this is exclusive information. let me not be offended. but it's true we're all for it. and i won't tell you all the details. there will also be a discussion in parliament. there will be some more suggestions. we will watch it, but we already understand the meaning of the law, it will be
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aimed at ensuring that the parties become a real political force, for this we will tighten the legislation, bring re-registration and set a serious bar. well , sports are now going either 5,000 or 10. you know, this party should have structures. why, so that people know if the party has been restructured, this is not one person with a seal and a piece of paper, but a real political force behind which people of structure and ideology stand here should be the current 15 and in your opinion. how many left two means, uh, 2-3 maximum, so i don’t see, i don’t want to offend anyone anymore, there is, uh, the party that i i head there are communists there are rpts there. uh, this is the third party, in my opinion, that exists more. how can he create it after all, parliament, judging by your words. let the law be registered, register. go to the polls. in any case, all changes are aimed at ensuring that key decisions about the fate of our country are
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not made by random people , people who, well, somehow more than fate, i don’t know , were at the right time in the right place and fulfill their obligations. no country in the world there is no such thing that you woke up and wanted to become the president of this activity. i absolutely agree that it is normal to protect yourself from such random people by electoral laws and filters. we are creating them now. so here we are now . uh, do it, be the belarusian assembly, which if someone goes crazy or starts suggesting idiocy, they will remove it, it’s all spelled out in the law. the second lukashenka spoke about this many times, why because there is a risk that a populist will come to power, i’ll tie a simple example comes out presidential candidate and says i will continue the course that was previously elected. and if we do not make filters, after six months he betrays and does everything. on the contrary, we will do the same. you know, it is necessary
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to make the electoral legislation to filter them to the parliament. we do it too . here, for example, now. uh, what are we talking about, what will we never do, like in moldova where? excuse me people who live in romania for 20 years vote and never in the interest. moldova will not vote. we are now talking about those who who over 20,000 with something people live more. well, second point. take germany 's electoral law. we will now elect there to make a guess and speak to you. there you won't become a buddha mp until you pass the local lanta so that's a normal filter. and in our twentieth year, some fool wakes up and says. that's like a babarik. i remember swimming in the river. i want to become president, because it’s generally normal, or something, where in which country of the world, that is, the name of a deputy has become a minister, go way and get together in parliament, and then, go somewhere profile, if possible, i will add two
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words god wait for the sensational program already. yuri look here. yes, you are now representing, uh, almost everything in a round column, and at the moment this status is enough. or you have a run, like any politician entering the vns entry into parliament. well, of course, we are on this road, uh, and uh, so we plan to go very well, it is very important that we are acquiring these rules with procedures, including taking the best from europe, practices. yes, that is, we are creating our own political constructor. this will help us strategically. well, yes, not for one year, not even for decades. that's why you have to walk this path is another matter, which is really another matter. uh, uh, the nearest time after the adoption of these bills will have to pass. uh, the election campaign is just around the corner. and here i personally have, for example, a big question. taking into account that
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geopolitical situation, taking into account that geopolitical situation. she won't get worse. we we see that before the discharge. more far, as it means, even if we focus on some shortcomings, so that external e, players do not take advantage of this emphasis, it turns out that we all should praise the authorities. or as if forever to exclude an external factor. now on point never. we will no longer listen to opinions. there in poland, how they relate to our elections, and those countries that have imposed sanctions, they have nothing to do here at all in our elections, in general, the way they order. this is once and for all. we must forget the second point. we are now removing the polls sites abroad. it does absolutely right. why won't they let us hold fair elections there? they will not allow the layer there to work normally, and
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everything and everyone vote plus and they will do it. so everything is sulphated there. i'm sure they will intervene and interfere with the choice. there, honest ones will sell it, they won’t let them hold the third moment, we will never be allowed to vote again. political forces, let's tell the truth, we allowed them in the fifteenth year and in the sixteenth and in the twentieth funding from the outside and in the tenth. especially, who is financed from the outside into politics, the path is closed and the fourth fact, and what have we done? we are an information space. now we defend much better than before. remember how we held elections in the twentieth year and in the sixteenth year. we practically could not control the information space. we were under pressure from all sides. now we have done a huge amount of work in this direction for 2 years. and now i do not want to praise anyone. uh, i'll use the words of my father, who was in politics for 30 years. he says, i am very pleased to turn on the tv. why because i see how many patriotic journalists there are. and most importantly, they are no longer afraid to talk about politics.
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they talk, honestly openly, about both sharp issues and angles. to be honest, this is the open belarusian society. in my opinion, while the parties are not ready quite calmly. when will they ask? what kind of parties are there, and what kind of ldpb is it for people to be the party of gaidukevich, the communists will be the party of klishevich, and the dimsil round table will be the party of voskresensky and people will associate image, the leader of the personality, white russia is a party. lukashenka yes. eh, the vector is necessary, but again, it will take some time, maybe before people have the perception that the party is not only its leader for the time being. in my opinion, parties can be criticized and should be criticized all over the world , but world politics has not come up with an alternative than the party for
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political activities. we must clearly understand the street or legal political activity. so now we are creating conditions. accepting the law perfectly true for development. well, the communists, soon the holiday struggle was not only between the parties for power and within the party from this party movement our belarusian know-ha is going nowhere. we have a political system. so we are all about parties. yes, i agree that our party is still weak. although i also represent the communist party. this, i think, is the most powerful party in belarus, but almost i am the most powerful, but we have the role of political parties on an equal footing, no matter how much we want to play our main public associations. they are they participate in elections, they show their position on social and political issues, in fact, in our political system. this is our belarusian know-how. they play the role of political forces. and there, uh. yes , it’s understandable, too, with leaders, perhaps they are
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associated, but they permeate our entire society, as we have already said, public organizations are associated with one leader, but one question here is correct, an amendment, but one question means the only difference. they don't fight for power. well, how does a party differ from a public association in all other questions. this is practically a public organization at the legislative level, we, uh, sort of put, yes, accents red flags. we have drawn conclusions from the twentieth year. we hope it's unique. those mistakes were somehow insured, but here is what oleg sergeevich mentioned and praised the information field. i get the impression. well , probably from the fact that you shouldn’t fluff your tail so much and relax and say that we are direct, but we succeeded and we are ready to understand that, well, there too there are people who follow our every movement. and for every action we take,
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they have five countermeasures. maybe even more powerful ones, it is sometimes worth recognizing, too. igor what do you think, in the time that we have left before the electoral campaigns, what should be done? the information field and whether some bans and restrictions on attempts to control and the ability to control will solve this issue, i will say very simply on one simple example, and many journalists are central. media, including several months have seen that prices are rising as well, but talking about it and criticizing it is not yet very accepted up to the moment. until criticism comes from the head of state. there are various reasons for this. the issue is not criticism. for the sake of criticism, go out to scold everyone, but discuss and ask why? what ways to highlight the problem somewhere, to highlight possible solutions so far on such sensitive topics, but in the information field of reaction. no, that's not
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accepted. why do i have an opinion on this. and i somehow already publicly said this in one of my programs. i think that we still have excessive touchiness of the heads of departments. if we criticize ministries and subdivisions for any criticism from television people, then we do not conditionally attack the ministry of antimonopoly regulation of trade, but we see that our people have a problematic issue that concerns them. they want an answer. they want to understand that something in this issue is somehow solved, and they need to respond to this, and not pretend that the problem does not exist. we are still playing some kind of political game, when if you you criticize the pro-government, so you know you're bad right away? no, i am absolutely everything for this and the parties are needed so that people know where to turn stamps at the level of parliament at the level of local council somewhere with deputies constructively raising this problem, and i agree. we don't have to be afraid to criticize. here we are, by the way, when
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we talk about the entire belarusian assembly. i am deeply convinced that when we form, here again is a new convocation. there will be different points of view, moreover, and that we do not know the history of our russian congregations in ourselves. i will tell you, that people got there. this in itself is a russian collection of completely different layers of completely different professions. and that one also discussed inside and the president laid down various proposals regarding certain decisions. this is also, though the question is different, that we don’t let radicals go there, and we won’t let them in now, why are they needed there? what do you have to say? i'm talking about this buffer, and so that random people do not get into politics, well, the highest echelons of power. this is understandable. this is the constitution, everything was clearly painted there, there was a lot of discussion parties, they will help, but in the regions it is necessary that there is a very good electoral code, which he is now working on, and that this sieve can be used there, so that really random people do not pass. well, if we say that we are doing everything for the
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future that is possible, the first navy will not fulfill its function entirely. yes , as we would like, maybe, but anyway, the road has always been mastered, the one who starts to walk it. and, probably, the words of the president sunk into me when at the last meeting. he told us before we started working on the constitution, he said, when you work. do you remember that according to this constitution in the future to live in your children and grandchildren here, proceeding from this. i think we are on the right course, it is obvious that, otherwise what i was talking about, yes, delegates, anc, are elected for 5 years, and during these 5 years , anything can happen and with any kind of crisis situations. we may collide , then it turns out that we must approach the elections of deputies at all levels as responsibly and prepared as possible, since. they too will be delegates to the vnc, and to those whom we will call civil society, because what
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right will these people be given within 5 years. well, to decide the fate of all nine million belarusians there. i would know that i combined your proposal, your approach , with the question that you asked igor about information policy. that is, it is possible to make a filter in this approach, but completely, for example, to fail the information policy correctly means, and here the foundation of the foundations should be, it should be, however, transparency openness, calm discussion. uh, because you remember in soviet times. it seems that there were filters and 26 million members of the cpsu and, as for the million, uh, law enforcement officers and special services, and none of them came out, because therefore, uh, journalists now also have a special role, a special responsibility and you need to use it , remember how the president said, you can't use fakes in any case. this may be effective, but short-term openness
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is our weapon and look. uh, now on these uh fugitives. yes they have nothing to offer politically. they are now starting to beat, looking only in the economy for friends, that we are developing, given the best transitions of european even states , alyona absolutely said correctly, which means that our opponents are preparing for us, no one will let us spend the 24-25 year in peace. you don't think i dislike the most. if now somewhere in the region the hat begins to be thrown everything is fine. all is well by the twenty-fourth of the twenty-fifth year they will try. the country is not just shaken, but destroyed. this is what you need to understand, so the filters, oh, which you now speak is extremely important. but it is even more important to completely exclude, i repeat, the external factor once and for all. we owe everything that we will do now, and this is the merit of our constitution. we talked about this in this studio. we wrote the constitution for ourselves did not look. we don’t need to go to europe, there’s nothing to take from there , the same now selectivity to think and
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elections for ourselves. i remember the meeting with the president, when he speaks with natalya ivana kachanova, when they discussed it, he says, i am very sorry that we did not agree there that elected presidents in the eu yeah. he even knows that he had that we still sometimes, when we write legislation, look back. we still look back. and how is it in the west, and how is it going on with them, and how is it, and how can we forget about it now, do everything for ourselves, no one cares about us, except for ourselves, so we must write legislation. now you are right, selective in the region. so that the filters are for themselves and their country. what will they say? excuse me at the obse, what will they say in some international dead organizers nothing good, everything sergeevich i still, probably, understand what my gennadievich was talking about here, e, about the electoral legislation at the local level. after all , first the deputies of the local soviets, then this, well, let's start the first step. yes, let's start moving along this political
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ladder, and if a person conditionally became a deputy of the local council , he served his cadence. just sitting, uh, exactly at your workplace at your desk. then further where he moved, then he what my result will be, uh, have the output here it is important that people are interested. as you say, once upon a time alena ’s party would come in handy for us, why we don’t need to take experience from everyone, but in russia there are good practices, a faction, a party in the state duma elected a betrayed deputy, a faction gathered, threw him out of the faction and forgot. because this is also a filter and a leader, the parties that you speak of are oriented, people are responsible for each of their deputations. the example of poland is the eightieth year. there is no attempt by solidarity to take power , there is no example of poland, the prime minister is negative, as maybe how can you lose a country? there
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, too, they wanted to immediately take the power to take the color revolution, but it didn’t work out, and that solidarity decided, it penetrated the komsomol, the party bodies, the trade unions and 10 years later. poland became anti-soviet and, in fact, a coup d'état in this country was struck, so we also need these people capable of ideology until the twentieth year climbed with us everywhere they were everywhere both on television and parliament and in state bodies, and they climbed in and there really are now counted needed. and because we used to sit for everything lukashenka's back and knew that when the situation was a little bit. he will go further and decide, and now we are doing about what's next in 20-30 years, who will hit the table. and if a fool comes, some. excuse me, anything can deceive. that's what we're thinking about right now, filters to the belarusian assembly, in addition to democracy, this filtering thing should be done. and this is a very important law, so now we have submitted it to the entire public discussion, because every
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belarusian should now treat it like the constitution, when we went to discuss we have seen the interest of the people in the constitution, and now someone is arguing. ai adopted the constitution. let the deputies write the law themselves . psychos. lord turn on. discuss, propose, and it will indeed be a nationwide document. journalists should also get involved in this, public journalists. after all. one also depends on a lot of things, because , well, in the twenty-fourth year, journalists should come no less motivated than deputies and party deputies, journalists, some, it seems, are even underestimated in the future politicians political scientists. because it is a journalist who is a person who can pull out interesting ideas for someone, but at the same time he takes on social responsibility , that if i bring someone into the media field, he will remember who wrote about him and interviewed him, therefore, in this case, for me, in principle, the idea of ​​​​these filters itself is what i hear it is interesting, but the question arises, which we are releasing now during the entire ideology program, how this filter will be configured, it may be simpler
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that - we don’t need, for example, maybe parties, in which 75% of the founder didn't go through uh being a delegate. vns, perhaps, and if a limited number of organizations decide this, then the question of this very transparency immediately arises. and where did the criteria for these very filters come from? that's all the law, we must prescribe in the laws not in one, but in several, that is, starting from the entire belarusian people's assembly. our next stages are the electoral legislation , the law on political parties, the law on civil society, these laws. they will be these physical trainers, it will take this day this is the acceptance that we have to do everything in time for the election campaign and we will, that is, for you to understand the parliament, according to the new constitution, it works all year round. we do not have an autumn autumn session. we 're working all the time, so now, uh, we'll be accelerating already. that is, we must by summer by summer, and the main package of e-documents for acceptance is already premium. i will 100% briefly supplement this task. unfortunately, everything in the laws is not practical. ah. i am personally concerned
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about a fairly basic question in all belarusian the people's assembly. and i understand that, for example, different people can become delegates. i don’t mean anything, i don’t have anything against it, but i would prefer that professionals decide, and the list on the vns, also elected by people of such professions, and there, like an ordinary engineer, a mechanic, and so on, and this looks very poppy and populists, but in fact, as for me, it’s wrong, and the sky didn’t want this at the end. i would like to remember. uh, just the same phrase was said on the main state on friday during communication journalists that we must do everything for ourselves and make only those decisions that we need, and if you don’t feel the strength in yourself that you can pull responsibility for some of your decisions, then just don’t take it and don’t even start. well, i will probably formulate the current dialogue for me, which consists of three words justice president's union. ether
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