tv [untitled] BELARUSTV October 27, 2022 8:00pm-9:01pm MSK
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that is, adequate response measures to such actions of economic terrorism i am sure that the agreement reached during today's meeting will contribute to the implementation of existing opportunities for the development and strengthening of a long-term partnership of strategic partnership between our countries in march 2023, belarus iran will celebrate the thirtieth anniversary of diplomatic relations within the framework of this event, scheduled days of culture conferences, round tables and seminars. apparatus presented at brest regional oncology center therapeutic hypothermia equipment was presented by specialists in the field of medicine from the sister city of brest izhevsk. this device is so far the only one in belarus , our doctors received it for temporary use. equipment is produced in russia among the advantages of the russian device. the price, which is lower than european counterparts, and a wide range of applications, the equipment is used for resuscitation purposes to protect the brain. in the active phase of treatment and prevention
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of hair loss during chemotherapy, the use of such equipment will improve the quality of life and treatment of patients in the dispensary provide training for specialists who will use the device in their work if it is successfully tested. belarusian clinics will be able to purchase such equipment. the legendary pesnyary ensemble has dedicated its new composition to the film festival falling leaves before the start of the minsk international film festival in a little less than a week , the opening ceremony will traditionally be held at the capital cinema moscow the belarusian state ensemble, pesnyary, which has recently been awarded the title a well-deserved team recently returned from a tour. and now the musicians are working on the arrangement of the song dedicated to the film festival, the composition conveys all its essence and mood for the first time to hear the gold of falling leaves. it will be possible on november 11 at the closing ceremony of the film festival, where will the awards be presented?
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the talk show is essentially in the studio of kirill kazakov and alyona harsh so let's summarize the results of the past week a little. well, for me personally , two such tracks were noticeable, about which, probably, it would be worth talking about. they are from one side, sort of like not very related, but on the other hand related like well, i don't know, like twin brothers. the first is the ideology, about which the president spoke with alexander , the second is our future electoral
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system, the electronic company of 2024. it seems to me that somehow they must find this position in conjunction. here are the two. uh, two concepts why because well look at the weekend there were the election of the head. china's system is somewhere far away, again for me. it looks like the entire belarusian people's assembly. today there were elections of the prime minister of great britain . this is a situation in general, which even to the supreme council does not matter. however, this is a kind of electoral event that allows you to get the head of one of the leading countries in the world. in our situation, when we talk about the fact that democracy is, again, an event that takes place only in the west, and we have always been outside observers and have always taught the whole world. suddenly abruptly we are trying to be so democratic and decentralized. igor, you asked the president at the firing range on friday. the question is here
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in fact, exactly what i personally thought, probably, after all, journalistic brains are not the same. we are talking about the fact that we are decentralizing. although the time is when power needs to be concentrated in one hand, because the situation is difficult. yes, it's all the same and ideology matters. why because? well, we lost the marxist-leninist one, but it was just a project. well, it seems to me that it is still such a tactical ideology. ah, when some ideology is formed against the background of an external threat, or an internal threat, but still it comes, then, when an acute period of ideology passes , it disappears on its own for a long time on this, but you can’t build some kind of ideology. to be honest, here is most of the talk about the national ideology of the national idea for me personally, for me personally, the transfusion of more from empty to empty. as for me, the ideology of any country should be based on logic and common sense, but, perhaps, i would add one simple word justice here, uh, and it seems to me that against the background
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of the word around the word justice, we are now slowly building modern ideology. and when the president spoke about prices and not raising prices, and he said a cool phrase, yes , nothing about justice is written in economic laws. it's impossible to write, but it should be. i am extremely glad that such a conversation has just gone on. and as for the modern e modern position of our country in our region, then, for me, uh, some kind of democratization, no matter what is meant now, under this word, in the face of an external threat. it won't be fair. and it will be fair wrong, so only the centralization of power is tactical, and strategies are narrower. and vns, as the highest collegiate body, and everything else is about what. we are now saying that it is written in our constitution absolutely right in continuing the theme of prices and democracy. that's
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interesting that 2 years ago when we were going to this studio. yes, after the events of august 20. we talked a lot and for a very long time about how to make our electoral system more democratic. and how can belarusians respond to their request and desire to participate in the political life of the country time has passed more actively. difficult situation and we all see that those who really want to bear responsibility will explain my thesis a little. here, just the same, returning to that very meeting on prices, after all. eh, the head of state very emotionally directly and rightly noted that those who are in our country, but the people's choice. ugh they are. as a matter of fact, they must breathe the problems of the people, they must relay them. and in the end, the people's choice is the only one in essence, as if the head of state is only this the topic was attended to by the deputies, they ignored
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this thesis, given that the vns? some of the delegates will be just the same, the representatives of the national assembly, the question arises will those whom we elect be ready to make real decisions? uh, well folk questions. and in general, sergey probably has a question for you. how did it happen that the deputies slammed the most popular and sore question, but the president was forced to raise it. well, i don’t agree with the thesis that they missed it, maybe it seemed to you, based on meeting, to which you probably also participated, as a member of the pool, we have been dealing with these issues for a long time and, of course, the matter is systemic on a systemic basis. here, for example, i am a deputy people's choice. yes, i am a historian. we have teachers. we have doctors. we have a special commission. it is clear that coming to the store. i can only fix myself on the fact that the rise in prices is fair unfairly reasonably
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not justified should be dealt with by specialists, and therefore the president he has already said, you have voters absolutely when voters applied there was an appropriate reaction we did not deal with. with questions of prices that's just after a meeting with the president. this is a systematic work that was carried out even before that. and if this was not shown on tv, this does not mean that we did not do this, every move we make, and we don’t need to, that person is the person who turned to us with a problem. he has, let's say, nuances or suggestions on a particular issue of pricing. we, of course, react, or it was correctly said by the head of state, natalya ivanovna, constantly repeats, if they turned to you, but you didn’t help, what kind of national holiday are you and this question is what it concerns the issue of responsibility, including our deputies at all levels, it concerns justice and the ability to fulfill, e, the orders of their voters in all directions . we have
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only one problem with pricing. we have a bunch of other issues, both small and global, that we have to deal with. and tell me, please, this question with prices, which eventually began to be decided by trade unions and deputies and others social activists. this is an economic , public or political problem, it is a complex complex systemic problem. and i’ll tell you something else, we also need to keep in mind our mentality and our features and system of features of our public administration systems. after all, it happened historically. no one is to blame for this, that today and no matter how we talk about the fact that we are engaged in decentralization, that we have adopted a law decree e in logic. e of a person, including an official everyone looks at whom the head of state and it will take time for this to change. this is not done at the click of a finger, and therefore it should be here after the significance that we had a program where we talked about public associations. i'll practically quote you. you said that white russia
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, in principle, was a socio-political organization. and now you are trying to rearrange these two concepts of political public and political. well, somehow, again, for me it means ideologically savvy. with what ideology will russia go to the polls electoral twenty-fourth year for this in this company and yet, well, what can we expect, but from public organizations you are often asked a question. will belaya rus party? if we talk about its main theaters, these are ideologies, then they are, firstly, it is support for the political course of the head of state. this is the realization of the principle of justice in all spheres of public life. it's, uh, supporting a foreign policy strategy. e of our country, which consists in the fact that we are creating powerful integration formations in the post-soviet space of the union state and the russian economic space. and belarus, uh, if we talk about its ideology, this is healthy
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conservatism, which is expressed in the protection of the values of life. i'm talking about the values of the family homeland of vera that is, this is all that lgbt people say so quite right. and so in the development of those ideas that igor spoke about, i would like to note the following here. i would argue, uh, ideologies can't be the same everywhere. well, that is, in the basic common sense, common sense is more the same here, but the mentality of the society is different, and therefore our ideology should be the ideology of the belarusian society, growing out of its history and those formidable challenges that are thrown to our country today. and this is the unity of the answer to the problems of our time. this is the mobilization of one's mentality of one's historical memory. it will give a very special ideology. but i will also note the following, that this ideology should be and can be, not only the ideology of our country. it can become the ideology of the healthy forces of the world and here, belarus may well be the leader of this a chance to get ideological symbolic
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leadership. why yes, because the whole world today, the normal world is suffering. from what, from the decay of humanity from the fact that they destroy the family and the homeland, work, everything that makes a person a person is possible? we, i will interrupt you oleg alexandrovich, look. excuse me, alena, i just want to put this thought together for myself. sorry ah. the arrival of dugin is very many, so we just started talking about what we thought about. yes, this is not only the ideology of belarus - it is the ideology of common sense, exactly the one in which we we understand him even when yezdugin and his ideas turn to the east. it's still traditionalism. this is anti-liberalism. this did n't happen by accident. i think that this is quite natural, because mr. dugin expresses these ideas, but our public association, like other public associations of the republic of belarus, has the same meanings. well, maybe not as outrageous as alexander gelievich does? well, in uh, and not so philosophical can be sophisticated, but the meaning
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, uh, is exactly that. i think that these are the meanings that you have just spoken, they are quite maybe the ideology of both belarus and belarus alexandrovich, i’ll nevertheless voice the thesis with my teacher, she always spoke under so, before threatening to teach, uh, the whole world and offer her ideology to you. let's deal with ours and yet, here we are, returning to what we started. hey, i have yuri. uh, probably a question for you, you went through all these stages from the twentieth year. yes, a lot has been done for the democratization of the belarusian society. in general, we have come to the fact that, and completely soon we will have a single day of voting. we are waiting for the first in a new format. yes, after the adoption of the updated constitution vns. we are fully. here the belarusian society is fully aware of the burden of responsibility that will fall on those who, but it seems, are part of these 1200 people or the same.
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well, you know, we will look around all the time in the same way, mmm, and think about who will tell us the right decision. who will decide some basic questions for us? you know you are very correct. or a question and really a measure of responsibility to it people, including delegates, should be ready, but how is it happening here. that's right, sergei mikhailovich kozly igor means, uh, that we have as soon as some kind of crisis situation, first up to one scene, and before a crisis situation. give us authority. yes. uh, why do you close everything to minsk to the central authorities of management for one person, as soon as there is a crisis situation, where is the president? why didn’t he solve the issue, that is, we have, uh, uh, the nature of power, yes, it corresponds to the mentality, and therefore this can only be changed
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evolutionary, if again the delegates let's say all the belarusian people's assembly, which will be e elected according to a certain procedure. uh, if they don't ask. some new trend is new, then it is a new discussion, then again , in the event of a crisis, we will look through the eyes of the president, who will sort everything out well, that he will always be with us. and if he is not with us, and this is the vulnerability of the political system. we are already here, because, uh, we are all well accustomed to the phrase, and support for the course of the head of state, ah, but the fact is that now is the time when the head of state. let's be honest, busy with other issues more strategic, but in domestic politics and in external confrontation, and let's say 2 3 5 years ago. with this price increase. let's face it. lukashenko's meeting would have taken place earlier than it did this year. still, prices
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did not rise in a day or a week, but alexander grigoryevich was objectively busy with other issues, therefore, the sooner. we will rebuild from uh, do not prepare some kind of decision for lukashenka to sign because he will double-check everything, he will ask questions, the independent decision was made correctly, that he drew attention to the decision, the decision will not require adjustments on the part of the president. just say well done uh -huh, we all have to grow up ourselves and not be afraid not to be afraid to make mistakes, because those who do nothing make mistakes. and let's say sergey mikhailovich is burning like deputies. uh, so they monitored prices, i personally doubt it, let's say. now there are a lot of e, that means such specific examples of painful ones, for example, which affect all business now on the state, such as tenant landlords. you remember that for some time they were obliged to transfer rent from foreign currency to
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belarusian rubles. and what they did through various tricks. uh, some formulas turns out that rent has become even larger than it was when the currency was pegged. here is papa please specific. to which you can please excuse your attention, here the deputies were addressed. yes, you must answer. i understand. every president has said this many times, everyone in our country should do business, if such happened, we have enough special bodies that should sort it out. it is clear that we can today, our main task is to help people in the first place. this is the first our second task is to write laws. if i start digging now, it means i'm not an expert in rental pricing issues. uh, what then will i write the law i will create, how will people be tomorrow? what laws rules the new life to live, and he must mind his own business. i think you have a task. we have quite extensive powers
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to involve in the decision of this or that the issue of the problem of specialists is what we, in principle, are doing, and today the right decision was made by the bare state again , yes, uh, when the relevant commission assembled developed instructions. today, anyone can see and understand. yes, we are monitoring the center, where there was a corresponding ministry, which is a specialist, where the decision of those who, as you say, should each in their own place deal with this is a completely different issue. sorry, i have a sequel. well, you know there saying folk seminyah, a child without an eye. yes, in the morning the daughter looks like. yes, therefore, you know, everyone was engaged, the deputies were engaged. uh, the union was involved, but the most important thing is who should be involved. we have the department of commerce antitrust regulation. these are people with a fairly large staff, including in the regions, who must monitor and
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take drastic measures in order not to reach the level of a real president who gives instructions on how to regulate the way you think, maybe we rushed with in order to give, uh, well, the opportunity for people to participate in the political life of the country and make decisions with the fts, they may have overestimated their strength. decided with the mnf because the vns - this idea did not come from above. this idea came from people. i know from my city that among the 23 proposals that we included in the constitution there was, among other things, the transfer of the constitutional status to the vns, so it came from people people. this is well understood. this is more. well, we are now talking about democracy. so do we need to teach someone or not? we don't have to teach anyone. let us learn and you know working in the constitutional commission. uh, i studied the constitution. well, all our closest neighbors have the best constitution now . in my opinion, we have enough democracy,
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listen to people's suggestions. the constitution was discussed discussed the constitution by the people of the whole referendum was elected. now we are saturating the constitution, we will discuss the law at the entire belarusian people's assembly. new electoral code to be discussed what more democracy is needed? we are talking about a state for the people, so now it is just a state for the people. we do everything for how it is will work it will work. but it very much depends on what worries people now about who will come, and it is clear that part of the delegations of delegates will be representatives of the executive legislative judiciary and part of the delegates. there will be deputies. yes , they will be of different levels, but they do not have a mandate from the people, but people are concerned about a third part of civil society. who will be the civil society, who will represent the people? it is very much now here and in the team of those who meet. see. we are talking about what the people are coming. yes, in history it was clear such a kind of slavic thing. yes, from which
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the people were going. here, as far as i know history, people just gathered in the square and voted. but this was initially said to the people a little, whatever. here we choose people. ah, but on the other hand, how competent all these people will be to resolve these issues. but how much, but in fact, because many, for example, are delegates to the entire belarusian national assembly of the last convocation, but they do not always resolve these issues. that's on the ground like okay we here in minsk may be people are preoccupied, doomed to high positions, but on the ground , as the police say. yes, people know the problems a little more. people are more aware of the problems and their problems. they will, uh, pass them on to those people who will represent them all in the belarusian assembly, and you don’t have to think that the entire belarusian people’s assembly is a kind of body that will be radical. yes, he will decide to submit proposals, but the people are saying that we have a presidential republic, we should
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have a head of state for me, people at the last meeting said. and what is it if the president that will not decide anything. no, the president will decide everything. this is assistance to both the president and the parliament. this is insurance for the nations. so there is no need to say that anyone who has a comparison with the chinese congress, it is similar. i don’t think we have a different scale, and i’m not talking about scale, but simply about understanding colleagues. here, if possible, an example about similar. yes, to be clear. well, if you don't mind, then, uh, we already had a cpsu congress in history; it did not replace the nice cpsu nor the ministry of government soviet union and other public organizations. we gathered all different segments of the population and ordinary people of the party, who are scientists, cultured guys. they determined the country's development strategy for the five-year period, essentially the same thing. no, here, let's navigate. china - this is a different tradition, a different civilization. there are other approaches. we have. i tell them in history. it seems that this was already the congress of the cpsu. no, rather, all the main
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deputies are more. well, there are people's deputies finished badly. i still just wanted to eat it means that the cpsu must say that, after all, it seems to me that this form is more suitable. come on, it's clear, we in no way copy and said about e, the unity of mentality ideology, after all, we are going to this mentality. hello e equals history history and in history we already had it, when the congress was going to repeat once again, when the course and people determined. there were completely different professions. and milkmaids and professors, they sat, uh, determined the course of the country, and all the other authorities already, let's say, this course was carried out, therefore, uh, answering your questions are not necessarily there, so that thin, narrow specialists, lawyers, will gather there and ask questions. there must be representatives of the people, why do we consider the people's form of government to be a representative of civil society at the moment without, uh, legal regions. here at the moment, are you ready, as a representative of civil society, to get in, i believe that wars
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should not be represented by single people, in this regard. that's when sergey was, voiced the thesis that everyone is guided by the vector president i have a question the state apparatus is possible to a greater extent, but when you said about the locksmith the milkmaid of others, these are people who are not price-setters, they are mainly consumers, but we have almost half of the economy, not a public private one, which is just the same pricing in many respects for these same consumers. they have this vector with the president, one single question, because there is no commercial business. why yes, they have money, and they probably thought about it two or three years ago. today. they are they are thinking about how they can calmly and peacefully go home and no rocket has landed anywhere, and therefore today, when we communicate with our citizens, by the way, with the business community, by the way, now the dialogue platform has become more active, including in first of all, business with societies of fellows. there is a question there. support. tell me, help us, how can we make sure
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that another course is put forward for the president. here is the question. here is your answer. this is a good platform to stimulate this very political activism, which at the very beginning alyona because if you don't have a tool for realizing some potential, you can at least register with these same public associations and surround yourself. call yourself whatever you want. if you can not apply anywhere in any way to participate. this is mindless activism. it is useless movement for the sake of movement. well, that's why the military, yes, and an ordinary citizen. so, if you add it up, this is just such a step, that is, in fact, a social lift, yes, that is, if you have, here, if i want to be a delegate to inness, i did not stand you can enter belaya rus in belarus in the same way as you, you can also be hammered into parliament or into joint councils of deputies and other structures that will complete the delegates. the loading of the people's assembly is for everyone, but here i think it will simply be as follows, that the responsibility already falls on the
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structure of civil society, whom they will delegate to the entire belarusian people's assembly, and this is already our concern. our responsibility is to make sure that it is realized, and that requirement that we now they said professionalism , motivation, concern for the general magic, you will decide who will be, well, you are the leader of other public associations who will be admitted to pbs, i will decide. not i will decide in uh the highest authorities. uh, the organization, namely the congress, the congress will direct, but uh, yes, this is the structure of civil society associations, they will be given such a right by law, and therefore, this is our work and our responsibility. well , even if you look, you are right, uh, about hmm, our main public organizations pillars of our civil society. this is actually a society of 4 million. trade unions, which means that there are 300,000 white russia out of this 200,000. there are 380.000. uh, the belarusian republican trade unions in the belarusian union of journalists in
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white russia are increasing. i understand simply that i do statistics by hand, i do statistics everywhere and i’m just talking about this statistics, but colleagues, let's proceed from what we are talking about civil society society is all people and relationships, and civil society is the most enterprising active people who want to move their country forward. if you are very active in white russia, of course, you will be noticed. if you are active in the union, women, of course, will notice you on their own. is there. and what does it mean by yourself you are with yourself or because of the country. he says that you cannot give in to the vns alone. he is against it, yes, leave it, then you will be yourself; she is a citizen in belarus. why, from the moment at least nt will present? well, that is, but i can't. you can. the fact is that from the moment of the election of the first delegates. and in the entire belarusian people's assembly, let's say new rules and again the role, the process
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of forming the role of vns. he won't finish. i will say one such thought, which seems to me so clear that it may just be rarely spoken out loud while alexander grigoryevich lukashenko is the president in belarus and i will say more deeply. and even if he holds some other position, he will be present in the political field of the country. all reality will be thank god for alexander birovich, lukashenka, and for the time that power will continue with him. he will help the country to form a real worker, and the body of the entire belarusian people's assembly of the future we will call it that, because otherwise the functionality of the vns will not work differently, it will work, or if we are talking about some kind of danger. god forbid that it does not work only after someone else becomes president in belarus . well, in fact, the president talked about this about the fact that i am not eternal. god bless him , but really. the point
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is that this structure is really the future, but just the same igor, why did i start talking, because we are laying some kind of step into the future. on the other hand, this step may not be worth doing now, because, well, no matter how democracy is needed now. well, let's say so, it's the one, in my mind, in my mind. this is the step that, well, today , i’ll say, mildly, is not of the greatest importance, because this is a strategic decision for later, eh, but you need to get to it to mature and see how the vns will work. well, because everything they have for a month or a year. this is understandable in a democratic society. eh, then who will represent. in general, this is what parliament is for. yes, that is, if we also create vns, then they are being created. yes, there is the federal tax service, there is the head of the presidium of the air force, there is a parliament with two chambers, that is, it is clear that a thousand people have talked about this at dialogue platforms. but, perhaps, we still need to talk about this. aleksandrovich, perhaps the people
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should go and talk again, because now that the electoral campaign has already entered into its essentially real power, we are not talking about e theoretical. basis of the constitution we speak about the real, maybe talk to the people again. this is absolutely right. and this work has already begun. eh, literally. e from friday. uh, a network of dialogue platforms is unfolding across the country. when it will be as large-scale as it was before the referendum on the constitution, and here are all the difficult questions that you formulate, that people will formulate. they will be discussed at these dialogue platforms and laws. he changed the electoral legislation of political parties. they will be the most detailed way worked out and society will not be left with any questions. at least the one who wants to ask a question, he will receive an answer to it. the deputies are counting on these bills. well , as i understand it, changes are already changing. it 's coming, though later on march 15th. but there is something else i would like to point out. it is in this context business site, who today saw e
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sites in germany in france maybe in america someone is discussing some laws with the people. this is also our political tradition. a participant in dialogue platforms know that there are different dialogues playground, there are playgrounds when people come to ask sharp questions. sometimes unpleasant to me as a speaker. i have to answer uncomfortable questions. and sometimes i perfectly understand what the dialogue platform is like. uh, there are 30-40 people plus or minus employees of the executive committee, which prompted, what questions should be asked? i always ask sometimes come for this good dialogue sites. we didn't do it. just what 100% satisfy some laws all part of society. no. our task is as much as possible for us the number work out or offer or, uh, reach everyone, as they say, we came to you, we offered, and then the person has the moral right to ask later if the decision is made. he didn’t - he was a witness , he could participate, but he didn’t participate, he disappears and already here his conscience plays when he calls to go out into the street or to perform some other actions, therefore your
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task. you said that we need to talk to the people, and we have experience of talking to the people. see. what are the results of the referendum. received after the twentieth year earned, just the same opportunities for public discussion of the draft law, including the avns. we are talking about the ideology of the electoral company with you aleksey evgenievich gedukevich sergeevich we just talked about the fact that a certain ideology should still be the same for everyone, but look , the electoral company will consist of communists, the white russia of the ldpr is just fine. ok. so. here. tell me why the ideology will vary. and how to stand out so the first will never be a country with the same point of view. this is a terrible country. here even in one class. i studied at school or at the
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institute, there is no such group where everyone has the same opinion. this is a fairy tale, a lie, the second, but at the same time, these opinions should, uh, go in no direction, and within the framework of something, this framework should define the people and it is impossible to go beyond this framework. now i will explain in detail, simple and understandable for people. here we adopted the constitution, the majority of the people accepted this rule of the game for everyone. and for the whole country further we will have the entire belarusian people's assembly, which is now meets every year, well, according to the law that we will first adopt. they also receive this light. all the people further. and now we have parties and politicians , and for a second we present our constitution written in two state languages . and this is the guarantee that our country will never be divided on the national religious question is written the second question. free health care, free
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education, it was the people and the flag that determined, for example, we determined the state emblem. here it hangs developing on the country, and then a politician appears who says there will be no language in two states. hence, the education of the free will not flag. not ours. that's what i'm talking about, yes, we shouldn't have such politicians. and the fact that we will continue to argue with klishevich about the economy and politics is absolutely normal , moreover, even now, when someone says that there are no discussions in parliament. this is the biggest spoonful that can be, there is no bill on which there is no discussion when the commission is in session. not so easy emotions are emotional, and with the facts, the deputies have a completely different opinion on some issues. but these basic things should not change. why destroy the country, and another point. let's go back to the beginning,
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why we adopt the constitution, why one of the moments that no one has ever hidden is that we think that in 10-15 years. who would not be elected president. whoever is elected to parliament, he has no right to destroy everything that we have achieved. otherwise we are ad infinitum. let's start building the country. first, the communists took over, only the communists in parliament won the parliamentary elections. i exaggerate or took a democrat or one in general belarus or voskresensk took, people went crazy and everyone voted for sunday in fact the assembly. whatever the program of the parties, it has no right to destroy everything that has been achieved over the years. here's what else we do. and when someone says that there will be no alternative point of view. this is a lie, it will only be comrades of politics, this is world practice. show me in europe or in america where there are actually two parties in general
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. yes, they are different, but which of them can destroy the state system trump became president, what did he change? listen, alexei, what the finnish president changed. in england, there is no constitution at all, just no great britain will begin, i will tell jokes , kachinsky finishes the jokes. there is an anecdote about kaczynski still know something inserted. doo, yes, here comes duda to kachinsky dog akashinsky took and signed why because uh system uh, before duda what, says pigtails makes we have more and more democracies than in poland, and by the adoption, uh, of the constitution and the law on the entire belarusian assembly, there will be even more. ilya but the opinion is still not expert, not political. i still think, it’s right how democratic we are to everyone in that we are now introducing the concept of vns, and again i will give the example of great britain china, you know , we are so democratic that even in the lower strip of parliament we have almost 80% of deputies,
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no party self-nominated. listen so we have a democracy resistant two party members two parties oleg sergeevich in my opinion, you are the only one from the ltp in the lower lane. yes, we say we have, uh, a small party representation in parliament is a hoax. why do we have elections not according to party lists, if in russia elections were not held according to party lists in one constituency, believe me, except for united russia and one person from the liberal democratic party and two communists, there was no one there, moreover, we have a good representation of the party, but if we now here is our party defending the party lists, here. always stood for so that the elections are proportional to the majoritarian system half and half. so why can't it be done now. it will be artificially the party is underdeveloped . we will not make elections for one ldp and the communists. this is wrong, belarus is not a party. the rest of the heroine, according to
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the list, of course, are not professionals, the people supported. we are currently changing the electoral legislation, but we are not switching to proportional force, but we are doing more. today we are adopting a new law on political parties. what will be the law want a secret. how do you know? this is exclusive information. let me not be offended. but it's true we're all for it. and i won't tell you all the details. there will also be a discussion in parliament. there will be some more suggestions. we will look at this, but we already understand the meaning of the law, it will be aimed at ensuring that parties become a real political force, for this we will tighten the legislation, introduce re-registration and set a serious bar. well , the sport is now either 5,000 or 10. this party should have structures, you know. for what, so that people know if the party has passed the restructuring, this is not one person with a seal and a piece of paper, but a real political force behind which people of structure and ideology stand, and so there should be the current 15 and in your
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opinion. how many left two means, uh, 2-3 maximum, so i don’t see, i don’t want to offend anyone anymore. uh, this is the third party, in my opinion, that exists more. how can he create it after all, parliament, judging by your words. let the law be registered register. go to the polls. in any case, all the changes are aimed at ensuring that key decisions about the fate of our country are not made by a judge, visible, not by random people, people who, well, somehow more than fate, i don’t know, ended up at the right time in the right place and fulfill their obligations. there is no such thing in any country of the world that you woke up and wanted to become the president of this activity. i absolutely agree that it is normal to protect yourself from such random people by electoral laws and filters. we are creating them now. so here we are
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now. uh, do it yourself, the belarusian assembly, which if someone goes crazy or starts suggesting idiocy, they will remove it, it’s all spelled out in the law. the second lukashenka spoke about this many times, why because there is a risk that a populist will come to power, i’ll tie a simple example, a presidential candidate comes out and says, i will continue the course that was previously elected. and if we do not make filters, after six months he betrays and does everything, on the contrary, what will we do. now you know it means then it is necessary to make the electoral legislation to filter them to the parliament. we do it too. here, for example, now. uh, what are we talking about, what will we never do, like in moldova where? excuse me people who live in romania for 20 years vote and never in the interest. moldova will not vote. we are now talking about including those who are 20,000 or more people more. well, second point.
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take germany's electoral law. we will now elect there to make a guess and speak to you. there you are you won't become a deputy of the buddha until you pass, the local lanta so it's a normal filter. and in our country, for the twentieth year, some fool wakes up and says, that's how babariki i remember bathing in the river. i want to become president, because it’s generally normal, or something, where in which country of the world, that is, there is a name of a deputy. become a minister. walk the path and get together in parliament, and then, go somewhere profile, if possible, i will add two words god wait, if the program of the sensation is already yuri, look. yes you are right now imagine, and there is almost everything around, but at the moment this status is enough. or you have a run, like any politician entering the vns entry into parliament. well, of course, we are on this road , uh, and uh, so you are planning, and it is very important that we are acquiring these rules with procedures, including taking the best from
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european practice. yes, that is, we are creating our own political constructor. it will help us strategically. well, yes, not for one year, not even for a decade. that's why this the way one has to go is another matter, which is really another matter. uh, uh, the nearest time after the adoption of these bills will have to pass. uh, the election campaign is just around the corner. and here i personally have, for example, a big question. taking into account that geopolitical situation, taking into account that geopolitical situation. she won't get worse. we we see that before the discharge. it's still far away, which means that even if we focus on some shortcomings, so that external e, players do not take advantage of this emphasis, it turns out that we all of this we all must it turns out to praise the authorities. or as if to
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exclude an external factor. i told her on the point never again we will listen to opinions. there in poland, how they relate to our elections, and those countries that imposed sanctions, they have nothing to do here, in general in our elections, in general, the way they order. this is once and for all . we must forget the second point. we are now cleaning polling stations abroad. it does absolutely right. why won't they let us hold fair elections there ? they won't let it. let that normal work and all and all vote plus they will. so everything is sulphated there. i'm sure they will intervene and interfere with the choice. there, honest ones will sell it, they won’t let them hold the third moment, we will never be allowed to vote again. political forces, let's tell the truth, we allowed them in the fifteenth year and in the sixteenth and in the twentieth funding from the outside and in the tenth. moreover, who is financed from the outside in politics, the path is closed and the fourth fact, and what have we done? we are an information space. now we defend
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much better than before. remember how we held elections in the twentieth year and in sixteenth year. we practically could not control the information space. we were under pressure from all sides. now we have done a huge amount of work in this direction for 2 years. and now i do not want to praise anyone. uh, i'll use the words of my father, who was in politics for 30 years. he says, i am very pleased to turn on the tv. why because i see how many patriotic journalists there are. and most importantly, they are no longer afraid to talk about politics. they talk, honestly openly, about both sharp issues and angles. this, to be honest, the belarusian society was opened. in my opinion, while the parties are not ready at all. when will they ask? what kind of parties are there, and what kind of ldpb will it be for people the party of gaidukevich, the communists will be the party of klishevich, and the round table of the democratic forces will be the party of voskresensky and people will associate the image of the leader of the
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individual, and so it turns out, belarus is a party. lukashenka yes. uh, the vector is necessary, but again, it will take some time, maybe before people have the perception that the party is not only its leader until this. in my opinion, it is possible to criticize and it is necessary, and they are criticized all over the world, but world politics has not come up with an alternative than a park for political activities. we must clearly understand the street or legal political activity. so now we are creating the conditions by adopting the laws of our partners and for development. well , the communists, soon the holiday struggle was not only between the parties for power and within the party from this party movement our belarusian know-ha is nowhere. we have a political system. so we're all about
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parties. yes, i agree that our party is still weak. although i also represent the communist party. i consider this the most powerful party in belarus, but well, almost i am the most powerful, but more evenly we have the role of political parties, no matter how much we want to play our main public associations. they participate in elections, they show their position on social and political issues, in fact, in our political system. this is our belarusian know-how. they play the role of political forces. and there, uh. yes, it is also clear leaders, perhaps they are associated, but they permeate our entire society, as we have already said, public organizations are associated with one leader, but one question is correct here, but one question means the only difference. they don't fight for power. well, how does a party differ from a public association in all other matters. this is practically a public organization at the legislative level, we, uh, sort of put, yes, accents red flags. we have drawn conclusions from the twentieth year. we hope it's unique. those mistakes
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they somehow insured themselves, but here is what oleg sergeevich mentioned and praised the information field. i get the impression. well, probably from the fact that you shouldn’t fluff your tail so much and relax and say that we are direct, but we succeeded and we are ready to understand that well, there, too, of course, there are people who follow our every body movement . and for every action we take, they have five countermeasures. maybe even more powerful ones, it’s sometimes worth recognizing, too. igor what do you think, for the time that we are left with electoral campaigns, what should be done? the information field and whether some bans and restrictions on attempts to control and the ability to control will solve this issue, i will say very simply on one simple example, and many journalists are central. the media, including for several
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months, have seen that prices are rising, as well, but talking about it and criticizing it is not yet very accepted up to the moment. until criticism comes from the head of state. there are various reasons for this. the issue is not criticism. for the sake of criticism, go out to scold everyone, but debate to ask why? what ways to highlight the problem somewhere, to highlight possible solutions so far on such sensitive topics, but in the information field of reaction. no, that's not accepted. why do i have thoughts on this. and i somehow already publicly said this in one of my programs. i think that we still have an excessive touchiness of the heads of departments. ministries and departments to any criticism from tv people, if we criticize, then we do not conditionally attack the ministry of antimonopoly regulation of trade, but we see that our people, but have a problematic issue that concerns them. they want an answer. they want to understand
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that something in this issue is somehow solved, and they need to respond to this, and not pretend that the problem does not exist. we are still playing some kind of political game, when if you criticize the pro-government, do you know that you are immediately bad? no, i absolutely believe that parties are needed for this, so that people know where to turn and stamps at the level of parliament at the level of local council somewhere with deputies not constructively shouting raises this issue, and i agree. we don't have to be afraid to criticize. here we are, by the way, when we talk about the entire belarusian assembly. i am deeply convinced that when we form, here again is a new convocation. there will be different points of view, moreover, and that we do not know the history of our russian meetings for ourselves. i'll tell you that people got there. you are in yourself a russian collection of completely different layers of completely different professions. and that one also discussed inside and the president laid down various proposals regarding certain decisions. it’s also really a different question, that we don’t let radicals in there, and we won’t let them in now, why are they needed there? what do you have to
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say? i'm talking about this buffer, and so that random people do not get into politics, well, the highest echelons of power. this is understandable. it’s the constitution that clearly outlined everything, thought through a lot of discussions, they will help, but in the regions it is necessary that there is a very good electoral code, which it is now working on, and that this sieve can be used there so that really random people do not pass. well if we say that we are doing everything for the future that is possible, the first iud will not fulfill its function entirely. yes , as we would like, maybe, but anyway, the road has always been mastered, the one who starts to walk it. and, probably, the president’s words ignited me when at the last meeting. he told us before we started working on the constitution, he said, when you work. do you remember that according to this constitution in the future to live in your children and grandchildren here, proceeding from this. i think we're on the right course, it's obvious that, uh
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what i was talking about, yes, delegates, anc, are elected for 5 years, and during these 5 years , anything can happen and with any kind of crisis situations. we may collide , then it turns out that we must approach the elections of deputies at all levels as responsibly and prepared as possible, since. they will also be delegates to the vnc, and to those whom we will call civil society, because what right will these people be given within 5 years. well, to decide the fate of all nine million belarusians there. i would know what i combined your proposal, your approach , with the question that you asked igor about information policy. that is, it is possible to make a filter in this approach, but it is right to completely fail the information policy, for example, and here the foundation of the foundations should be, however, transparency , openness, calm discussion. uh, because
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you remember in soviet times. it seems that there were filters and 26 million members of the cpsu and, as for the million, uh, law enforcement officers and special services and none of them came out, because that's why journalists now also have a special role, a special responsibility, and you need to use it , remember, as the president said, you can't use fakes under any circumstances. this may be effective, but short-term openness is our weapon and look. uh, now on these fugitives. yes, they have nothing to offer politically. they are now starting to beat looking only in the economy for friends, that we are developing politically, given the better transits of european even states absolutely alyona said correctly, so our opponents are preparing. no one will let us spend 24-25 years in peace. you don't think i dislike the most. and now, somewhere in the region, the hat begins to be thrown. everything
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is fine. all is well by the twenty-fourth of the twenty-fifth year they will try. the country is not just shaken, but destroyed. this must be understood, therefore the filters, about which you are now talking, are extremely important. but it is even more important to completely exclude, i repeat, the external factor once and for all. we owe everything that we are now we will do it, and this is the merit of our constitution. we talked about it in this studio. we wrote the constitution for ourselves did not look. we don’t need to go to europe, there’s nothing to take from there, the same thing now, electoral guess and elections for ourselves. i remember the meeting with the president, when he speaks with natalia ivana kachanova, when they discussed it, he says, i am very sorry that we did not agree there that the presidents were elected to the nss, yeah. he even knows that he had that we still sometimes, when we write legislation, look back. everything look back anyway. and how is it in the west, and how is it going on with them, and how is it, and how can we forget about it now, do everything for ourselves, no one cares about us, except ourselves, so
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we must write legislation. now you are right, selective in the region. so that the filters are for themselves and their country. what will they say? excuse me in the osce, what will they say in some international organizations. they are no good anyway sergeevich. i still probably understand what my gennadievich was talking about here, u, about the electoral legislation at the local level. you see, all over again, the deputies of the local soviets, then this, well, let's start the first step, as it were. yes, let's start moving up this political ladder. and if a person conditionally became a deputy of the local council , he served his cadence. just sitting, uh, exactly at your workplace at your desk. then further where he moved, then what result will we have, er, have the output. it is important that people are interested here. as you say, once alena ’s party would be useful to us for yourself, why don’t you need to take experience in general, but in russia a faction, a party faction in the state duma, elected a betrayed deputy, a faction
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gathered, threw him out of the faction and forgot. because this is also a filter and a leader, the parties that you speak of are oriented, people are responsible for each of their deputations. the example of poland is the eightieth year. e attempt to take solidarity is bad. the phrase sounds like there is no example of poland, the prime minister is negative, how can it be, how can you lose a country. there, too, they wanted to immediately take the strength to take the color revolution, it didn’t work out, and what solidarity decided, it penetrated the komsomol into party bodies in trade unions and after 10 years. poland became anti-soviet and, in fact, a coup d'état in this country was inspired. therefore, we, too, cannot have such dialogues until the twentieth year. needed. but because we used to sit behind
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lukashenka's back and knew that when the situation was a little bit. it will go further, and now we are doing about what is next in 20-30 years, who will hit the table. and if a fool comes, some. excuse me, anything can deceive. that's what we're thinking about right now, filters to the belarusian assembly, in addition to democracy , this filtering thing should be done. and this is a very important law, so now we have submitted it to the entire public discussion, because every belarusian should now treat it like the constitution, so when we went to discuss the constitution, we saw the interest of people, and now someone is talking. ai adopted the constitution. let the deputies themselves write the law down psycho. lord turn on. discuss, suggest and this indeed, there will be a nationwide document . journalists should also get involved, journalists, social activists. after all, a lot of things also depend on us, because, well, in the twenty-fourth year, journalists should come no less motivated than deputies and party deputies, journalists, in some
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way even underestimated by future politicians and political scientists. because it is a journalist who is a person who can pull out interesting ideas for someone, but at the same time he takes social responsibility upon himself, that if i bring someone into the media field, then will remember who wrote on it and interrogated it, therefore, in this case, to me, in principle, the idea of these filters in itself is what i hear it is interesting, but the question arises, which we issue now during the entire transfer of ideology, like this one the filter will be adjusted, maybe simpler, something we don't need, for example maybe parties in which 75% of the founder did not go through, uh, to be a delegate. vns, maybe, and if this is decided by a limited number of organizations, then the question immediately arises of this very transparency. and where did the criteria for these very filters come from? that's all the law, we must prescribe in the laws not in one, but in several, that is, starting from the entire belarusian people's assembly. our next stages are the electoral legislation, the law on political parties, the law on civil society, these laws. they will be these
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physicists, it will take this day, here is the adoption, how much we need to do everything in time for the election campaign and we will have time, that is, now for you to understand the parliament, according to the new constitution, it works all year round. we do not have sessions autumn autumn. we 're working all the time, so now, uh, we'll be accelerating already. that is, we must by summer by summer, and accept the main package of e-documents , and i will already accept 100% of this. which task i will briefly add. unfortunately, everything in the laws is not practical. ah. i am personally concerned about a fairly basic issue throughout the belarusian people's assembly. and i understand that, for example, different people can become delegates. i don't mean anything, i don't mind , but i would prefer that professionals decide, and the list on the vns, elected also people of such professions, and there, as an ordinary engineer, an ordinary locksmith, and so on, and it looks very poppy and populist, but in fact, as for me, it’s wrong and this is the sky, i would not like to remember. uh, just the
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phrase said by the head of state on friday during a conversation with journalists that we must do everything for ourselves and make only those decisions that we need, and if you do not feel the strength in yourself, that you can pull responsibility for some decision of your own, then just don’t take it and don’t even start. well, i will probably formulate the current dialogue for me, which consists of three words justice president's union.
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