you are of today's program, and not all of us have now reached, therefore, in the process of conversation, we still have to join one of the respected interlocutors, but we will not waste time, because there is a lot of topic. let's go in order, and from the past tau-dkb, which is now still in the information flow, i remember. this phrase will be set on fire along the entire perimeter of russia; here we see belarus in the twentieth year in central asia, the south caucasus, of course, all this is our attention. now chained to trying. for now, i will formulate this way to attempts to resolve the conflict between armenia and azerbaijan is a long history. uh, the price is already a thousand lives. we have seen that at the recent ldkbe summit an agreement was reached that in the near future there will be a meeting of the leaders of armenia and azerbaijan, mediated by the president of the russian federation, this meeting took place in sochi on monday. right there, and vladimir putin declared the following peace. there is no agreement between yerevan and baku

yet, but there are prerequisites that indicate that the path to a settlement between baku and yerevan has been found. here is vadim in your opinion. here it all looks like aside close to reconciliation. but how stable is it? and that in this case, the factors stabilizing and the factors de- staging what is happening between armenia and azerbaijan, if we talk about armenia and azerbaijan, we understand that as a result of the fact that russia has significantly concentrated its efforts today. on an official military operation, her position in the csto. they became less strong. this is an objective fact less strong turkey has strengthened its influence in the region is significant. on all issues of the middle east, turkey has slightly different views on the issues of the north caucasus. moreover , we see that this meeting took place. that the parties have almost come to some kind of

compromise solution, but you need to understand what is the most important nuance. eh, what will ours be for? how do we say push? uh, opponents, after all, what ’s wrong but you have to understand the fundamental problem, where does the problem come from, uh, because a dkb was formed after the collapse of the union and the countries came e in qualifying about dkb with different after all hmm problems with different views on development on the one hand. we had a common market. general defense policy. it fled us from the other side, each other country looked at a different development option. what do you think, looking at how pashinyan and aliyev behave even at this meeting in sochi, and the parties are determined to resolve this conflict at the negotiating table, or each of them holds some cards under sleep relatively speaking, yes. in order to play them at the right time profitable to slip. you understand one thing. you

know there is a nuance. here's another one that you see , the union has collapsed, but uh, the union has collapsed, but the sides are all sides of the csto. they came. uh, russia, unfortunately, has not managed to become, in absolute terms , a centripetal force that unites the csto in many respects in many respects its role, there, defining and decisive. this is the most powerful state of the csto. for example specific. let's remember the meeting of the president with the secretary general of the tkb stanislav zayets, where the topic is definitely the armenia of azerbaijan was central please ended the war clear. what ended up decided on the sides that they need the latter is the norm of the classic. eh, naturally. it was russia that turned to russia. russia landed hundreds of people there. we remember how russian border guards flew planes, as putin said, it is located on all sections of the borders with turkey and iran there. and between armenia and azerbaijan and so

on. well, what else do you need? e, let them work in this direction. it was not in vain that i said that it was going on, a certain game. i understand what game. why there dragged into the european union, why drag the osce there? well, why? well, it’s understandable, why would they do anything there, if there is already, uh, a mediator and another csto there, as if there is nothing else to do. and why is the west so full of intermediaries, do they really need to close this project called anti-russia, or are there any other goals in this regard? the west is not only now, uh, trying. here, learning to participate in this regulation and what we see today and this is a continuation of these programs that were, uh, previously announced, but today we are paying closer attention to their initiatives, because we are asking a quite logical

question. what did they come with? do they really want to resolve this conflict? or do they have some additional, but additional motivation, and unfortunately, we have a negative answer to this question, because we see more additional hidden motivation. and what about the a anti russian project, which they want to close? yes, they talk about it a lot, but i don't i agree with uh, here you go. uh, in particular, in the fact that russia has weakened its position without russia , and the situation in the region would not have been resolved. that's what we are talking about weakening, what criteria we are guided by. this is a very, very difficult question. but will it be possible to close it, and if at all such plans for an anti-russian project? i think that for sure they are in theory, but implementing them in practice at any

stage, especially today, it is very, very difficult, if you are getting stronger in the region, the player is the most powerful economy and military grouping, turkey is natural. you are getting weaker, but i say again, we do not mean that russia's role is decisive in the settlement of this conflict, it remains, and most importantly, it is a peacekeeping force in this region, for which it can be able to try on these e, the republic is the russian federation we pay tribute to russia but here, unfortunately. there is a fact that today certain positions of russia and forces are diverted. this is a fact and we will be dried up toss. means, appropriate how do you say the nuances in order to foment this conflict, naturally, we must allow torture - and they will not be peacekeepers. they will stir up this conflict not to talk about infatuation, if you look at the historical point of view, again this is a traditional policy. when they aspire to the west, these are the possible peace agreements that are unprofitable for them to prevent the conclusion and

incite this, uh, a wave of conflicts along the perimeter of the russian federation from my point of view vision. this is quite obvious for this. and it is necessary to involve the european union and others there, which means european structures that will never work to pay off this azerbaijani conflict, because it is a priori beneficial to them, unlike the russian federation and, from my point of view, the russian federation in once again demonstrated its strong position, the negotiations in sochi yielded certain results, and i think that neither the peoples of azerbaijan nor the peoples of armenia are interested. in continuation of this conflict. we must look for a normal, peaceful way of regulation, let's analyze, well, firstly, i would like to indicate to the audience that a hygen has joined us. here is one franchise. we are just an intermediary now. we are speaking in the country of the west, which we are now trying to impose , and i am putting in quotation marks a specific example of my friendship. i will cite as early as october 6 in prague, in fact, the eu leaders agreed on the deployment, but they agreed on the deployment of an observation mission in armenia. one of the authors of this project is macron, and a week later he openly stated that

azerbaijan initiated the karabakh war and allegedly. russia helped him in this in order to weaken armenia , so they have a very clear position on what is happening between armenia and azerbaijan, he said that it is just as clear, because, therefore, the macron’s statement was clearly about the armenian a lot. uh, judgments and experts. why was it needed? well, some people think that historical france will support armenia. i think that this is not a matter of historical ones. eh moments. it's uh, here are the experts. we talked an attempt on the one hand to annoy russia, he is a macron in the same statement very sharply appreciated the negative, as he said, the role of the russian federation, therefore, regulation, as well. on the other hand, macron, uh, is frantically trying to take the place of the main european politician. here he climbs into various situations. this is not only karabakh. here, there is, like he has statements to the balkans and his position on ukraine, he is trying to become such a locomotive for the main european politicians. this is his priority task. we are quite, apparently

when the question arises. is it possible for countries like france to guarantee the observance of peace. here you need to look at what president alexander lukashenko said, indeed in the post-soviet space there is only one scheme for resolving any conflicts of disputes and discussions when the two sides agree. even despite stereotypes of prejudice. some of them exist. all of them are members of the commonwealth of independent states, at least and only the russian federation has the strength, tools, knowledge and, most importantly, interest provide peace of mind there. because the security in the south caucasus in central asia is the security of the national security of the russian federation for france and the united states, these territories. they are manipulative, they use them as a struggle for their influence in the world. here is the difference. and by the way, for some positions, despite the fact that they are

competitors, but in this part, russian interests even intersect with turkish ones. here, look in response to macron's remark, the elevator, right away declared a general reaction. baku was extremely sharp. he said that france crossed out the whole history of relations with azerbaijan, how do you see it? i think that's what it's about, er, to a greater extent. he was emotional statements eh and heads of state. this is also the practice of a crisis situation, since, as a rule, it does not seem that, unlike the macron, aliyev will very quickly give up his words. naturally, the problem is that there is no word of the solution we can make, uh, any statement, but there is no simple solution on today, but also the question of the peace treaty, and which has been sounding somehow the last for weeks and months. e, he is impossible in fact, therefore , they remain in the bottom line. only uh, loud statements. eh, there is. uh, the desire to find some kind of

consensus to come to some point, stabilizing and the belarusian position. it is precisely this that is not a peace treaty that must be signed. this is impossible today, but in that the parties come to, uh, to some kind of consensus, so that they, uh, settle now they have stabilized their interests, and we see the external position on september 18, when pelosi came to a. and she came to yerevan, first of all, on the wave of the fact that a number of politicians in armenia made a statement that the accident could not cope, that this was not a shooting gun. and so, arriving there, the pilot and what did we say we are here to say in the us will support democracy in armenia in difficult times. we stand next to armenia when the struggle between democracy and autocracy is waged armenia is the place where we can clearly see these contradictions, in general, when the americans say this, it sounds like a threat, because we are all already at peace. we are used to the fact that if someone from washington or london shouts that we are going to defend democracy,

expect a war in this region, the armenians understand this, because if the armenians are not ready to resolve this conflict peacefully, then not the csto. neither russia nor belarus will be able to influence the fact that there is finally about the dkb in yerevan. i remember when , uh, there were still here, when yerevan was preparing there, eurasian economic union, and then they said that here is the dkb. doesn't protect us as it should. well, you know, this is the ultimate male conversation, which was at five on friday at these dkbs themselves. what did he say guys. he let's see how the position of russia and belarus differs from the position. we are not the west. that's such a fra. how did you drink? yes, we are ready to defend the president clearly said that you crawl there at all, well, in a little different words. but although he used to clobber us around the perimeter, that you are pretending to be something there. you same know each other lived in the same country sit down and talk. yes, there are difficulties.

why are you wild goats climbing these mountains, they don’t even go. what are you playing. why are you playing this? what does the arable land want to do, hide behind the csto, blame the dkb for what for the fact that from the eighteenth year he brought his country to a military defeat, because the situation is not that the dkb is not the way it should be protected, but the situation is, in what is the state of the armenian armed forces. and who led to this situation? a and. eh, there are many examples. uh, it means to indicate some were how they used the s-300 systems and many other things that happened during this war and the subsequent president opened up about this for the second time. i and armenia pashinyan declare. well, azerbaijan is not members of the dcb. so why are you behaving like this? well , azerbaijan on february 22, in my opinion, well, exactly on february 22 signed with russia that the declaration was actually de facto, defining the status of azerbaijan as a union state and the president of belarus-in. we have the same situation, he said,

listen, yes, the armenians are our allies. we wish you of good. we wish the territorial integrity of sovereignty, armenia so that you finally resolve your problems, but azerbaijan is also a state close to us. so we will fight with him for what? well, our task is peacekeeping. why alexander lukashenko is called the main peacemaker in the soviet space to achieve peace. and now, when such honest unpleasant words and unpleasant speaks, but these honest words are heard. this is a much more serious step towards peace. than some stupid macron declarations, or these windbags on earth are not pilotchie heat. let's go, remember. indeed, who, as he said in this, the president and then we will definitely continue, please, as a result of the republic. ka and i, as president t decisions of azerbaijan, armenia and russia, reach a consensus, i will support this consensus without looking.

excuse me if, maybe i don't see it that way many miles from this theater of operations. but this is my impression of what is developing there on these borders. i already said so in comradely language, what are you guys fighting for? what are you fighting for in these mountains at 2,000 km high killed three hundred people three hundred people died, where people do not live, where even these goats do not walk. why are you fighting, sit down, you two and agree. and let russia sanctify this treaty. well, you don't want some sort of game going on here. this game can not exist, because the question of war and peace is being decided by the collective west. first of all, the anglo-saxons possess filigree art. divide and conquer. listen. that's what i started, and the dkb was

formed from one. uh formed our space on the principles that unite us, but there were a lot of contradictions. first, there was a union state. the soviet union borders were not normally established, you understand, between all the practical republics of central asia there are questions on the establishment of borders. ah. caucasus armenia azerbaijan we are familiar with the americans, there is a president talking about what we need to prevent in the first place. uh, the aggravation of the situation along the entire perimeter of the russian federation along the entire perimeter. and today such there is a threat and today they will use all means in order to set fire to a few. uh, the hot spots around the perimeter of the russian federation are tasked with stretching russia's forces and destabilizing the internal political situation in the country, and as soon as they destabilize the situation in russia, uh, all cis countries will fall. and the most important thing. i want to

say this because it's important. it concerns us. what worries me most now, i want to say in response to, let's say, hotheads, and now on russian television. me they invited there are channels where the topic is discussed, whether it is worth belarus to take a direct part in the military special military operation, that is, to send a contingent there, that is, they are already discussing. look, there are three categories of people who can advocate for this. the first is people. ah, he began to suck, mentally retarded, but we don’t touch them at all with a fool there’s nothing to talk about, the second thing is that these people are smart , educated, our people are patriots, but they are a little fanatic - they have such fanaticism fanaticism, it always makes it difficult to think, you see, that is, they are ready to throw everything into the furnace of war. war is not only strength and firepower. this is first of all, the ability to think the ability to think and the economy and the third. these are agents of influence, agents of deep penetration who

are undermining the situation in russia from the inside . i want to do it again. for russia, first of all , the main interest of these 208,000 m² is to preserve the zones of political economic stability. this is the most important thing and the first step towards the collapse of russia is the armed conflicts of the government all night make it very difficult to ensure stability on the perimeter. after all, more than once they talked about tajikistan, kyrgyzstan, except for armenia, azerbaijan , and pay attention to the moment. he, of course, was ironic when the president asked stanislav israel if you stayed too long in moscow, and then he indicated that, in fact, 3 years is not enough for the general secretary of the dkb. and now we understand why. because in each of these areas there is a very serious situation in order to delve into it and specifically effectively hmm this issue needs both time and complex. quite right. here's another front. let's discuss it. look, as soon as we see calls in the west to go save

democracy. here they are waking up. well, cells, whatever. they can be called here fedin declared the creation of an anti-war committee under the wing of khodorkovsky , for example, in russia it is not an absolutely new idea, but nevertheless, it is being raised again now these anti-war committees of khodorkovsky freedom forums in russia kasparov and ours or already wrong, say our fugitives there it is most likely pro-polish. there, about the western tikhonovskoye with their offices before this guido venezuela, this front, yes, or the front line. here is vyacheslav. what should be kept in mind here. here, what kind of game is being played here, so that we don’t oversleep it either, but absolutely. clear. what a game, when there are conflicts on the outer perimeter , forces about western should be involved, yes, focused on supporting these western forces that are located inside the country. this is a very dangerous thing. here is the fifth sixth column, some say and their existence must be borne in mind that such things will happen while this tough confrontation between west and east is being waged. yes, therefore, it is necessary to pay attention to them, but

on the other hand, it is necessary to open and well, what does it lead to that they hide behind these beautiful words, and there is democracy in the world and so on, but what is peace and democracy today is something when they give obama a prize there for the war in iraq , it means the nobel prize for peace. for peace, this is a peacemaker. yes, who completely ruined the country destroyed it up into chaos, uh, and still ca n't figure it out. these are the double standards. it is necessary to clearly and clearly show our society so that people can see what is behind these beautiful words, but this is information stuffing in order to remind oneself, or really. here 's something to look forward to from these guys. uh, something that you can and another you know what it is. what do you want to understand. this is such an attempt to create some kind of quasi- pseudo-legitimate government in exile, so that when the mess starts, you can give legitimacy to outside intrusion. here, you know, there was such an organization, the jamborine was called the jamboree. this is how the americans specifically created the cia

when it was the cold war. uh-huh, the union of uh anti-soviet rebel groups in nicaragu angola, there uh latin america, that is, it's the same thing, they are trying. that's how the methods that were in the cold war are the methods that are now being created from pro-western politicians. yes, yes, your groups of influence, because and what are we going to hide that we don’t have people of the russian the federation is not left with people who are guided by, well, in russia, the same khodorkovsky, the same kasparov, yes, such people are in the minority, but they exist , they become radicalized, they become embittered. and, of course, the americans will try to stake on this , uh, create centers of such influence abroad. i think these are just the first steps, and the next moment for these people, of course, is an attempt to remind ourselves, we see, what a fight is going on. here, between our fugitives in the camp, they were hardly stuffed into

august in this one bag, uh, office, tikhanovskaya, right? you know, here they have an office, probably they closed the door, and they still pushed the lettuce in there with their feet, he resisted the door, they locked it , putting this bald -headed dryer. so guard there with shooting. by the way, interesting, but recently i listened to this extremist. he learned the belarusian language from him, did not know it, but he speaks belarusian with a polish accent. here walking was there. yes, lieutenant colonel, says yushman, polish words slip through all the time. here's how they would be unharmed. that's what they are some belarusian politicians. with them, this polish accent will always strike exactly the same way as these feigins and kaspar khodorkovsky, no matter how they declare, what they think about the future of the russian people is their main topic, how to divide russia how to make russia weaken in the future and people do it see, that is, people see our people. here we are talking, what is it now, when we meet in the republic. hey, when are we going to explain? they see that

evil comes from these people. here they declared the world they began to form military formations in and ukraine under their own type of command, then their command is not recognized. that is, they make peace with each other there, the same khodorkovskys cannot do everything else. well, who will trust them when people understand and hear they openly talk about how to draw borders inside russia in the future. how to make people quarrel among themselves? and read their reports at these foreign conferences where the main topic is. how to identify the most anti-russian parts of the country, how to find parts make a bet, what money to pump into it? how to find a leader there, people see it. they feel it, but the danger of these groups in the full sense of the collaborationist groups cannot be underestimated. and, of course, our special services are also using them for our russian related work. how much more we disagreed, i, uh, saw more subtle settings, it seems to me, but the anti-russian rhetoric. it developed at the

first stage in a very narrow direction against the leadership of the russian federation and in particular vladimir putin, and the waves that accompanied it in parallel were waves against the russians in general and today. this is the narrow line against the government. for the leadership of russia, it has already exhausted itself and it is necessary to look for new mechanisms for information work with the population. after all, even in our countries, the neighbors declared a long time ago that the russians should make a revolution at home, not sit here with us, but make a revolution at home and involve russians in this topic. e creations here are such already quite uh, clearly defined structures. it just indicates that the information that needs to be conveyed at this stage should be voiced by russians, that is, the code that they should send should be a russian code . not western, because western ones no longer work absolutely agree. with vadim

frantsevich, it means not paying attention to it. you can't because it's not clear. at what stage it can go into another phase , it is impossible to probe it, but western diplomats came to our kurapaty. yes, it didn’t become like it all, yes, when we say kurapaty, i would generally suggest that this word should be abandoned. this word was coined, the tract where the mass graves are, you know, and we continue this myth created there in the late eighties and the poznyak did it on purpose, but don't care. he wanted those people who were shot and the nef would not give a damn. e. they constantly exaggerate these figures and why they emphasize this word kurapaty, because they strive. uh, make this part of your biography. as part of its political history for them, kurapaty, like the chernobyl way, this is not a memory of executioners and this is not a memory of the catastrophe at a nuclear power plant, this is a memory of everything for the birth of the fighting memory of

their political youth, which could lead them to not that we constantly repeat this word. we're working pouring water on their mill. no, no partridges. this invented name is excellent. i am very glad that you made this remark absolutely, and it is all the more complemented by absurdity and indignation on our part. that's what western diplomats came to me at this tract the oppositionists, who used to go there, western diplomats came, the question arises. here we are constantly talking about what is going on, if not openly, then a hybrid war imposed on us by the west and western diplomats come to this tract why at this time in order to send us some kind of message. what is it, you might think? why, at the same moment, when, for example, the fascist march is taking place in italy, mussolini recalls, no one comes to the italian embassy and talks about the trail and victims that reach for the name of mussolini. here, how to relate to the fact that western diplomats and

ours may have some kind of tolerance of incomprehensible humanity, when we look at it this way, well, with an understanding of it, or how we look at holy fools . that is why we allow us to be dealt with like this when they try to demonstrate something to our population and us on our territory or to send some kind of message here, the message that they lay in these visits and so on. places like this. this is again pedaling that the soviet union is negative is a totalitarian society, because it absolutely does not correspond from a scientific point of view absolutely. eh, so these things they play on the political situation that is unfolding in the world, it is necessary to open this underwater one. they came there, not to commemorate the people who died, but to make a policy on the spot once again to show their accents. here the west says that the ussr soviet society is bad. why are you focusing on him , focusing on us. look how good we are, how we keep your memory of this tragedy. although they wanted to spit, as it was here it has already been said the rest, the first thing to do is to

ignore them, they do not exist. there we are inflating this topic. some handful of some diplomats came. they go everywhere, that they walk through the forest, they all went to the forest, and you and i are creating an informational occasion. who knows about this in belarus , today we are discussing a pot on national television, which means that the diploma is lowered , uh, the victory monument and it reaches the knees. so merkel thumped on her knees, buchenwald, let them thump on their knees, for every folded belarusian child. they reached through the forest. there is logic here, on the one hand, that it is not necessary to attach such importance to this. on the other hand, these are representatives of official representatives of foreign states, and they declare the position of their sovereigns on our territory . we can't help but react to what civil society is reacting to. look, you see, not the state, until they saw it, maybe if they issued a statement there, mida yes, it probably will be. uh, let's hope as well, but civil society reacts. after all, those who

came there to protest against this parish. these are not just journalists, they are the leader of public opinion. and our patriots, our people demand from these diplomats to stop such walking, that is, the people themselves demand. because if this goes unpunished, they will perceive it as a challenge to our national identity, our national memory, so of course we cannot allow this. but what else pleases me is this reaction of diplomats - this is the reaction of some neighboring states. and such a hysterical answer on our historical policy with you. here are examples that the belarusian state. i assure you. here, i look, even for the younger generation. i don't want to overestimate the tree. there's no knocking here, right? yes, but it is bearing fruit that we are changing the school course in history, that we taught chickens from the history of belarusian statehood. we have upgraded and are still looking. how is the teaching of social science block universities. yes, uh year of historical memory

, what we are doing in addition to implementing ours is that we are dealing with negative moments and collaborators and the regional army and everything that was here it causes just terrible rejection, because we are hitting. eh, that's the worst. here in this rat, uh, rat essence of this pseudo-nationalism, implicated in some kind of pro-polish intentions. we are hitting such people there, we are destroying the basis of the ideology that lay, er, in the attempted coup d'état of the twentieth year. and naturally. we will e we will speak the truth and stalinist repressions. we will speak the truth, but those who create here will not need the truth. these myths. ah, there are any pseudo-kurapatahs for us, that is, we grieve for any victims that were made , especially since the state admitted that the victims were innocent, but the state did it, and people are trying to pervert this memory using their political

interests, only with the truth to be careful. here in the nineties they forced us to tell the truth, and in our country every chekist was a criminal , you know or not, and many policemen, so to speak, were shown individual great documents. and we continue our program moving on more in detail, let's talk about poland, which has already become such a permanent threat. and it no longer hides. uh, the hospital of light safety of belarus on volfovich in an interview with osb belarus today said so, the political course. warsaw clearly indicates preparations for war. well, i would like to draw attention to the curious material that was published by the belgian portal modern diplomacy of modern diplomacy and we read their plans for polish politicians quite specific , quoting the right-wing justice party plan to revive the republic of poland within the boundaries of historical lands. it seems that operations on the territory of the former

ussr took shape long before the russian war, writes this portal, the authors of this article believe that in the event of the seizure of the territory. warsaw will try to hold a referendum on joining poland by marrying, that the polish authorities will already be defeated by that time, i pay attention to writing about it. belgian edition, and how realistic is this scenario olga i would pay attention first of all to the fact that this is more degree opinion poles and not a portal. just reprinted this article. yes, yes, uh, and uh, this is just a scenario of which there is one and scenarios for the development of the situation, as of which there are many today, it is possible to see it as realistic. i think two tracks should be watched here. these are the possibilities of the political track and the military track, if we are talking about the military track for poland in particular, then everything e, secretary of state e of belarus in alfovich and the security council and the figures that were

translated. they are completely in line with the situation. this is true, but you need to look at what is on the other side, but on the other side. after all, more, being a member of nato and, by her own assertion, an exemplary member of nato, therefore, in any case, she will coordinate all her actions with her allies for her. this is extremely important, and this is a military track, as far as the political poland is a member of the european union and the legitimacy of its actions, obtaining some kind of permits is also extremely important for poland. but the position of poland is tough and irreconcilable unambiguous. it is very difficult to perceive in the european union, and for the colonization of poland, which warns a separate european policy, it is. and that's what i printed. uh, belgian portal. we can consider, of course, from the point of view that this is how it could be in the direction of poland. well, maybe this is a warning for europe

, uh, what plans are hatched by individual countries of this moment. you understand, in order to talk about the fact that the mass of these complex factors, today it greatly restrains slowly moving speed. yes. i would like to point out what point, yes, we can talk about reality. realistically, well, look, after all , in fact, poland has already taken a step towards the creation of another commonwealth. they also received special rights for their citizens on the territory of ukraine, which is like not a recreation, which means that this polish commonwealth had this first step, they perceive it so polish actually already. yes , at first, as they created in 1569. they were focused on this by the polish elites to impose this colonization of these lands, which became part of the commonwealth and further systematically. methodically, from century to century, these things have been implemented and now on a new round in the twentieth year. they declared openly that they needed the same whole of belarus , not only on the western eastern crosses. yes , they claim their own, but for our entire territory, and in ukraine they have an opportunity. they have already won

themselves special rights and can enter into state bodies. and this is good ground for, at the right time, as they say, to come out of the shadows and to make these lands part of the polish state of a colleague at first, this is what is happening, all this has long been described. predicted and it was all planned. listen in order to motivate the country to take certain actions. think about the country suffered huge losses in the great patriotic war. for them, it was world war ii. they had a historical memory, but it was necessary to formulate such concepts in society that would allow them to perceive militarization normally. second, and form enemy image. on the one hand, set it up against the russian federation, on the other hand, it’s like the occupiers, on the other hand, against germany and reparations to germany, for this, the americans very competently threw the idea of ​​​​great poland from the sea, to the sea and exploited this idea and still exploit it in order to motivate poland

to this aggressive militaristic position. it was not just that an ideal structure for the transfer of troops was built there. it was not just that money was pumped in there, and today poland is no longer understands one that i will arrange these plans for greater poland. they are an instrument and the first striking force that the old world wants to direct, does not want to fight. here, poland. this is the next force behind ukraine, which will fight in the baltic states . not enough resources were driven in. they create conditions for the placement of ebosnat on their territory. and here is poland from the point of view of the population of the depths of the territory of readiness for some kind of concept to carry out military operations. she 's practically today. well, and an independent international entity, which can, without the participation nato to wage war. if you look at the troops that are being concentrated in poland and at the technical support of these troops, then poland today can independently conduct an operation in regional conflicts, poland from my point of view. again, this is a prime example of this

here politics, share the power of anglo- saxon politics, which is carried out because the united states of great britain is not interested. everything in the strong european union, on the one hand, and on the other hand, the eternal enemy for the west - this is russia, those who are with it in union, and poland is just an ideal tool that allows you to keep both one and the other in good shape. and under the threat of some of these actions, they really won’t, but the fact remains that poland is the conductor of this anglo-saxon policy on the territory of continental europe, they came after all the importance of the polish politicians themselves and did not belittle their subjectivity. we see that eastern european politicians, whether it's orban, whether it's e, means poles independence, no matter what they stake on they are pursuing a policy. quite independently , and, of course, the americans did not throw in the idea of ​​greater poland; they exploited it permanently in france. well, let's say it straight out regardless. this was before the us became a great power. this idea is present in the polish establishment permanently, and moreover, no one

formulates it like greater poland, it has the name of the fourth speech of the commonwealth, it revolves around it. this plan is from my point of view. he is not realistic. uh, why do we need to think of some for polyakov what they want to do, perhaps he is somewhere there in some kind, so i don’t know the polish drawers, there is the general staff or some kind of party headquarters. they are open about what they want to do. that is, they have a plan, if you have a plan mr. fix fix, he says there is a plan, they have a plan, the fourth speech uh, germany and france are european forces for this, so we think that the americans are using poles a. warsaw think that i do not use the poles and these americans. yes, they use it to their advantage, that is, poland should become equal of berlin and with paris the next moment is the creation of a chain of states dependent on poland from the baltic to the

black sea. and they take here the caucasus, for example, georgia, too, for this they do not need to include territories. why? so i do not believe that they can hold such a referendum, it's the belgians. and by the way, speaking westerners do not fully understand our mentality. they think that russia spent poland will also have a referendum, but in donetsk whoever was in the donbass understands that there are most people there who sympathize with russia, who do not support it, but a significant part sympathizes with what do you think in lviv, so the residents will go and vote for more. and even if they hold this referendum, it is a terrible dream for them to include the poles in their state, there are 10 million ukrainians, and several million more refugees already live with them. millions of ukrainians, they directly declare. this will be the banderization of poland are afraid of it. but the creation of a network of protectorates all these dependent puppet states. these are their goals, what vyacheslav viktorovich spoke about. this is an agreement. this is actually an agreement on a protectorate, not much time remains, but we

involuntarily come to this topic. and the theme of global confrontation. at a recent e-valdai, for example, putin said that we had come not to a systemic crisis, but to a doctrinal one. what does it mean, in principle, if we say in general terms that we all already understood that the system international relations has broken down, but in order to build some new world order, it is necessary that everyone answer the main question. under what conditions will we build it? well, this is, if in general, to formulate a general one, yes, credality, it is also about values ​​and about meaning. in this case, it illustrates well who is such a spiritual enemy, not only modern russia, he outlined this circle much wider and we are there. that we are entering and so the other day, us congressman jamie raschen made an extreme russophobic statement think that he also believes that he is belarusian-phobic, that russia should be completely destroyed, and at any cost. this is how he calls his motives and i quote russia an orthodox country professing

traditional values, moscow is the world center of anti-feminist anti-gay anti-transgender hatred and at the same time, almost on the same days in texas right on the street, satanists staged a ritual renunciation of baptism, which came on the forehead painted an inverted cross and then baptized peregyn to satan. well, absolutely it is obvious that the congressmen are spreading this action does not cause rejection. here comes the question. so what is this global battle for, which, if we split it up, looks like armenia azerbaijan is in crisis ukraine has little serbia and other other issues, but globally this is how this confrontation looks like. here's how you like it for yourself. here you need to understand that e is a collective west, but first of all, the annasaxons want to maintain global dominance. why not fight to maintain the ability to control the world to divide and rule. in this case, at the end there is a group of countries, but it's all in russia, china,

india, a number of other states. well, belarus , respectively, as an ally of russia, it is natural that they want to build a more harmonious system of state relations. let's just figure it out. this is clear. where are the concepts, again. they are formulated. there is the concept of global dominance and the concept of a global sheet. no one is against having leaders , you know, and also the same multipolar world, but the leader sees next to him strong independent subjects capable of expressing their position, on which will be influenced by the stronger, but express their position of the country that offers the concept of global dominance. they see next to them only the satellites of the metropolia and satel look specifically. it is necessary to remove the orthodox country, which prevents gays from spending early. that is, look, here you just took something about what. we are now saying this is one of the pillars. these are spiritual approaches, so to speak, traditional values, this is one of the aspects. but this is a much more complex

system. that is, traditional values ​​are fighting, the right relationship to religion is more, let's say, a healthy relationship to oneself. and this is very narrow. this is one of the aspects. this is great. yes, it attracts, but still struggling is the fair distribution of international finance, the formation of new reserve currencies, the correct attitude towards the use of force in the world, which today is not organized. today, the united states can keep aleksandrovich with impunity, so he is absolutely right that we, well , first of all, you need to understand the enemy. yes, and this track, well, you know, these are satanists, because they have moronic holidays this halloween. they are promoting halloween. yes, this reflects what they have, for example, candies were scattered from the hummers. we can cling to it endlessly. and they are all these pseudo- value ideology, as one rightly said , to throw it away in order to cover up their true goals. today they have the same values. they may tomorrow themselves traditionalists and places, but there is a struggle in america, the same tucker carlson he smashed this raskin for these statements, and in america there is

people who criticize such approaches and there are quite a few of them, but this does not make them less imperialists. they are from this, we know sometimes carlson's tackers well, this is a well-known commentator who has already been assassinated in 80. he will leave such a more conservative america, uh, work, where's the focus? yes, in my opinion, it works, yes, that means, uh, and so he declares, but the question is these people, they become less american chauvinists from this. no, because they have a consensus on provision. how are you by this said global domination all over the world today they use one ideology, tomorrow they will use another. and behind this are the interests of transnational corporations. here we are somehow embarrassed by this word on the eve of november 7, but we have already forgotten the word imperialism, we are dealing with global american imperialism. that's good. i'll reformulate then look, let's go to

a much higher level. well, in valdai , putin said that there is a system of trinity trips before this at the twentieth congress eaten pin said very clearly that the task of the second century is to build this socialist global new reformatted state, taking into account the importance and role of china in the modern world. we understand that we are talking about a much larger system, at least in the asian region. well, it was not by chance that alexander lukashenko, zadugin, spoke about a just state, then we get the anglo-saxon world and some form of a new just state. in this case, how it goes, for example, like ours. hey, this is the process. to build the entire belarusian people's assembly. i'm invested as a factor with uh, a fair state. that's how you do it? you see this global confrontation. i can say unequivocally that certainly the world order that existed until recently . now we are seeing its collapse, it is actually based on the unfair domination of one

actual country, or there are transnational corporations that control this country, but in fact it remains. so they forced everything the rest of the world has its own way of development is another matter. now we are talking about the fact that there should be a lot of polarities, it is necessary to take into account the various interests that exist in the world. and this world should be more justly arranged. and this is the message of justice. i think it is key, it is key for our history, if we are talking about the belarusian people for the slavic peoples. yes, in principle, for any normal people in the world who do not want degeneration. unfortunately, the fact remains that prevailing back in the west to today day. these are the diggerative values ​​that lead to the degeneration of this western society. maybe something will change. maybe it is so, but in fact this message is present and lies at the foundation of these western values. if we are talking specifically about belarus, i, i have repeatedly repeated now, i can say that, in fact, if we look at belarus, this is the last sovereign state in europe that pursues its sovereign policy

to defend its right to decide for ourselves. how can we live on this earth, with whom to be in union? how through development and the fact that we have the entire belarusian national assembly will be formed. yes , the word means now there is a discussion of the law. this is a very important element of the preservation of justice in our society, a fulcrum that allows us to withstand this stormy geopolitical storm that is happening now, because the supreme people's council is a higher representative body that will unite both representatives of the judicial legislative executive and civil society. yes , that means these 1200 delegates. they will represent in fact the weight of the means of our society. and these are the functional decisions that are laid down in the russian people's assembly, he once again emphasized that they are very important elements for the modern functioning of our belarusian state. preservation of our state for the people is this slogan. we have been for a long time and this is not just a slogan. it is actually implemented. yes, of course, someone does not like some things, it

is impossible for everyone to be satisfied, but what we have today. well the majority of the people. i am sure, especially after the twentieth year, i realized that we have what we can lose and understand how it should be preserved , and just the same, the entire belarusian people's assembly is an important element of this preservation of justice. there are two aspects here. this is, on the one hand. subjectivity, justice, since everyone perceives it in their own way, for this it is precisely the mechanisms that are formed, yes, the mechanisms that allow us to bring to a common denominator. that's the problem in the world, countries want justice, and there are no mechanisms to ensure fairness , so one country interprets, that is, interests. one side interprets justice. here we need new international mechanisms that will ensure a fair distribution of resources, financial flows and others, and secondly, many do not understand justice as some kind of spiritual concept. uh, the spiritual has no moral, justice. this is safety. so, many people do not understand this and should understand if

there is an imbalance in society today. here is one group profiting. uh, let's say so rudely we use such a word exploiting another group, sooner or later happens. eh, the socio-political breakdown and the system itself are collapsing, but everyone is in the same boat and the boat is sinking, therefore, when lukashenka is worried that prices have gone up too sharply out of touch with reality. you see, a lot of people think. oh, he ran into a business, there is no question that he is worried about this business, too, because today you will destroy the consumer with these goals. tomorrow you consumers are not here. this quite another revolution. this is a revolution, whose holy bourgeois were dragged from the outside in intelligence. coups and revolutions are the most dangerous, and here this principle of justice preserves the balance in the country. yes, she spoke about the discussion of doctrinal changes in two circles. it's wide and narrow. here, in a wide circle, what

we are seeing now is that the masks are being torn off, we are talking about the fact that there are no rules, everything is broken, everyone reveals some kind of secret desires, dirty deeds. yes, we revealed the cards of everyone laid out on the table. what about us in a narrow circle it was very noticeable in the speeches at volodarsky circle a in a narrow circle we are tired of international law, which vladimir putin spoke about, which we are talking about, including the conclusion that we can draw. this is not a new world. we cannot create it today, because the new world. you asked the right question the core, what will be the core of this new world, and to create the core today under these conditions. it's just unrealistic that we can't. institute of tonic work that was done after the worst conflict of the 20th century of the second world war in order to launch some new mechanisms. we have to use what is good, what is right and what is right. justice, i disagree with you

, justice is insecurity. this is an opportunity for development. we must move forward, and security. we can each provide for ourselves in our own cocoon, we cannot provide for ourselves in one cocoon. and secondly, all international mechanisms developed after the second world war are under the control of the united states and the international finance system. and he understands these mechanisms. it is true justice to transfer the philosophical to the real philosophy, you understand, it has and practically changes pleases, how is the discussion of the law of the entire belarusian people's assembly. first, people perceive the idea. there are practically no critical remarks, this body is not needed. yes, it's easy to explain, but specific remarks are coming, but about that, uh, ours. people want the role of labor collectives to increase. they are more broadly than the authors of the law understand, civil society is our patriotic civil society that has been formed since the twentieth year. they ask questions. and this destroys the myth created by enemy propaganda, and

for some kind of dictatorship, that democratic processes and the discussion of the adoption of the constitution now, the discussion of the law of the ovns is very important and important now that the state power hears the people, these are the comments that are being made. and i am sure that it will be so, which is introduced during the discussion of the law on the entire belarusian people's assembly. and we see how in the course of this discussing even those comments that are made by the entire belarusian people's assembly. it gains legitimacy. the most important thing is the trust of the people. we saw this already in february 21, when it actually ended this difficult period and opened the page for a gradual political one. information from belarus but now this discussion once again emphasizes how mature our society is, it is taking steps towards the authorities and the authorities are taking steps towards the citizens. well, thank you very much for participating in this conversation. it turned out with one on the other hand, one way or

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