a cargo of a friendly country will be delivered from china today tomorrow the embassy of belarus in beijing accepted 2 million to the airport of the chinese capital with the veracel vaccine against coronavirus infection manufactured by sinopharm corporation and 2 million disposable syringes , an agreement on the transfer of aid was reached during a meeting between president of belarus alexander lukashenko and chairman of the people's republic of china xi, jinping on september 15 this year in samarkand as part of a meeting of the council of heads of state. more new information my colleagues have 15 hours. i'm with you on i say goodbye to this good day and the same news.

essentially a weekly social and political talk show on the air today we have a festive air, but let's talk not so much about the holiday. how much about the earthly and familiar, but about traditions and new ones about how not to break firewood, but to chop them. and you can become a participant in our discussion. here is the qr code at the bottom of the screen. point your smartphone and join the chat your opinion or your questions. we will be able to ask the speaker of our studio. well, with you, as usual, kirill kazakov and alena serova hello well, we here with alena, before the start of the program, we argued a little creatively, after all, what can we talk about november yes, after all, on november 7 and all the people who are not indifferent to this holiday, i congratulate you on the centenary of the october revolution, after all, well, the reason is quite serious on the other

hand, today, as it were, a new tradition, which appeared thanks to our president. here we have the entourage block firewood and, in fact, this has become. yeah, she's such a little backstory. ah, just a month ago there was a state met journalists in khatyn. and that's when the idea was born to have a great and useful time. here is in support of the presidential flash mob, which he launched and demonstrated. in the splitting of firewood and the desire to be able, in which case, to lend a shoulder to our european colleagues, and today we held a championship among media representatives . as a matter of fact, i told the president that, probably, belarusians should be able to do this, be able to enjoy nature and be able to. strictly speaking, prepare firewood, but how the male. he probably did it right. yes, that's it, but the grass yes team minsk pravda team won first place ctb team won the sympathy call. while you talk, i will bring the team of our

tv channel received contemptuous sympathy, and did not leave empty-handed. now kirill vladimirovich will take our prize to the studio. this is greetings from the vitebsk region, it will take such a loaf, i will show everything, it is convenient for a start, then when will we finish, yes? yes, well, before yes bread then already and circuses and directly to our topic today's program. let's start our topic. well , we understand that it's great that wood and the woodworking industry are not firewood at all. although wood. this includes the economy and, probably, the global economy and the economy that we have been developing for more than a dozen years and we say that, in fact, our country is a forest. we are not only blue-eyed. we are also yes, the country of the forest. and here, as a matter of fact

, in order to reconcile our topic with you. yes, the editors prepared a video for us from polesye in sixties, and planted like this beautifully with birch trees. i don’t see it, probably, this is spruce and these spruce guitars with the word lenin uh-huh well, as a matter of fact, the seventh of november and the forest became friends. now we can say yes, well, and everything global begins, of course, with everyday life, and here we are lately. probably, for the last few years we have been hearing the story that we are proud of our hectares of forest, and ordinary belarusians have nothing to heat the house with. here, there is not enough firewood, and sergey ivanovich, probably, here is a question for you, your leader. how can you immediately address? where is the firewood? where the firewood your supervisor sent you. e to us today for execution, therefore, here is such a sharp question for you. in fact, the issue with firewood is being resolved today, as if all applications that come in are closed in a

short time, this procedure is streamlined a little. it used to be a man. he just calls on the phone, makes an appointment and thinks that firewood should be brought to me by now. actually today. uh, a person should apply to the forestry at the place of residence, where it is more convenient for him. there concludes the contract pays and after payment within 10 days firewood is delivered to him home. well, look at the forestry. again, i argue from the point of view of a city dweller, what forestry is for me. well , as i don’t have, for example, not a fireplace or a wood stove, for me it’s, well, exclusively from cartoons and news, nothing more. uh, the forest department that allows me there forbids going to the forest allows me to go to the forest. i can come there. i don’t know how to make a fire there. maybe when i want to build some kind of house. i will contact the forestry to buy myself, for example a board, although on the other hand. after all, this is already forestry. you must somehow

protect the forest to renew, and already the board is, as it were, yours, well, as it were, an economic function, but it is not the main one. well, yes, yes, yes. well, that is, here's how to understand what forestry is there? forestry is a structural subdivision of the leshoz that deals with as you say , protection or from the fund, the cultivation of future forests, harvesting is also taking place in the forestry, both commercial timber and wood burning a already lumber is directly engaged, or can be purchased at the woodworking workshop, which is also our separate structural unit. i know that you have two stores, two stores in minsk, probably not in vain opened. why minsk is alone. ok then. you say that there will be a second one, that is, you talked before the program, one was opened by derzhinsky and just recently opened in minsk at 52 logoisk trakt, where we also sell materials directly. uh,

planed products of this lining. block house. uh, the floor board is also made, a separate corner. uh products from our nursery ornamental plants, christmas trees, buy and at the same time. yes, he paints his prius in the garden. well, this is such a particularity andrey antonovich you are responsible for the sale of products to the global as a whole. and can m-m trend us to designate what is now more in demand. i mean, even abroad it is clear that we cannot, relatively speaking, export round timber. we know this. well, what types of products are the only ones that are sent to europe round timber, round timber. oh well, i'm somewhere now, if i can, i'll add it ivancha. yes, that is, about the store. yes , there is a task. not that such a polish forestry as a whole is an organization today. here after as an example, yes, uh, to set up work, just in cooperation with local authorities

, open just these trading platforms and every uh, any consumer can find products for himself, what can i say in any flower? yes , therefore, uh, the second point of the kopol forestry. also appears in minsk until the end. zhdanovichakh filed more it is planned to open two outlets at sharangovich and at mashinostroiteley, so i am convinced that the products are produced by the forestry enterprise. enough for everyone, but all forestries open these points of sale. that is, we have. strictly speaking, well, i understand, the collective farm. yes , he raises a certain kind of bird there, another parcel sells it yes. well, the leshoz, in principle, as it seemed to me, was a kind of centralized structure that should procure uh, firewood, and b boards that come in. like building somewhere else. well, that is, such a soviet system that does not reborn. here explain how it now works on the one hand correctly, everything has been identified as the main task. today or gatherings is to provide the domestic market. our partners in person.

the concern was a forest promotion, an enterprise, and wood raw materials, the second task that this population of the housing and communal services of the ministry of energy faces with wood fuel and the third task that we set today with the fact that dire processing production is concentrated in organizations in forestry enterprises, few people knew about us that we can here this production of primary sawing to produce. yes, somewhere in the field, they knew everything more clearly, but this niche. well not that occupied a private place is cheaper. if you saw boards , where you grow a forest. it is probably cheaper. quite right, of course, there will be logistics. e, somewhere on an additional level, we are talking about the fact that e wood yes gives birth, the demand for it is growing. and now, how we feel against this background, there is enough timber for everyone, if the question is about this in terms of consumption today, the stock of the republic of belarus is in physical terms. it's 1.8

billion cubic meters of wood, so timber. enough for everyone, both for the population and for our consumers, if we talk about the global level. yeah, and talk about the forestry. that is not the task today to export everything as much as possible. yes, that is why i said that the primary task is domestic consumption. no wonder once the head of state was ordered to stop the export of roofing. and today we see that this decision was verified and correct, and having modernized the enterprise of the bellisbprom concern everything that is harvested today by the forestry within the republic is processed by irina vasilievna we talked behind the scenes about what is coming out. uh, well, belarus is europeanizing, in a sense, in terms of relations with the forest. we talked about the fact that our western partners. e saved your resources until recently. well, now

the situation is forcing people. it’s just that for the time being they’re still taking care of everything, too, they all passed out, you know? the fact is that you asked if we have enough wood and many say, oh, they are cutting down and b there will be no forest in belarus, and so on. uh, i can assure you that just, uh, well, the experts will correct me. i'm not a forester by education at all. eh, they say that if you do not cut down in time what has grown, but they say a lot was planted, the post-war period. and just now the period has come when it is necessary to see, yes, that is, just to correct the pressure of what kind of holiday, in fact, in the forestry, these post-war plantings. uh, the age of the pipe. today is 80 years old, just today there is a peak at this here with the economic points of view. and we are a few hmm years ago e tens, probably even years ago. and we decided ten years ago to invest in modernization,

just the same, ours in this industry. and that is, we take agriculture there, this is one pillar of our forest resources - this is the other side. we could sell this wood, we could export it, yes, and we hmm in your opinion, in terms of. for an economist, the investments that the state made then, the investments now do not justify themselves everywhere, but they do. i mean, i think last year there was even line check. eh, i don't remember how at ease laziness, but even our university was attracted to e. and from my department, uh, financier, uh, went to study the financial situation. uh, after the upgrade. this is what the industry has done. everything is absolutely correct , it is one thing to really drive round timber, there is no added value and, accordingly. yes we can get. uh, as a result, that is, they sold and received, but uh, not such a large amount today to make it clear. now, if i'm

always with the russians when i say e, so i say ok? you have oil. yours is gold, and ours is gold, that we are once gold wood, we make five of everything. if we take all our exports five. percent is accounted for by woodworking and well. if we do. and by the way, i want to say that not everyone makes good furniture, of course, enterprises, but there are enterprises that, before all these events in europe, they generally said that it was very cheap. even at least, well, in ikea there was belarusian furniture, everyone knows this. well yes, a popular example is furniture that makes the whole minsk world. well, no, this is nonsense. namely, we didn’t know that she was belarusian, i apologize. well , yes, see, no, we supply them with good products and they love our products. do you know what's the problem? why a little furniture has gone in europe firstly, greater competition. you do not forget that the italians from the bow of the century. uh, we did what

we wanted, it’s understandable, it’s absolutely right, but here , uh, and here we are often told about this by foreigners of design here on the focus of this design, there is no good one, that is, we try and doing it doesn't mean we don't. here is the beauty. this is beauty furniture. it's in times. so let's say, the situation is somewhat peaceful now, different, and to remember the wood, here it is beautiful or it's just not, don't, it's beautiful or it just gives beauty practically, but still everyone wants to live in warmth , and therefore now, but actively remember tree, how about a source, like sabine here. i know that you are in some way connected with the work, so in this direction. and here again, and a few years ago, the president, in the name of the revolution, demanded

belarus to establish pellet production, in my opinion today. we have 28 such ticket factories, as far as you can tell. eh, hmm, this idea paid off. and do we need more? the idea certainly justified itself. however, lately one can, of course, say that i don’t want to call it problems, there are some challenges that, probably, simply create an additional incentive to work even harder , work even better, and there is a question. still, the need to reorient trade flows rehabilitate exports, and a ticket to other countries world european countries. yes, although the population has a desire here are political persons. yes, with you enterprises the population itself is the end consumer. i would like to purchase our products, but unfortunately, belarus is for belarusians. or is it not needed, but needed? and this year, as far as i know already, and sales to the domestic market are higher than previous

years, and this year, among other things, due to the fact that europe does not want to talk, refused everything however, if we are talking about people and companies, who does not have the opportunity to purchase our products, including. uh, our pellet mills just have to pay more attention to the domestic market. and i think that our domestic consumer can benefit from this, but they mainly buy uzbekistan. yes, she developed the idea modestly about her project. eh, what a thing. here in the past, last year we do not last year, but in the winter we did these projects. and so she, in particular, chose the project for the supply of pellets to uzbekistan, now in my current the fourth year is a girl. eh, uzbek, and she really says that they don't have wood, they say we can dig them for you. here we don’t have a lot of wood at all. i say, and how do you heat the gas in order to stretch it? yes, it will be cheaper, well, there is still no infrastructure. we

have infrastructure in belarus, and therefore we said here that tickets or gas are cheaper, of course, while gas is. and they always had gas, but they do n't have this infrastructure. yes build so they are interested in pellets and sabina correct chose the project. and so she was engaged, and how to deliver logistics to uzbekistan, but here problems arise, purely theoretically. she and i can now draw any kind of logistics in that direction, that is, in the direction of asia, when something is going on overloaded transport yes transport lines, and therefore an iraqi is now studying with us. we have a lot of foreigners studying here, and he says, i want to supply iraq with, well, certain products. i say somehow you will work out the logistics, and he says if the ports are good will be across the caspian every yes, yes. he says we go out and the cancer comes out to eat good. i say

there are good ports there. yes, we have good ones, in fact there are no borders between belarus and russia, so there is only the caspian sea to judge in this way. this is an inland sea, including our state. it's very good if we went to this logistics so that it would be possible to go along the caspian sea there. everything is so simple for me, theoretically, he and sabina can draw anything. and when you encounter it is impossible, well, to reorient our enterprises to, or maybe, take into account this type of fuel when building new enterprises, in your opinion, how promising. well i'm thinking about re- modernizing. er, maybe that would be a little more difficult. but it is precisely in the construction of new enterprises that immediately lays such an opportunity. i think it's quite possible and i think it might work. but, although we are talking about the fact that some is more expensive than e, gas, and hardly anyone will go for it. well, yes, we have the infrastructure, you know, if there are sites,

or a territory where it makes no sense to run a gas pipe too, and just if you calculate how much it costs to build there. so it can have. in terms of fuel a little different. yes seriously. tell me, please, here we are, and the wood in your outcome on paper was guessed. this is how the tree should go on paper, for example, here again i ask how the amateur is why it should differ from all the others that are being ordered, which, god, will turn into leaves in a piece of paper in a box. well, as a rule, we ship. this is a newspaper factory. papers are basically tank-sized pulpwood . and here's how it's here explain to me here's how i'll come and tell you. here is the tree on paper. this definitely won't fit. it's just for firewood. these are usually balance sheets. they are thin, with a diameter of about six dashes 13 cm. yes, yes, yes, yes. and so, basically, you can say this e low-grade , e, the wood is shipped for papermaking alexander nikolayevich and the cups you have are from what

strong from what width of wood? yes, you should see. hey, we've just mastered a new product. we not only entered the production of cardboard within the framework of the president's investment project in this saying that we must replace almost all imported high- value-added products. here we have mastered the production of cardboard. uh-huh from this cardboard produces paper cups and plates. well, uh, let it be known that in belarus this is imported, uh, somewhere around 10 million glasses on a package, for example, yes, this is, this is your package. i showed for a sample. why our coated cardboard is interesting, because look, you can produce, uh, high-quality multi-color sadness on our cardboard, in addition , you can varnish it with foil. this is very interesting, first of all, the buyer, what he likes with his eyes. well, look when it happened. this is another

outbreak of sanctions and have arisen. they really had problems with the packaging. until now, there are some signals that at some enterprises there, then milk is actually poured into some kind of tara. here is the cap you should have manufacturers. well, they will line up in line, and they fired for such cardboard. uh, look, when i was talking about cute cardboard. uh, our goal is to 100% replace uh in the domestic market. now somewhere we will evaluate. we replaced 80%, that is, when increasing our production capacities. we want to achieve this goal. we set it to the design capacity and thus completely close the market. moreover , we export 70% of our cardboard exports. how competitive are you here? i'll explain why, because, well, for example, when we buy paper paper for a newspaper, for example, or paper for packaging, then

the question always arises for magazines that finnish baltic is better and cheaper. it somehow turns out that if, for example, you want to publish a newspaper on high-quality paper. you won't call good. i am not doing anti-advertising for you now, but the question arises when i need to publish, for example, a good glossy magazine. i will most likely take finnish paper. she's more competitive or what, and here in the first place. you correctly noticed we are just entering the market. we mastered it and put it into operation 1.5 years ago, but that is, we, as they say, begin to master the market and enter into our products, and the second question is for our colleagues. after all, the main raw material for us is the balance, so as not to raise the price and we will be commercial, i can place you here. how many times have you raised the price of newsprint this year, you know how hard it is for journalists. believe me, any editorial office will tell you that paper is the most important cost alexander alexandrovich here

also in this sanctions outbreak. remember , we came across information that this ordinary white office paper, which we are accustomed to, has become almost at the price of gold bars. now this problem has been solved, remember then, please, it just happened, yes, and the question is that we do not have certain whitewash, almost one company in the world produces them, but somehow did it succeed? yes, now the problem is, in fact lifted it is essentially, well, uh remnants of the integrated. those problems that were with the destruction of all logistical ties, that is the european supplier refused to supply these political and russian consumers and our belarusian ones, and we were forced at the first stage to use e. start the production of unbleached pulp, respectively, to make unbleached products from it, but then we found alternative suppliers and the same european partners, literally in a month or two or three they returned to us and supply products, but the problem still remains and we

put before the task of that together with russian companies. and we were addicted finns from the swedes to build all the same such productions that can completely replace such key ones, they are not the main ones in our country in general, in paper about 90%, everything is even more than 95%, all this is wood and raw materials. yes, i have a question for you tell me if everything is 90% yours. why paper cherish was the trend right you were told? the trend of demand and rising prices for timber the prime cost of newsprint is more than 50% occupied by timber and energy. now, when these forests are here, and let's still understand our forest, it is growing in price. well, it seems like the fire is growing son, and he is growing. wait , look. just three weeks ago, we discussed here the question of why we have prices in stores here and the two main parameters that we were told about first - this is logistics,

because it suddenly became sharply complicated, because something was brought to us from - then the second is the intermediaries that appear here, i have a question about the forest, you say ours, these are your words 90% our forest is our logistics. well, how has such become the production of our pressure? no, well you say 90%, and the cost of newspaper paper has almost doubled. tell me, firstly, it didn’t double, uh, and they asked, well, our specialist, but this is the shklovsky hall of newsprint, the price grew only once a year, it was in june, and then we, at the suggestion of the ministry of information, we the price was lowered and in fact since then it has not been growing any more. yes, our costs are growing, but there is also the release of this newsprint for the domestic market. we date due to the fact that most of it is exported. and at the expense of foreign exchange earnings. we date the production inside belarus. that is, you even have to look at them like this, again

, it turns out that you send everything for export, and in order to make a good magazine in minsk or good packaging in minsk , you have to buy baltic goods, you know, different segments here and different levels of quality, we build and modernize production, based on a wide range of products that we can satisfy . certain type of product. see this packaging. i walk close. look at this packaging, which, in principle, is in every store for almost every product. it is precisely from this packaging that we cannot make, and as far as i remember, the president spoke about this. this is the kind of packaging i want. now we can do it. tell me. we will be able to essentially be, uh, monopolists so that only belarusians buy imported ones. here is the same import correctly. and when will the belarusian one be like that. well when you can give an approximate date, uh,

the task is, firstly, to load all our printing houses that are now producing this type of product, to switch to belarusian cardboard. and it will allow completely in the republic how can you force to force? see question here. eh, it's not clear. it is a key one of the moments , uh, development, because each manufacturer produces its own cardboard has some parameters. let's say we now go to the market, as i already told you 80%. and we closed the domestic market and we we constantly work closely with our partners, then with printing companies that produce packaging, we are tracking. some parameters. needs to be polished up. we are constantly involved in co-refining with our partners. here the question is still purely technological, it is necessary, but for ours, the question is not in accusation. how much more do we need to

catch up to fully occupy this market? well , what is the period, i perfectly understand the sanctions, perhaps we did not need to produce it earlier, because it was cheaper for us to produce a small batch from the same baltic states, but now that we are under lock and key, how long will it take for you to be technologically ready to 100% replace any cardboard, any joint work and our partners, the sooner we set up production, the faster it will be arrange our partners in our quality. eh, so will master. but this is the line at the dobrush factory that you spoke about, this is exactly what is done in production. uh investment this project. here is that line remind the production of which country? austria austria that's why our viewers join us here. thank you very much for your activity and the question addresses that the european market for woodworking equipment is closed to us. what will replace the polish lines, but i think that, well, not only the polish lines will be limited,

indeed these lines require some maintenance sooner or later, but we really will have a question. uh, how to be either to replace something new, after all, obviously belarusian analogues. we always say that we are ready to carry out import substitution of this or that, but we always face the fact that this import substitution is carried out on imported equipment. so here is the production of equipment for import substitution. here we are with him. it must be understood that not only in europe they make high-quality equipment for the production of paper, paper for woodworking, but also equipment is made in russia in large quantities, they learned how to make in china at the same time. yes, here it is being in cooperation, one should not forget that our belarusian is a very smart person, but this issue is agreed in the process. here we have been working for a little over a year, but our young specialists are already serving normally. i'll even say more.

this year we took 15 young specialists from higher educational institutions. that is, there is a process. e their er, introduction to our team in the development of production. and they master them for your line. in general, you don't have to worry. sabina, here we have something to say that your university is like ukraine's leading for production in the cis for the woodworking industry. you are also a young specialist, right? probably on purpose, as i understand it, including because, in order to competently sell, in your opinion, so far, only theoretically, i understand how we need to build this one, but the infrastructural sale. well, papers, either technology or science-intensive, some of these analogies so that we replace almost everything that is being done in the west, as far as i know, work is already underway in this direction actively and in particular from the fact that i saw it live, you can say, in examples in the same

forestries, and the equipment is imported. it is already being replaced already our machines are running. and amkodor which places. well, amkodor started making harvesters. yes, we never do it on the territory of belarus. it seems to me, i understand, that there is such a story, but still, maybe it’s hard to say something here, we don’t train a specialist, it turns out that a new separate niche appears, which, in principle, is needed to borrow and we already seem to see what people are worried about if there are plans for the construction of new production facilities related to the topic of discussion, so that not only a grocery store is opened, but jobs are given and import substitution is developed. but this ministry must answer. well, tell me, are there any plans to open new industries, or those industries that we have left from the soviet union. we have modernized them. there are enough of them quite right. today, again, here

we need to understand, uh, the volume of raw materials we procure for the needs of woodworking. and what can the door processing in general today to recycle so that this balance is maintained, because if production again there will be a lot of raw materials. for this you need a lot. well, i must understand that what we are doing here is not a question of the market, so that production grows together with the possibility of raw materials. yes, that is the environment for because the forest. e living organism should not be so we hack more than science has proven. yes , therefore, any extra cubic meter should go into production. and if these productions are not enough or more, this one is needed here balance. in essence, today we continue to talk about woodworking on our main wealth, and about whether we have broken firewood. eh, when certain journalists took certain

steps in this direction. well, uh, probably, hmm, all the inhabitants of our country remember those shots when a few years ago the head of state directly carried out such raids on borisov and natseevich very emotionally. then the president spoke. uh, he demanded that he demand that the modernization of these enterprises go on. well maybe proportionately. and to what amount of state money jumps there, time has passed. well, alexander anatolyevich, we have a question for you. has the company really changed or is the university still there? maybe the picture is completely different yes , but the production efficiency, of course, of course, the enterprise has changed for the better. e. today, ivantsevich, derevf, everyone knows in the twelfth year at your enterprise. yes,

everyone knows. now you will not see such a situation in the company at the plant, everything is very beautiful. i don't know if you have new footage. if there is no film about your enterprise a year and a half ago, i personally was in the store, ivatsevich drev. i will not name your current brand, let's talk about it a little differently. yes, well, there is a store, even in the shopping center of the capital i was personally there just a few days ago, but today the vc14 company is known not only within the country as manufacturers of laminated chipboard, but also in the russian federation and today they are known in europe and still want to buy our products for of its production. uh, ivatsevich derevf works with leading furniture manufacturers not with ordinary buyers who recycle laminated chipboard and make cheap furniture, but with brands, this company mr.

doors is the best company that produces. um, lux yes, as a person a little bit following marketing and i will say this thing, the more brands and name in your speech, the more expensive your product appears. well, we are talking about it correctly, but for us in fact. eh, the most important thing. probably to be cheap and high quality and having, for example, on the territory of belarus a certain number of industries and belarusian furniture cheap or belarusian building materials, well, cheap. here, well, there's a little bit. invest in national advertising. well , all the same, and when, uh, well, because again i compare. for example, your furniture is there or your stove, which is for sale. she's not very strong. uh, wins in price with the same polish, for example, analogues. well, that is, i understand everything, but how would all this large-scale work and investments of different brands and different technologies. it does not lead to a reduction in price,

unfortunately, but i can argue that today the furniture is produced by evatsevich. e, in its class is the cheapest on the market in its class. and here the class should be one in its class, but the class of the middle segment minus well, maybe your prices, now they have also succumbed to general trends and have fallen ah-ah. yes, the price of furniture, at least it has been preserved, or somewhere it has become even cheaper due to special promotions that are produced; moreover , this also contributes to an increase in our production over the past 2 years and in the next club increased the production of furniture five times. then the factory was actually built by my wife. well, yes, these are high-performance lines that produce , uh, several thousand batches. uh, cabinets a month, which is normal for a plant like this. we were just talking about this before the program about the finnish experience, when well, first of all, finland did not

use its wood much. for the sake of everything. yes, having uh, a small percentage of forests 5% produces a percentage of woodworking. yes. and how are you they said that one of the possible incentives is the development of the so-called cluster, right? when on the same marketing conditional january on advertising on promotion for each enterprise, and here are several enterprises using a common resource. here, i also understand that if, for example, the enterprise of ivatsevich dryaf used a cluster system. well , maybe, as a theorist, i’m wrong, maybe the products were cheaper. well, from your point of view, yes, that’s why it’s uniting, after all, i’m at the factory figure, for example, in europe 40% of the entire workforce forces work in the classrooms. they are different is not only woodworking engineering high-tech and so on. e in the united states, 60% of the gross product is created in the

classers. that is, the world has already proven that this is an effective form of organization. that is, these are enterprises that gather into a fist and not everyone has a marketing department specialist, maybe there is one marketer for the whole industry, well, some kind of super, who knows how to penetrate. such own ivatsevich chudrev and mustadrev we can unite and yes, yes, they unite technological and non-technological are even simply combined and one assumes that there is a legal structure that deeply knows the problem of their independence. eh, waved here such a yourself. the story is called andrey ivanovich you are ready to contribute to the cluster. work like this, and we work. and how does it look like in belarus today, the same bridges and nine more enterprises of the belgonprom concern. they are included in the holding in this case under the leadership of the company vasilievich drif, that is, the companies in the cut trees are the parent organization that determines the policy

strategy for the direction of development of each of these nine enterprises of the holding. that is what you propose. it already partially exists with us. well , you can compete with each other plus everything, yes, we do not need to compete. we why do we need to compete within the country, we comprehensively complement each other in order to comprehensively process the entire spectrum, we harvest wood, because when colleagues spoke here, it’s not only plywood raw materials, there is a balance of sawlogs, and firewood and so on. this is what needs to be reworked. and what, it means that we don’t need to compete within the country, that is, we don’t want to leave the belarusians, in principle, everyone has to choose among themselves between yes, well, they should complement each other approximately with themselves, and compete already in foreign markets . tell that's good. we have how many such holdings and how they compete, because there is a feeling that vatsevich andreev makes his products, he has occupied his niche, and no

one else is looking there. we have a group of three holdings, one pulp and paper - this belarusian wallpaper unites three productions. uh, ivatsevich is the newly created youngest. holding - this is a spanish holding , uh, which brings together 10 factories. they have indeed prepared a strategy for the development of the holding complex for 5 years, and after a certain period it is planned to achieve certain goals, that is, it is planned to create centers of competence for marketingus life for supply for supply already created , what you say is already functioning, it is already actually beginning to be implemented. i can explain. they are absolutely the rules in our legislation, the word put is not spelled out. master and therefore what he is different he is different, in principle, economically different. well, it looks like a cluster. there, the vertical lines up in the holding, but you have vertical a in the cluster horizontally. well, that's not the point with us. uh,

legally we can't say it's a cluster. we can theoretically call it a cluster, but practically it is called a holding, i associations, there and so on. that is a little different. means, let's call it now. right here, theorists here offer here not something that is renamed here in theory, correctly, alexander alexandrovich said that everyone should do their own thing correctly, when, for example, forestry, like silver consumers in the face of trees of enterprises, science wants together with scientists in terms of training personnel. uh, there's a question of strategy somewhere. here it works. the question is, what does all this combine today? well, maybe in our practice it is impossible, because every main task of the same forestries today guard protect the garden reproducer. i will give two questions again from people who are not knowledgeable in the woodworking industry. but, and the question

is exclusively in the forehead to you first, when we have normal packaging and alya tetraborate. well , explain. i came for milk, and i have the first package. i'm used to. yes, let's start from the base, that we are used to a certain quality. yes, it is clear that you can drink the same milk and from a different package, but we are used to a certain level. here in the birch, they say, let out unfortunate let out and the second question. we are all accustomed to, or rather, we have joined the global market, trade and in the global trade market we have been shown a certain example of how it is possible to trade in furniture. this is ikea we made for ikea. can we make a belarusian june in belarus? that's who can explain to me where alexander alexandrovich can appear in our belarusian ika, she can appear and appears, but here is the most important thing, the most. the main thing is that she sold ikea to the whole world, that is, she ordered hundreds of thousands identical products, which, due to their low

price, but due to the volume of production, were profitable for manufacturers. when we consider, only our belarusian market. it is small enough, capacious, but not enough, well, it's clear, well, we have to look. e partners all over the world, we have a growing volume of production and export of furniture. that is, if we take a separate concert in the summer, we go above the level of last year, although last year was almost a record, we had to completely reorganize and leave our european colleagues, which, unfortunately, after certain events, they stopped working with us and redirected to the russian market in kazakhstan, but we find a consumer there in uzbekistan, by the way. another addition to furniture furniture is the same as clothing. it can be different, it can be branded, it can be. there are mass-markets , there are no fashionable ones. yes, that's right, that's why we produce absolutely all types of furniture . ivatsevich, he occupied a certain niche pinzdrev. this is youth furniture. this is luxury furniture made from expensive materials. that is, here we find attempts to find compromises everywhere, with regard to the packaging of the votka, which we are used to. it was already by the standards of

the then luxury clothes that we will never wear again. see, with regard to packaging, a type tetrapack. uh uh, that was uh, the supplier. who supplied the republic of belarus with birch containers? unfortunately, 2 years ago, the company already ceased to exist and it no longer exists, because people are asking a question. you see, the release of packaging at the dobromsky factory will end in the same way as the release of this practice. of course it's a hateful comment. well anyway today, our good fellow produces cardboard, which will be the basis of the tetrapack, and now we are working in two directions. first, we attract the country of the investor, because, unfortunately, we do not yet have the competence and no. uh, maybe protected. as far as i know, quite right, yes, the rights are reserved, there are only 5-6 companies in the world that know the secrets that allow you to make this trail park, so we are currently working on attracting indians and chinese

. we are ready to provide raw materials. and you make the packaging, or the second direction alternative. this goes separately, or the second is with the tetrapack company in russia, which supplied the belarusian market. e. e, she had a break period of 2 months, when her swedish main shareholders stopped the full supply of interaction and cut all contracts. well, today they have earned and are ready to buy cardboard from us in exchange for maintenance for a guarantee that they will fully provide the belarusian market. we are now working in this direction, either creating in our country together with the chinese indians, or we sign some agreements with the russian federation and provide ourselves with tetrapas. and here is also a big gift on the eve of november 7 in the country. eh, our production has been opened. yes , the nbc has officially opened, and i will ask our directors now to give a short comment. colleagues worked hard and clarified. what kind of packaging for

the manufactured space product is used there at the enterprise. our packaging is the so-called three- layer paper bag with a polyethylene liner, what is it for? for this, amino acid products are export products. say so, this is an export type of product, so it must reach the client safely, so we lose a very large package, thank god for belarus, such a package is made in mogilev , and we are very pleased with it. we have been working with this supplier for a whole year and no complaints. we didn't have any packaging. well, here, it turns out, everything is absolutely. we can produce it ourselves and enable our enterprises to earn more . see this question. we are very concerned about the environment. and how many times have we had this talking about the fact that it's time to transfer all the paper bags that flew to the paper cups. we are ready for this. now you are ready once and for all, and tomorrow everyone has become

ecological, uh, well, we still have at least 70 percent of plastic straws or not. we are ready to replace plastic packaging, but, probably, in my opinion. not ready to consume, firstly, it will be more expensive, as it were, on paper. we didn't want paper anyway - it's a reusable option, but still costing 2:00 is 2 1/2 times more expensive than polyethylene basically, we are ready. as for the bag, this is really how it happened, why we were able to make these products, we built a plant in svetlogorsk that produces cellulose from cellulose, as we heard, we actually recycle waste, that is, its wood, the most consumer, the highest quality wood is used e, in in the production of furniture in the production of some expensive materials, and everything else is recycled for the purpose of healing , paper is made from paper, a bag is made. and so this allowed to close in the market. including this,

actually. uh, when the president brought up the topic of investing money in wood processing. well, it's been over 15 years. but what do you think, which one? well, how we have advanced over these 15 years in terms of production. and in terms of sales ready to sell. see. i'll just give you a few numbers. e for understanding. if earlier we had a promo exported at the end. well, our main trees, producing and whole-paper enterprise exported from 200 to 300 million us dollars then over the past year, a billion, that is, we have tripled the second import substitution, if earlier we imported hundreds of millions of dollars of pulp and paper products, woodworking in the same furniture today. we have import substitution. here is our program, which is already 20 years old. it is constantly being updated, developed, approved, so next year we will approve it literally in a week there. uh, it’s already deliveries that are dedicated to

hundreds of millions of dollars, to be exact about 300-400 million us dollars, that is, this effect from the program that we have carried out, but what niche we have not yet closed. maybe your concern is some other enterprise. well, in due time about the svetlogorsk central control commission. yes, he was long-suffering, but it seems like now, but no one asks questions and there is no dispute about what is needed. this is an enterprise, mine obviously see, and its necessity and the effect that we have received. eh, on the same one that we are now deciding. you also asked questions here. what new investment projects. we will implement already at the stage. such is the, uh, design survey and already construction start of construction work on the processing of cellulose. we will build a new paper to make a valuable machine that will allow us to further process this pulp, to have added value in finished products and leave it in the republic of belarus, that is, we are moving on and

these new production facilities will be in the country in the same ivatsevichi ref, now a new investment project is being implemented to increase the processing of boards into lamination. that is, in fact, almost every enterprise has projects that, well, will advance us somewhere further andrey anatolievich and here, as regards development. well, uh, in order for all these enterprises to work, of course, raw materials are needed. here is what we will do along the line, what will you do, along the line of the ministry, for the preservation of our main wealth , the so-called production has been explained, and i will explain, really a lot lately. we, uh, hear that uh are being cut down, that forests are dying, there for some year we have a bark beetle for some year a hurricane, that is, obviously many people say. just remember how around minsk used to be green, beautiful, everywhere you look, everywhere, there is a forest, now there is construction everywhere, one gets the impression. what, well indeed at some point we may collide. with a deficit

of this forest. what are you doing? how are you doing? uh, what measures are being taken. all of us today are indirectly just the same, uh, those natural disasters that happen, wood - in any case, we go and eliminate the consequences of these charms. yes, in particular, this year's may brull was especially large of the order of 10.000 a hectare of only one solid sanitary fish. everything has been removed. everything has been cleaned up. everything has been introduced into the production of products under the brand of a hurricane-bark beetle, something else, maybe a specialist or again a lot of control over the economy, who can follow this under the theme of the brand. eh, it can’t be, as far as the topic is concerned, exactly what we said today, whatever the volumes of production, or the volumes of processing, are necessary.

they have always converged directly with harvesting . today, this is the topic of logging. why sharply stood like once? uh, what the post-war forest was talking about today, the age of maturity of the forest is just 80 years. i mean, we're filming today in the woods. if it’s possible, so to speak, the harvest, yes, that is, if it is harvested on the field once a year, we have 80 years, yes, that’s why the topic here is these, mu- perhaps some kind of massive felling. believe us, ours must then be overloaded seriously. eh, the enterprises are not overloaded with everything in the usual systematic planned work. again, touching the windbreak system, if we are all a republic, let's go to mogilevshchi, but carry out the elimination of the consequences of boreholes, then somewhere in healthy plantations in planned activities. we did not go to the week of the forest, which takes place annually. it gives results, of course, it gives results. yes, as far as reproduction is concerned, the annual silvicultural fund is about thirty-five thousand hectares. this is

annually what sits down directly by us people, and moreover, taking into account the necessary volumes of reproduction in the conditions of some kind of cataclysms, this windbreak is also a bug. here, these volumes will only grow. people will help you. i, of course, i will not voice everything. but sergey e, is indignant at the fact that there is a sea in the forests of deadwood, and it’s a whole problem to write it out even for firewood to clean up in the forest in a rural enterprising resident. here , uh, belarusian citizens are law-abiding and, probably, this question. well, anyway. yes, here it is necessary in detail, if specifically for the respected sergei, then it is necessary to specifically understand. what was the immediate moment and why such a controversial issue turned out to be another question, that there are different types of fish , that is, there are fellings for the main use. there are cuttings for intermediate use. there is tubes. let's just say something else, where are we just this wood, which is more for fuel purposes and we are doing it, so the question is

, why was it here ? what i want to say is these questions. too. here. actually. why did we do today that parts of the self-harvesting of firewood are still the population, maybe they cut down the christmas tree for the new year. yeah, it concerns commercial wood, then today it is harvesting directly the outcome, because he has all the skills. for this, in terms of labor protection, so that there are no related issues, in short. tell me, please, here, uh, your enterprise is the oldest among us. strictly speaking, yes, the same age as the revolution even more. so we, in fact, all grew up on the fact that i would always have a notebook in my hand and from the first to the eleventh grade. ah, and now your products are known in belarus or somewhere else, well, what markets did you manage to conquer and how much this

products are competitive abroad. you correctly noted that in order to get to know us more , uh, the new product of our cardboard also helps us, as i told you, before the imposition of sanctions, we sent cardboard to 35 countries. this is south america north africa asia europe cis countries now , unfortunately, after the imposition of sanctions, we have reoriented to russia to the countries of central asia, therefore, our product. we represent very broadly. but in connection with the sanctions, it has become more difficult for you to work, or else. well, they adjusted what to say that it was very simple of course not, but there were problems at one time with supplies, huh? calcium with the supply of sizing reagents that were supplied to us from europe, well, and we quickly reoriented to friendly countries,

in particular to russia, i will not give out secrets to others. and now the raw material is supplying us with questions of silence. and here you have this sanctions pitching, somehow touched your enterprise. no, well, of course, touched upon, it cannot be said that we somehow remained on the sidelines. well, we must take into account that our enterprise is located 50 km from the polish border. naturally, taking into account this geographic specificity, the whole exprostration to the west, since it was also a more marginal market. the sanctions have already been in effect for about 5.5 months. but you need to understand that we used to supply approximately. percent, probably, 85 of its entire production of the countries of western europe, let's say so. today we have almost all of this volume, but maybe 75 percent have completely reoriented to the eastern and southeastern direction in just 5 months. yes, there were some problems. some turbulence. some

productions. we have, let's say, partly reduced the volume of production. but there is a production that tripled by 300% the volume of production of the same laminate. before the beginning of this entire decree on e, the construction of our factories, belarus did not produce laminate at all from the word at all. well, it was easier to buy, of course. today, only bridges produce such an amount that belarus consumes everything taken together in a year. therefore, today we have these huge volumes, we significantly increased and redirected to those markets, where is this one? demanded, where we do not create obstacles and so on, so this is the east. this is central asia, this is the same russia well, russia to a lesser extent, because we were talking about the fact that there is a problem that something is loaded for everyone the same, and it will be solved more at the world state levels. still, you will agree that if we have a tone of goods worth, well, for example

, 200-250 dollars, and it is one thing to start it for 500 km. europe is another matter for 7.000. china of course there is a problem, but believe me, it will be solved at the state level, and we will continue to return to this problem less and less somewhere nearby and political decisions, as always, i literally briefly spoke today about the revolution about revolutionary decisions that in of their time were accepted in our field of woodworking . so, uh, it's obvious. they were received correctly, but only progressively. and such a creative development, well, it probably made it possible not to break firewood for us and go this way not to say that without a hitch, but as efficiently and smoothly as possible? well , let me again congratulate everyone on the centenary of the october revolution, although alena does not believe, this day gave us a lot, including in woodworking.