on september 15 of this year in samarkand, within the framework of the meeting of the council of heads of state of the sco , a week of film screenings of leaf fall in the poster is ending . festival marathon of master classes, teachers of the all-russian state university of cinematography film critic share their experience. mikhail trofimenkov and the winner moscow international film festival sergei debitzhevshey films determines and the jury intrigue will be resolved at the closing ceremony of the film festival on november 11 at the moscow cinema the union state prize in the field of literature and art. the authors of the project were presented with the historical memory of the union state, the award ceremony took place the day before in moscow, the award is awarded once every 2 years and traditionally this happens during the

opening of the slavic bazaar festival this year on the stage of the summer amphitheater. vitebsk already received by the sculptors of the rzhev memorial. to the soviet soldier and the authors of concert programs of different years of the slavic bazaar, however, some authors among them, and twice hero of the soviet union, pilot cosmonaut pyotr klimuk, for various reasons, could not come to vitebsk and for them these days they specially held a solemn ceremony in moscow on the air, the weekly public political talk show in essence. today we have a festive air, but we will talk not so much, but about the holiday as about the earthly and familiar, but

about traditions and new ones about how not to break firewood, and prick them. and you can become a participant in our discussion. here is the qr code at the bottom of the screen. point your smartphone and join the chat your opinion or your questions. we will be able to ask the speaker of our studio. well, with you, as usual, kirill kazakov and alena serova hello well , alena and i had a little creative argument before the start of the program, after all, what can we talk about november yes, after all, november 7 and all the people who are not indifferent to this holiday congratulations on the 100th anniversary of the october revolution, after all, well, the occasion is quite serious on the other hand, as if today a new tradition that appeared thanks to our president. here we have the entourage block firewood and, in fact, this has become. yeah, she's such a little backstory. ah, just a month ago, the state met with

journalists in khatyn. and at the same time, the idea was born that it would be great and useful to spend time here in support of the presidential flash mob, which he launched and demonstrated. in the chopping of firewood and the desire to be able, in which case, to substitute a shoulder to our european colleagues, and today we held a championship among media representatives . as a matter of fact, i told the president that, probably, belarusians should be able to do this, be able to enjoy nature and be able to. as a matter of fact, prepare firewood but like a man. he probably did it right. yes, that's it, but the grass yes team minsk pravda team won first place ctb team won presidential sympathy. while you talk, and i'll bring the team of our tv channel received contemptuous sympathy, and did not leave empty-handed. now kiril vladimirovich will take our prize to the studio. this is hello from the vitebsk region, such a loaf, it

will take me to show everyone, it’s not here to taste the transfer of the game already when it’s already finished, yes, yes, well, before to bread, then already spectacles and directly to the topic of our today’s program. let's start our topic. well, we understand that it's great that wood and the woodworking industry are not firewood at all. although wood. this includes the economy and, probably, the global economy and the economy that we have been developing for more than a dozen years and we are talking about the fact that, in fact, our country is a forest. we are not only blue-eyed. we are also yes, the country of the forest. and here, as a matter of fact, in order to reconcile our topic with you. yes, the editors prepared a video from the woodland in the sixties for us, but planted it. and so it's beautiful with birch trees. i don’t see it, probably, this is spruce and these spruce guitars in the word lenin uh-huh well

, as a matter of fact, the seventh of november and the forest became friends. now we can say yes, well, that's all the global begins, of course, with the everyday, and here we are in recent times. probably, for the last few years we have been hearing the story that we are proud of our hectares of forest, and ordinary belarusians have nothing to heat the house with. here, there is not enough firewood, and sergey ivanovich, probably, here is a question for you, your leader, as well as a form, you can immediately contact you, where is the firewood? yes, where is the firewood your leader sent you to us today for execution, therefore, here's to you. in fact, this issue with firewood is being solved today, as if all applications that come in are closed a short time a little this procedure streamlined. it used to be a man. he just calls by phone, makes an appointment and thinks that firewood should be brought to me. actually today. uh, a person should apply to the forestry at the

place of residence, where it is more convenient for him. there he concludes an agreement, pays, and after payment , firewood is delivered to him home within 10 days. well, look at the forestry. again, i argue from the point of view of a city dweller, what forestry is for me. well , as i don’t have, for example, not a fireplace or a stove firewood, for me it is, well, exclusively from cartoons and news, nothing more. uh, the forest department that allows me there forbids going to the forest allows me to go to the forest. i can come there. i don’t know how to make a fire there. maybe when i want to build some kind of house. i will contact the forestry to buy myself, for example a board, although on the other hand. after all, this is already forestry. you must somehow protect the forest to renew, and already the board is, as it were, yours, well, as it were, an economic function, but it is not the main after all, well, yes, yes. well, that is, here's how to understand what forestry is? forestry is a structural

subdivision of the leshoz that deals with as you say guarding the forest. the fund, the cultivation of future forests, also harvesting takes place in forestry, both commercial timber and drovyanoy a is already engaged in sawn timber directly, or can be purchased at the woodworking workshop, which is also our separate structural unit. you have two stores, two stores in minsk, probably not in vain opened. why minsk while one. ok then. you say that there will be a second one, that is, you talked about the program one opened derzhinsky and just recently opened in minsk the tax tract, 52. somewhere we also sell lumber directly. uh, the planed products of this clapboard block house. uh, the floor board is also made, a separate corner. uh products from our nursery are ornamental plants, christmas trees,

buy and for yes, paint your garden plot. well, this is such a particular andrey antonovich you are responsible for the sale of products in whole global. and can m-m trend us to designate what is now more in demand. i mean , even abroad it is clear that we can not, relatively speaking, export round timber. we know this. well, what types of products are the only ones that are sent to europe round timber. and kruga well, i'm somewhere now, if possible, i'll add her ivancha. yes, that is, about the store. yes, there is a task. not what is the polish or the organization as a whole today. here's after as an example, yes, uh, to get the job done, just the same in cooperation with local authorities to open just these trading platforms. uh, any consumer can find products, what to say, in any color and taste. yes, therefore, uh, the second point of the kopol forestry. also appears in

minsk until the end. years on zhdanovichi, it is still planned to open two points on sharangovich and on mashinostroiteley, therefore i am convinced that the products are produced by the forestry. enough for everyone, but all forestries open these points of sale. that is, we have. strictly speaking, well, i understand, the collective farm. yes he grows there a certain kind of bird, another parcel of meat, and sells it yes. well, the leshoz, in principle, as it seemed to me, was a kind of centralized structure that should procure uh, firewood, and b boards that come in. like building somewhere else. well, that is, such a soviet system that has not been reborn. here explain how it now works on the one hand correctly, everything has been identified as the main task. today, or gatherings, this is to provide the domestic market of our partners in the face of the concern-industrial enterprise. uh, raw wood the second task that the population of the housing and communal services of the ministry of energy faces with wood fuel and the third task that we set today is the fact that

ceramic processing production is concentrated in organizations in the forestry enterprises. few people knew about us that we can produce this primary sawn product. yes, somewhere in the field, they knew everything more clearly, but this niche. well not that occupied a private place is cheaper. that is, if you cut boards where you grow forest, it is probably cheaper. quite right, of course, there will be logistics. uh, somewhere extra level we are talking about the fact that yes wood gives birth, the demand for it is growing. and now, how we feel against this background, there is enough timber for everyone , if the question is about this in terms of consumption today, the stock of the republic of belarus is in physical terms. this is 1.8 billion cubic meters of timber, so timber. enough for everyone , both for the population and for our consumers, if we talk about the global level. uh-huh, and it is said about the forestry. that is not the task today

to export everything as much as possible. yes, that is, why did i say that the primary task is domestic consumption and it was not in vain that once the head of state was ordered to stop the export of round timber. and today we see that this decision was verified and correct, and having modernized the enterprises of the concern with bellisbaum, irina vasilievna processes everything that the forestry harvests today within the republic. , in a sense in terms of relationship to the forest. we talked about the fact that our western partners. save your resources and until recently, but now the situation is forcing people. it’s just that the carpathians haven’t cut down everything yet on the coast, you understand? the fact is that you asked if we have enough wood and many say, oh, they are cutting down and

there will be no forest in belarus, and so on. uh, i can assure you that just, uh, well, the experts will correct me. i'm not a forester by education at all. eh, they say that if you do not cut down in time what has grown, but they say a lot was planted, the post-war period. and just now the time has come when it is necessary saw, yes, that is just yes, not what kind of holiday you are still talking about, in fact, in forestry . these are after military landings. uh, the age of the pipe. today is 80 years old, just today there is a peak for these here from an economic point of view. ah. we were a few hmm years ago , dozens, probably even years ago, but we decided to invest in modernization ten years ago, just the same as ours in this industry. and that is, we take agriculture there, this is one pillar of our forest resources - this is another word. we could sell this wood could export it. yes, and we in your opinion, from the point

of view. for an economist, the investments that the state made then, the investments now do not justify themselves everywhere, but they do. i mean, i think last year there was even a line check. uh, i don't remember being alone anymore. lenin was attracted, even our university, er, and now from my department. uh, financier, uh, went to study the financial situation. uh, after the modernization of this industry, it was done. everything is absolutely right it is one thing to really drive round timber, there is no added value and, accordingly. yes we can get. uh, as a result, that is, they sold and received, but uh, not such a large amount today to make it clear. now, if i'm always with the russians, when i say e, i say well. you have oil. yours is gold, and our gold, that we are once gold wood, we make five of everything. if we take all our exports five.

percent is accounted for by woodworking and well. if we do. and by the way, i want to say, of course, not all enterprises make good furniture, but there are enterprises that, before all these events in europe, they generally said that it was even very cheap. although, well, in ikea there was belarusian furniture, everyone knows about it. well, yes, a popular example is the furniture that makes the whole minsk world. well, in general, this is nonsense. namely , we didn’t know that she was belarusian. i’m sorry. well , yes, see, no, we supply them with good products and they love our products. do you know what's the problem? why a little furniture went to europe first, there is a lot of competition. you do not forget that the italians from time immemorial. uh, they took care of the wood and did what they wanted, okay? yes, absolutely correct, but we have, uh, and here he is often told to us about this by foreigners of design here on

the focus of this design is not good, that is, we try and do it does not mean that it is not. well, here's the beauty, it's, uh, the beauty of the furniture. it 's it's in times. so let's say, peaceful now the situation is somewhat different, and look at the wood, this is beautiful, or it's just not, it's not necessary, beautiful or it's just practical. or maybe yes, about beauty, but still everyone wants to live in warmth, and therefore now, they actively remember the tree as a source of heat for sabin. i know that you are in some way connected with work, therefore, in this direction. and here again, a few years ago, in the name of the revolution, the president demanded to establish pellet production in belarus, in my opinion today. we have 28 such ticket factories, as far as you can tell. eh, hmm, this idea paid off. and do we need more? venture yourself

i certainly justified it, however, lately it is possible, of course, to say that i don’t want to call it problems, there are some challenges that, probably, simply create an additional incentive to work even harder . even better, there is a question. still, the need to reorient trade flows to rehabilitate exports, and a ticket to other countries and european countries. yes, although the population has desires, here is a political enterprise. yes, the enterprises themselves are the population itself, the end consumer. i would like to purchase our products, but unfortunately, belarus is for belarusians. tickets are not needed, but they are needed a and this year, as far as i know already, and sales to the domestic market are higher than previous years, and this year, among other things, due to the fact that europe does not want to talk, she refused everything- however, if we are talking about people and businesses who are not able to purchase our products, including. uh, our pellet mills

just have to pay more attention to the domestic market. and i think that our inner the consumer can benefit from this, but they mainly buy uzbekistan. yes, she developed the idea modestly about her project. eh, what a thing. here in the past, last year we do not last year, but in the winter we did these projects. and so she, in particular, chose the project of supplying pellets to uzbekistan. now i have a girl studying in my fourth year. eh, uzbek, and she really says that they don't have wood, they say we can dig them for you. we have a lot of this, but there is absolutely no wood. i am i say, and how do you heat the gas to stretch it? yes, it will be cheaper, well, there is still no infrastructure. we have infrastructure in belarus, and therefore we said here that tickets or gas are cheaper, of course, while gas is. and they that's to always have gas, and they do not have this infrastructure. yes, build , so they are interested in pellets and sabina

chose the right project. and so she was engaged, and how to deliver logistics to uzbekistan, but here the problem arises, purely theoretically. we can draw any logistics with her now, in that side, that is, in the direction of e asia, when something goes overloaded transport yes, transport lines, and therefore an iraqi is now studying with us. we have a lot of foreigners studying here, and he says, i want to supply iraq with, well, certain products. i say somehow you will work out the logistics, and he says, if there are good ports along the caspian every yes, yes. he says we go out and the cancer comes out to eat good. i say there are good ports there. yes, we have good, in fact, the border between belarus there is no russia, so there is thus to judge only from the physical sea. this is an inland sea, including our state. it's very good if you set up this logistics so that

you can show it. everything is so simple theoretically for me. we can draw anything with sabina. and when you encounter it is impossible, well, to reorient our enterprises to or maybe, when building new enterprises, take into account this type of fuel, in your opinion, how promising. well i guess re-modernize, maybe it would be somewhat more difficult. but it is precisely during the construction of new enterprises that such an opportunity should be immediately laid down. i think it's quite possible and i think it might work. but, although we are talking about the fact that some is more expensive than e, gas, and hardly anyone will go for it. well, yes, we have the infrastructure, you know, if there are sites or territories where it makes no sense to run a gas pipeline, and just if you calculate how much it costs to build it there, it may be. in terms of fuel a little to another topic. wait. here we are, and the wood in your outcome on paper was guessed. that

's why a tree that should go on paper, for example, here again i ask, as an amateur, why should it be different from all the others that are being ordered, which will later turn into leaves in a piece of paper in a box. here, let's say the rest. well, we usually ship. this is a plant ha. papers are basically tank-sized pulpwood. and here's how it's here explain to me here's how i'll come and tell you. this tree on paper. this definitely won't fit. it 's just for firewood. these are usually balance sheets. they are thin, with a diameter of about six dashes 13 cm, the top yes, yes, yes, yes and so, basically, you can say this e low-grade, e, the wood is shipped for papermaking alexander nikolayevich and the cups you have are from what strong from what width of wood? yes it is important to be look. hey, we've just mastered a new product. we not only entered the production of criminal cardboard within the framework

of the president's investment project in this spoke, what we have to replace with almost high addedness. here we have mastered the production of cardboard. uh-huh from this cardboard produces paper cups and plates. well, uh, let it be known that in belarus teleport uh, somewhere around 10 minutes. yes, this is where your packaging is already, i showed it for a sample. why is our coated cardboard interesting, because look, you can produce, uh, high-quality multi-color printing on our cardboard, in addition, you can varnish it with foil, i do it very interesting, first of all the buyer, than he takes with his eyes, he likes it. well , look when it happened. this is another outbreak of sanctions and have arisen. they really had problems with the packaging. until now , there are some signals that at some enterprises there, then milk is actually poured into some kind of tara. here is the package. that's

how you or something else you should have been the manufacturers, well, they lined up for such cardboard. look when i talked about skillon cardboard. e, our goal is to replace 100%, to the domestic market. now somewhere we have replaced 80%, that is, by increasing our production capacities. we want to achieve this goal. we set it to the design capacity and thus completely close the market. moreover, we export 70% of our cardboard exports. how competitive are you here? i will explain why, because, well, for example, when we buy paper paper for a newspaper, for example, or paper for packaging, then or for magazines, the question always arises, what finnish baltic is better and cheaper. it somehow turns out that if, for example, you want to publish a newspaper on high-quality paper. you won't

call good. i am not doing anti-advertising for you now, but the question arises when i need to publish, for example, a good glossy magazine. i will most likely take finnish paper. it is more competitive or something, and here in the first place. you correctly noticed that we are just entering the market. we just mastered it and put it into operation 1.5 years ago, i mean, we are starting to explore the market and are entering their products, and the second question to our colleagues. after all, the main raw material for us is the balance, so that the price does not rise and we will be commercially capable. i'll place you here. how many times have you raised the price of newsprint this year, you know how hard it is for journalists. believe me, any editorial staff will tell you that the paper is the most important thing, the cost of alexander, here, too, in this outbreak of sanctions. remember, we came across information that this ordinary white office paper, which we are accustomed to, has become almost not at the price of gold bars. now this problem

has been solved, remember then there was yellow paper in the office now, and the question that we do not have certain whitewash, almost one company in the world produces them, but somehow did it succeed yes now the problem has actually been removed , well, uh remains integrated. those problems that were with the destruction of all logistical ties, that is , the european supplier refused to supply for political reasons to both russian consumers and our belarusian ones, and we were forced to stage use e. start the production of unbleached pulp, respectively, to make unbleached products from it, but then we found alternative suppliers and the same european partners, literally in a month or two or three they returned to us and supply products, but the problem still remains and we put before a challenge that is shared with russian companies. and we were dependent on the finns from the swedes to build, nevertheless, such production facilities that could completely replace such key ones, they are not the main ones in our country at all

paper is about 90% all its own, even more than 95%, all this is wood and raw materials. i have a question for you tell me if everything is 90% yours. why paper price rises was a trend right you were told? there was a trend of demand and rising prices for timber, the cost of newsprint, more than 50% is occupied by timber and energy. here, when these are ours here, and let's figure it out again, our forest is growing in price. well, it seems like the son is growing, and he is growing. wait, look. we here literally 3 weeks ago discussed the question of why prices are rising in stores and the two main parameters that we were told about, the first one is logistics, because it suddenly became sharply complicated, because something was brought to us from somewhere, and the second is the intermediaries that appear here, i have a question , speak out our forest. these are your words 90% our forest

is our logistics. well, how was this remained production. our company is not, but you say 90%, and the cost of newspaper paper has almost doubled. tell me first, she didn’t grow twice, uh, and they asked, well, our specialist from kindly, but e to the shklov hall of newsprint, the price grew only once a year, it was in june, and then we lowered this price at the suggestion of the ministry of information and, in fact, since then it has not been growing any more. yes, our costs are growing, but there is also the release of this newsprint for the domestic market. we date due to the fact that most of it is exported. and at the expense of foreign exchange earnings. we date the production inside belarus. that is, you even have to look at them like this, again it turns out that you send everything to export, and in order to make a good magazine in minsk or good packaging in minsk , you have to buy baltic goods, you know, here are different segments and different levels of quality, we are building

and modernizing production, based on a wide range that we can satisfy, and here are already highly specialized types of products that are mentioned for there glossy magazines for a certain type of product. see this upa. forging i don't go far. look, this is the packaging, which, in principle, is in everyone shop for almost every product. this is precisely the kind of packaging we cannot produce, and as far as i remember, the president spoke about this. this is the kind of packaging i want. now we can do it. tell us, we can, in fact, be, uh, monopolists in order to buy only belarusian and imported, that's the same imported right. and when is the belarusian one? well, when are the approximate dates, you can name, uh, the task is, firstly, to download all our printing houses that are currently producing this type of product switch to belarusian cardboard. and this will completely replace in the republic of belarus. how can you force force. see the question here.

e, he is ambiguous, he is a lot of key one of the moment is. ah, exploration. e, each manufacturer produces its own cardboard has some parameters. suppose we now go to the market, as i already told you, 80%, and we have closed the domestic market and we are constantly working closely with our partners, then with printing companies that produce packaging, we are tracking. some parameters. needs to be polished up. we are constantly involved in co-refining with our partners. here the question is still purely, technologically it is necessary, but for ours, the question is not in the accusation. tom, how much longer do we have to catch up with this man? well, what is the period, i perfectly understand the sanctions, perhaps we did not need to produce it earlier, because it was cheaper for us to produce a small batch from the same baltic states, but now that we are under lock and key, how long do we need to

technologically, you were ready to replace any cardboard 100% curiously, the work of us and our partners, the faster we set up production, the faster our partners will be satisfied with our quality. eh, so will master. but this is the line at the dobrush factory, about which you spoke about this one and it is being made in production. uh investment this project. here is the line. she remind the production of which country? austria austria that's why our viewers join us here thank you very much for your activity and the question addresses that the european market for woodworking equipment is closed to us. what will replace the polish lines, but i think that ah, we will limit ourselves not only to the polish ones, really. these same lines also require a certain service, sooner or later, but we really will have a question. but what to do, or to replace something new, because obviously belarusian analogues. we always say that we are ready

to carry out import substitution of this or that, but we always face the fact that this production of import substitution is carried out on imported equipment. so here is the production of equipment for import substitution. here we are with him. it must be understood that not only in europe they make high-quality equipment for the production of paper, paper for woodworking, but also equipment is made in russia in large quantities, they learned how to make in china at the same time. yes, and being in cooperation, one should not forget that our belarusian is a very smart person. well, this question agree in the process. we have been working for a year now small, but our young specialists are already serving normally. i'll even say more. this year we took 15 young specialists from higher educational institutions. that is, there is a process. e their er, introduction to our team in the development of production.

and they master them for your line. in general, you don't have to worry. sabina, here we have something to say that your university is the ukrainian leader for production in the cis for the woodworking industry. you are also a young specialist, right? probably, we specifically, as i understand it, including and therefore, in order to competently sell in your opinion, so far only theoretically i understand how we need to build this one, but the infrastructural sale. well, papers or technology, or science-intensive, some of these analogies so that we replace almost everything that is being done in the west, as far as i know, work is already underway in this direction actively and in particular , from what i saw on the living, you can say, in the examples in the same forestries, and the equipment is imported. it is already being replaced, our machines are already working, and amkodor is being installed. well cador harvesters

started doing. yes, i have never done it on the territory of belarus. it seems to me, i understand that there is such a story, but still, it may be difficult to say something here, we don’t train a specialist, it turns out that a new separate niche appears, which, in principle, is needed, but engage in and here we are, apparently, we see that people are worried about what questions, if you will, if plans for the construction of new industries related to the topic and discussions, so that not only a grocery store is opened, but to give jobs and develop import substitution. but this ministry must answer. well, tell me, are there any plans to open new industries, or those industries that we have left from the soviet union? we have modernized them. there are enough of them. quite right. today, again, here we need to understand, uh, the volume of raw materials we procure for the needs of woodworking. and the fact that the door processing as a whole can be reworked today so that this balance is maintained, because if the production again there will be a lot of projectile. for this you need a lot. well

, of course, i must understand for what we what we are doing here is not a question of the market, so that production grows together with the possibility of raw materials. yes, that is the raw material for because the forest. e living organism should not be so we can not chop more than science has proven. yes, therefore, any extra cubic meter should go into production. and if these productions are not enough or more, this one is needed here. in essence, today we continue to talk about woodworking on our main wealth, and about whether we have broken firewood. uh, when certain certain steps were taken in this direction. well, uh, probably, hmm, all the inhabitants of our country remember those shots when a few years ago the head of state directly carried out such raids on both borisovrev and yegotsevich very

emotionally then the president spoke hmm demanded that he demanded that the modernization of these enterprises went. well, probably in proportion. and how much money the state is downloading there has passed time. well, alexander anatolyevich chuisky has a question for you. has the company really changed or is it now, outwardly there can be a picture completely. other yes, but that's the production efficiency, of course, of course, the enterprise has changed has changed for the better. today, ivantsevich, derevf, everyone knows in the twelfth year at your enterprise. yes, everyone knows. now you will not see such a situation in the company at the plant, everything is very beautiful. i don't know if you have new footage. if not, make a film about your enterprise a year and a half ago. i personally was in shop and in

ottsevich drev. i won't name your current brand, let's talk about this a little differently. yes, but there is a store, i even personally visited the shopping center of the capital. there just a few weeks ago, but today, uh, the company knows not only domestically as manufacturers of laminated chipboard, but also in the russian federation and today they know in europe and still want to buy our products for their production. uh, ivatsevich works. uh, with leading furniture manufacturers not with uh, ordinary buyers who recycle laminated chipboard they make cheap furniture with a stove, and with brands, this company mr. dorsa is the best company that produces uh, cool, yes, as a person a little bit following in marketing i will say such a thing, the more brands are called in his speech, the more expensive your product appears. well. and for us

, actually, uh, the most important thing. probably to be cheap and of high quality and having, for example, a certain amount of furniture production on the territory of belarus, and buy, but belarusian furniture is cheap or belarusian building materials, but cheap. here, well, well, there invest a little in national advertising. well , all the same, and when, well, because again i compare. here's an item in your furniture there or your stove that's for sale. she's not very strong. uh, it wins in price with the same polish, for example, analogues. well, that is, i understand everything, but, as it were, this is all large-scale work and investments of different brands of different technologies. it after all leads to cheaper, unfortunately. and i can argue for today the furniture produced by hdf. e in its class is the cheapest on the market in its class, and here it should be cool to be one in its class, but the class

of the middle segment is minus. well, your prices may be, now they have also succumbed to general trends and have fallen. yes , the price of furniture, at least it has been preserved, or somewhere it has become even cheaper due to special promotions, which, moreover, it also contributes to an increase in our production over the past 2 years and, in the reflections, has increased the production of furniture five times, then my wife plant practically built. well, yes, these are high-performance lines that produce, uh, several thousand batches. uh, cabinets a month, which is normal for a plant like this. we were just talking about this before the program about the finnish experience, when, well, first of all, finland didn’t use its wood much, it was purchased. yes, having uh, a small percentage of wood 5% produces interest. and how did you

say that one of the possible incentives is the development of so-called classes, right? when on the same marketing conditional january on advertising on promotion for each enterprise, and here are several enterprises using a common resource. here too i understand that if, for example, uh, ivatsevich dryaf's enterprise used a cluster system. well , maybe, as a theorist, i’m wrong, maybe the products were cheaper. well, from your point of view from my point of view. yes, that's why they unite, after all, i'm on the factory figure, for example, in europe 40% of the entire workforce works in classrooms. they are different. it is not only woodworking, high-tech engineering and so on. e in the united states, 60% of the gross product is created in the classers. that is, the world has already proved that it is an effective form of organization. that is, these are enterprises that gather into a fist and not everyone has a marketing department specialist, maybe there is

one marketer for the whole industry, but some super who knows how to penetrate. we can unite those who own ivatsevich-drev and mustadrev, and yes, yes, they are united technologically and non-technological even simply united, and one assumes that there is a legal structure that deeply knows the problem of their independence. eh, waved here such a yourself. the story is called andrey ivanovich you cluster ready. work like this we work. and how does it look like in belarus today, the same bridges and nine more enterprises of the belsbumprom concern. they are part of the holding in this case, under the leadership of the vasiliev company, that is, the company in cut relief is the parent organization that determines the policy strategy for the direction of development of each of these nine enterprises of the holding. that is what you propose. it already partially exists with us. well , you can compete with each other plus everything,

yeah, we don't have to compete. we why do we need to compete within the country, we comprehensively complement each other in order to comprehensively process the entire spectrum, we harvest wood, because when colleagues spoke here, it’s not only plywood raw materials, there is a balance sawlog, and firewood and so on. this is what needs to be reworked. and what, it means that we don’t have to compete within the country, that is, we don’t want to leave the belarusians, in principle, everyone took up the elections among themselves between yes, well, they should complement each other approximately friend, and compete already in foreign markets to compete. tell that's good. we have how many such holdings and how they compete, because there is a feeling that vatsevich andreev makes his products, he has occupied his niche, and no one else is looking there. we have three holdings in our concern, one is pulp and paper - this belarusian wallpaper unites three productions. e, egotsevich is the youngest recently created. holding - this is a spanish holding , which brings together 10 factories. there

is indeed a development strategy prepared of the holding complex for 5 years and after a certain period, it is planned to achieve certain goals, that is, it is planned to create centers of competence for marketingus life for supply for supply already created , what you say is already functioning, it is already actually beginning to be implemented. i can explain. they are absolutely right. we have a law in the legislation does not spell out the word kla. master and therefore what he is different he is different. basically, it's economically different. well, it looks like it. yes, and in the class there is a vertical lined up in the holding, but you have vertical a in the cluster horizontally. well, that's not the point with us. uh, legally we can't say it's a cluster. we can theoretically call it a cluster, but practically we call it a holding, associations, there, and so on. that is a little different specific. let's call now. right

here, the theorists are offering here not only what is renamed here, in theory, correctly aleksandrovich said that everyone should do their own thing correctly, when, for example, uh forestries, how silver consumers in the face of girlish enterprises, science wants together with scientists in terms of training personnel. uh, there's a question of strategy somewhere. here it works. the question is, what does all this combine today? well, maybe in our practice it is impossible, because every main task of the same forestries today is guarding to protect the reproducer of the garden. i will give two questions again from people who are ignorant of the woodworking industry. but, and the question is exclusively in the forehead to you first, when we have normal packaging and a la tetrapack. well, explain. i came for milk, and i have the first package. i'm used to white. let's start with the base that we are accustomed to a certain dacha. yes, it’s clear that you can

drink the same milk and from a different package, but we are used to a certain level. here in a birch, they say they let the unfortunate people let them in and the second question. we are all accustomed to, or rather, we have joined the global trade market and in the global trade market we have been shown a certain example of how it is possible to trade in furniture. this is ikea we made for ik we can whether we in belarus make a belarusian june? that's who can explain to me alexandrovich, maybe she will appear in belarus, she may appear and she appears, but here the most important thing, the most. the main thing is that she sold ikea to the whole world, that is, she ordered hundreds of thousands of identical products, which, due to their low price, but due to production volumes, were profitable for the manufacturer. when we consider, only our belarusian market. it is quite small, capacious, but small, so we have to look. e partners all over the world, we have a growing volume of production and

export of furniture. that is, if we take the content separately in the summer, we are going above the level of last year. although last year was almost a record, we had to completely restructure and leave our european colleagues, who, unfortunately, after certain events, stopped working with us and redirected to the russian market on kazakhstan but uzbekistan, we find a consumer there, by the way. another addition to furniture furniture is the same as clothing. she is different sometimes branded, sometimes. there are mass-markets, there are no fashionable ones. yes, that's right, that's why we produce absolutely all types of furniture. ivatsevich, he occupied a certain niche pinzdrev. this is melodic furniture. this is luxury furniture made from expensive materials. that is, here we find attempts to find compromises everywhere, with regard to the packaging of the vodka, which we are used to. it was already by the standards of the then luxury clothes that we will never wear again. see, with regard to packaging, a type tetrapack. uh, it was, uh, the supplier. who supplied

republic of belarus birch packaging? unfortunately, 2 years ago, the company already ceased to exist and it no longer exists. people ask a question. you see, the release of packaging at a good factory will end in the same way as the release of this practice. of course it's a hateful comment. well, today our good one produces cardboard, which will be the basis of the tetrapack, and now we are working in two directions. first, we attract the country of the investor, because, unfortunately, we do not yet have the competence and no. e those possibly protected. as far as i know, quite right, yes, rights reserved, there are only five or six companies in the world that know the secrets that make this trail park possible, so we are currently working on attracting indians and chinese . we are ready to provide raw materials. and you make packaging, or the second direction is alternative. here it goes separately, or the second. this is with the tetrapack company in russia, which supplied, completely provided the belarusian market.

e. e, she had a period of 2 months when her swedish the main shareholders stopped the full supply of interaction cut all contracts, but today they have earned and are ready to buy cardboard from us in exchange for to for a guarantee that they will fully provide the belarusian market. we are now working in this direction, either creating indians together with the chinese, or signing some agreements with the russian federation and providing ourselves with tetraps. and here is also a big gift on the eve of november 7 in the country. eh, our production has been opened. yes bnbc has officially opened, and i'll ask our directors now to give a little comment. colleagues worked hard and clarified. what kind of packaging for the manufactured space product is used there at the enterprise. our packaging is the so-called three- layer paper bag with a polyethylene liner, for which it is necessary, and mixed

products are for export. let's just say that this is an export type of product, so it must reach the client in sugar content, so we lose a very large package, thank god for belarus such packaging is made in mogilev. so we are very pleased. we have been working with this supplier for a whole year and no complaints. we didn't have any packaging. well, here, it turns out, everything is absolutely. we can produce it ourselves and enable our enterprises to earn more. see this question. we are very concerned about the environment. and how many times have we already had such a conversation that it's time to transfer all the paper bags that flew onto paper cups. we are ready for this. here you are ready once and for all. tomorrow everyone has become ecological. uh, well, we're from plastic straws have not yet been abandoned, at least by 70 percent. we are ready to replace plastic packaging, but, probably, in my

opinion. not ready to consume, firstly, it will be more expensive on paper. as much as we would like paper is still a reusable option, but still costing 2:00 2 1/2 times more than polyethylene in principle we are ready. as for the bag, this is really how it happened, why we were able to make these products, we built a plant in svetlogorsk that produces cellulose from cellulose, as we heard, we actually recycle waste, that is , its wood, the most consumer, the highest quality wood is used, in the manufacture of furniture in the production of some expensive materials, and everything else is recycled for the purpose of healing is made paper is made from paper bag. and this made it possible to close the market locally, including in fact. uh, when the president brought up the topic of investing money in wood processing. well, it's been over 15 years now. and here which one do you think? well, how have we progressed over

these 15 years in terms of production. and in terms of sales ready to sell. see. i'll just give you a few numbers . e for understanding. if earlier we were in the concern, we exported lesbos. well, our main trees, felling and whole-paper enterprise exported from 200 to 300 million us dollars, then last year a billion, that is, we tripled the second import substitution, if earlier we imported hundreds of millions of dollars of pulp and paper products, woodworking in the same furniture today. we have import substitution. here is our program, which is already 20 years old. it is constantly updated, developed, approved, and next year we will approve it literally in a week. hundreds of millions of dollars are dedicated there for deliveries, to be exact, about 300-400 million us dollars, that is, this is the effect of the program that we have carried out, but what niche we have not yet closed. maybe your concern

is some other enterprise. enough. well, in your time about the svetlogorsk central control commission. yes, he was long-suffering, but it seems like now, but no one asks questions and there is no dispute about what is needed. this is an enterprise, i obviously see it, as well as its necessity and the effect that we have received. eh, on the same one that we are now deciding. you also asked questions here. what new investment projects. we will implement already at the stage. such is the, uh, design survey and already construction start of construction work on the processing of cellulose. let's build a new paper to make a valuable machine that will allow further processing of this pulp, to have an added value in finished products and leave it in the republic of belarus, that is, we are moving on and these new production facilities will be in the country in the same ivatsevichi ref, now a new investment project is being implemented to increase the processing of boards in lamination. that is, in fact, at almost every enterprise there are projects that, well, will move

us somewhere further andrey anatolyevich as for development. well that's uh for everything these enterprises worked, of course, they need raw materials. this is what we will do along the line, what will you do along the line of the ministry for the preservation of our main wealth, i will explain the lower back, really a lot lately . we, uh, hear that it is being cut down, that forests are dying, there we have a bark beetle for some year, a hurricane for some year, that is, uh, obviously many people say. you remember how it used to be green around minsk, beautiful, everywhere you look, everywhere, there is a forest, now there is construction everywhere, it seems that it is indeed at some point we may encounter. with a deficit of this forest. what are you doing? how are you doing? uh, what measures are you taking indirectly on this topic today, just the same, uh, those natural disasters that

happen to wood - in any case, we go and eliminate the consequences of these charms. yes , in particular, this year's may brull was especially large, about 10,000 hectares of only solid sanitary fish. everything has been removed. everything has been cleaned up. everything has been put into production under the brand of a hurricane, a bark beetle, or something else, maybe nothing. forestry specialists are very much in control, who can follow this under the theme of a brand. uh, it can't be, as far as, uh, the topics needed are exactly what we said today, whatever the volumes of production, or volumes of processing. they have always converged directly with harvesting. today, this is the topic of logging. why it was sharp just the same. what was said, the post-war forest today, the age of ripeness of the forest is just 80 years. that is, we are filming today in

forest. if it’s possible, so to speak, the harvest, yes, that is, if it is harvested on the field once a year, we have 80 years, yes, that’s why the topic here is these, mu- perhaps some kind of massive felling. believe me, ours must then be seriously overloaded. eh, the enterprises are not overloaded in the usual systematic planned work. again, touching on the windbreak system, if we all went to mogilev, but to carry out the elimination of the consequences of breaks, then somewhere in healthy plantations in planned activities. we did not go to the week of the forest, which takes place annually. she gives the result, of course, is the result. yes, as far as reproduction is concerned, the annual silvicultural fund is about thirty-five thousand hectares. this is annually what sits down directly by us people, and moreover, taking into account the necessary volumes of reproduction in the conditions of some kind of cataclysms, this windbreak is also a bug. here, these volumes will only grow. people will help you. of course,

i won't say everything. but here sergei, e, is indignant at the fact that there is a sea in the forests of deadwood, and even write him out for firewood to tidy up in the forest in the rural enterprising resident has a whole problem. here belarusian citizens are law-abiding and, probably, this question. well, anyway. yes, here it is necessary in detail, if specifically for the respected sergei, then it is necessary to specifically understand. what was the immediate moment and why such a controversial issue turned out to be another question, that there are different types of fish, that is, there are fellings for the main use. there are cuttings for intermediate use. there are tubes. let 's just say something else, where are we just this wood, which is more for fuel purposes and therefore, the question here is what was the reason why it lies here, it is necessary to sort it out in detail, in principle, it is safe, and a person just goes into the forest and saws it off. this and these questions. too. here.

actually. why did we do today that parts of the self- harvesting of firewood are still the population, maybe they cut down the christmas tree for the new year. and as for commercial timber, today it is the outcome that directly harvests, because he has all the skills. for this, in terms of labor protection, so that there are no questions connected, in short. but please tell me, uh, your enterprises are the oldest in our country. strictly speaking, yes, the same age as the revolution even more. so we, in fact, all grew up on the fact that i always had such a notebook in my hand and from the first to the eleventh grade. ah, but now your products are known in belarus or somewhere else. well, what markets did you manage to conquer and how competitive are these products abroad. you rightly noticed in order to get to know us more, uh the new product of our cardboard also helps us, as i told you, before the imposition of sanctions, we

sent cardboard to 35 countries. this is south america north africa asia europe cis countries now, unfortunately, after the imposition of sanctions, we have reoriented to russia to the countries of central asia, therefore, our product. we represent very broadly. well, in connection with the sanctions, it has become more difficult for you to work, or else. well, they adjusted what to say that it was very simple . of course not, but there were problems with supplies for a while, huh? calcium sizing supply reagents that were supplied to us from europe, well, but we quickly reoriented to friendly countries, in particular to russia, i will not give out secrets to others. and now the raw material is supplying us with questions of silence. and here you have this sanctions pitching, somehow touched your enterprise. no, well, of course, touched upon, it cannot be said that we somehow

remained on the sidelines. well, we must take into account that our enterprise is located 50 km from the polish border. naturally, taking into account this geographical specificity, the entire expanse was built to the west, since it was also a more marginal market. the sanctions have already been in effect for about 5.5 months. but you need to understand that we used to supply approximately. percent, probably, 85 of its entire production of the countries of western europe, let's say so. today we have almost all of this volume, but maybe 75 percent have completely reoriented to the eastern and southeastern direction in just 5 months. yes, there were certain problems, certain turbulence. some productions. we have, let's say, partly reduced the volume of production. but there is a production three times by 300% increased the volume of production of the same laminate. before the beginning of this entire decree on

e, the construction of our factories, belarus did not produce laminate at all from the word at all. well, it was easier to buy, of course. today only bridges. vdreev produces it in such quantity that belarus consumes everything in a year. therefore, today we have significantly increased these huge volumes and redirected them to those markets where this one is? demanded, where we do not create obstacles and so on, so this is the east. this central asia is the same russia well, russia to a lesser extent, because we were talking about the fact that there is a problem of downloading something. it is the same for everyone, and it will be solved more at the world state levels. still, you will agree that if we have a ton of goods, well, for example, 200-250 dollars, and it’s one thing to get it 500 km away. europe is another matter for 7.000. china , of course, this is a problem, but believe me, it will be solved at the state level, and we will continue to deal less and less with this problem

to come back somewhere nearby and political decisions, as always, i literally briefly talked today about the revolution of the revolutionary decisions that were once made in our area of ​​\u200b\u200bthe processing tree so, uh, it's still obvious. they were accepted correctly, but only progressively systematic. and such a creative development, well, it allowed us, probably, not to break firewood and go through this path , not to say that without a hitch, but as effective and smoothly as possible, but let me again congratulate everyone on the hundredth anniversary october revolution, although alyona does not believe, but this day gave us a lot, including in woodworking.

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