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andrey sych, political observer, director of the center for social research in science and technology, would like to talk today about events as global trends in the geopolitical situation in the world that affects our lives. hello, on the air, the program, say, do not be silent in the studio, victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina are visiting.

we have andrey sivich today. good afternoon. hello hello. andrey is glad to see you again in our studio in turbulent times. we live, respectively, and alarming news is coming in more and more often. ukraine continues to arrange provocations on the border with belarus literally. the other day , gomel border guards intercepted a ukrainian drone, it was established that the quadrocopter was used by ukrainian paramilitary units on the border with the republic, belarus and there was another case at the glushkovich checkpoint a ukrainian btr-80 with a group of armed men in uniform was recorded moving towards the border with belarus. well, after the armored transporter turned around and left, and these are just a couple of cases. e of the many, that is, ukraine will not calm down until it achieves an armed clash with belarus, but here is the problem. in my opinion, it has been voiced more than once by official reports. with them belarusians that there are no ukrainian border guards on the line of contact, e, colleagues of our border guards are somewhere else

, e, we have to work with volunteers from representatives of those same nationalist battalions. for me it's been a while. uh, tiktok has become a kind of cross-section of political events in particular and it is very interesting to follow the events in ukraine, and there really are a lot of videos of these people who are on the belarusian border, who publish videos about how they supposedly accidentally got lost along the belarusian border pillars and so on are put forward, we understand that if there is a command to provocation on certain then, in fact saying they will be committed the question is, uh, how do we respond to these provocations. in my opinion today. this is the sustained position of belarus, it is the most productive. but because you can get involved in this war within an hour, but getting out of it will already be a process of

several years. i think the statement of our president that just try to poke your head will not seem enough. eh, this is also an important point. uh, now, they talk a lot about the american hymars, uh, they look belarusian polonaises are not inferior to them in terms of characteristics. and here the question is that this one of ours , uh, just try to poke around. this is not even about the fact that it will be necessary to cross the border. it is possible, after all, to inflict crushing blows at fairly serious distances. and i think that, by and large, the decisiveness of alexander lukashenko, including, which was demonstrated in 1920, demonstrates that if there are any provocations, then there will still be no response. conditional hours of negotiations and so on about how we should act in this situation, a blow to belarus

will immediately be an instant mirror response on the territory of the aggressor. the headquarters of the chikhanovskaya or madame pilipchuk, uh, continues its activities to the best of its ability, and instead of hammering, they recently called for bombing. eh what was that? andrew is an attempt. at least get some attention. in fact, this , among other things, should be taken seriously, because at the moment, uh, these people are used by our western partners as such legitimization of their actions against belarus and when, after all, if they more accurately decide to enter the territory of our country. after all, it will be the consent of these individuals, who at some point will be identified as the legitimate leaders of the country. and this will be given out, at least in the public sphere, no aggression against the territory of belarus as some kind of liberation operation, this must be taken absolutely seriously and i

think that these people should return to belarus , including according to the traditions that our israeli colleagues, returning e their criminals political e, criminal e, by any means. well, you say you must definitely return, and who will return them? e our bodies that deal with such issues. we returned to our truckers from ukraine and will return them all. zelensky called the conditions for negotiations with putin, let's listen to another real thing washing. well, for those who don’t understand, let’s translate ukrainian, which he demands the restoration of the territorial integrity of ukraine with the return of the territories annexed to the russian federation, respect for the un who would say compensation for all

losses, punishment of every war criminal , guarantee that this will never happen again, but before zelensky himself signed a decree, according to which it is forbidden to conduct any negotiations with russia. well, we see that for the past week there has been news that their, uh, western partners in the white house are forced to at least publicly express a desire for dialogue, at least. because there is a very big fatigue from the processes in ukraine, and it is becoming more and more difficult to force european partners to provide assistance to ukraine, including for ordinary people, it is necessary to demonstrate. ah, for the europeans. i mean, uh, the desire to conclude peace agreements and to the fact that in the near future it will all end, but in fact there are no such plans in ukraine, well, i don’t know, i don’t agree about that it gets harder every uh, week or those, or we

see that someone comes again. he directly left peng to his nipples buried oscar there until the last ukrainian comes first. but that is not, he is a new tiredness a new aid package. um, in my opinion, hungary refused. uh, they froze in italy. uh, in my opinion, sweden banned the sale of ammunition for some installations in germany. i won't tell now. there is fatigue, there is even, probably, a certain fear, and the european political leaders, who daily see actions protest under their windows and in particular today's victories in many states of the republicans who play in this field in such an anti-war. uh, this also demonstrates that same fatigue, we understand that no matter who wins, in the end it will take. uh, the us congress will still support ukraine from

the territory. for america, the question is how it will happen if the republicans win. i think that publicly this will all be expressed as a coercion to peace and so on, but underground conditionally in gray will be supplied armament, in your opinion, at this stage of this conflict, who is bidding with whom now? well, we understand that there is a conflict between the collective west and the russian federation in from china uh-huh on the territory of ukraine yes, on the territory of ukraine, and we saw, in particular, that the republicans said that if they take the congress , an inter-state will be formed. uh, the party group on pressure on china therefore, in general, it doesn’t matter to us. whoever wins uh, the same rhetoric will be promoted against us. well i guess that fatigue she may not be advertised, so as not to excite her electorate, but

nevertheless the military-industrial complex. uh, he will try to sell his leftovers, surpluses and products are still surpluses. in my opinion. already no longer appeared. including the news that in the united states there is a big problem of building new factories of military-industrial complexes and recruiting new employees, because they are not able to do so at the moment. fulfill orders from the territory of the european union that gave the most of their weapons on the territory of ukraine and now it is necessary to replenish. we must understand that the us is on a war footing. and it will be very difficult to get off this rail, because these are new jobs, new investments in the current situation, when everything is on the verge of a major economic crisis, and our american partners once again, as in the forties of the last century, are implementing that policy , which helps them, uh, export their inflation, that is, they have already reset the balance. he doesn't

need you anymore. ukraine is at the current stage. well where to sell weapons. this is what scares me, that they profit from the fact that they supply, produce weapons from this, then supply them to ukraine , and this can continue indefinitely in order to profit and grow rich further. that's exactly how. uh, you know, it’s hard to predict here, because there are different events, including things that can happen, for example, what the head of state was talking about that, uh, the ukrainian security forces understand perfectly well what is happening and it may well be brewing an internal dissatisfaction with what is happening and the same military will take power into their own hands and stop going to the slaughter, as i do not want to compare at our border. there is one more indefatigable neighbor. this is poland's polish defense minister. mario already announced that poland is investing in the expansion of military infrastructure in the east, facilities for the us army. well, the most

acute question. at the moment, will they dare or they will move to our territories. eh, it's hard to predict. they would have moved long ago if not for the russian nuclear umbrella over the territory of belarus uh, so i doubt that it will still come to such a nuclear confrontation, because everyone understands that it is unlikely that it will be possible to sit overseas and fly there, besides nuclear, after all, there can be anything else. polonaise was mentioned, for example, we have them, we may need to understand how critically hmm those events will develop with the use of conventional weapons conditionally, which are now being fought on the territory of ukraine uh, the question is how they will u act on the territory of ukraine uh, movement to the territory belarus radically changes the situation. this is already a direct clash with the russian federation in particular, because they are located on the territory of belarus. this

is ours. uh, the general grouping of troops. already even a thought will not arise. uh, how they will react, for example, in the kremlin, if we enter the territory of belarus, they have already reacted. here are the russian military, who are ready to defend belarus back in one of the interviews. you spoke about security. let's hear what you said, i feel completely safe. i am i live in minsk some prerequisites for reverse emotions and feelings at the moment in belarus as a whole no now your feelings have changed. no , i feel safe. i freely walk the streets of my beloved country. uh, i don't think about the fact that at 8:00 p.m. the lights will be turned off, my phone will be taken away at night, uh, and i am confident in the armed forces of my country, including being a conscript, uh, doing military service mussels from the inside, like organized the training of

special operations forces. i am confident in the armed forces and in our e russian partners who will come to our aid, so i feel safe. and you are liable for military service you have already called. i came to the military office. in rechitsa, we were gathered for one day. we had a conversation and formed groups. oh, and let them go home. well, that is, you are not filled with exaggeration. here is the escalating setting. that there are tanks around the borders, there is a moving map that shows how nato is active, for example, i was impressed in a month. how many flights were in my opinion. we are absolutely we react correctly, including demonstrating certain messages to our society so that this security is maintained, because panic is much worse than an invasion can even be, because people begin to leave the country in case of

panic. uh, the mental state of the emotional state of congestion. this is much more difficult, perhaps, than even the beginning of hostilities, because hostilities. eh, people can get used to it. see how, for example, ukraine is now reacting to shell explosions. this how ordinary is perceived, but the feeling of uncertainty is much worse than the process itself. we have a common grouping of troops located on the territory of the republic of belarus, and weapons are being modernized. it has already been announced that, if necessary, aircraft will be modernized in order to be able to carry nuclear charges. we have a constant modernization of the military-industrial complex. we are among the top suppliers of world weapons. this suggests that their weapons are of sufficient quality is in a state, we are able to respond adequately to the situation. you look at the drones that were demonstrated to the head of state at the training ground. these are not

some piece samples, these are serial things. that is, we understand how the war is being waged, and we are ready for it under control, you want to say, but at the recruiting station you were registered. were you alone or were there other people? of course not, there were a lot of people there. and how they react too, just like you are calm , the discussion was only about what, well, why is it necessary was to collect. we would have arrived conditionally one by one, checked in faster and would have gone to work, that is, everyone lives in this. it was interesting for me to find out the unconditional conversations inside about the fact that we will now all be sent to the front. there was no such injection there, and in my opinion, this is also the merit of the heads of state and the media, who correctly convey information to society. well, by the way, about what information appears here you talked with us is located, a joint grouping, respectively, the russian military is present and

stuffing has already repeatedly appeared, and allegedly the atrocities of russian military personnel. that is, they are again trying to sow panic, escalate the situation, that is, they are throwing deliberately false information related specifically to russian military personnel in order to, well, how to provoke people's anger. eh, i understand you here andrey is a hero with an absolute score. just as we reacted in the twentieth year to go to the place to demonstrate that it is on is actually not true. eh? in my opinion, they worked very well when a russian group of partly our armed forces came in. for example, i have relatives, they still live in the gomel region and part of the trains went through this territory and people really had concerns, because, well, this is not an ordinary picture to see the echelon of armored vehicles at the station and it was very important to talk about the fact that this is not a cause for concern, but, on the contrary, an opportunity to feel safe, which is our group strengthened and we have the opportunity to respond in my

opinion, the current geopolitical crisis that is spreading around the world will lead to an increase in the threat of terrorist activity in all countries, therefore, our citizens should perceive the belarusian law enforcement officers armed in the street as security, they are as some kind of reason for alarm you took part in the dialogue platform. in the framework of the republican project 17 facets of unity and wrote on their page in social networks that you have a national idea, help us formulate it. you andrey are not the first guest to whom we made such a request . yes, look good. uh, during this conversation. i voiced my thoughts that the national idea of ​​belarus is the way of israel by and large. we

are in the center of europe and there will always be a possibility of conflict on our territory. well, it happened historically in much the same way as in israel now on an ongoing basis there is a conflict. in this regard, it is important. in my opinion, including using our work. eh, well, not even the developments that have developed such a national idea, eh. representatives of israel forming a cult of education creating a cult education in our children, we get the opportunity in this way and the cult of attitude towards parents, when your child understands that he has received a good education. he got a good job, he is able to provide for himself and his parents. this in particular, having highly intelligent people allows to ensure the security of the state, because the armament, which today is necessary so that there would not even be thoughts, but

encroachments on the territory of this country. it is, uh, highly intelligent, first in production. second, in operation. these are the thoughts. it's good, that is, even the national idea is the way of israel yes, the cult of education is the cult of security. i also think that they have a cult of e-militarization of some kind of security, a military man with a machine gun should be perceived in belarus as nothing dangerous. and how is security, although i can not disagree with you. the israelis do nothing bad for their state, therefore, learn from their experience. i recently made a decision for myself. this is useful stuff. let's take a break for a while, i remind you, we have a telegram channel, say, be quiet. subscribe give questions and suggest guests we are in touch.

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on the air say again, do not be silent. and today, political scientist andrey sych is our guest at the first firewood chopping championship, which was sold like a fan. yes, in all the media, the president spoke about european leaders, let's remind our viewers to discuss his statements. in germany, all of europe is there, there are no leaders now. if they were to understand, they can't even put out, please, with all the ice, the europeans don't want this war. they understand that today you are trying to set fire to ukraine here, belarus will flare up. tomorrow all of europe world war, where not in america and here is a nuclear weapon, because a man flew there

, nuclear weapons will not be used conventional weapons to fight, where we will fight. we'll be in this cauldron here. ukraine is already blazing getting richer. no, such a country as ukraine was, soviet times invested so much land, and what nature everything was turned into. depth, what again? then now to save this kachinsky dude of morovets, we still have the power to sweep away the people. they are ready to start a war, they unleashed a war, then everything will be war. everything sleeps europeans. it is necessary to come to my senses and stop the war, but i could not give them. well, uh, for example, i am personally surprised that both germany and france very quickly lost their independence, in your opinion. andrey why it happened so quickly, look, firstly, i have repeatedly thought about

how great it would be. read memoirs if alexander grigorievich writes them after the end of his political career. after all, he is all of them. really knows uh, global grand experience political activity, those politicians who are in the european union today, they are really very rarely able to make independent decisions. it’s blind because they are not state leaders in our understanding of the issue, they are not responsible for most of their decisions in our e state, for example, everyone associates with alexander lukashenko in russia this is vladimir putin uh, they have it, well, really temporary people, in my opinion, alexander grigoryevich also spoke about this. here, uh, we saw one such act that can be described as an attempt at independence, and then, this is already a forced reaction of scholz by a visit to

china after the gas pipeline was blown up for you, you are afraid to say who did it, your country is put on the threshold for industrialization , disgruntled burghers walk your streets. you are on the verge of losing your position in disgrace to leave in disgrace with the global e, you decide to go to china to kneel and ask for help, we saw that i went with him, in my opinion, about 12 heads of the largest technological and industrial corporations went to china for what they went there. after all, we understand that germany, deprived of gases, is actually bled white . we see the reaction. uh, here is an ally of this axis paris berlin when they say in paris that the united states took advantage of the situation, it sells liquefied gas, uh, to a european industrial enterprise four times more expensive. than his scholz, he is forced to go to

show independence, given that for 3 years no one traveled to china, did not communicate in any way lithuanians. during this time we have succeeded. e even cross out of the lists of customs e, china, and then e for a long time e transfer the responsibility of the president to the head of the foreign policy department, who ultimately decided to host the embassy, ​​taiwan and so schollz is forced to show this independence and disobedience to the west to go to china and outside the public sphere. in my opinion, there was a conversation about the transportation of russian gas, which is currently sold at a discount in china to germany, including, because a why was this face-to-face meeting necessary? china at present. e, banned the sale of e, export gas to asia and europe in order to save. use your supplies and not get into a

difficult situation, so this was a visit of the desperate, which i think will be followed by absolutely concrete ones. uh, action by the white house, because in my opinion. the period of concern has already ended at the moment when they began to blow up the nord stream and the crimean bridge, but nevertheless, many people paid attention to the fact that this the traditional handshake between the middle and the elves did not happen. well, that is, they nodded to each other, dispersed, no need to say that this is a coronavirus and hugs are forbidden and have already announced that this is a dependent position and we sit pin perfectly understands who came to ask whom. uh, help somehow you talk about leaving in disgrace. i always smile a little with my mustache, because they have not been interested in reputational losses for a long time. see. i will remember the tracks. yes

, i remember johnson helped pension after they will stay at the post, there a short time allows them to merrily play pranks and not pay attention to who is wandering there next under the walls, uh, some kind of parliaments and harmlessly exist. that is, is it really important for them these reputational losses that you say, i myself do not agree, look, the same hmm boris today has created a special structure to support his personality in order to advance in political elections for the next seasons. uh, it's important internally for them so you assert internal what is important to him? it seems to me that it is important for him to be a clown and it seems that he, in principle, is someone's memorian doll. they are simply puppeted and specially made such a bright figure memorable. after all, no one will deny that he is a memorable figure no matter the positive

qualities or the negative. it is simply needed by someone who really controls the situation is that it is clear that these individuals, as we have already discussed, do not make special decisions. uh, western government model formed in such a way that, by and large , it controls the very deep state. it doesn't matter who will become today, but at the head of some party in the parliament and so on are those socio-political structures that exist and have been formed for centuries. uh, in western countries, they are able to build their political, uh, all kinds of activities without major turbulences, while maintaining the general outline of geopolitical strategy. me when i talk about what's important to him. i mean a specific person. do you think not depressed friends. and why do you watch how the poor fellow, during covid restrictions, drank there, this one danced. that's all. well, you

have to let it go somehow. this is the stress of pressure that happens to you, and in any case, they somehow try to influence this situation, it is important for them to be. this includes, uh, to a certain extent, such an adrenaline addiction. that is , after all, you claim that for them your reputation is yes, because they all do not want to leave, or at least leave for more or less positive note and you said there would be a reaction. the united states promptly to visit the desperation of scholz in china what will this reaction be to punish the breed? will they be beaten already? well, let's be frank, the european union is on the verge of bloc transformation. we see that germany was deprived of the status of a russian gas hub. uh, this status is currently being transferred to poland by the constructed gas pipelines. uh, the hippool was tested at full power. uh, today poland is ready to accept liquefied gas from norway from the usa

, and this is what they are doing. this is the position. actually speaking gas hub. it, including germany, as poland now gives certain political leverage, because you distribute these blessings, let's say, an opportunity. e heat some of their housing there and sell it to a gas-industrial enterprise, and an interesting moment develops in a relationship. regarding gas with turkey and russia, because we see that russia, instead of germany, since you do not want to cooperate with us or are unable to make an independent decision on this cooperation, uh, is moving its gas hub to turkey uh, turkey is clear to us. uh, at least, because the pipeline was preserved there, they also blew it up, but including uh, they will strengthen uh, precisely the influence of turkey in the region. uh, i think that, to a certain extent, turkey is still

offended by, uh, the expectation of, let's say, membership in the european union is an understanding of how western partners work. uh, and maybe even turkey and russia have a lot more in common than the united states. well, maybe let america continue to react harshly and smack, which in the end will ultimately push this into the arms of russia, in general, this possibility of embracing anyone, because, well, the explosion of gas pipelines is just pushing germany into the arms of china . mm, an independent europe with its decision-making centers is important for us. but for us, russia, which has not been weakened by many years of war, is also important, you will agree, and this is when it’s a difficult moment to fight here, and here in my opinion. uh, time plays

against all sides of the conflict because everyone is exhausted. uh, the only thing we see is that america is exporting its exhaustion to the eu in the european union understands this very well, therefore they are trying to respond to this situation with creaking limbs. is there enough strength, there is a dark horse flying in the european union who will say enough is enough and let's pursue our own independent policy. here is a difficult question. in my opinion. uh, in any case, it may arise. if it does not arise, then we are in for even more problems, because there are very big hmm sympathies for the ultra-right parties and this is the italian party that came to power. but we are with her a lot more problems. i think you can jump to the international agenda all the time. but i would still like to hear your forecast from our closest neighbors. that's how russia is acting now, in my opinion. russia is behaving rather reservedly

, the question is whether it will find an opportunity to explain the need for its actions to other partners in international sco projects, and so on, while we see that there is a certain reaction and some positive movements. there are still some in this direction, because the number applications, and in the sco is constantly growing. find partners in order to help you armament, find partners who are tired of the current world order, in which the united states can freely dictate any conditions for absolutely everything, for example, the statement hmm by the leaders of iran his remarque in uh the words that iran needs to be liberated and he stated that iran freed itself from american oppression during the islamic revolution and this is the position of today . in my mind spreads in the east

with shevets political scientist and also great hopes, he places an eraser on iran. kyrgyzstan is going to adopt a new law on the media, it is supposed to introduce legal regulation of the internet. well, acquaintances. let us all have a narrative. who distributes information on the internet, including a blogger, is given the status of a media until january 1, 23. mass media must go through re-registration and liquidate those who did not pass. well, in your opinion, this is a signal of why there is a difficult moment regarding kyrgyzstan. in my opinion, uh, they are trying to put the country before a choice. eh? put react more harshly towards russia we see that for some reason the world cards are now not available in most banks in kyrgyzstan. uh, but this is an attempt. hmm, to reform the media. and in particular. uh, there was news that just

a few days ago a reform would be planned. and in particular, an ngo that operates on the territory of kyrgyzstan is such a belarusian way to get rid of pressure and the opportunity to get the opportunity to make independent decisions, we see that this is the situation with the reform media like her influenced the situation. the threats have already begun. uh, in relation to the current head of state. they began to hint to him that in the same way, the head of the state, which was overthrown in 2010, tried to communicate with the independent press. uh, that is, hints go absolutely opaque through partners, let's say. western after they said they were going to reform the media, uh, i think three or four days later, a representative of the united states flew into the country to save the infrastructure in which they invested in for decades, because the network of, e,

western ngos on the territory of kyrgyzstan is simply colossal in one multi-storey building, there are 10 different ngos that perform different functions and the problem lies in the fact that these von soros educational programs that operate on the territory after all, in kyrgyzstan, he conducts it for the most passionate youth, who subsequently ends up somewhere in the governing bodies, bodies of power, decision-making, and so on, and it is difficult to get rid of this system when you in the next office. there are people who sympathize with these structures in this regard, of course. alexander lukashenko's decision a chat with a standing soros who brought money. well, we will fine and soberly assess the situation for the young state. this money, well, the comrades really needed it, he said goodbye, but his business lives on. that is, today. it can be

said that it is very difficult to recognize organizations in some communities and so on, and from the fly from its nest you understand the activities that they are still difficult to assess, the state of affairs that is in belarus with western ngos , at least was until the twentieth year and with what is happening in kyrgyzstan. it’s just, well, andrey. and please tell me, these are the claims, they territorial or general sense what kind of subjugation of kyrgyzstan from western partners create points of tension around russia divert attention so that decision -making centers in the russian federation, among other things , turn their eyes to other situations, uh, to in my opinion, for the same reason, uh, karabakh is also on fire, that some kind of spontaneous rallies are already happening in kyrgyzstan. uh, they are not numerous, yet not numerous plus

there are stuffing that supposedly the president. uh, kyrgyzstan has some kind of corruption schemes there, muddying up with some kind of criminal worlds. we are waiting for the next color revolutions my colleagues in kyrgyzstan say that the situation is not revolutionary, but in my opinion. it's quite complicated, that's all. depends on what decision will be made by the leadership of kyrgyzstan if we if we see anti-russian territory in the near future, then most likely everything will be stable in kyrgyzstan. at least our western partners. well, they will not interfere in the process. if not, and then they will try to swing, because including not so long ago. uh, as a reaction to this reform. uh, a meeting of independent journalists, about 600 people, gathered and discussed such words familiar to us as solidarity, mutual assistance. uh, the introduction of confrontation with this influence on freedom

of speech, therefore, in any case, there will be a situation swaying will find trying to form some kind of informational reasons regarding the head of state in order to compromise him. this has been going on for about three months, he was reminded of the new cars in the cortege of the mine, which they nationalized, that allegedly gold was stolen from there directly. that is, such stories will be promoted as much as possible and put the president in a disadvantageous situation. in particular. here is the story, with whom the piabat e reservoir, who so actively tried to promote. and this really for kyrgyzstan for the whole territory, it is very difficult. the issue is fresh water with the ability to water the land to receive fresh water. eh, a very difficult moment. and i think that this topic will continue to dance for a long time with examples around with these accession to the eu and the same turkey with which

they have been playing here for so many years and the unsuccessful experience of the baltic countries and eastern european countries. why every time the same rake is stepped on , the situation is actually difficult, including because our western partners do not stop implementation of its methodical policy in this region. uh, after the completion of the shanghai cooperation organization itself, literally after, probably, half a month, kazakhstan itself passed and the european union central asia well, more precisely, they are not dozing, and the fact that we see that kyrgyzstan is adopting the experience of belarus this suggests that we have positive experience for sure. we talked about this even after the twentieth year, that belarus, throughout its sovereign history, has repeatedly defeated these rudiments of colored revolutions, including the 20th year in this

regard, has become some kind of peak history, and we are currently capable in particular. e export your e, experience in the fight against color revolutions. and now i'm going to take a long break. after a short pause, we will return to this studio. subscribe to our telegram channel. say don't be silent. leave your comments. offer us guests look for all our releases on the youtube channel, belarus is one. on the air say again, don't be silent, and a political scientist is visiting us. andrey sych andrey, well, more than once. we have here in in the course of the conversation, a word was heard, stuffing and fakes, including fakes have long and tightly entered our information field. uh, and how dangerous they are, you argued in the studio uh, tv channel belarus 4, gomel uh, let's see a small fragment of fake news, false newsworthy events - today this is part of

the manipulation, public opinion is part of the hybrid confrontation between the state, because uh, there is still a very large a set in order to, let's say fruitfully, successfully carry out a coup d'état using modern technology is important to understand, including for our guys, that they are not doing this, let's say, some ordinary people. eh, there are and are formed in every state, especially in western countries it is developed, because, well, this is their technology to a greater extent, specific military units are centers of information and psychological influence, which just create, uh, these false pretexts in the central you say, but what i noticed among the audience sitting in the studio was a vote. these are young people and 60% of they believe that fakes are a harmless spoon, you managed to convince them, look. yes, it's fun for me too, in fact, at first, well, this is such a

teenage protest. well, let's be frank, that we are smarter, we know how she really is, this is the first that this one came this uh, you're being smart, and secondly, uh, that's all right. mm, the problem is not that they do not understand, for example, how it happens with exactly before meeting these guys and the audience at the student examples are not the format of a television recording of a program, because in particular they say that it does not affect in any way fakes and so on until you form them. some kind of fake will not be distributed to their audiences, they will not be bullied for it, and so on, and then suddenly there is a clarification that yes, it turns out that this fake affects the situation, so it all depends on how you approach the delivery of information. this is not the format to communicate with these guys, but the problem is

what e here are the technologies for spreading fakes and creating fakes. in particular. type of fakes are already filming serials based on diffuses. we saw how zelensky’s e was already digitized specifically so that before now you can shoot him for another 3 years. stories, he will talk about how the situation is, yes, in ukraine, e needs some kind of course. here's how we do it. eh, maybe even within the e military. courses that the school began to teach. uh, hmm, maybe some extracurriculars about fake information about information manipulation and so on, because even when, for example, we discuss with colleagues the proposals of the ovns that come to them. all of them are in electronic format. we are all part of this new wonderful world in which we must be able. uh, separating white from black and understanding how these technologies work. see how interesting the world is. we live musk still bought twitter the whole world. watched buy will not buy. i don't know why

it's so interesting. do you know, why. well, this is more of an important political moment for the united states than for some of the rest of the world. well, here you see interesting changes have appeared, including innovative ones for all social networks. i think this is the blue verification checkmark. now it has started to sell. now this is not a confirmation that you are some famous person. uh, and worthy of this tick. can you buy it? this is a tricky one in particular. if earlier it was a blue check mark, it caused at least some trust in the person, and you understood that it was really this person, that is, a reload of $ 8, in my opinion, you can, uh, create, probably, the same character famous person. stop such a problem, i just now thought that we tend to exaggerate. these statuses are all and when there was no twitter, we, too, could love any crust of any diploma and in general represent anyone. yes, that is, the problem is older. she's always been like

that. look in general. i want to say that there is a tendency for the internet to cease to be completely anonymous and all of us in the coming years will begin to register on sites, including social networks, taking into account presenting a passport, so maybe this checkbox somewhere already will lose its meaning, because you already keep your passport data to provide them, this struck me. israel that you love, and when i arrived at the airport and saw on the wall that everything was already known about me, they greeted me. my photograph was there and everything was written about me in hebrew. i realized that the future has come, and it has come a long time ago and for this reason, we need highly intelligent belarusians, who are this cool super program, but a military analyst cattle ritter appeared on twitter well, what was perceived, well, with some enthusiasm by our side, that he posted a tweet about the fact that bucha was doing the hand of the ukrainians, but your opinion, well, does this betray the sympathy of the leader? well

, here's twitter ilona masked at least some. well , look, firstly, i don’t follow e- twitter itself, because it’s not exactly our social networks, i’m more interested in the notes that he indicated in this post, with the words test, well, that is, he checked. eh, clean it up. uh, message or not cleaned up. here i, for example, do not know or it or not? checked, here is also an interesting moment , to see how things are, including, because the mask fired absolutely all the top management and now single-handedly makes a decision in this regard, something the return of trump is now. well , i think that he will not return there, because he will develop his social network. by the way, this is a very important moment for our country to have its own social networks. uh, tools hmm information communication with the population and population with each other. actually. we have

quite a lot. i would say e of all kinds of digital solutions - this is rip. and here it is with a medicine related solution. uh, it's important to take advantage of the chinese experience and combine it all into a single structure. uh, in order for the belarusian society. in particular, it was possible to use your own structures, in which they will not be blocked, will not be censored , moderated, moreover, which will be protected from external influence correctly, including, because we are, for example, from bans. uh, they rarely come out. yes, and i’m also watching now how actively russia has recently begun to move to the rutube platform, you understand, nothing complicated really seems that this is ah-ah-ah-ah . everything we have is on youtube. well, especially if you, for example, follow the activities of your some popular friend. like it or not, where he places his publications. this, by the way, is also an important point, i would watch with interest the

social network of alexander grigorievich somewhere in our local belarusian social network. networks. you can see what a rush even the pool telegram channel is the first to write about the activities of the official visits of the head of state. and if it were his social network, where the head of state appeared also in some kind of informal one. i think it would be very interesting, uh situations in my life, but today we are facing a situation where the state is on the verge of losing the ability to apply measures to turn off the internet. we see how this is currently acting on the territory of ukraine when the infrastructure is destroyed, but at the same time with the help of starling space internet. there is the possibility of access, so in case of manipulation of society, if there is an opportunity for other

third-party representatives, er, to continue to influence the minds of our citizens even after the internet is turned off. we're going to be in great, uh, danger. i even think that it is necessary to fix at the legislative level that the state is a monopoly. in the field of providing the internet in the country, andrey, well, and in the end recently you. birthday er and they said, then, or rather they wrote it was a great year. e hmm , rich in bright events, i caught myself thinking that the older i get, the more plans and tasks appear. share with us your plans. lately, i've been sleeping 5 hours a day. i would like more like this one and one of the plans to sleep. he gets enough sleep, in general a lot of a very stormy flow of information. e for now. and you just spend a tremendous amount of time processing this information and putting it on the air.

uh, i would write there, uh, plans to develop in a professional environment. you are much more interested in science in political science or in journalism in political science, i'm probably more interested in research activities, but in history everything repeats itself. andrei is often asked this question to political scientists. well, anyway, there comes a moment of routine, you know? it has already been one way or another, you have not yet been overtaken by fatigue from the fact that everything is repeated. see. we live in such a turbulent world that we can at least partially explore. these are the facets that are now opening up, including in the digital world, in which we are all immersed, there is simply a colossal number of events and technologies that need to be explored, it is necessary to investigate the impact of these technologies on our society, which is immersed in this digital environment, so here we are entering a new space that no one has yet

explored. another new world. somewhere. i've heard it before, though. thank you very much for our conversation with you it is always easy and interesting to work with. we have been waiting for you for a long time. come more like only you will feel that there is a reason and something needs to be shared with the youth. it seems to me that you know how to work with her, because you have active social networks and there are a lot of clicks in your life. you are always pleased tatyana shcherbina victoria popova we say goodbye to you today. goodbye. goodbye. and now andrei sych says we really are in a new wonderful world, in which there are huge flows of information, there is a lot of digital informational fast food, which i propose to leaf through and eat. e our e cerebral only high-quality material.

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