this socio-political talk show will essentially discuss being a large family. it 's good or profitable alena syrova and kirill kazakov work in the studio well, for those who want to take part in our conversation. look here there is a qr code. download it with your phone. and, in principle, you can connect to the chat. hello well, probably everyone has seen the headlines that literally tomorrow the population of the earth will approach the figure of 8 billion. even in 2011, it was said that more than 7 billion live on the planet and only in the twenty-fifth year. we will reach eight, but the pandemic is probably isolation. and

such a limitation in space played a role and nevertheless the population of the globe increased, i must say that belarusians also make a considerable contribution to this, according to the information that we have over the past 10 years, and hmm, the number of large families in our country has increased twice the representatives. and there are also those who contributed, and today in our studio we will definitely talk with them, but first, as they say, here question to the expert anastasia grigoryevna but this result has doubled in 10 years, and the number of large families has increased. family families can it be considered effective given the investments that the state, for its part, make? yes, we remember that there were several stages. yes, there were various perks. we will talk about all this in more detail. well, from such a scientific point of view, of course. an effect is a positive effect. that is, by itself. this double increase is already and no one will argue with this effect, but

another thing is how much he uh, i would always like more. yes, well, we see, uh, the first wave of results, when we even got uh, after all, uh, support for large families. it is extensive, yes, but if we are talking about what is probably now well- known and associated with large families. this is family capital. uh-huh and uh, this is his first ad. yes, she also gave her work, because in the first two or three years we saw an increase in precisely these third children, because we sometimes look at the number became profitable not a topic, maybe maybe even not at all like that, but we say, that is, for the country, what is important for the country, every child is important, the first, second, third, tenth is not important here . yes? the main thing is that there are a lot of them. but when we are already looking at these sequences, then yes, here the fact that the first one is born is influenced by some measures, or there, the favorable economic situation

, including the support that is provided for families with many children, affects the fact that the third is born. and how much, uh, again, here we introduced family capital, then we saw this measure of the beginning dampen this effect from this measure, but introduced, uh, additional guarantees of simplification. yes. uh, the issuance of this family capital was reduced from hand. i wo n't just focus on it. and we also saw, again, uh responses from people, yes, well, again, these are uh families that already had two children. here is the question. how to stimulate? uh, so that we give birth to the first and second. tell me please, i probably won’t be mistaken and say that even 10-15 years ago, a large family, in many ways in our society, was associated with a marginal family. well people who, for example, had two or three children. it was still, in principle, such a normal social society, but when eight nine is 10, then, in

principle, it was most often believed that, well, this is something like that. well, not exactly good. now the situation has changed. hello , i would not say at all that for some reason it was said that a large family is somehow bad, but in general. uh, i'm as a representative of the juvenile department of internal affairs, and we work with minors and with them parents. these are socially families that are in a socially dangerous situation, e families, and the parents of children with whom the juvenile affairs inspections carry out these individual preventive work, and we will already say. so extreme e. the form is already uh, troubles in the family are families whose children have already been taken away from the family. and then you already

understand. i'll probably develop a little bit the topic that cyril spoke about, but it was not about the fact that it is absolutely bad to have many children. e, probably, it was more likely that a parents well two children, it’s easier to control them than, for example, parents of nine or ten children, and often, perhaps in such families, we may be mistaken in such large and large families, here is this level, there are such families, but in general , speaking of, as you said, 10-15 years, and taking into account the fact that you have already indicated that the number of large families has actually doubled. i want to say that the number of these dysfunctional families is decreasing every year. year after year. that is, the trend is down. here of this phenomenon, let’s say, of social unhappiness in this particular case, that is, the control

that you started talking about, and those children who, for example, are on preventive records of such children, in principle, are the same in ordinary families and in large families, and such families a the same in ordinary and large families and in prosperous and not prosperous teenagers commit offenses a and including prosperous families and a sufficient number of yul . here we talked with you, and you planted this thought in me that when you gave birth at your place the story was such a third child, just the same there was such a negative connotation of large families in society and they really talked about it from a large family. so, this is some kind of dysfunctional neglected child. perhaps there are some other aspects, but now i am already assessing the situation in society. i see that this is already pride, that is, large families have reached, but to some other, but to some other level indeed, because we have popularized a lot, we are popularizing large families. we tell and show a lot and

indeed, there are still such very important ones, and moments, after all, are often also spoken by a large family. who is this? these are dependents, yes, those who are on benefits do not work, please, in the studio, at least two large families eugene do not give the impression of a civil position, the kingdom also creates all the conditions for us to be a mother of many children. only dad had the opportunity to work. and now, how mothers with many children already use these preferences. this is another question. i'll tell you, honestly, i have three three wonderful boys. and when i went to give birth, third, i wanted a girl, not a boy. well, that's all, honestly i'll tell you the majority, you know what they said, what kind of apartment are you going to? i'll be honest with you , i didn't even think about it. what apartment to me how many years ago. you gave birth to a third 2 years ago two years ago. well, we talked about the fact that, probably, the most peak is the apartment. if you can call it that, it was 2005-2006, in my opinion,

when these benefits were provided, yes, which over time over time. ah, they've changed a bit . and just then, it seems there was a trend. and i have a lot of friends who actually went for the sake of an apartment. say for the sake of the apartment they go to give birth. well, just to understand. yes, you are still watching. as you look at an official, you understand, yes, these apartments really go to large families and large families. well, let's put it this way, we have created conditions for giving birth to a third person and getting an apartment, well, not always a large family can get this apartment, because in order to get an apartment you need to at least register needy, there are certain conditions under which the family can be registered. well, let's take the most standard way is less than ten squares for each person. that is, if the apartment is 64 square meters for a large family, five people they have exceeds the norm. not only will they not

take into account their own example. i have neighbors on the first floor. they have a whole block of two apartments. that 's okay, a large family. so you know, as we say, there are a whole social districts in minsk, the same stone hill, where horse mother of many children it is clear that this is an exaggerated name, but there is still such a story . well, we are, firstly, as government agencies. we are fulfilling the instructions of the head of state, where we are obliged to send families with many children to improve their living conditions during the year. this, among other things, send them to construction, or someone there chooses a method of acquiring such housing. well , of course, getting into the distribution of the apartment. they are primarily offered to large families. that is, roughly speaking, i can again exaggerate everything, that is only possible, that is, the third child is a chance to get an apartment and the opportunity to build it enough on a preferential basis; correctly, there is an opportunity to build an apartment, because it can be, it cannot be. uh, no further

needs, if you will, you contradict yourself . you say that in 2005 the trend was a large family, an easier way to get housing, and so on. now, uh, there are also programs for lending to housing for large families, but they have become more stringent and more substantial. wait, but we're talking about compared with the year, here we are talking about 10 years, the number of large families has increased, which means they did not go. they then for apartments this message is not look. i know exactly the statistics. such is the increase in the number of not so much large families. how many family-run orphanages, such as we have, are actually declining at the expense of e. here, as if the statistics are such that we have a growing number of houses where e family type, and it increases, including families with many children, but not quite like that, because a large family is considered to be born children and adopted children. that is, all children who are

spouses are married well. and if this is a story, yes, uh, a family orphanage, type, after all, they also apply. excuse me, i'm asking a materialistic question, but they also inflict additional damage on the living space. and they, too, probably apply for social benefits. after all, this is the profession of a mother who brings up additional children. and this is also a large family, or we believe that a large family is a family in which children born from a mother, and those whom she adopted are not a large family, you are a little confusing the two concepts of an adopted child. and as for a family-type house, when a mother is a woman or a man works as a father, yes, this is his job. he receives a salary . yes, this family is provided with housing, but it does not belong to them. and yet, the majority, but we still have families in which children, well, our own relatives so i didn’t want to use this word

in relation to children, but as it is, and now kohl can talk about support measures, in your opinion. which one is available today, and how many of them in fact, there is a lot of everything in the world and sphere a, let's just say hmm, very common here, but we already said housing. yes, there is a system of benefits, when a woman is covered, well, the family allowance is starting to beat especially pregnancy and childbirth . then, if a woman has become a night, uh antenatal care until 12 weeks, in fact at birth a monthly allowance and so on. and this is family capital. these are perks. uh, there is support for large families in education. and when they get an education, that is, it is for today day, the most sought-after place, which under no circumstances can not be refused, if we started with housing, but here it absolutely sounded right all the same. uh, the number of large

families began to increase significantly precisely after the fifteenth year, when and how family capital works, that is, well, for example, many people said that, in principle, this money that goes to a child after 18 years old, then changes were made. right. how can a family with many children use family capital now? take advantage? what can he go for, but we have, in principle, four areas for which a large family can spend family capital ahead of schedule, since when the first program was in the fifteenth year. it was really considered as a long-term investment, that is, in family capital. could have been used. after 18 years. here 5 years have passed and we have seen that families with many children have many other pressing problems that can be solved in the interests of children. now not 18 years later only for the third child. right? why on the third, but all from birth, the capital will arise at the

birth of the third, or relatively speaking, uh, zhila was a large family. until the fifteenth year had three children, until they tear the fourth child. right now, when the program is in effect, they will not receive capital, that is, exactly. here is the birth of a child of the third or subsequent after the fifteenth year, the change of capital is provided once. uh, if we talk about early use of course, this is an improvement in housing amount. well for today this is almost 26,000 belarusian rubles. wow, i'd like to add more. uh, when they developed it, you used the maternity capital, of course. and you, of course, cool, of course, when i legislate, but i just want to note that this measure was introduced? yes, a very good family capital, i must say. it's great. well, how are all the parents? we thought that sometime there in 18 years, maybe we will use it, yes, that

is, it was some kind of sky-high blue dream, and what a huge job was done? well, i i’m just saying in this context, even as a public figure, that is, we accumulated all requests, all requests from the social work committee of the ministry of social labor and analyzed all these requests, isolated those requests that sounded from parents with many children. wherever they would like ahead of time to be allowed to use this family capital, because we really live here and now and there are a lot of needs, and due to the fact that you have many children. this is such a big job it is with the population, it is with these families, that is, they didn’t just come up with it then, and there, by itself, it works. no, it's all cumulative. this is a big analytics, and people hear what requests they come with. this is also

important evgenia and what, from your point of view, could there be additional measures for what we are today. we have enough now and from the point of view of you possibly going after the girl for the fourth, if it didn’t work out, and in general for those large families, which today it is no longer clear that it is enough that it is introduced, firstly, the construction of housing. yes, you can educate a child for the same money, but they offered to do teeth for something else. well, as it were, of course, in fact, not only education can be taught, not only a child can receive, but also parents , we considered how parents get an education. this means that he is celebrating a new career role, such as not a fishing rod, but not a loose fishing rod. we give you the opportunity to get an education, that is, to start build your career. yes indeed it is health care there. uh, let's say that when performing

complex medical operations, not only dentistry needs, let's say, certain substances, or medical ones. which can be paid for by beings of family capital. well, here is a new direction, which has not yet turned out, let 's say, proper development, but was carried out only in 2022 . this is a means of social rehabilitation so that a disabled child, if brought up by a family, or parents with disabilities, can integrate into society in an easier direction. well in in particular, he can buy a computer that can be used by a visually impaired person, that is, any other devices that will help him socialize and, perhaps with the help of this equipment, he will be able to earn further. but this is how we touched on the topic of housing, yes, after all, this is the foundation of the foundations, so kirill m-m talked about the fact that we have such entire areas with large families and in connection with this issue alexander mikhailovich tell me, and in

these areas somehow problematic with children in comparison, for example, well, with others, is it different or not? again, i would not single out any areas separately. uh overall, uh situation. i will say that it is under control and nothing you said that everything will be under control at a meeting of the president. i understand that, well, look. i'll give you an example. august 2020 a stone hill with flags goes out with strollers, for god's sake they go with many children. the mother of a horse, about the same people, the question arises. say here, i am again in front of your form in front of your form. it sounds actually funny, but be a bad cop. i have a question about these people. that's how often you find out, and the facts that people use may not be criminal. and at least, well, in some very ingenious schemes in order to deceive the state with money from

maternity capital. with an apartment. well, here uh. hmm, the question is probably not exactly in the field of law enforcement. in general, in principle, probably, there is no question for the system of the ministry of internal affairs, uh, with regard to maternity capital and these manifestations, for example, with regard to prevention. yes, i know for sure that the district police officer, for example, goes from apartment to apartment in order to see how certain children live and often come, for example, they understand the apartment, there are three, four, five children. mom dad sleep unrestrained there alcoholic sleep and everyone knows perfectly well that they live for these allowances. here are the cases, how often they occur. well, such situations happen. uh, the question is that we have a well -established system in the republic regarding work in general with dysfunctional families. i have already mentioned in presidential decree no. 18 additional measures

on state protection of children. uh, it means if such facts are revealed, ah, especially if parents lead an asocial moral lifestyle, such children are simply withdrawn from seven, and for starters, this is provided for by the decree president for 6 months, which means they are placed on state support, as typically, this is a social drive. and often it happens it happens it is conditional on 100 families. how many such families? maybe at least conditionally 2-3 10 20 50%. well the numbers, i won't call uh. hmm yes so such situations there is such a phenomenon there was, but uh, let's say, uh, we are successfully jointly interested in the first place, and state organizations. this is primarily health education. uh, the ministry of labor and social protection all together. eh, some work is being done. and as i already

noted. and such children are recognized as needing state protection. less every year and as a result of this work for 6 months, a complex of measures is being carried out to improve the situation in the family. ah, finally, but more children is returned to the family, thereby losing parental rights. and that's what i would like to note, and that our state creates such conditions so that parents have the opportunity to cope, that is, in no way in the west, yes, they came seized and goodbye. do you know where your children are? they just work differently. you see, here is such a consistent work aimed at ensuring that all the same children return all the spectators, our spectators, the spectators, questions, as it were, to the end, because in fact they are not always tolerant . well, still, uh, such a family, oh, whom we are talking with exam mikhailovich. come on, no matter how socially it would not be reliable, after all, they

also have the right to such a construction of jelly, and they often build and often. on uh, a question arises from the neighbors, you know, here, again, you buy an apartment in these areas like kamennaya gorka with questions. are there large families there? because again a priori that this is a dysfunctional family. here is how they check these families and whether they can all buy or build an apartment at reduced prices. well, the package of documents is checked, that is, for initially, means is checked if, in order of priority, this and a large family receive a notice that you can carry out construction. in such a house, there must be a large family. her income must be less than the established norm. that is, if the income exceeds the norm, it is natural for such a large family, uh, it does not work out on the one hand. if you earn a lot, you can, as it were, build an apartment for yourself, you don’t need benefits,

if you earn little, then, in principle, you can ask for a certificate from the ministry of internal affairs and you are socially disadvantaged. no. in the same place, this is not a certificate from the ministry of internal affairs. how does this control take place? here's how, in fact, a socially disadvantaged family, relatively speaking, standing there on the control of an infection in juvenile affairs, they have, say, two or three children. so they can build themselves, they have some kind of obligations there, i don’t know, that they have to improve or something else, or it doesn’t concern construction at all. this does not apply to construction at all. if the family i also did not understand if the family consists, yes, which means she does not have the right to be built or not? and actually it can't. a lot of the latter we have recently, where did they get their money from, we have been talking a lot lately, yes, that's about the word of justice. and well , indeed, such is the calling card of our state. we are talking about the fact that the state does a lot. this is for citizens. we pay taxes

due to the lord to us in order to enjoy certain social benefits there. yes, we are talking about the same in the context of people employed in the economy is not employed in the economy talking about what well if you don't pay taxes, how can you go there to get free. yes, conditionally parasites to us these and use the services in the clinic. well , for example, and now we, probably, and our viewers are interested in what, after all, is the benefit that the state provides in terms of providing for large families. they are the same for those who, relatively speaking, plow and pay taxes for those wow , respectively, maybe we are moving to the fact that we also need to have some differentiated approach to such families or not. either it will be unfair, some kind of differentiation is needed or it is not. in fact, here are

a number of state support measures, they, uh, not uh, are not always associated with the employment of both parents. although there are support measures in particular. this is if the family has a child under 3 years old and is. uh, let's say the child is disabled. it's called a special allowance. it requires the employment of the father for at least 6 months for the fact that the year yes from a separate family category is called here, and if you take the address help. yes, there are certain preferences also for large families. but if such a family needs support, m-m, and there, indeed , a plan is prescribed for the family, which it must fulfill in order to increase its income. in fact, there is not a restriction in all respects , i will say right away, but they are and we will leave absolutely agree. if today families with many children and families with children of large families receive free

meals at school, relatively speaking, here, of course, it is the employment of parents, after all tied up because the task of the states is to ensure the health of the unborn child, that is, the child and the future citizen of the republic of belarus, the state is trying to support this family. at least by feeding him at school. here and here to say that if your dad mom does not work. we will not support and feed you at school, probably, it’s also not quite right. i’m saying this, in fact, there should be an opportunity for parents who work to build an apartment for a year of taxation, but i think that they will not be able to build it. uh, because there really is a need for income from these parents to get a loan and the state repays the speech, then it helps to repay the loan that the parents will take, but first they have to take it, but we say, for example, but in minsk yes we mean to a greater extent. but we also have similar families with many children, and in the countryside there are also in others, and the regions of the air that a lot of people actually survive due to such child allowances and allowances and the opportunity. yes

, indeed, if we are talking about rural areas, then uh for them, uh, this amount of benefits, which we monthly talk about dysfunctional, we are talking about all families, in principle, for them, uh, it is much more profitable relatively if we compare with the capital, but another thing. e family capital. here , too, you need to watch it. we're talking capital tv. of course, here 26.000 rubles. some will say what it is compared to a $100,000 apartment for refurbishment. eh, housing, yes, this money is quite significant, and here we are already talking about the fact that this amount, well, practically there in large part, but it will be enough to do something else there. well, i mean, uh, uh, not really. uh, since these amounts of funds cannot be directed to repairs. today, family capital can be built on improving housing conditions

only if the family needs to improve housing conditions, and if the family lives in the house, and they get 15 m² there, on the father for the family. they won't be able to, uh, take a penny of replacement capital, and such appeals were enough meter will give birth to another one again. here we are talking about those, let's say so. here it is impossible to say the filters that the state puts in order to, uh, use family capital. well, let's say so conscious irrational e, in the twentieth year. we really did. uh, families to use the family captain home improvement. and when we literally analyzed the practice in a year. we saw that large families appeared, which, by all means, by truth and not by truth, tried to use capital buy some jelly that might not even cost 10.000 in order for some like you,

say a fraudulent scheme will appear representatives of the uh area. i think they can be more detailed. i now just want to say that the filter immediately legislator appeared filter today determined the value of this housing. today, this housing should not be, and today our alienation is prohibited in the register of good data for five years, that is, to get it to buy. here is the way later. you can't resell quickly. today this family need is removed from the queue, that is, everything. that is, if they accept such a regime, that is, the state reacted very quickly to these attempts to withdraw family capital. but we are talking about families that need something in some dysfunctional families. well, if it's about the good, here, we're interested. probably so that families of successful parents and families that are quite well off there, including more willingly decide on a larger number of children, and often. we see that

1 2 stops and, in general, finished for final years this question is so, how to motivate here are such successful busy people, and for the birth of more little belarusians. well , of course, of course, state support, it motivates. if it were not for all these benefits, it would be quite difficult for many. well, they are adequate parents who think about the future, of course, gave birth and went, of course, first of all, the apartment that is being built is the eldest son, in fact, yes, then sergey tatyana sergeevna has a question for you. look, what about square meters for large families in minsk how much does one square meter cost and are there any other benefits planned? this is a question about the cost per square meter, not for us, not for our management. let's say that the cost is determined by the developer after the release of the project declaration. therefore, to say in advance how much a square meter in housing will cost? so what about the waiting list?

and what is the waiting list? well, how many people? what a line we have from family stores in the city of minsk five and a half thousand, of which there are already 3.5 thousands are improving their living conditions. us annually. yes, that's zasyplan in the direction of such large families in the twenty-second - this is 1.226. this plan has been fulfilled by 77%. approximately 930 families sent and about 300. even before the end of the year will send an average of how many are waiting e their 2 years ago to say that many do not agree here offer. i just know they give such a building area. yes, so there is a choice. so, no no no no, where to live, yes, it turns out there is housing? this essentially continues the theme of large families, if you remember april 2011 and the famous

message in which the president delivered the first child, this is your second. we will see where to help someone, and the third child is mine, this is a catchphrase, probably, it says that, well, already then alexander grigorievich was still thinking about demography. and so, he probably let his family through the prism, and then he said that in our country, probably, it is necessary that about 30 million people live, then it will be. well, in principle, the country will develop and will be such a strong stable society. and tell me, here we have large families, now there are more or they give birth. here's what you don't know about. well, if you believe the statistics, they have already been brought in the first part of the program and it has become larger. well, even from my own experience, that's when it happens. ponds undoubtedly began to give birth to the third fourth fifth. that's even for me to be in recent years quite often than before, moreover, her firm opinion and convictions. when you ask mom well

, why, what that you were the reason for childbirth, of course. this is not an apartment of some material the benefits of an absolutely conscious approach to choosing people, if we take the medical component e from the point of view of professionalism, the statistics are very simple in 2000, the average age of the birth of the first child was 25 and 60 years. now we have 29.6. that is, for 4 years, our mother, unfortunately, the conclusion is that motherhood has begun to be approached awareness no, probably, it would be more correct to say that the priority of motherhood is the priority of the family. still, it doesn't come first. we have a woman in the first place. this is receiving first, education receiving material benefits device in life. then a little later it becomes a question of priorities. and for us, from the point of view of medicine, this is a little worse, because mom, the older she is, the more she approaches the problem of motherhood with a large bouquet of problems and ensure

safe motherhood for her. this is directly the work of our doctors, but i remember a few years ago i talked with one of the experts, and they expressed such an opinion that yes, it’s wonderful and great that in belarus it stimulates the birth of a third and subsequent children. but, and when there are two children in a family, then the third is decided somehow easier. so, maybe, all these measures can be taken and transferred to the birth of the second and subsequent ones, or well, it won’t pull, until, uh, the belarusian budget is so simple. well, or now i'll talk about it really, really. families with many children are where they bring up more children, they have additional , let's say, a pool of social guarantees, but we started talking with you about the system of benefits, including the topic that it can be assigned independently from whether the first is a child, the second is the third, or

subsequent, uh, a set of benefits. it's practically the same. the only allowance for caring for a child up to 3 years is available. this is the first child 35% of the average wage in the country, if the second, subsequent - is 40% all the time benefits are also differentiated. this is the first child. uh, 10 minimum budgets, the second and subsequent 14. that is, here support begins from the second. well , family capital, well, family capital, as long as it starts from the third. no, but from the second is calculated somehow or we stopped altogether, and even for the current year we have planned about 380 million rubles for family capital. this is at the birth of the third. if you inject capital on the second, here is an additional resource very significantly. tell me, please, there are large families in your area. so we started talking about this topic. again, like an evil cop, i return to this story. this is still a blessing, or it is, as it were, a preventive problem.

that's what it is for e. well, we understand for the city that, in principle, here a little urbanization eats up these social uh, inequalities. here, as in the borisov district today, 20070 lives one large family, and, of course, the majority. the largest number of them is the city of borisov, and only about 400 are the borisov district. this is a rural area, so the opportunity to build an apartment in the city is used by every willing family, which is registered. and therefore, this is also an incentive for the area, for example, yes, we are also used to the fact that a christian family is a large family. here, are there many examples in the borisov district when a large family, well, relatively speaking, a farmer, or people who work on the land and people and children work on the land, of course, there are such families and they are no longer in the first generation, they are large, and we are coming to these families.

let’s say, when examining them, we also find out that their parents and grandmothers had many children and even lived in the same village for several generations, and how would this be such a positive example for everyone else now, that is, for you large families family is a blessing. it is not, there are no problems with them . here's what. we spoke in terms of there, well-being. unfavorable. today, for almost 67 days, the borisov region has been in a socially dangerous position , and this is urban areas. this is a large number of large families. less becomes more more, please, here's how the situation, well, borisov district. i don't understand how it is in the minsk region. in principle, that is, here is a large family - this is most often an example for well other people were leveled, or is it really a problem, that is, we were talking about that 15 years ago. it was such a symbol

of marginality, perhaps not for everyone, but still not. well, of course, there are still more positive examples than negative ones in the minsk region, as well as in the borisov district. of course, there are those families that are in a socially dangerous situation, and we, as a system of social protection, work with this family and help, let’s put it this way. uh, we are trying to help so that we can direct our efforts to correct situation for this in the system of social services in our institutions of the territorial centers, there are qualified specialists, these are psychologists who accompany the family lawyers who provide legal assistance. here is the trend, of course, i would not say that it is increasing. there, people with many children are becoming massively unfavorable, but nevertheless, of course, this trend is also in the minsk region, probably a question for you. well, he really even

turns out to be some kind of very funny if i'm a father. three children are all different wives, but i do not live with them. if the option is to get an apartment, of course there is another marriage. well, you see, and now, as i understand it, the person who writes. he must have tried to study the bill. in family capital , everyone has a chance, but in fact, prosperous families. there are also those who have one child or two children, and so on, in a dysfunctional family with many children. this does not mean that this is, as it were, a panacea, uh, for solving a problem everywhere, because, for example, we are here, when one child is a good family, many children are a bad family, this is wrong. this is the wrong thing some kind of train. now this has all changed. and, by the way, image history. that's just alena talking about motivation, and the beauty contest of belarus last year was the first time this year, yes, evgenia of the contest. tell me what kind of competition for newspaper monks and

just the same, but for now it shows how successful women can be in a family and have children, there are many different numbers of children from three and so on and successful in business. someone in private in fact, someone, that is , they also grow in the professional field, and this is also important, because again, as i said, six. there, the summer is still there , and 10 years ago they said that it’s just all such social dependents who are on benefits, and including the state helps in this. once again, at 0.5 rates, you can perfectly receive both benefits and work. and this moment, it gives you the opportunity for your mother to leave maternity leave very smoothly, because it is also difficult. you lose qualification. well, i'll still insist on his own, and on the fact that the third fourth fifth will not be without the first. and uh. well, let's also touch upon such a problem, which, unfortunately, exists in

our country, that not all couples can, uh, independently acquire, uh, a child. and now, in my opinion, since last year, yes, and we have such a measure of support as free, huh? and a free opportunity to do ivf, and in this regard, sergey alekseevich probably has a question for you. here, uh, how the situation has changed now how much a couple of topics, well, if there are such figures, they have already taken advantage of this opportunity and how much this work turned out to be in demand from last year and from the second half of the 21st year. we started to implement. these are all the moments of the possibility of providing a free attempt, a goat for 9 months , according to operational data so far, because there are no exact ones , more than 160 children were born in 9 months, according to statistics, the number of completed cycles was 1.2009. the number of those who have read is almost approaching 1,400. i remind you that we have planned 2.000 cycle, the efficiency of the eco method, according to the

latest data again, is 36.2%. another question is clear that ivf will not fully solve the problem of demographic security, but for a separate one. you are a category of citizens due again to their sufficient and high cost of financial inaccessibility. this is by far the only hope to get a child, so the state. e, here it is entirely on the side of the reproductive potential, so for understanding it is worth, in principle, one attempt. so at the cost price, taking into account all the costs of about five and a half thousand rubles is the provision of this free ivf attempt, taking into account medicines, medical products , labor of workers and all components, so this is certainly a significant support. see. we talked about the fact that there are families that cannot give birth to a child, they resort to ivf services. so i started this topic. you

told me that this is a slightly different story. and if there are families who want to adopt children, do not create a family orphanage, but an adoptive parent. here they fall into the category of large families. or not. here, i'm relatively speaking, here we are with a couple. yes, we took and adopted three three five there, relatively speaking, brothers sisters, this becomes, well, the reason for equating the status. well, that is, we have already talked about this, but here, and i just want to follow up already. yes, er, probably, youth, this is what we should work on, like working on mistakes. we must explain to those who are just entering this reproductive age of 18-19-20 that there will be problems later, and you will come to do eco, sooner or later you will want give birth to a child, but it will be at 35. and not a mother anymore, again, we forget and say a large mother, mother, father, because there is no responsible person, but now it’s already somehow a program. uh, well,

some kind of activation comes from this responsibility of fatherhood and thanks to this, too. we have appeared, because it turns out that support for a woman, and mother , is no longer so scary to give birth to a second and third, and even. mom, dad will have to give birth, you don’t understand, therefore, only if dad has three, and i won’t live with him in this family. uh wants an apartment. the fact is that the child must live and be dependent on his parents. that is , the parents must develop. and if you're just being, well, sorry for the word there, a biological dad who doesn't live together. even if they pay alimony, then in fact you, uh, do not provide for the daily existence of your child, therefore, well, they can have a child from one marriage with their mother. well, the wife. yes, the father’s child is a child that lives, but they are

such, in principle, usual for our history now yes, in order to become a large family, if these three children live with them, they cannot get the status of a large family , receive measures, support. those who are older. here there is this age limit or some general trends associated with infertility, for example, they are beyond the age limit up to 40 years. why because it is quite effective, then this eco procedure means, unfortunately treated already when this is the last opportunity to become pregnant, so the age is most often already by the second half of the reproductive age. yes, absolutely right. although there is no such term, and now, but nevertheless we say, by the way, and here, well, if from journalistic sensations recently in your center the maximum

number of children born from one woman and at once. tee yes, there were no quadruplets for a long time already. here the editors suggest that like 10 years ago, that is, in fact. such are the women who gave birth and at once having many children, in principle, a little or a lot, well, several couples pass a year, three, four, five. here, in our center, he specializes, including it is precisely such multiple pregnancies and such a number of cases that how to motivate then to stop the parents of younger people who are passionate about building, but i don’t know about a career, providing some basic, but their needs earlier in russia 19 years. and you already, in principle, and everything. well, probably, if you will, here. hmm, it is important that the state hire or helped these young people find a balance

between here we talked career growth professional growth and change. responsibilities this is very important in order for uh women and men to understand. e, when a spouse leaves to take care of a child under 3 years old, that, firstly, her career does not stop even during this period. she really is. maybe u get care allowance. and here i am already here sounded to eat at work will not be half the rate it is both part-time and part-time. this is remote work. that is, all these recent changes in the legislation on the labor trading state, which we asked, but uh, kohl about maternity leave up to 3 years, a lot is said about the fact that well, this is it. hey, this is the threshold. it is unprecedentedly high in our country. well, well , no one has such time together in different countries, this question was somehow raised for a couple of years that maybe we should reduce it to at least two years, given that now there

is an opportunity to work remotely there. and basically, well, somehow more interested in in order not to interrupt your professional activities, or maybe there is no need to keep this threshold up to three. no, you know, i think that now the task of the state is to help a woman, even while on this vacation, and without losing her professional skills, and today a woman, while on vacation, to care for a child , can contact the employment service and undergo advanced training or retrain for some other profession, or positions absolutely free of charge so that even when it ends here. she was ready to go to market labor to send dad on maternity leave. but i would like to say that employers are employers, they are not always happy with all these, numerous references of parents with many children, when there is an additional day off and payments, and now i want to zero five, and then only they will come to the rate, that is, not all employers indeed, but are ready to accept everything so impudently, let's say. and probably,

we won’t even say everything directly, but they know, but the tools that they have and what they can use. i mean, large families. here. i think the tradeoff is between employer awareness. ours is quite high. but it’s the employers, when they don’t want to, uh, hmm, they don’t want to by any means, but to bring these preferences to life, but it’s true, it’s really simple, yes, this fact sounded like one free day. e a week indeed, if a family brings up three more children under 16 years old, one of the e parents is entitled to one free work off money per week. and with the payment of average earnings. and here it's not to employers do not want employers can not always provide it. well, my mother is conditionally on maternity leave . yes, and there dad, for example, works for him

this day is provided yes, yes. now the labor code is being entered into the draft already in order to replace this one free day with a reduction in working hours by 1 hour, that is, a woman will no longer work 8 hours, but 5 days for 7 hours, yeah. well, uh, quite, perhaps, quite, perhaps it will be easier for the employer to provide this norm, because when there is no employee at work all day, but it can be very difficult to organize production from our viewers. my husband and i have been living for 17 years, three common children, not officially painted. that is why he was not entered in the certificate of a large family, because, unfortunately, officially he is not a member of your large family, if the couple signs and the children are registered on him, then i believe that he, in principle, about the birth of children. he is the father, most likely, and recorded. damn, but he er children about

priore we have here, if we consider the whole family. yes they are usually found with and only if there is no one either special court order uh, so the father. yes, he is not a member of a large family. he needs to register a marriage to create a normal family. we talked about the fact that a mother, especially one who is on maternity leave, is given the opportunity, well, to change the work of her organs. here are the opportunities in your area. well, for example, indeed mom is on maternity leave for the third time. yes, that is, in fact, the ninth year, and she wants to go out, well, relatively speaking, her work, which was 9 years ago does not bring that money. she was disappointed in her. what are the possibilities? there is, of course, the possibility of retraining the department of labor, occupation and social protection, and they use and work with those categories , and enterprises also have the opportunity to talk about such categories. there is an opportunity for self-employment and changing shoes and getting another

profession for free and the opportunity to transfer even from the city to the district and receive some other payments. therefore, nadezhda anatolyevna can tell us in more detail. so directly wounded our employment center. this is usually the services there are a series of beauty services say hairdressing. yes. eh, shoemaker, if we assume also a woman. can also study here can go, let's say and get blue. relearn. yes, for work for work sign in. well sign in. well, these are some kind of computer minimal accounting courses, too, she can go to work on the program. tell me, please, here, well, nevertheless, for example, a mother of many children, they probably think that they will retire, and now many become individual entrepreneurs or self-employed. here is how, for example, i don't know, this category is controlled by you. see. how do you help, what kind of social

benefits for those who are conditionally, well, i don’t know. she bakes bread , makes cheese, brings up children and looks after the household. that's how these people are. here. well, just like everyone else. no, it's just that there is some difference or not, but if they do it as an individual, as if they are self-employed, they still pay contributions to the social protection fund anyway. they pay tax, there are women who, well, decided to devote themselves to the family, yes, and not a day, for example, well, not worked, respectively, their such an unspoken profession is to be a mother. here. eh, why not then? well, that is, but the usual one, mom, i don’t know, uh, can support her. yes, and a family can be fed there conditionally , i don’t know, there, dad, and over time she has some kind of hmm social guarantees. the same pension will be in it. here are some provided or not, and benefits to

provide it. hey, what else do you need? here is the question. that is, she is at home, yes, and the maintenance of her husband, the children have an apartment, they invest their whole soul, which means that she raises wonderful children for her family, uh, who we forget, we began to say, here is a large family. parents there have to take care of their children, but we forget that when the children grow up. they have to take care of their parents. and, probably, this mother builds her life path in such a way that she invests everything in children and has the right to calculate, because then the children they will take care of the pension. yes, she will have a pension, it will be a social pension, which will be assigned to her in 603. accordingly, ah, i remember there was also a measure to support pension women, who interrupt their seniority and go on maternity leave there , let's say for six to nine years, respectively, now up to 12 years, the time spent

on vacation, caring for a child is counted in the total experience, it is necessary to appoint a child - this, in principle, is even beneficial, that is very often our people in the formation. this one is understanding. how much will the pension be confused by the general labor, that is, there are also two conditions that people who are currently working. well, relatively speaking, the company went on social leave to care for a child from the enterprise, or left, as the ipshniks are specially busy. they have a difference in pensions, i will ask about this. well, because their income, of course, labor will be higher. yes, you know, we are here with you, uh, we also talk to our respected mothers with many children, they asked, in principle, here i am, and when we touch on this topic every time, but it really seems that now , well, that's all the measures support and stimulation, which only could, all of them provided all of them we have and we are already starting further. well is called, but to pervert here and come up with

something, well then the question arises. why does sergey alekseevich not have much work to do? as he would like. we work a lot and love our work, therefore, of course, for the sake of them for all these things, so that mothers can give birth, and poland would be painless for themselves, therefore, the priorities are from the point of view, yes, medicine in health care. we certainly have the main directions. this is to provide the opportunity for mothers who want to have a child to get this opportunity for those who have some problems to do so for yourself and for your children. these were some minimal consequences, that is, safe motherhood. that 's basically what we're working on. look , there are some things that parents might be interested in having a second, third, fourth child there. there, relatively speaking, partner childbirth, or well, i don’t know , some kind of relation to a special mother, or it ’s still built into the family upbringing. you know anyway. uh, it all has to come from there from within, from

oneself there must be a clear understanding of the priority motherhood and only then all the goodies. some additional provision of partner childbirth is a great opportunity. family-type maternity wards where you can even come with the whole family to support yours, which, as they say, is sometimes a parent, even better than in your house in your apartment, so we are, as i say, doing everything possible to ensure that such a the opportunity to provide, but until the young mother decides for herself, but to give birth to one child. you're better off giving birth to two or three you won't change anything. unfortunately. all this should go to the priorities of motherhood from childhood, according to the absolute decision, it must be absolutely balanced, right, right for yourself, and you know, i want a little phrase here, what really is in these vitally important and basic issues that will change your life, but

the decision must not be taken lightly. for someone some social benefits or buns that you can get, and here you need to rely on yourself. and not flesh itself. well, all the same, belarusians in their traditional form they have always had many children, because they were peasants and on the ground. we have to work together, so let's probably remember a little in the stern.

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