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for 4 months in prison, an earthquake in indonesia is already known from 20 victims, as reuters clarifies the magnitude of the tremors was 5.6 the epicenter was located near the city of chiangjur. in the west pre-earthquake damaged dozens of houses in the hospital delivering victims and possible aftershocks. heavy snowfall will bring an orange danger level to belarus tomorrow at night in most of the gomel and mogilev regions, heavy snow is expected. air temperature at night will drop to six frost and in the afternoon from -5 ° to plus one all week the weather will be snowy , unstable and damp cyclone will move to the central regions of the european part of russia and belarus seems to be an intermediate area of ​​​​high atmospheric pressure is expected, mainly by businessmen. night morning hours in some places in the northeast. the republic will have short-term
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snow. night hours. the air temperature will drop to -2° c, repressions to -11 daytime parts, the air temperature will be from -5 to plus one degree, at the end of the week, atmospheric fronts they will bring a mix of sleet precipitation to our country, with rain on the roads it is said, therefore, it will be foggy and the driver should be especially careful. new information about my colleagues at 15:00 on our air . all the best.
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alexandrovna good evening. good evening. two years before the new elections in may 2022. you promised to come to belarus and you did not keep your promise. i will even say this, because your first visit to our country in your entire long life did not happen to get out, so let's first first trip to belarus look at me to a greater extent managed to feel something, of course, of course, a terrific impression. yesterday. it all went through such a piercing pain and gratitude in the museum of the great patriotic
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war. so this topic always touches me very deeply. that is, you know how with pain in your heart and with tears in your eyes when you see. as in the first place, the people of belarus withstood the first blow of belarus during the great patriotic war. what suffering did you endure? how much yes now still even the nameless heroes laid down their lives, and this cannot leave anyone completely indifferent, that is, for me, this deepest impression is still from people from the atmosphere, that is, if i used to, uh, you know, we, well, people in belarus are very fond of loves belarusians in russia , that is, as you know, it is believed that belarusians are already very calm, very hardworking people, patient, very clean, neat, many good, many good words. a, but it's one thing all my
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life in absentia to treat well and understand to love here is one in absentia, but another thing is when you come to feel and you understand that it’s really with love. in the heart, it will say, yes, it makes me very happy, because you say that many russian officials prefer belarus to come here. uh, soviet belorussia yes, and the truth is already hurting the ears a little, and we perceive it somewhat. well , it's not clear, yes. why do you have such a definition? well, let's say. our country is very positive, i will take it so. and you know, i was actually born, born in uzbekistan, that is, i have e the very difficult fate of my relatives, uh from the side of my father and siberia from the side of my mother. uh, i have it in voronezh , because it was also during the war of evacuation that there
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was an evacuation, and my grandfather and father were dispossessed of us. i mean his family at the time. and as you know, paradoxically, kulakov were usually exiled in siberia. but then it turned out that they had to flee to central asia. and now this time is e, so the war and there is already a post-war time. eh, i gave birth with and. eh, you know, people from all over the soviet union came there then. here i remember ours i studied at school. out of 30-something people in our class, there were at least twenty people of 27 nationalities, different, different, very diverse, including a spoonful of germans. well, everyone and belarusians, there were ukrainians and uzbeks. naturally, there were no tatars either, there was just no one , yes, and this is the environment in which we grew up, first of all, respect. here is respect and a desire to understand, we went to visit each other, treated us to
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our national dishes there, that is, the interest in respecting another culture and other traditions is careful relation. you understand you can not invade the national environment like that. uh, you know, with a heavy boot, but you can’t, because sometimes, when you do n’t understand, it seems to you that this phrase is normal , but people, especially i know this, because i worked a lot in the caucasus but this is what i have here . there are some nuances that you think are nothing special. and you can offend not just a person. and you can offend people, so you have to be. that's what i have since childhood. this is delicacy, subtlety, respect and desire to understand yes, well, well, what can i say? eh, you understand? we all still have blood mixed in. yes, that's in each of us and ukrainian belarusians. belarusian russian and this is the feeling of our slavic
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paganism, yes, and the mentality and common history of our country is the soviet union we do not care, well, i uh, forgive me, next year will be 70 years old. yes, that is, but we grew up, you can’t reject it, you understand, and there was a lot of good, and this is inherent in us, and er. well, apparently all this, well, shaped my character and attitudes like this, so for me. well, here, i say, absentee love and intimacy, and now here it is, i just felt, thank you. well, uh, look at the chairmen of the cec of belarus and russia, uga karpenko and panfilov, a communist. well, that's how i figured it out for myself. yes, here's how you succeed and whether you managed to find a consensus, there are no problems at all, and i'll tell you. why. first, we are both in this case as
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heads of electoral systems. what is an electoral system in general? it already in itself predetermines something like a democratic way. the formation of power through elections and, uh, i will say that all these stereotypes have outlived their usefulness, everything that was formed by the communists was chosen. democrats, conservatives, republicans, now everything has collapsed. right now, in recent years, especially when compressed time is growing, dynamism is growing in general, that is, we are entering a new historical era in general. and this ideological epoch is generally a way. i would say that this is now a challenge for all of humanity. to be or not to be? in what coordinate system, how are we? could we get out of the impasse into which he drove to the west with
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his own? yes will we be able to find ways for wildlife to coexist with this world, harmoniously? how are we going to build at all? what quality of life should be the quality of interaction with everyone. uh, well, let's say this with all the representatives. here is the creation of this being. these are the most important philosophical questions. yes, and in this case, we all will have to answer this, and but all these stereotypes are political clichés, they all collapsed, what is all modern communism. take a communist, take it and today we were in the temple, yes, and uh, no matter how we say. uh, well, the soviet era. you should be an atheist, and so on and so forth now, but this is not the case, many are communists, they are believers or they perceive it very much. peaceful refers to religions, then i, for myself, i can’t understand this definition of a democrat, and in general, communism is a democrat of communism - this is an
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ideology. in my opinion, democracy is a way of forming power, to a greater extent, a procedure, and not some kind of gem ideology. well, that, here i am, in general, since the ninetieth year, non- partisan. here i am, despite all the myths did not set foot, i came to the communist party with the advent of gorbachev in 85 with faith in the variable. here, with hope, and yet you will say, as quickly left this party in the ninetieth year with great disappointment and already distrust, because he began to do in the ninetieth before, a year before the path took place and how the path and when everything ran from there a year before since then. i did not join any party and my worldview. here i would so said representation it is much more complicated than those, than those political clichés. yes, i am a very
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free free inner person, so i value the freedom of others. and yes, i think, well, let's say something. i am very tolerant and liberal, but on the other hand i am a deeply patriotic and believe that right now in my opinion. even if we take our country, and how this is a dramatic situation that has developed, how society has shown it. everyone now manifests itself in a new quality , and now these all of them have collapsed all these lags. we now for the country or are you in favor of destroying it? it's not just against someone's side . that's why we have all of our most important political forces. despite everything you know turned out to be so mature. and then there was an understanding that all our ideological contradictions are different. now they are secondary. come on, if we join forces now. let's save the country. and then, on the
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path of its development, when yes, we will decide these nuances, so no, i don’t see any contradictions, we have a lot in common. and now we today we discussed just the main task, without imposing anything on each other. we appreciate the specifics of the national specifics of the system, each with its own cultural, while sharing experience. we will share experience and develop what, for example, is acceptable from us, you are acceptable from you. here is how we develop. well, since you have touched, yes, the topic of democracy or liberalism. you have served as commissioner for human rights. uh, from the fourteenth to the sixteenth year, and led. uh, there were citizenship movements. by at least what i read yes were in the democratic opposition. and in general, here's the word since
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we have already touched on this democracy and human rights. yes, at a certain moment, you must agree, they were for the soviet people, especially such a magical light. this is how it is, this is the faith into which the new faith, which they tried to impose on us, but over the past couple of years, they have discredited themselves so much that i don’t know, frankly speaking, how to relate to them and isn’t it time, in principle, not introduce new definitions. that's why the vaunted western democracy doesn't evolve, degrades and how true. this is the saying that democracy is dead. and well, for now, the people will live, and the desire for the people to form a state, a society, a country will live. well, that is, the very concept of beggars, you just need it, but in the old sense it collapsed, because if and how about those countries that have appointed themselves as the light of
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winter dyes, that is, they are actually advanced. you look there everything happened. there they turned into democratic werewolves. i would say why a is the foundation of democracy. she is, of course, the power of the people, maybe drinks representatives to be there a number, i will not enumerate, but the main, er, signs. well, i'll tell you one thing. that is, this majority forms the rule, but the rights of minorities are respected. yes, let's say this is the classical understanding of democracy. and what happened in the west now is the dictatorship of the minority and they shut up this majority, or there is an imitation with it, no one considers what kind of democracy it is. this is a perversion. you understand this perversion. eh, so what can i say? and i really do. say i always
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i thought that there was more of a soviet person in me, or that's when the union collapsed yes and a. we wanted change, we wanted something new. and so i remember myself. well, she was pretty young. we were, you know, not only me, and i think, lord, well, what a fool i was sometimes. yes, why, because we were both naive and gullible, we really hoped that the west would be friends with us, what kind of prepared to help us? that is, we believed all the hypocrisy that fell upon us for the first time when i was appointed minister of social protection. that is the most difficult time. uh, late 1991. it was just here on january 15 november uh-huh actually. today we have today 17.90 first means it's already worth 31
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years ago, huh? and when horror came to me, my classmates, who i am an electronics engineer, and i finish with them and my guys, all the scythe students worked in it in boxes in others, everyone began to close everything began to collapse. all were yesterday. they were democrats. everyone wanted change, and today they were left without anything without understanding that, and in this horror and chaos, but they became when i saw how to tell you. the new owners are those who felt like new owners, the international monetary fund, the world bank, which opened the offices of high officials with their feet. i remember that they came to me as a minister and began to offer there, well, in fact, if these are the recommendations, then this means in fact. i divided by 10, what did they say? i realized that, in fact, it’s close to extinction, and there are not only mines, but
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high. i would say high production, so well, even the tv was made military-industrialists wanted us to rivet pans, highly qualified working class personnel were taken to be degraded and thrown into europe from there dirty primitive technologies, leaving only this high intellectual it. yes, it's already, to be honest, i kicked out of the office and said that i uh, i uh don't come anymore. it's impossible, but you said, i was in a democratic position. after all, for the first time i expressed in russia and left the government. this is precisely from the democratic government, when i saw that the bank is like this, that is, the reform in the economy does not correspond to the victims, in fact, due to the greatest social
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human losses, this can happen, then there is no balance, and because they did not hear me. i left the government. that is, at that time i was in the opposition, it just became democratic from the government to yeltsin and, let's say, well, then, so i was, you know, that is, i was in different positions. i was their putin in opposition at one time. yes, we are with him for the first time the first woman, which was walking. yes, as a presidential candidate, just when he was elected for the first time, yes, yes, therefore, uh, well, i have my own understanding of justice. such a luxurious biography, what do i want? this is where it gets a little deeper. yes , look, you were still a people's deputy in the soviet union yes, a people's deputy yes, 89 years old. minister and chernomorte, if the government is a deputy of the state duma, come but look, this would
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then be, perhaps i was a minister at the same time, and i was a minister there for only 2 1/2 years, and at that time, yes, just like a minister in kaluga she was also elected a deputy. that is, i was in two capacities and there were also commissioners for human rights. yes, just recently, you know, after i left. uh, vot resigned from the government. that is, this was a voluntary departure, that is, a resignation. i have not been an official for a long time. it 's hard for me to be an official. i'm a very free person, it's hard for me. i can't just obey. i need to be convinced that if i agree, i believe in what they tell me, i must do it, so i time to vote. well, i deliberately thought through suffering. i must believe in it. i left and i was there for a long time . well, as a free police, it's true, i was on a voluntary basis headed the councils under and yeltsin. social on some issues, that is, there
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was an alternative, and then, after the presidential elections, when vladimir vladimirovich invited me. well, it was all on a voluntary basis and for the first time. after such a long break, that is, consider this the beginning of the ninety-fourth year, when i left in the fourteenth year, that's two. how long has it been 320 years? yes, just 20 years later. i returned to the state structure. yes , an institution, since there was a unanimous proposal from both sides for me, both from human rights activists and from the president, to head this institution. it was a historic event for me, and march of the fourteenth year. in the morning he invites me to the state duma and approves me there. in what authorized rule of a person after dinner, i'm going to the kremlin for a historic event, when the agreement on the crimea was signed and my first trip was precisely in the crimea because. well, so many
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questions arose at once that i had to do this right away from the spot in my career. well, look, you ran for president in 2000. yes, since we have already touched on this topic, but let's say that everyone would, but such hopelessness, but still i don't want to involve you in women's change, right? well, please, but i would like to draw an analogy. surely you followed the elections in belarus in 2020. and for me personally it is clear, how, as a person with such experience, well we listed yes, only some of the positions that you were in and how a person with such experience and knowledge can apply for the position of president well, the presidential post, but here's how our e fairy allowed me to go to the polls with such a store of knowledge as she has, i can't understand this, well, you see, two categorically different situations and candidates. here. alexandra, what do you
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think about it? i don't want to impose my opinion, and yet it's not about the genes. you know, it’s very difficult for me to knit some kind of opinion, so i know, we you weren't told about one very important consequence in which, but i started i started a master at production when all my classmates asked for it. i said no. i want to work in production, and she worked at the factory for 12 years and started as a foreman. eh, these taught me, they taught us at the institute, thank you. god not only solder, but also welding there, uh, you understand, i would work not only with my head, but with handles, yes, that is, i also had a workshop. i have from all at first 120 men very much i will tell me the girls there uh, a little more for 20 years. yes, it was not just that you were respected somewhere. at first, i ran the construction for them in six months. here is the character. you yourself passed, do you
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know from the ground? you know what heavy production is, dangerous production, you are in the midst of people, you do not come off the ground. you pass, you gain quality gradually, this experience, a person understands, no matter what gender you are, a woman, a man, well, thank god we have two sexes. we do not believe in any 99 transgender people and will never have this without a doubt. quality even matters personality. and what do you have in your soul, and what can you offer people, and what can you convince them of, and you can see people in something, if you yourself lived it, felt it, realized it, thought it through, yes, then people can believe and therefore never aspired to politics. i want to tell you that i was a wonderful exemplary wife when my husband was hired to serve. i took a small child and followed him. she lived in the stove, she boiled clothes
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on kerosene gas in a barn. well, and so on and so on. and by the way, fried cutlets very well cutlets. i love more my cutlet, my favorite food, that is, you know, yes, one never interfered with the other. that is, you understand, but i always understood for me how a woman has always been more important than this family and a child, a small child should be next to her mother. mom is no nanny, no one will replace it, and it has always been a priority, so i didn’t strive. i didn’t think that fate would endure this policy for me, it happened, that is, i didn’t aspire to this career. it happened , it happened, it happened, but never in life nothing happens by chance, that's it. uh, so you have to. but this is your destiny and your cross. yes, carry it somehow you understand. that's how it happened. as for the madam, and tikhanovskaya will now recently accept somewhere on tv. well, he
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's so a little irritated with the new one, you know, yes, probably, the fact is that i don't think that it is she who decides what is understood. it was decided for her that it was necessary and, uh, but her husband was sitting. well, this can somehow be such a substitute. ah, but she fell for it and now, probably, she has entered the role, but i it seems to me that it's not even worth talking about this person at all, in my opinion, well , everything was blown away there. here, in my opinion, there is no future, no matter how pumped up, that is, to be honest, this character is absolutely not interesting to me. i don’t see even the slightest political future there, so can they have more interesting opinions, yes, alexander’s sufficient elections in belarus yes, with us it’s
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always not just a day of voting for a certain person. this is a choice of further development path, well and geopolitical vector, therefore, a favorite moment for trying color revolutions. naturally, the protest in russia, well, let's say it's exactly the same . so, if nothing works out with our countries during the electoral period, yes, then why does the opposition not change tactics or, after all, elections have always been and will be the most vulnerable place for manipulation. that's your opinion, and you know the elections. but as a pretext, as a pretext, they appear in the political technological cynical strategies of western strategists. always those vulnerable revenge is there through which you can carry out color revolutions to put your own. eh, let's say dolls. well, in the sense of their followers and so on and so forth. that is , you understand these technologies, if earlier in a number of countries,
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when this was still happening, and they, for their part , were not ready for him, but then we learned to analyze it. we see this trend, which went from there, there, and so on and so forth, therefore, the most important thing, when you see a trend, yes, but in time to react to it in such a way, that is, work ahead of the curve, so that, let's say, plans these guys didn't come true, so i think we're pretty. i think your lessons are serious. yes bugs work on the bugs produced produced lessons. eh, let's say i drew conclusions. we also do not sit in vain and what is my appearance. uh, as chairman of the central election commission. they are not random either. this happened after a very serious conversation with the president. and since well, he and i have known each other for a long time , he knows my pros and cons, which is something of a sin. uh, i
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come all the time saying something unpleasant, yes, well, apparently useful and e yes, and er, here we immediately began. yes, you understand this, well, the experience of a politician. i was in all guises of legislative for executive power. i created a lot, that is, i earned money for the development of civil society. that is, he is much an incarnation, which allows me to form some kind of strategy. yes and a at the same time, that is, here you are. i understood, you understand, that the main conclusion with which i had to see my colleagues and my colleagues yes at the central election commission, we, despite the fact that we are 15 people, all representatives of different parties , self-sufficient people with different views. we are unanimous. that's unanimous on the fundamental issues of development. what does it mean? this means
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who is the main judge for us? who are we working for? what are we working for where? what would be the light of the west or someone to whom, maybe nobody can wait? we work, the main judge - this is our voter our people, and if they trust us. so the elections, if they believe the results of the elections, if they believe that the results are reliable. that means we completed their task and it is on this that we are working on huge mistakes. that is, what was wrong, what needs to be changed. and we have set this task as a whole, so that trust does not grow from year to year. natural trust real trust hard work our hardest electoral system is very complex. i don't have vertical leverage there to force it. uh, we don't have anyone. all our commissions there consist of half
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different parties. there with representatives of the housing committees of the society, there, well, and so on. e different organizations of officials according to the law we have to. something there was also no more than half. that's no more than half the party. and we are with them up to six percent no more. yes, that is, we have a commission. the lower the level of the precinct replaced people, the same 100,000 commission is absolutely a cross section of society. that's what kind of society such a commission. that's what you have here is your neighbor your brother? and so on, here they are all in the commission. and it was very important. you see, i realized that the main thing is incredible patience, the ability to find compromises, reach consensus and the ability to persuade. if you want to spend your laziness, it should convince you at the level of the central electoral commission -
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this is at the level with the regions. we still have a federal state. i just can't appoint someone. no, if they have their own power to legislate, if they have executive power, and it is necessary to find an acceptable mountain on the chairman, who is already at their level as a subject. here again, different members of the commission from different parties must throw off complex complex structures. and with all this here is democracy and complexity, how does society structure the ability to draw lines? to what, to maximize openness and transparency, we say you guys are the opposition, what did we do? yes, do not tear your open doors. if you want to check, go we have created all the conditions for full-fledged observation in any country in the world. this is not the case, a multi-stage system of control and surveillance, not a single western country of a tenth share can withstand the control
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that we have in how it goes in our partners. yes, democratic yes, let's say so. here just a few words. i do not want. eh, a very long touch. yes, but it's still 402 million americans who voted by mail out of 150 that's, well, as a professional you can estimate the scale and 8 million deprived of the right to vote a complete ban on international surveillance in 17 states and they have criminal liability. e for the approach. closer than 200 meters to the polling station. yes. here i really like you, in fact, not everywhere, but there are in the states that define observations in this way. here in this situation. yes. uh, maybe it makes sense for us not to pay attention at all to all these conclusions of international osce missions, that the bse yes, and in principle forget about
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it, like a nightmare and focus solely on domestic electorates. well, we have, of course, also allied bodies, there are the cis and observers, those who are objectively suitable, they can be invited, and let's speak frankly. why should we feed the people who mandatory their imprisonment. we know 10 years ahead. so let's do it. you see, we have already become do because. you know, if i say, when i said everything, that so, lord , we will be like that. well, i think, well, fool, naive in the early nineties. yes, but listen, now it’s okay, then we didn’t know much. yes, here i am now, well, from the height of that experience, that we have gone through these 30 years, when everything fell into place, when i throw off all the masks, when we see the price of freedom of speech. here is the western symbol of freedom of speech - this is julia anasana. yes, when we see human rights in the form of diktat. uh, sorry uh. well, i do not know
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perverts. well, honor the dictates of perverts, yes, that is, these are anomalies, pathologies, dictatorial normal, when you even have to be embarrassed to be a normal person. this. i never shine , you know, when we already see all this, one must be absolutely or not want not to hear not to see this in order to continue talking about some western values. yes, in that you initially see how they yes and defend it, yes. or you just have to be a notorious bastard, or but i don’t know , or or but a reasonable person is open. though honestly who wants to see, he sees everything, in fact, what is happening. well, since we have been at the cis level for a long time, we have developed our own standards. we offered them to you, yes, that is, these are these two. er, they've been pointed out to these double standards many times.
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well uh, you understand what to take with the organization, we even see the united nations organization take the import take all the international organizations in fact they are all american dictates. well, let's say publicity. he is now more than ever manifested or will be a skill, in your opinion in our opinion, here we are. here is my how it is the golden billion. well, we don't care about everyone else, now it 's already seven. yes, 8 billion. here we are alone and we will be of you, like vampires, to suck out your intellectual capabilities, your resources, any resources. we will live for you. and you excuse me, you are dying, you are degrading as you like, we do not need you. that is, if you take the essence of all these beautiful words and chips. that's exactly what she is. and if it is our way, then you have a chance to be there as a half- rule vassal, but to be or we will destroy you here is the organization. and you look like all organizations. now they're playing along. we do see.
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it makes no sense to cast pearls in front of sorry, there is no point in throwing anything; you have to proceed from the interests of your people, your national traditions, cultural history and modern challenges for ta that need to be overcome in order for the country of the society of the state to develop, all this is the main thing, and here you need to be very honest and strong and have fortitude. and sure he does and find common ground. most. main instead in order to quarrel over trifles inside to unite on the main thing, and then decide on the nuances, so now, at least, this trend is more and more with us, it is gaining strength. and you are working on it. we have long understood that even here from our experience. yes, i did a lot, well, i communicated on all platforms with many international organizations in general, including
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human rights organizations. what i noticed, not even with sadness, but with sadness, but an incredible degradation. here are not only international institutions, but those who are accustomed, they know spoiled, they once spoiled, and this led to degradation from the fact that they have little monopoly on the truth. here they come. they begin to teach they broadcast. and we, opening our mouths and widening our eyes, listen yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, you understand, and when it has passed, here comes the insight well, they would give us a good floor, you see, we began to shake off and we saw. and what is behind this? what is really behind this? and it turned out that they believed this truth in the last stations, that is, behind beautiful phrases. this is the human rights club that they drove us in the right direction, but
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so did many others. excuse me, all sorts of chips, in fact. this is a way to ensure a wonderful existence. all of europe prospered for many years at the expense of our energy resources. well, actually, the quality of life has been raised. well, let's try it differently now, but they don't want to admit it. what, what turned out to be the trouble, they forgot how to reasonably put aside their point of view, as soon as they begin to make some claims to you, but you can’t take me with your bare hands with my experience. yes, and right there, for each of them, i begin to reasonably refute their position, what is happening. you know, i've watched it get lost many times. they are simply lost, because they have a narrow-mindedness and dogmatic thinking, which is now being rolled over. here, see many politicians leader take at the eu level and this is the
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european commission and so on and so forth. she taught them. it is reasonable to convince people that i am wrong, and when you begin to present a different point of view to them. they were all the time for and close. what kind of nonsense are you, they have no answers, they get lost and that's it. you start it should be banned, because it's propaganda, that's all. here they have a father for everything. i sadly observe this degradation on the one hand, and then i think, guys, that they earned what they deserved. yes, i fully support, well, as a tough person. i generally think that it should be set. now, if we put a red line on a red line, then it must necessarily not be simply fulfilled. you know, uh, hitting back must become the norm, otherwise otherwise, we'll be groveling all the time. unfortunately, therefore, i cannot help touching, literally briefly, on the topic of my own, because i am very impressed with your position, therefore, on this
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occasion. here in russia they decided not to flirt with traitors. and vladimir putin made an amendment to the accepted one. in the first reading of the law, the possibility of depriving acquired citizenship. yes, i remember your words. we are proud of our men, and let the rats run with their tails between their legs. here is the deprivation of citizenship for those who escaped the draft. yes it is not provided for in the law as a separate norm, it may be necessary to introduce such norms and understand the foreigner to fill, let's say, with a more serious meaning, and not just as a message. you know, i also thought about this for a long time, and we have such discussions going on. here, uh, they did good, and that is, people. well, it's hard, going through everything that happens, just, that
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is, here are many supporters of tough measures, i understand how difficult it is for our president, because such the greatest pressure is what he took at all on some kind of fate. yes, in order to save this russian world. this is ours, that is, the opportunity to preserve their system of values, in general, their own country. yes, as it is, but the very thing is very difficult, when like this everything thickens even inside. we are having this discussion. so i think you know, even in general in the nature of behavior. here, yes, and there, yes. this is what our strength is and our weakness. this is generosity. yes, yes, it’s impossible to be peaceful, the population is our brothers, ukrainians are our brothers. god forbid that tamir population you don’t need to destroy it there, you understand, it’s kind of like that and that’s why everything goes like this. somehow it goes like this, yes, come on, well, why close the borders, it’s now the balts, for whom the entire soviet union worked, they kept
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the language and so on, now they are closing and they say that it’s a privilege to enter europe for us , yes, but and so on. and we openly come to the borders, the guys come to us, that is, we and what is the strength on the other side? that's where the strength lies. the fact that there is an absolute evil, without any without any moral and moral framework. we can afford everything we can openly lie. we can frankly borrow. there, terrorist acts are arranged by anything, because this is an absolute evil without restraints in this, both strengths and weaknesses. yes, that is , this is a philosophical question. i don't want to go deep into it. but strength - is it generosity from strength, or are you weakening yourself? this is generosity, right? that is, absolute evil, when you go to the fullest, the framework is crushed, in the end. what are you going to win? or to what or important it's complicated
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the question is, but you know those measures, it's just that we know with our own, so in everything we have specialists, all of us are specialists, in which we used to be in football in hockey then everyone became specialists in comedy, but now she is all specialists. uh-huh, but the president. i meet him all know the president he has to go between scylla and charybdis the task has been set a lot over the years. he collects the country , it was destroyed before, and he began to collect it, and he knows more, he knows more than we do, well, let's say, like, well, let's say, but some nuances, which exactly dictate here. if so, therefore, in this case, i am not a judge and can
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not. i don't consider myself an expert. here in this area, but really here now, if my personal point of view, as a citizen. i understand that now when everything is manifested. and what we have in our society is also at its zenith and there is enough inside. it's like metastases launched for 30 years. i mean, uh, let's say they broke our mentality, our perception of value. it's like a cancerous tumor, if, uh, you know, there are people who, uh, who are more of all the positions we have know who ran the most now. here are those who under any regime breaks in power were in chocolate, they got everything, and they are the most dissatisfied. yes, this is it. yes it is clear. and uh, here i would not know, i don’t know how to say it, but here i am
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also thinking about it, how to pull it out. here are the metastases. yes, there is a culture. yes? now , gradually, with this, society has begun to react negatively immediately to pathology in art very quickly than before. before, society and authorities closed their eyes now have to respond to the activity of society, in culture, came out science higher education in schools. here, i see that the strength of society, which has thrown itself off. that's 30 years coming. we are on the mountain, actually the song. yes, we need to compromise here. yes, maybe they are right there. and when we saw everything, this is what is happening, and now you know the people, ours somehow straightened up. here are the shoulders, yes, i felt it. this is one's own dignity, national authenticity, civic dignity, and such a craving for justice never that's how we've always had it, but now it's a heightened sense, and i tell my colleagues all the time.

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