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well, as alena already said, wednesday, november 23 the collective security council of the csto will be held. well , how to introduce, probably, such knowledge is small that the dkb is the six countries of the former soviet union, uh, the csto is a military-political union, and in fact, probably at the turn of the end of 2022 , when a special military operation is underway in ukraine when troops from the united states of america appear in poland, lithuania and, in fact, well, the grouping in poland is far from being defensive,

most likely offensive. we need to talk about what is prep now, because if we said, for example, 5 years ago, it is quite likely that we would conduct exercises together with our colleagues, which was repeatedly and, in principle, these were not asked by the political part of the union because publicly of their own military. - political union so. let's talk about the political part, because it's probably the military one. then take effect when the diplomats stop agreeing to sing. so you can start with the dkb now, uh, is it possible to say that this is an anti-nat, or nato is ours, because they say that there is, uh, nato, uh, the country, uh, that is leading this process, it is the united states of america that are actually satellites, but the csto is still presented as an alliance of equal participants. well, i wouldn’t compare it with above at all, because, unlike nato, which bombed

yugoslavia, at least. yes, the csto does not engage in such operations and does not want to do so. rather, it is a force of deterrence and a nuclear umbrella. e for all the countries of happiness, because we remember what happened to yugoslavia, and we know perfectly well. why is this not made from belarus although there were ninety- ninth conversations in the 2000s, because there was a dkb . the nuclear umbrella was broken here, the sun, on the other hand. we see that they are trying to check us now. these are the same missiles in a provocation of various kinds. we see that this weekend was generally the strongest such powerful informational pressure on us. look, uh, then they found some, uh, supposedly kgb agents in russian uh, among russian prisoners, then they suddenly began to

throw in that here, like russia is preparing terrorists to pit nothing inside the csto. means, they understand that it is power. they know they're afraid of lettuce here. and i don't want to unwind it from the third moment. here, look, we have the precedent of kazakhstan in january of the twenty- second year, that is, we are the political part, but we are fulfilling it. although they always and we still need to learn, the border between tajikistan and kyrgyzstan inside the road accident is a problem. m, how about the fact that we began to try to push foreheads. here is the impression, as if. well, right quiet surface. yes, god of grace between the allies, it is obvious that we have in in principle, there is no problem there is no silence and laying. and it is not necessary to begin with this. it is necessary to begin with what does not exist in the world. union without the problems of such unions. no, there has not been and never will be the european union is bursting. at the seams of nato is a soap bubble. i’ll explain why, in order to talk about the

battery, it must be said, to understand nato, it’s a soap bubble, if today a war breaks out in europe, the americans will never fight for anyone, they won’t fight and they won’t fight. all this talk about the nato amendment fifth fourth situation with the missiles that everyone was discussing, this is an obvious proof that biden woke up my words and immediately said that these were not russian missiles. and if there are four more missiles, he also said there. why the united states did not want to. i want to implement this amendment, they want us to fight here, the poles themselves. let the lithuanians fight, let them fight, anyone, but they are not ready to substitute weapons and print dollars on machines, no more than a second moment. this means why the csto is more effective than the csto - this is an exclusively defensive organization. so i want peter to support nato unleashes wars. nato is changing regimes. nato violates international law nato

aggression csto peace. remember how everyone recently clashed at the csto, that it didn’t resolve the situation with armenia and azerbaijan yes, doesn’t anyone understand that the dream of the americans is also from the glasses, so that here we grapple with each other, so that everyone quarrels within the framework of the collective security treaty, so that kazakhstan quarrels from belarus russia e. it means that she quarreled so that central asia would conflict even more with the russian federation in order to split and destroy us on these contradictions. therefore, the main task we will talk about problems, but i must say, the most important thing is the effective organization of the csto once, the second it took place twice. thirdly, this is a guarantee of peace in the entire post-soviet space, just like the russian federation is a guarantee of sovereignty for all post-soviet countries, not only for belarus, now it’s possible to treat it differently,

someone criticizes him, someone criticizes him does not understand does not accept. for god's sake, understand one thing there will be no russia, there will be no sovereignty, neither belarus nor kazakhstan not a single republic of central asia, no matter how much they would not like it, not because they are bad, not because they are not smart, no one will, so there are contradictions. you are right, there are disputes. each country has its own. each country has its own national interests. there is a desire to solve something for yourself, without interfering with some issues, so as not to spoil it, we see it, and therefore as a reaction of different people. countries imposed sanctions, but this must be understood as an absolutely normal process. it needs to be resolved through diplomacy. negotiations and the csto driver likes someone and does not like it. now, in addition to russia, belarus and lukashenka personally, who openly tells the truth at all meetings, including about problematic issues, but note one thing, no matter how he is provoked. it does not allow splitting

relations between countries. there are some contradictions here. he still does everything for reconciliation. even remember the last, when was the participation of armenia, azerbaijan, lukashenka, and that means russia, look how the president behaved wisely one side. he answered very harshly, as it would seem, harshly, on some questions, but on the other hand, if you analyze his answers. what are they talking about guys don't you see that they want to quarrel you? don't you see that they want to beat even more between us in the clinic? sergeevich is in touch with us, a political scientist from armenia and their bachelors, if possible, and mr. bachelors. you hear me? yes, yes, hello mister bachelors. please tell me, uh, these disagreements, which are internal to the csto, how they are perceived from from the point of view of armenia because, well, it seems, like, uh, this is a conflict between the edkb country and azerbaijan, but from the point of view of the armenians and from the point of view of the armenians who are members of the csto. how is it perceived, but,

firstly, i generally do not agree with the definition of internal conflict, that azerbaijan has already become a member of the csto. when it is possible to indicate some documents, unfortunately, i categorically disagree with the experts who spoke earlier. because if, as it were, already at the beginning of the program they said from the tkb is a military-political union, then the members of the union are obliged fulfill the obligations assumed voluntarily, not by force, within the framework of the charter of the tkb and other fundamental documents. mr. bachelors to us , i'm sorry to interrupt my question like this, but i'm just guided by, uh, the speech of our president, which was at an extraordinary summit in the cst, when he said that after all the issue is in the caucasus if it is resolved in russia if two presidents, armenia azerbaijan meet in sochi and if president putin acts as a moderator of this conflict there, perhaps it can be resolved in this way way than by engaging, for example, the european

union by engaging america in nato, that is, wait , maybe we'll rewind a little earlier in september against a sovereign internationally recognized territory. the republic of armenia is committing aggression in the occupied tens of square kilometers of the country, members of the csto, armenia, according to all the rules of the documents established by vtb, seeks help in case of aggression. it is against her from a member of a non-organization against this background to think that, well, a commission headed by a secretary. azerbaijani troops entered the territory of armenia see question here. look here we are now discussing what will be discussed. i perfectly understand the emotions of our armenian colleagues, moreover, armenia was a brotherly country, belarus will be a brotherly country, but they should understand nato and the european union is interested in there being a

war and everything they will do. no matter how much they appeal to nato, the european union, the united states , their dream has just flared up, so that armenia and azerbaijan grapple for a decade in order to weaken russia. this must be clearly understood, and what lukashenka is right about. we are behaving very correctly here. here are all the emotions, we understand, the only way for there to be peace is armenia azerbaijan russia, that's what alkashenka is talking about - sit down and agree, there is no third way. everything else is a war, a war that will last a very long time , nothing good. what does armenia expect from the summit to be held in yerevan ? unfortunately , i don't expect anything serious to happen. it is accepted that they want a zone of tension to be and against russia i agree with this, but the question of who serves as an instrument for creating tension. it serves azerbaijan,

which is an ally of the nato member country turkey, and in this, i therefore wanted to say that a lot will depend for the organization on whether it can become a real military-political union? as, for example, at least with all the minuses of nato i agree that nato is not an ideal organization either. yes, but, unfortunately, the csto needs to grow and grow in order to grow to the level of nato, or it will be such a mix of pass and interpol like this. yes, we will only deal with police functions , some kind of fight against crime of everything else , and the purchase and weapons in russia at domestic russian prices, and that, but this war cannot be considered a political union, so katya about dk is now at a crossroads for me and armenia is one of the most interested countries in what was before it became a real political union, so that the power component of this union develops so that the members of the incoming the organization was sure that no one would have thoughts . e such a thought in attacking the country of members of the

dcb. being sure that other countries of the organization will instead look for reasons not to provide this assistance, unfortunately, yes, thank you for your opinion. thank you. we will get back to you within. gramma andrei ivanovich is, what to add, the biggest mistake that a military man can make is to underestimate the enemy of nato - this is a serious organization nato is an organization with a very large military potential with very tough discipline within the organization. this is the first second united states of america, uh, preparing to fight, on at least two tvds. this is a european theater in action and an asian one. uh, of course, first of all, they will try to do this if it comes to the great war through the hands of their allies and partners. uh, for europe, nato exists in the east, similar organizations are being created, but there is no need already, that is, there are allies there japan south korea australia

new zealand india is already included there. and so to say that the us will not intervene fight yourself. i can't either. they will be american soldiers. let me hear our senator. i would like to point out, well, a few of those uh, positions and moments. well, firstly, uh, not one country that became part of the csto was not going to. it did n’t plan and didn’t say that the organization would be an anti-nat; this is an organization that solves its military-political tasks. uh, within the framework of the csto, a parliamentary dimension has been created. this is purely political. measurement, and the countries of the csto. e in

anticipation of the entire general assembly e. un always gathers in new york and hold conflict consultations compare their positions and agree on support in various issues. i emphasize the political component. tell me there will be a meeting, because before it the diplomats worked absolutely, a very serious preparatory e. work second moment. in a discussion with our expert from armenia, i would like to emphasize that the republic of belarus has always behaved very clearly, openly and decently. here is the design bureau and our president, he always emphasized this, so on we do not need to be offended, we do not need to be offended. now is the moment of truth, so certain problems are aggravated, certain questions. and we should

speak frankly to each other's eyes, but now , in comparison with how it was several years ago, as i see it, new challenges appear, new requests appear, what we hear from our armenian expert. we feel a comfortable time with us, which used to be now, many issues and decisions need to be made much faster, but i would like to emphasize the third point of azerbaijan’s armenian conflict - this bilateral conflict. and here is an attempt an attempt. uh, one of the parties to bring it into our collegiate god wait alex when we talk about the fact that while the countries are now uniting in a single bloc will not survive obviously at this time everyone is looking for allies. we have, in principle, here the battery we are shoulder to shoulder. we are used to realizing that in which case we will support each other with our military problems and

so on, when and as i understand the position of our armenian friends, when they see a threat, and they count on support addressed to them their own. allies, but it does not work out in the form in which they would like the question is whether their offense is legitimate in terms of the basic principles that are laid down in the same charter of the csto or has the csto, upon request, now become something more, but on paper. yes, according to some basic agreements , it does not comply. we simply cannot, we don’t have the tools to behave the way the same armenians would like. well, in general, being offended in politics is not constructive and losing on the other hand. i think this is the situation which is discussing. yes, uh, it is being discussed within the framework of the charter that exists here in the akb and

all the necessary steps are being taken, including the trip of the secretary general of the odkb. this is an actionable step, experts are making concrete proposals. and uh, the republic of belarus has long been talking about what it proposed how to act what decisions should be made about this the head of state spoke about this, so that our armenian colleagues here are a clear answer. and so, uh, so that our armenian colleague understands everything that we are doing now in within the framework of the csto, it is aimed to extinguish the conflict, and not to kindle any sharp movements, any sharp statements, or now, if our president behaved differently, russia would behave. in a different way, it will only inflame the conflict between armenia and azerbaijan, our president and belarus have always occupied this composition, so that there is peace and a second remarque. why should a colleague understand me? i agree with him nato is a

serious rival. i will never say something not serious, the main rival, who now has both weapons and millions dollars. i said about something else that they still want to always fight with proxy. here in ukraine, they succeeded. so that they were instructors there. mercenaries, but ukrainians, ukrainians , fooled, fought for their interests with russia, that's what they want, they want the same thing in europe. why does he learn more, why will poland have 300,000, an army? after some time? this is ok. poland itself will not do everything at the expense of america. why do they want to pray to lithuania for our bullshit. you say why did everyone start to criticize to throw that china did not strike when the secretary of state sang there, it was the americans who would have dreamed of war. yes, they want to, and they supplied weapons there further, andrei petrovich, from a military

point of view. yes, we argue a lot here about the effectiveness or inefficiency of its dkb. here are our viewers. the dead block is here. well, the beanies are from my point of view. first, i can kind of agree with some of the speakers before me. it seems to me in front of me with some. as they say, i am not ready to agree due to the fact that here, of course, it is necessary to rise above the problem of what is happening in armenia today by and large . yes, this confrontation between azerbaijan and armenia is not a problem today. it has deep roots. but why exactly this problem arises today, first of all, we know that a special military operation is taking place today, by and large. she's going according to plan. well, with a little twist. let's put it this way, yes. here, respectively, unleashing the conflict and stretching russia into different regions. can have a big impact on it, as political as economic, that is, in fact, it will lead to even more isolation.

what kind of insulation? well, firstly, we know that, uh, azerbaijan is very close and in fact one state, two peoples, two states, together with turkey, is turkey today. this is a very serious player in this region. and of course, if this player steps up against the russian federation today , this will bring very serious consequences, not only political, not only economic, but, above all, military this is the strongest state that has a serious fleet, which today is actually the second army, in the nato bloc uh-huh and the question of creating a turkic world. today is very sharp and therefore, in my opinion. that is precisely the decision of the political aspects at this moment. he is very, very important. well, you see, i did n’t specifically say at the beginning that the csto is a military-political union, and for sure, now it is becoming political, well, in the first place, because

if the presidents meet to talk about what's going on they are ministers of defense relatively speaking, because well, here the plans are real. yes , these arrows, which are clearly drawn, but the political decision will still be the main one, of course, but then if we go further, then turkey is not easy, as they say, the founder or successor of the tula peace is primarily the states of the ananat bloc, and here i am i do not fully agree with those who say that the united states will never go to war in order to really kill i concepts awareness. listen, in order to understand the concept , you just need to look at their main operational-strategic operational documents, where everything is clearly spelled out. at what stage, when they have everything, then they and 17 of the seventeenth year they are already preparing for a large-scale war, according to all documents. it goes on, uh, it goes on a limited yet, yet regional scale. it is

not yet large scale. well, it is the unleashing of a large-scale conflict that is the very goal. the only thing holding back nuclear weapons nuclear conflict, so that there was no only thing to contain, if there were no nuclear weapons, you are right, it was already blazing. of course , the whole look turned out. look, they say, you're not a dead bloc in kazakhstan a dead bloc worked, but it worked, and in fact, er, the result turned out to be positive, because today the presidential elections were held in kazakhstan. yesterday we got the results of the presidential election today. this is a political component to you. and you know already, looking back at the events of six months ago. yes nine months have probably passed, but it seems like it was a few years ago, but here is the solution. hmm. and this operation in kazakhstan was more military or more political. i create points of view, i can say that our contingent from the republic of belarus performed a purely military function

; here is the arming blocking. that's the implementation of support there, here, the arriving troops. here but any issues related to restoring order in the country of assistance e, c. eh, the patrolled street of our case was not accepted and did not accept the military personnel of the entire continent of my creativity who arrived there, therefore we arrived here, took the facility under guard and thus freed the units of the armed forces of the republic of kazakhstan in order for them to assist with internal troops. you couldn't cope without a contingent of departure yourself, here are your kazakh colleagues, after all, this is political. i think that's exactly it was necessary to demonstrate the determination and readiness of the strength of the dkb means. you make that decision and demonstrate. that we are able to help our neighbor sing, well, in terms of a political solution. yes, a trip to the

state secretary of the csto to the border between azerbaijan and armenia, after all, is akin to the introduction of a peacekeeping contingent. yes, ours didn’t shoot there, but the appearance of a political one, well, relatively speaking, the decision on the appearance of the military in kazakhstan and , uh, the decision of the political appearance of the head of the dkb on the border. after all, they are related. let's first let's see, a colleague from armenia spoke about the border. about some escalation in order to determine whether it is necessary to introduce a contingent or not, it is necessary to monitor the investigation and identify what is happening there? let's be frank. here, within the framework of the csto. this conflict could be resolved, because until 2000 azerbaijan was a member of their body and it was proposed that the minsk group was a model of how to do it , both the president of belarus and the president of russia spoke about it. why are these seven districts that no one lived there?

why not take this process and do it ? no, armenia recognized and most likely will recognize the territorial integrity of azerbaijan and our task here, if not the csto, since this is not a conflict within the csto is to ensure the implementation of those november agreements, which, by the way , both azerbaijan and armenia assumed obligations and so our task here is to save to ensure the territorial integrity of azerbaijan without military conflicts. uh, security for the armenian ethnic population in the territory of azerbaijan so that they are full-fledged. and azerbaijan and you open the border , demilitarize the border with azerbaijan and

turkey and make a normal transit. armenia today suffers the most from its sometimes selfish actions, when it thinks that it will decide something in this way. she doesn't decide anything. she has two borders closed. she loses a lot of money on transit. well, there is one more important thought the fact is that what distinguishes the dkb from us udkb does not violate international ones. so treaty and do not violate international law. what about when he allegedly intervened in the situation with kazakhstan, what we were talking about now, when the legally elected government asked about it. yes, unfortunately nato intervenes in conflicts when they are not asked to do so, who asked them to come to iraq in violation of his resolution, who asked to intervene in syria, the legitimate president asked that no one would ask for bombing when we criticize. icd let's do not forget this important thing, someone maybe wants the tkb to act like nato in violation of international law, this is so no, this is our strength, not

weakness, so that we even observe holy let them not comply, but we are humanly moral in the international world, the whole can be seen watching us. they see that we do not betray, that we do not deceive, that if we do something, this is consistent with the law, this is required by the peoples of these countries, where the csto comes, therefore everything is legal with us, therefore, when they talk about the dcb, the dcb is weak doesn't work like that how to. and how should one act to unleash wars? what did this lead to in the middle east. my colleagues will confirm that they hate americans. now they are 20 years old, their 30s are deceiving. they deceived cancer, they deceived afghanistan, they deceived those who believe them no longer believe them. there are also their allies, who once saw the kurds. how many of them were deceived in iraq they told you we will make our own state, where is the kursk listen a. here on the eve of each summit of that dkb. well, someone constantly prophesies that one or the other will leave. ah, organization. yes

and so, when pashinyan convened this extraordinary online summit, which, by the way, can anyone explain, in general, why was it necessary to gather online so urgently and communicate with each other? that's why he planned to react in terms of policy diplomacy cos. this summit. it's already here too. that's right. yes, of course, it is absolutely. so uh, i mean we don't have to pick up. here is this thousands thrown to us, that in the organization there are some very serious. uh, the contradictions that it is allegedly falling apart, that someone is going to leave no the republic of belarus has always supported the csto and will support it in the next. we have been chairing this organization for a year. i am sure that when we chaired, we always strengthened this military-political, uh, the union

, and the convening itself, well, every country has the right, within the framework of the charter, to request, uh, such a meeting. you know, basically useful. uh, such discussion meetings, but very important. what kind decisions are made, and the decision must be prepared. well, why even in spite of everything here, uh hmm as they say, bilateral yes, misunderstanding and graters of individual states. uh, they still can't leave our tight circle. well, colleagues have already said that this is a powerful tool for ensuring the security of the military security of each of the states. uh, there is armenia yes, you can understand the emotions, you can understand the claims, but she won’t be left alone either, and it doesn’t make sense for her to go beyond the db and no matter how now there is no dagestan in tajikistan

watched the side, as if after the last conflict, too, they are on their own. in general, they will not provide their security, so the organization , in my opinion, has the potential only to strengthen for collapse. i don't see, maybe we need some new level of cooperation. maybe we really do not have enough tools today to cover these security needs of all members. i think a tool. all have been created in front of us, indeed, the presidency of belarus to the csto. we know that our country has never formally treated how the work of the organization is constantly put forward initiatives, serious deep initiatives. even on may 16, when there was a meeting of the heads of state of the state clinical hospital a , the president of belarus issued a number of very serious, uh, initiatives, and most likely, during our tenure, it will just happen. uh, the possibility of implementing these initiatives, and given

that not everything is going smoothly in the organization, then, most likely, belarus will have to make some specific decisions. even complex decisions can be to carry out most of all, as the initiator of these decisions, andrei ivanovich let's understand. here, as if the question now we will return to our expert from kazakhstan already. revenge in general external pressure on the member countries of the state security committee armenia kazakhstan tajikistan what is it that is, is it there, here we are talking about armenia yes, and it’s possible, sometimes there is such a story that, uh, isn’t it always hmm, maybe this is really an internal problem of armenia, but and as if there is no influence of america and europe, you know, we are not looking there, but a year ago we they said that the most dangerous region is central asian, because afghanistan was incomprehensible. how will they behave, but a year later it turned out that under the most powerful pressure, it turns out, just the eastern european region.

this is belarus and part of russia, which is located here. first of all, yes, armenia, but armenia is such a kind of afghanistan, the united states revealed in order for the bilateral yes, the two sides are there, and it is difficult to speak of external pressure. but we were really under this pressure. i am aleksey sergeevich also spoke about poland about militarization. poland and here, too, one must be very careful. it is not necessary to look at these 300,000 servicemen anymore. i will explain why how many populations we have, how many mails of the population, when there are 300,000 in poland, they will only catch up with our level of the belarusian half of the population, and look at the americans. they are already setting up permanent bases there. they are warehouses with weapons and equipment. with a supply of ammunition, fuel and lubricants and other ports, airfields. all this is being prepared. look at this. we will not see something more serious behind our neighbors. let's. let's alexey sergeevich our expert from kazakhstan tatyana viktorovna mormontova tatyana

viktorovna joins us. the question is this. here. tell me, please, the attitude towards the dcs in the first place after the january events in kazakhstan is the csto a savior or the csto an organization that simply helps on the world stage? so. and tell me, please, i can hear normally well, and i lost a little sound. you can hear me now. yes, let's do it again question. so, look after the january events in kazakhstan, the csto is a savior organization, or a lifesaver on the world stage. well, you know, i don't quite like asking for the term organization, but here it turns out that kazakhstan was really turning into a difficult situation into a difficult situation, but this is by no means a

lifesaver. we acted according to international standards. and here it is necessary to distinguish between the concept of the world order sandpacking and ps building and worldbuilding we asked for help in just the same in security functions. uh is to free the unit and uh, first alert, that's really the problem. and now competent authorities are really working with this, which are increasing uh, increasing combat capability uh, the number of units that are able to give adequate uh, adequate uh, an adequate response to well, any actions, but at the moment when kazakhstan asked for help from kb it was clear that those units of primary combat readiness that we have, they may not be enough for astana and for alma-ata understands that, uh, the situation was the most difficult in alma-ata, but i was in astana,

i perfectly understand, i saw and knew that situation, and uh, the army of the dkb allowed me to transfer units from astana and begin the cleansing process. remember, it was in january that many people said that they say the csto would enter the territory of kazakhstan and not leave, they say there were such fears. how did you perceive this situation? uh, there were such views, i can say that just the same in the january events. and i have commented on this many times. answer. e answer, for example, to the same question for the kazakhstani media, i can say that we constantly clarified this issue, huh? we told the public and fearful people that there is no threat to national security here. and here we need to, uh, give the opportunity, uh, to the military to do their job. to do this, we need

help and support tatyana viktorovna, from outside, for example, armenia has some expectations, for example, from the fact that the csto will provide protection in belarus due to the fact that we are still we are in many ways a peacekeeping platform both for the armenian of the azerbaijani conflict and for the russian ukrainian one. and what about this summit, does it mean anything for kazakhstan or does it mean nothing? well , firstly, one cannot in any way say that it does not mean anything, again, we see that the level of instability in eurasia today is unprecedented, therefore, it is necessary to use any mechanisms, any opportunities, any multi-level, multi-speed processes in order to stop destabilization inertia, therefore, it is really important here what will happen within the framework of the csto, any important processes that will give, well, the slightest chance to appease. uh, that very

unstable situation. thank you very much, that is, viktorovna, in the eurasian space, the key phrase that the expert said, and with this phrase it all begins, who is interested in peace in eurasia, only we, because we live here, the same applies to europe, who is interested in having peace in europe the world we are, because we are close to europe, why? i say when you asked the question, if an external fact, if actions on the fucking fucking post-soviet space, of course there is and will be with one goal to blow them up from the inside, so that there is a belt of instability around russia, no one interferes for other purposes, any mediators from the west in talking about peace in central asia, this is this conflict even more make any mediators. the west to reconcile ukraine and russia is just that the war was blazing these words of the president, so that, for example, ukraine is russian, this issue is over, as he said. he can be wanted, only in one

if ukraine were independent and could negotiate directly. she can't have no independence. the same goes for whether they like central asia or not, they should understand. we want them to be calm, because if they flare up, then it flares up with us, and the fact that now this is the most unstable region is absolutely, that is, they talked a lot about the fact that our colleagues from nato are preparing everything is spelled out for them like the notes. yes, when, why, and why, obviously, they have not been one year and not a single foreshortening considered the possible development of events, i have a question. and what we, sergey anatolyevich, as our military, in principle, set up, we understand that nato is most likely, and they set up an aggressive offensive for us correctly. but this operation, or what? what's defensive about what? well, listen, europe

exploded europe from our military, which they set up within the framework of the csto and set up. when we performed the task, we clearly knew that we have certain, uh, rights and powers, on which we perform the duties of no other more extended functions of authority, no one gave us. here is the first. this was the first such task - there are no creations, the republic of belarus outside the country. it was the first time again. we arrived, studied the situation, and then only in cooperation, when you leave, there is no return. upon arrival, well, in fact, the task was clear, but the learning was here, it seems that you had a situation, but worked out in the exercises. no. we regularly conduct these exercises and representatives of the armed forces always take part in them and doing math. she was somewhat similar. well, there, usually, the topic implied that some state invaded the territory

of some state from the bkb countries and we provided assistance. here there was a slightly different internal conflict, but nevertheless, the issues of introducing a grouping were worked out. and immediately the question of immediately withdrawing it from there is being worked out, and not just arriving and staying there at the end to the end , always with questions of such a grouping in one or another territory, questions are being worked out immediately order is planned, so we had various kinds of exercises and are now going through exercises. they all have very different themes, depending on the territory of which state they all gather and, therefore, hone certain situations. here, uh, what is more emphasis on protection, of course, of course, always the question is to protect the territorial value, either of one’s state or the state, than it is, as it were, the protection and liberation of the territory within the boundaries that they are. no further developments needed. there, they pumped some of their territorial resources

, their territory to us. why do they have nothing, no gas, no oil, no hell. why do we need them? and they are constantly watching our territories. therefore, we always defend ourselves, the impression is that an armed conflict is inevitable. i mean, you know somewhere you're probably right. on the one hand, today, if we look at the two blocs that we are considering, this is nato with the center on the one hand. well, let's say the center of power in washington is the united states and the second bloc is military-political it is the csto with the center of power in moscow in the russian federation based on this, it is already easy to understand that the fate of our bloc, first of all, an accident, it is decided in the course of a special military operation. if something does not go according to the plan that we spoke about above, then no one will be with the weak. this is the law, this is the

law of politics, this is the law of logic, this is the law of life, then, accordingly, we know that the flock is moving to another, so the collapse of this block can inevitably occur. on the other hand, if still a special military operation will achieve its goals, which, well, are quite complex and philosophical, let's say, yes, then the collapse of the bloc will not happen under any circumstances. yes, it will weaken, and irreparable consequences will occur, but at the same time, the bloc will maintain its stability. now a colleague. here he compared nato and the csto opposed. but in general, utkb, and our nato colleagues somehow perceive or have already written off, and the emphasis is all and have their own interest. that's probably, looking at ketai. he is considered the main rival and main adversary, and they say with us

already. well, everything is clear. they want to deal with russia, and then with china, so, here. i say, maybe they don't care about anything. and if they did not count and the opponent would be lately. and for them it is the center. and i also want to hold a colleague. he said very important words to the whole world. now not only the post-soviet space is looking at a special military operation, russia is looking at the middle east, africa is watching because this is their chance to get rid of colonial dependence, if they will see that russia is able to defend its sovereignty, its independence, the independence of the post-soviet countries, because what are you right about, if russia collapsed, they would not exist. that's what they don't understand. there are some in these countries, so that andrei ivanovich was addressed from russia, i repeated it again, yes, about russia well, let's look at the documents, and the first is the strategic concept over which was adopted in madrid in june of this year, russia

is indicated there, china is indicated and the strategy national us security which was adopted literally only in october. russia china us national defense strategy which was adopted a little later, russia china correctly we are talking about russia being seen as possibly china's allies china - this is the number one goal of the dkb wire. well, russia csto. russia belarus - it's like a single, probably perceived as a whole. but uh, one more thing i wanted to point out. we have never, in principle, considered the dkb, as, moreover, as an adversary, we have been cooperating with belarus for many years, russia, other member countries, vkb, cooperated with nato, interacted , held a joint event, and again we will return to the event, which took place on may 16 of this year. here is the odkb. again, the signals went off. let's stop contacts with nato . there is no answer, that is, they don't need us. we are not interested in them. we want to interact normally. let these be not military

issues, by no means military ones, but there are questions of a humanitarian nature, ecology. uh, drug trafficking, terrorism and so on. yes, he's on these lines, we can cooperate to talk, the more. we will cooperate to talk, so there is less chance of some kind of confrontation between the two organizations. andrey ivan something one of the questions that was. as a matter of fact, which will be discussed on wednesday. this is biological safety, in particular, the biological laboratory that has been created. well , for example, in ukraine, someone says that in other countries of the former soviet union, this is really such a big problem. or it is just one of the questions and it is submitted by a journalist. well know how the icing on the cake is that, well, yes, the lure is such an important event. well, i’m not a biologist, this is one, but the second problem is still there, we saw it. and on the same pandemic and on other issues, and since biological safety is already being introduced as a concept in the new concept of national security of the republic of belarus, it means

that there really is a need to pay such increased attention. sing the question is such a csto and sco. here, what kind of cooperation could it turn out to be, so what is the sco? will help us? like this a simple journalistic question, firstly, uh, when sedin ping and vladimir putin, uh, met in an online summit a year ago, uh, the people ’s republic of china expressed such a desire to be an observer in the framework of the sc’s second step in the shanghai cooperation organization. maybe the security element is presented in the wrong form, but i remind you that this organization was formed as an attempt to prevent the escalation of the situation in central asia at the time of this complicated afghan issue. and, of course, in my opinion, there is a possible way

of interaction with the dkb. and what about a deeper way, because we have the task of a common eurasian security system, what nato is doing nato is trying to deploy military actions such a proxy war in eastern europe to separate western europe from russia uh, at the expense of our security the second moment drugs terrorism, who did bin laden herself come up with? it is clear washington igil, who came up with our task here, so that on the territory of the republic of belarus on the territory of the whole the eurasian space was a security zone without conflict, so that there was no what was happening in syria in iraq, what they want to destabilize iran is sick of that, many nato members, let's also say they are not enthusiastic about nato membership and well, they are looking for, for example, erdogan is the same alternatives, well conflict greece turkey cyprus we do not forget that within the western world

there are territorial issues. it's all there and on the odkb and found it right away. uh, today he looks like an alternative to this western domination, if we will make qualitatively effective mechanisms for responding and ensuring security, and we will be attractive. and moreover, we will tighten the image under this . i guarantee that the odkb will only expand on what all the tools are. you say something is missing. the mechanism needs to be devised. uh, firstly, we have already talked about this , but more broad scenarios of cooperation, ttgb, partnership of the day, damn it, are not clearly worked out anymore, there is an observer. here is a dkb about this more than once. they talked like dkb. so in the eurasian union, second moment. this is an inclusion or cooperation along these lines. yes, uh help other holiday countries kb the charter does not provide that you

understand the ab will interact with the sco. this is obvious not because everyone loves each other china has its own national interests - this is absolutely normal. you don't have to wait for some miracles. tired of the enemies of the united states, but what is the logic. this is their reasoning that there will be interaction already underway, first, remember the last congress. e communist party of china and their plans for their army. they are very ambitious of them by the twenty-seventh year, what tasks they set, but this is not the point . china is extremely unprofitable for the defeat of the russian federation against nato. why do they perfectly understand that this will immediately increase the confrontation between the united states and the next rival of the united states of america and this is china the same the same and india the same and other countries of the medieval region, but they will be. as my colleagues said correctly, look at what russia will be like in the coming years. language, the stronger we are belarus russia is

a union state, the more effectively and quickly cooperating countries will be with us, including success, a special military operation. it also depends on this. they will look strong always cooperate. and by the way, i can’t do anything about the war. you know, how to avoid war is one way no one else came up with anything else to be even stronger. here is the only way - it would be a stronger simple example. you go out into the yard, there are hooligans, three people are beaten by gopniks whoever they beat first, a bespectacled me so hunched up who comes out or a fit young man who doesn't know martial arts. the same is true among states. the only thing is why belarus has not yet been attacked thanks to our army and the military and special services, because they know that they will get diarrhea if we listened to the advisers of the nineties, remove the army and make a small professional army of several thousand to reduce the ministry of internal affairs, we were offered to remove the kgb

said it all. now they say, take it away you don't need it anymore would have attacked already destroyed. andrei petrovich look. we have a lot of news about economic and humanitarian cooperation between belarus and china, but little is said about the military. here can upset some secrets. it fell on sky but it’s still a military uh, yes, it’s technology, but still, from the issues of teaching, there is certainly no theory, firstly, we consider china as a strategic partner not only in political and economic. and, of course, in military terms. maybe it's not as close to us as they are the russian federation with which we have a regional grouping of forces, but nevertheless, that is, you have already settled on the issues of polonaise on the development of other technologies, including unmanned aerial systems, there are a lot of aspects that can be discussed in joint training , military personnel, we had a military

academy for a long time before the pandemic period, we just trained a fairly large number of specialists in various fields, namely the people 's republic of china liberation army cnd people's republic of china that's what i would like to say, e at the moment. we also stopped at china of course, we are holding a lot of negotiations, this is a friendly country, but in this aspect, when we stop and it was rightly said that they are trying to divide us and deal with us in stages today, this is the russian federation with belarus yes and so further, then it can happen with the people's republic of china against the background, taiwan, in principle, the scenario is very similar, and then pump up weapon. we are everything else. now an attempt is being made to see exactly. china the only thing for today so far, unfortunately, i have chosen the position of an observer, what is happening? he still can’t figure it out, and here we are faced with such problems, why do i say that training is

joint with the chinese and so on, what if before for us the art of war, military strategy, yes, it lived precisely on the fact that we had a socialist system, everything was for the front, and today everything is needed for the victory to look, probably, from a slightly different angle, that is, always the art of war is military science. it serves, like politics, the one who well, the economy and, above all, the class that is guiding. and if you really look at what constitutes china and other countries that are now uh located to the west, then here we are facing exactly what the military is. unfortunately, today they still use the military strategy of that soviet period. yes, but the time has already changed and it is necessary to serve exactly the class that is guiding from here. they say that there are negotiators there , however. we are faced

with the fact that it is not necessary to change the interaction between the military component and the political component. and, of course, the economic component, perhaps this is where this caution stems from. china's misunderstandings of what is happening. it seems to me that, uh, first of all, what 's wrong with his dkb. uh, left his dkb to eat. uh, the connections are very good, they are developing, and the second moment, uh, the political authority is growing, the shanghai, the organization and cooperation. today we talk a lot about political actions and political signals. uh, so uh, it seems to me that uh, here politics is even uh more important for now. and, of course, military-technical cooperation is also developing with individual countries. uh. in my opinion, political

signals are extremely important. here are kazakh experts. so neatly you know there is no speech. she used rhetoric that is accepted. right now in this country. but it’s good to think like this according to faktum and if tkb hadn’t entered kazakhstan in month of january. well, that is, it was the strongest political signal, how to stop certain forces in domestic politics. yes , external factors were involved there, but there was enough internal political that we have now seen in the example more , wait, and the answer, but the guilty one, of course, was immediately found. so, wait for an answer from nato, which will be behind the state. he laid it out in such a way where it could fly and where it flew from and why

it flew, so today we have to talk about how we should focus on strengthening those unions in which, in which the republic of belarus operates, we submitted an application to the sco, it was positively received. with probably soon we will be full members. yes, after that it’s not so fast, according to the csto chairmanship next year, maybe we will be able to use even this factor in our work with this, so tell me why the csto could not help using its potential and not enter kazakhstan that's why we could do otherwise. no, why we could do it, but there were other consequences. and who needs these consequences? eh why? that is,

they did what they had to do at that time, this was the most correct decision. well, this was expected years ago. kazakhstan most likely expected this from us, because we have already talked about the dkb working in accordance with the charter. there are joint tasks. here is one task - to take under protection the objects of the civil war; one of the tasks of the statutory ones is to demonstrate readiness to the deployment of more forces, what in the midst anatolyevich said, that's all it was. because let's talk, but in kazakhstan or not. well , let's talk, let's continue talking about politics. who presides in the vkb, the army. yes, that is, entering kazakhstan precisely through the chairmanship of armenia is the truth of armenia and we must pay tribute to the political leadership of the csto members, which they very quickly agreed upon. here is the adoption of such a decision under the chairmanship of armenia people give

10 seconds. the first is for people to look calmly. we are talking about war today, but he does everything for peace. everyone should know that belarus is doing everything for peace and our military is now strengthening its combat capability so that there is peace, belarus so that people can sleep peacefully, at least a little and believe in our military and be proud of everyone around. i think that this is our common interest in preserving the world, and therefore, for this purpose, you can act with your own selfish interests, including national ones, think about something bigger and global, but i would just like to pay attention to army games take place every year there take part and the chinese and belarusians and the russians than me teaching.