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belarus hello editors club on belarus 1 and belarus 24 e csto summit loud top statements by alexander lukashenko on sanctions that work to kill those who introduced them e, against belarus and russia, as well as further evidence that the united states of america carried out biological experiments on the territory of ukraine. moreover, it is necessary, most likely, by the inhabitants of ukraine. well, and a lot of lies from the west about the current

situation. on our planet, these are the main topics. we will discuss today, as always. there are many guests in our studio. i will introduce them to you dmitry zhukov head of the sb holding it was only a day olga shpilevskoy director of the rtc of the world in belarus vadim head of the knowledge society alexei belyaev head of the department of political science beu candidate of historical sciences and vadim borovik political scientist. good evening. i briefly outlined these topics on we will try today uh, there is another topic to talk about, but if we have time, and so uh ourselves, then dkb in yerevan took part in the republic of belarus armenia kazakhstan kyrgyzstan russia and tajikistan the chairmanship of this organization passed to the republic of belarus motto belarusian presidency such through the solidarity of cooperation towards peace and security. well, the priorities were identified. hmm, the presidency of our country. let me briefly outline if possible settlement of the crisis situation and prevention of

further destabilization in the area of ​​responsibility. the traffic accident has a problem, we all know about this effective positioning in the dkb in the system of international relations through the development of cooperation with international organizations and third countries, that is, the increase in the readiness of the components of the dkb army to perform tasks for the purpose of strengthening military-technical cooperation. well, the last build-up of the institutional. csto's potential information and analytical sphere, well, what is very interesting for us, in particular for the editor's club in general, the situation. here is not a very simple one, we know that some countries that a are members of this organization are in conflict, uh, between themselves, these contradictions cannot be resolved in any way, is there a great potential or potential for this organization and a bright future awaits it or not, but there her

dkb, as it goes along a sinusoid and look. here's to the beginning of 22 years. everyone says - this is a paper tiger, nothing can be there, then e kazakhstani now. yes, everyone said. oh, they turn out to be able to even do that, and there, not only, uh, military deployment, but also how quickly the decision was made against the background of these contradictions, which were already in the twenty-second year. now. uh, the operation of the sv karabaski problems, kyrgyzstan tajikistan, the contradictions between them, reaching the point of armed conflict. everyone again began to criticize the dkb, but those problems that have matured and they were very clearly and understandably stated by alexander lukashenko, uh, they have been formed over the years and are in many ways part of a big one. everything lack, i would call it the imitation activity of the russian federation in the post-soviet space. westerners often attribute some tricky moves to the kremlin. uh, some pro-russian organizations there, but in fact there was none of that. now, if we frankly say, yes,

for russian diplomacy it is post-soviet, the space was e, attention was often paid to it according to the residual principle, even it fell into the gray zone between the foreign ministry and the administration of the president of the russian federation, that is, between smolensk and old square. and in the end, when some kind of shortcoming arose, everyone said, it's not us, it's not well , let's just say it, until recently, until it appeared. ambassador mezentsev dmitry fedorovich then it means now gryzlov boris vyacheslavovich well, we don’t know that for russian diplomats a business trip in one of the countries of the post-soviet space was considered a snare, and from this we understand. what quality was it working plus often the national interests of the same. russia and, respectively, these states were replaced by interesting transnational corporations deeply rooted in this international business. all these problems were accumulating, which were obvious, and on karabakh between kyrgyzstan and tajikistan, they were shelved, brewing, and now a special military

operation has revealed all these problems, aggravated conflicts. on this background. they showed the need to solve them and, as always, belarus takes responsibility in this situation. well, yes, there were problems. we remember, let's admit to ourselves that the leaders of the middle and higher are relatively the highest echelons of the russian federation did not read it necessary to talk, including with us, while , uh, messengers. the west has been working quite actively in recent years, and just there in relation to the russian federation. i just have a question. the last point is to build up the information and analytical potential there. let's just say it as much as possible. look at armenia kazakhstan kyrgyzstan tajikistan non -commercial organizations are already flourishing there. which u have the jurisdiction of the united states of america. there's just trouble with this and how can we in one bundle with these countries to work in this area? no, well, in general, we must understand. unfortunately. here, uh, vadim frantsevich outlined it in the military-political sphere. there are problems within the framework of interaction, vkb.

and from the point of view of knowing ourselves, the post-soviet space is, in my opinion, a blank sheet, because there is very little. in fact, analytical work is being carried out both from russia and from the belarusian side, for example, our diplomacy and to recognize those countries that have suddenly turned into, uh, our equal partners. that is, at for many, the idea of ​​these countries was based on some old soviet narratives that they are all one big people, that we all grew up from one soviet union. in fact , over the 30 years of independence, such global fundamental changes have taken place that today there is a need to recognize each other. discovering each other and, for example, we clashed quite tightly in belarus. we are working with the kazakh embassy here. here, for example, e. kazakhstan has a sincere interest in them being known in belarus and so that the belarusians. eh, they knew about

kazakhstan and the kazakhs knew about belarus, and here they are , for example, working in this regard. you can’t even say about the same russian federation, which somehow leaves these events for later somehow in the background. and about other countries, we do not say at all what we know. today, sitting here in minsk, about kyrgyzstan, for example, and even the same armenia, which is now being presented within the framework of the dcb. one of the main such alarms is safety irritants. after all, there are very few today the contact has been preserved little we know, so certainly analytics. uh, collecting materials today should come out on top plus. what alexander grigoryevich spoke about within the framework of the csto should not be direct military, but also soft power, this is what is called the work of the information space, and this is precisely what the leaders of the largest belarusian media present here are

certainly for. i am sure they will pay attention, because the information work to promote the newspaper cannot be sold here belarusian organization in kyrgyzstan maybe i'm wrong, but i imagine that this is probably our embassy, ​​while there are hundreds of pro-americans, probably what i want to say. look at the president directly. hmm , he almost directly said this, that a member, especially the leader of a strange accident, needs to rise above his petty problems against the backdrop of a global common threat. for all. yes, and look. today we really see that there are conflicts, there are cross-border conflicts. uh, kyrgyzstan, tajikistan , some more. what did the president say, what is needed we must stabilize inside to be in solidarity and remove all these small things that prevent us from speaking as a united front, i am more than convinced that the creation of these points of tension in

the uggb countries. this is part of the us policy to weaken russia, that's for sure. and right here. sorry for this term. and if i would like to believe that the leaders of the cst countries will be able to. forgive me to rise above some small somewhere selfish moments and act as a united front. there are not small, but selfish, but not small, but the question just in another understand, on the one hand. i agree, i also told france that russia lost some of its time and did not pay due attention to the post-soviet space, time has passed, indeed npos have gone there, ngos are absolutely not ours there, not pro-russian ones, they are doing their work. rooted anti-russian. i do not hide it, they work very well in the minds of the people who live in these territories. that is, they change people's minds. this is such a very terrible thing when there really is such an influence active on the consciousness of people, but today the same csto leaders must understand that, and the path to

independence to independence is really the independence of their countries. they have only one through the csto through our alliance, because if they are vivid examples of when the countries of europe or the countries of the united states of america are chosen as allies, they are not allies. they are the ones who absorb these countries and i will say frankly they turn them into such, uh, countries of slaves, yes, which are some kind of raw material, but an appendage that supplies labor for development, therefore, i think that the leaders of the clan, as it were, also understand this very well and are aware of it. and it is possible that, after all, this is a greater force than the money invested there and the businesses that work there to develop the information space. and how does the representative office of the mtr camera in the republic of belarus work? yes, i will say that in this regard we have great opportunities, and the world works on the territory of all the countries that we have listed, of course, it does not work at full capacity, because that many countries do not allow us to work. well,

many are trying to slam - this is a representative office or reduce the funding of this representative office, but no one closes it, because ordinary people have an interest, which is also confirmed by media measurements in the information that we give. and we give it different from all countries in order to have an idea and in order not to get lost. this is the informational human connection between people. it is very much in demand interest between peoples, people are interested in each other, and we still feel that we are close to the people, no matter how it is. here look. here the president spoke about communication, yes, and information, but let’s say a new one, so the function of the bkb is not only military, but also this basis for it is the russian language, yes, which unites us all and meetings. it comes in russian of the same tkb, but we hush up, and it’s very in vain that in many countries there is a cch among young people, there are 15-22 years old. you are more likely to find someone who speaks understand english than a lot of work has been done. this

result finds alexandrovna says i will not name when they say, when when it comes about the fact that they want to slam these integration processes there in general on television. i know for some reason it was done, because a representative of the american british embassy came to us and offered to collapse these projects. i am responsible for my words, therefore colleagues. well , firstly, there are no organizations that have not gone through different stages of their development, including problems, and there were problems in nato and there is a contradiction, and accordingly , the uk recently left the european union and other countries behave from a certain point of view. want to were considered, but nevertheless the first tangential dkb position of the belarusian leader is absolutely correct in the sense that we must preserve the organization. in any case, and for kazakhstan. that is the meaning of participation in the csto. at least the fact that they saved the country from the bloody

revolution was no longer in vain that kazakhstan participated in an accident , only for the sake of this it was possible to form the csto. next moment. as for russia, russian partners should understand that when someone expresses some critical remarks, or some opinion, no one throws stones at russia on the contrary, we want to improve. well, after all, they wanted to improve when they said that calculators for 25 under the table, when we discuss geopolitical issues of relations between russia and belarus, remember when the terminology of the russian brothers switched to the terminology of partners. when we were forced, well, roughly speaking, putting serious economic pressure on us, well, somehow part with certain enterprises, and we tried to influence certain political processes, we will not go deep now, but also political processes tried to influence, so to speak , it did not create, but centripetal forces within the framework of the csto and other republics looked, therefore the russian federation, this is what the most important thing should still offer us all, a unifying

concept. and if we were trading belarus with russia for these last 10 years, since we are now trading, that people come to us, there would be no problems at all as governors of the russian federation. so we would already have a union state of seven eight states, therefore after all, the doctrine of russia and the russian federation with all due respect, we must not even do it, we must understand where we are going, why we are uniting. and that it is impossible to draw conclusions if i watched the top 100 russian billionaires, where they live and where they are, except for the british flag russian - this is probably met twice, mostly british. but once again, i want to repeat this idea once again, the independence of each of these countries, full-fledged independence lies only in our only one in the only one of all countries that only in this and the fact that belarus becomes the chairman of the csto gives the future of this organization, because i am sure that our leadership. enough wisdom to

put everyone at the negotiating table and resolve some issues. a belarusian official told me that on the eve of 2020, when there was still communication with high-ranking ukrainian officials, he complained that they were no longer appointing practically anyone in their government, and they did not hear it. remember these negotiations of the fourteenth year, when the american ambassador was discussing on the phone what to make a candle? well, this is what we are talking about. here is the army. look here . i'll give you a specific example about dkb. in order for there to be mutual understanding, then armenian. the officer must finish a military school in yerevan while he is studying there for 4 years to undergo an internship at our training grounds in the brest region. then graduate from the general staff academy or our command staff academy. uh, the same kazakh and also our officer, we don’t have it, and if we look training of officers in the countries of the dkb. they are doing an internship. they are trained in nato colleges in the west, and moreover,

i will cite specific cases when the government and the general staffs of the ministry of defense of these countries approached with a proposal to send them to the general staff academy in moscow for training . by the way, in armenia it is a member of the dcb. and where was the famous case when an azerbaijani officer hacked an armenian hungary with an ax they do training there together? that's it specifically you why say? well, the documents were leaking, but the secret ones. but i agree about the quality. and this is an argument, by the way, from the russian side. russia, in fact, at some stage froze military cooperation, the development of the same collective rapid reaction forces are trained by the owners. he says, look, well, the topic of ukraine was naturally loud, and this brilliant approach of alexander lukashenko to the russian press. as i understand it, yes, when asked top questions yes, uh top statements that have been

circulated and quoted in all the mainstream media. well, first of all, the president raised three questions of the first there is the build-up of the military presence in the east. what is this if not the development of a potential theater of operations, but they say that they are going to defend themselves. that's all, in the forty-first year they said, there is the same thing about the participation of the west in the conflict in ukraine, how to understand the statement of the general secretary, which says that the defeat of ukraine will mean the defeat of the north the atlantic alliance also discussed these words many times and the third would be regulation. will ukraine be allowed to sit at the negotiating table? the president said that everything is in the hands of ukraine, let's listen. now in the hands, if they do not want to die, then a huge number of people, if they want it is hard difficult, difficult, but it is necessary purple they want to recover. we must stop. we need to stop this, because there will be a

complete destruction of ukraine. this is not what putin said long before the operation, that it will be threaten to lose the statehood of ukraine, this will be the destruction of ukraine must be stopped. listen, we fought with nazi germany, how 30 million died, who today remembers this in belarus, russia a little bit and that's it, that is, the wounds are ready for scarring. not just talking to cooperate, so here we can handle it. all right, let's iron this out. we will probably be able to explain, even now, our generation to the ukrainian people. what happened, so where to go everywhere the world? negotiations, peace, peace and once again wise words, in fact, we see that alexander grigoryevich there was an interesting story. and so he spoke past, people passed. yes, even i watched some security guards, in my opinion, they were so carried away

that it was clear that they were listening to the president ’s words. hmm, they are responsible, because many are afraid to give a characterization so openly and honestly, because what is happening is a hostage of public opinion in their countries and not just laid down. and the president showed there how zelensky holds the ukrainians for one place, but in reality, let's still fix it, that the west is stuck in ukraine as well as the russian federation no less. they also do not fully understand what they should do next , she quickly collapsed russia into provoking, either first a pro-american color, and then a patriotic revolution in the background. eh, the fall of kherson was not justified. further. we need to start the war again. there will be no operational pause. this means new costs to the americans from transferring resources to the pacific ocean. and now it's just the escalating talk of peaceful talk of during the talks, alexander lukashenko spoke all these

half-hints, honestly openly like a man, but frankly voiced and said how it should be, but i am sure that the president speaks in words that are spoken behind the scenes in fists. any sane person understands this, when he says that they are not given, that they need to sit down for a long time and there is no other way out, everyone is talking about it. well, of course they can't say that. uh, the president spoke about this out loud from the very beginning of the conflict of the armed phase. yes, and he said that everything it will still be necessary to sit down at the negotiating table. and the sooner this happens, the easier it will be to do, really. vadim frantsevich, in general now no one knows what to do, not the west, not the russian federation. i think that this situation does not suit anyone. but there is one country, the united states yes, which is interested onar, while solving its problem and, most likely, it is solving the problem not in russia but in the european union. i think, but look at the

president at the end, here are three words that he fredel peace peace again peace, only this gives the basis for further development. if there is a continuation of the conflict, there will be no development. i think that russia is just that. i think she already knows what she's going to do. they are being trained. oh yes, volunteers are not volunteers reservists and volunteers, including, as i understand it, a large group is being prepared, at least half a million. it's minimum. e, ahead of winter, we saw weapons, e, despite the fact that according to the version of the arrest. it always ends up missing and the defense industry in russia has earned full power between so help. uh, according to many positions of the west, ukraine is declining and europe will have big problems and this situation is just awful, because if the west does not sit it at the negotiating table. they will just send people to the slaughter. after all, everything was ready for negotiations, all that russia demanded, uh, was to

denazify the country, so that you understand this is what it is to disband the nationalist battalions , to stop supporting them, there was something else , but to return there is something i don’t remember, was it something about geopolitical interest. that's all. in general, we must understand that russia very clearly outlined its position long before the operation and stated it in writing when belarus is accused, for me, in general, there are nuances. ukraine began to turn its back on us, and then simply spit in our direction, absolutely unreasonably and provoke us in general, which they really wanted from us, of course, that is, they imposed sanctions on us. uh, roughly speaking, we were limited in trade relations, and then they wanted us to our single most powerful ally. i mean the russian federation e. uh interrupted trade economic relations or severed the military union this is impossible. we have obligations, therefore the position of belarus is absolutely reasonable. we want peace, the war is unprofitable for us, in principle, it

threatens our national interests, but we are obliged, within the framework of agreements within the framework of the union state, to support our ally and will do it tangentially. uh, the prospects for this operation are correct dmitry alexandrovich says there is beneficiary. and here is the moment until the beneficiary sees what is for him, and the development of this military operation will incur any significant damage. uh, for example, undermining socio-political stability, there may be some political disagreements, and so on they will do. understand the question of the existence of the dollar as the world's dominant reserve currency. them. we must save it. to do this, they need to save him, the war is needed in europe, and so far, which means they are considering the option twice in the pacific ocean and him, but the first option is europe because europe they will let go, russia e. having lost such a powerful partner as well, let’s say, it will weaken economically, e.g. , these hotbeds of tension along the entire perimeter of the russian federation will intensify , including in the csto countries and are approaching china,

then they will spend this provocation there, so they need a life of conflict. and now alexander lukashenko absolutely yes, today they brought a quote from the politician. here he went. uh, over here, i saw the european officials are furious towards the biden administration, otherwise blame americans are profiting from the conflict in ukraine by selling more gas at great high prices and more weapons while countries are suffering, but they said here, yes, well, after all, about the situation with ukraine, someone really got stuck on the one hand, there is already a clear understanding in europe that this is not a war. and they do not need this conflict, but considering how european elis are today dependent on washington, how much they are literally on a short leash, yes, and under a cap. eh, then, to unfortunately, despite the current political class that exists in europe, support for ukraine

will continue contrary to the interests of the european politicians themselves on the other hand. yes, that 's what colleagues are talking about. e that this war first of all beats and kills the european union from the murder of the european union, russia will also suffer, and in the end it will be bad for everyone in europe. the continent will well be a state. here but today , after all, the remnants of common sense began to awaken. look literally. yesterday. macron, tried to prevent the flight of uh company, uh, the french to america yes and put together this farewell dinner for the leaders of the largest corporations. somehow tried to e-hub and say that you stay here, although america invites you in violation. all available and america itself has developed rules there, for example, within the framework of the world trade organization. yes. uh rules uh free trade. competition lack of protectionism. america today

is by far the main protectionist. there, about $370 billion is ready to be spent on support for industrial production. within the united states itself, they are ready to date the production of electric vehicles, the production holder and energy prices at a minimum level, and at the same time invite european countries to move, or rather european companies to move their production. we see it all. here but what i want to say is that, now, uh, of course, america will be interested in continuing the conflict, well, to a certain point, as we saw, this is a provocation with missiles on the territory of poland is very was quickly stopped, that is, from the point of view of the united states, there should not be a nuclear war, they are afraid they do not want it, therefore, when jointly, the ukrainian-polish desire was to use the fall of supposedly russian, actually ukrainian

missiles on the territory of poland with casualties, then very quickly an ohrik from washington stopped everyone and all these insinuations in the polish press stopped and ukraine stopped saying that these were e russian missiles, that is, a nuclear war today washington, do not need a war with conventional weapons. it will need to continue, because it is on the one hand, and they bleed the allies. we saw this demand from the side of another trump and then continuing to add. yes, there is no pressure to increase defense spending within nato to at least three percent, and some countries have already surpassed it in poland there. yes, more than 4.5 are already planning to increase the amount of defense spending, yes. uh, we see that this money is where they come from the european economy, that is the more you invest in the defense industry, the less you have left for your own internal development of the internal program

; they go to ukraine as help. and who will replenish this if the entire industry moves to america, american military corporations begin to fill the warehouses of their comrades, receiving in return contracts that are also beneficial for the support of the american government, european money. that is, here we must understand that from the point of view of the united states, this conflict needed and continue. they are ready for him for a very long time to infinity. what can, here i will finish, yes, what, can europe today, yes? here are the european politicians in the first place. for them already reach they need to realize, that is, their national interests. and then the macron, despite the fact that he is actually a protege of this american e, that means the financial elites, yes and e, despite the fact that there are certain opportunities for influence on him, including compromising evidence, that is, look, as soon as he is this spent dinner. yes, and how, only he started a little stomp towards the usa and say you are

doing something wrong. uh, there's a scandal. now. uh, some american consulting firm that worked in france, as it turns out, may have taken actions to help the macron come to power, while receiving up to a billion dollars, uh, the european and french governments, including the government, did not pay taxes. this is actually a hook that will pull off the macron as soon as he tries to openly oppose washington. yes, i didn’t worry about this, because in europe has created a unique democratic model for the authorities to take responsibility, for example, well, you look, what is happening in ukraine, here it has passed, no matter how noticed on monday this week, the parliament adopted a law zelensky approved that they would not monitor high officials for life, firstly, this is immediately a cross at

the entrance to the european union of corruption. and this is what 3 years says, and then you have this money that you stole, that you bought real estate in switzerland, comrades, ukrainian authorities who have live as i want. that is, he is already preparing for his elite. waste. yes, yes, they open up new new facts, but in my opinion. we talked about this many times, i don’t know whether we agree or not, but this expressed conflict was inevitable, as for me, firstly, we found out and already twice, first in an open interview, and then poroshenko told a prankster driven lexus that they didn't intend to. uh-huh to comply with the minsk agreements. it took them 8 years to, well, it just so happens that eight they needed time to create to pump up the army with weapons and to attract nato to our side, and we know that on the fourteenth year, or on may 15, they also began to help, naturally. there would be a military operation to return the donbass and

crimea, the president remembered this. let’s listen, and then we’ll continue, we didn’t say that society inside our countries is trying to shake it up, just along the perimeter of the russian federation, we all said that russia is a special love of our organization. well, objectively it is, as far as the perimeter is concerned. first blazed ukraine in the twentieth year tried to destroy yesterday will go with the fourteenth year. he could four years. there it all started earlier, but the acute phase. i remember when vladimirovich and i were in sochi, colleagues just didn’t know, they were negotiating with red fields, someone called you and came up to me. the west offers all the merit of the negotiations. to come ukrainian quarrels are you ready to organize this meeting in minsk tomorrow i will. yes, i will fly there now, i will do it when the question was asked. do you

agree do you agree did you immediately ask me go to them. we sat down at the table to negotiate, agreed to start supposedly fulfilling vovan and lexus pulled our old friend, this petro poroshenko, he said privately to the minsk agreements and says he signed them, he knows that he will not fulfill them and did not fulfill them and it’s good that he said that it was all about preparing for war. it is connected openly and directly. it already sounds bad. it seems to me that the current ukrainian elite is in power. just happiness. that's what putin was forced to, uh, start a special operation first so as not to lose any advantage. there is such a good passage. andriy bogdan is like that, he headed the office of the president of ukraine, see he tells putin how how did putin behave as an ecumenical? it felt like he wanted to. find

some solution to the problem there. i do not know from what materials from economic political. it seems to me that we somehow threw putin hard uh- huh we promised one thing and did another. they promised one thing and did nothing. already started a long time ago. let this poroshenko be president, remember this is a casus belli there were incidents. and they had a so-called no man's land between the apu and the people's militias of donbass under poroshenko, they became the so-called toad races. that is, what is it, it means that the battles are going on in the area of ​​​​solidarity, there was a solidarity arc, that is, a violation of the minsk agreements. they carried out limited offensive actions, advancing, therefore, several hundred meters. this was already a pretext for a military operation at that time. they did this ukrainian myths among politicians openly

discussed the croatian version. what is croatian option, when in the early nineties, against the backdrop of the victories of the serbian military community, the conflict was frozen, they conducted these operations in the ninety-fifth year, to which they were preparing openly about this, they borrowed experience, nato officers, them. it was all brought by the operation by storm and lightning, in my opinion. they were then called croatian , no one hid this when zelensky came to power. he called directly. agreements of national treason, the persecution of poroshenko began, among other things, for this reason, and even then without any bath and poroshenko's lexus is quite open, as his supporters said that there was no such trick to deceive putin himself for many observers. this became clear already in the first months after the signing of the agreement. so i talked to the luhansk people to convey, of course, listen, well, they told me. uh, lugansk donetsk politicians. how ukrainian representatives behaved during the consultation of the hotel president. every visit, every meeting, provocation, insult, rudeness and

only the skill of our diplomats. and what is very important intelligence officers who were bred allowed to settle this somehow to continue the dialogue, but look at these peaceful statements by alexander lukashenko, look at how rude they answered. uh, in the same kiev, it’s simply not a burden, but they are rudeness, in fact, firstly, the correct one was inevitable. so bad it was inevitable. the fact that we brought the situation to the fact that we were provoked, listen, well, it was obvious. i don’t know for whom it was not obvious; for me it was absolutely obvious what provokes us to get involved in this military conflict and defiantly humiliating attitude of russia were pointedly expressed. that is, this operation was prepared, the question is that when we started, well, we did not start this russia, belarus, but was an ally and accordingly . e, assisted as best they could e were not, respectively, prepared for the fact that such a trap is being prepared. let's speak objectively, because

in the editor's club they were ready to raise a summer -old program, when the russian language was banned, ukraine left the house of the trade union, because you think that without the british it did, but look what work was done. again, i say, more and more evidence that all this, of course, was inevitable and had been prepared for a long time. although this is an elementary thing, and we have long understood, here are a few statements this week. uh, first of all, uh, the new york times remembered an article by uh, george kenan. he warned back in 1997 that nato expansion would not lead to this. he quote. this is an interesting statement of the former general secretary. french foreign ministry adviser to the president. jacques chirac. maris gordon montagna's name is he talked about , uh, basically, what led to uh this to this conflict. let's listen. let them laugh in 2006 on behalf of president shirak. i met russian presidential aide sergei prikhodko in moscow, to whom i then proposed a plan for a joint protectorate over ukraine, which included russian control of the

oddity, which would guarantee its neutral status. russia is interested in the project, as he was filming the crimea issue and accommodation. there the russian fleet to the french president. i also liked this plan. and i was instructed to discuss it with the us representatives. i spoke with us secretary of state condoleezza rice, and she answered the following, well, france has parted. you have already blocked the first wave of accession of central european countries to nato for many years, and we will not let you block the second. the question was whether they were going to collect ukraine or not. i don't like these statements at all sovereign state joint protectorate. look, well, you won't build any union like that if one single subject in any union says, i exercise a protectorate against others in good times. when there is something to pay off with these countries, i will be allies as soon as there are hard times. that's how special operation is now. everyone will turn a little, but to the side a little more competent even rhetoric should be used, not a single

union will be strong if it is not profitable , safe and successful, everything in this formula, success you create such trade economic relations political relations, when your allies are comfortable and safe, all this is a centripetal force, as soon as it is not profitable, it hurts and dangerously everyone scatters, so you need to draw conclusions and work on mistakes very seriously. these are not jokes, but we talked about this for several years in a row, how much i argued for these great figures who came there, they said you are nobody without us, you are nothing without us. if you, uh, tomorrow we will turn it off for you, so what are you, if you said that, there and 10 years on ukraine offended. no, i'm not offended. i say something else, again, as you wanted, uh, to work with the ukrainian population with the ukrainian population, when 10 years after the fourteenth year. we only heard that there are nazis, fascists and so on. yes, there were many people who led the wrong policy, but we had to have more programs where you said what you propose, do you understand or not? how do you propose to transform the system, that

you are our brothers, that you should understand together? i also say a little why not alone they never accused the entire ukrainian people that it was the nazis to us, on the contrary. no, there was a clear division of propaganda that the majority of ukrainians were for russians, in fact, russian people live there even when the special operations began for some reason well this ukrainians. these are russian people. it's just that the nazis captured them, there were political organizations that were there. well, here's the bear. take with us a classic example. that is, those who were subjected to defeat worked there. the media, but uh, were constantly getting in the way. they constantly marginalized, a situation of a manipulative society was created, in which any efforts by russia to advance its agenda. they blocked zelensky, because zelensky was voted for by those who were for normal relations with russia, only because jews from kryvyi rih were looking for him speaking russian, who made a career in moscow, they voted for him as a counterweight to poroshenko and what he did very

well this week in this about. sorry cattle riter spoke out. you know this person. he talked about that we would have leveled just ukrainian villages and cities, if it were the american army, and would already be near the polish border, they would knock on their window and say, because we will do it with you , he talks about russians like that, because they believe that they are one nation, because they studied in the same military teachers. they have been in touch for a long time. this is a completely different story to you american idiot of this, uh, misunderstanding of how the ukrainian regime is now. the last days of mobilization are carried out primarily among the russian-speaking of the population of the eastern central regions, that is, fulfilling the order of zelensky and then, in order to destroy this conditionally pro-russian or russian- oriented part to some extent . and here difficult is very important. yes, we’re deducing all the time talking about the fact that they didn’t finalize it no well, the union is like this, any union

will fall apart, because sooner or later it will become dangerous or unprofitable, or something else, there must be some other common ideological braces, besides what you say, well and well for example, if yes, maybe somewhere in the distance, there is not very benevolent in relation to ukraine, they call western ukraine there and the story. they are something wrong. well , look, belarus has always treated the entire ukrainian people with respect. we never shared anyone. yes, we have always respectfully president zelensky met more than once, and he is like a father to him. yes, i was ready to teach. and to instruct and show some ways, some need to go further. and what did we get in return. why because e in power now is including armed forces, the nazi formations are nazis, and they still somehow treat them, if you are not ukraine, but a representative of another nationality, yes, they don’t always talk about peace every time, as in yerevan , the president speaks to journalists about peace, that the only output - this is the world - it's all frozen

negotiations. what distinguishes ukraine what kind of videos are sent to us, please, here we can talk about it for a very long time. well, firstly, vadim, if a drunk decided to fight, how can you not kiss him will pick up these relations, or by force. well, you can’t imitate one thing like that, it works, the second is that we must understand as long as these nazis are in power, about whom ivan mikhailovich said they will be. ukrainian citizens people will die. and that's what the president says, he always says. stop stop killing people, as soon as this happens you can talk about something, but these people do not need it. they are not going to stop. the president speaks first. he says that later we will figure out who is to blame for this very important. yes, it is important to reach an agreement and stop these bloodsheds. well, here is one moment.

how to force a dependent government to go to the negotiation stage. it can be, or the populace should demand it, until we see it. well, while we intimidate this people. you know that a hut can come into the house. uh, that is, either the people, or once again i say the country that is ruled by this puppet government. here you are very emotional. you say you blame the russians, you blame it well. the panties were not touched. thank you very much. look look at it a little differently and look at it the way you want lukashenka to be looked at by everyone else. look ahead. you are looking back at the past. you won’t change it but what’s ahead, yes, the president spoke one step, and 10 steps forgot what germany was doing here on

our territory, that we won’t forget that between ukraine and russia you said that dozens of murdered social activities come from the hut journalists for years, as a rule, talked about the fact that you don't have to fight with russia. we realized we were doing a report on how these people together began to jump out. oh, yes, you can, when we are talking about ukraine now, the first thing to understand is that , firstly, the nazis are headed by the nazis in ukraine today . yes, which, uh, is not oriented towards the national, ukrainian interest is the first. that is, their main interest is to use the situation in order to replenish their wallets and withdraw them back. look where are the first maidan governments. basically. they all have long been living in the united states built there himself a pitchfork, where is mr. yatsenyuk who is the first billion. after the maidan, switzerland built itself and now that the current flows of uncontrolled

weapons. money for food of all kinds of food, then for humanitarian aid. we meet in stores sold ukrainian. yes. someone, it means that this money was received here, as we see , weapons are being sold, thank god there, even russia was sold some secret samples that they were able to study. that is, in this case, we observe that ukraine is a country in which the authorities are absolutely not nationally oriented elite and the cause and by the ukrainian people of reconciliation with russia no, they fulfill a certain order that they were given and then they try to replenish. we've been talking about this here for 8 years. why are they still holding on? now, if there was such a picture as you told, yes, they all run away, they don’t care. and i'm not sure what i appreciate in the us i don't know where it is. and where is poroshenko and where are these cars running around, he stood in kiev with a machine gun for a second when it was all the wings, stolen properly stolen, but these are people

who have some price, some of them have prices. and what about the ukrainian generals or officers who go to the front line, they think about how they can steal footcloths or berets. no, they are at war. yes, if there was such a system, ukrainian, all this state, would have collapsed a long time ago, yes, the nazis. yes, i like this mode. yes, he's horrified. yes, he is infiltrated by mafia structures. and so on, but it keeps holding on, which means it’s especially effective a totalitarian dictatorship that suppresses everything is now undergoing an operation against the orthodox church created. uh, armed formations that rally around nazi ideology. we see it uh-huh, but how much it is of ukrainian interest. and how ukrainian is it? interesting. here they are against more than a mass country that were

parishioners of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate and ban the church here. this is about the ukrainian interest. i don't give a damn about ukraine. we didn't listen, that is. now the power is precisely this part of the elite, the other part was destroyed. you yourself say medvedchuk where he is, what's wrong with him in russia, where the rest are all opposition. banned the party of regions was destroyed banned before you know there are people who do not care about ukraine steal money. how many millions are already abroad? ukraine here? that's where they ran away, people will give, what's going on there can not be a caricature of all this, then give, here they used to draw in hitler in the second world war. here it is, there is no such caricature the war is going on, that it is a very serious

adversary the united states spent 30 billion more on the war this year than the entire budget of the russian federation for military purposes, so that you know $ 30 billion more already and they have as the president says, helicopter money and can still print endlessly, displaying the company. and one more thing i wanted to say, when they withdraw the company. you see, during the second world war, companies were also withdrawn. after all, these are transnational groups, these are families, and that is, companies can engage in pharmacy of any cosmetology transport. they showed the chemical industry a little, too, the situation is also affecting it. this is a bad signal. still, some. uh, big financial tycoons are ready to agree that there should be a more, uh, expanded conflict in europe, now the colossal role of lukashenka, the role of belarus is that we still want to reconcile the parties somehow. we need to find a lowland, uh, and to european politicians and to ukrainian and americans, and not necessarily with positions of power. it may be somehow to convince that after

all the world here is beneficial to all parties, if we do not convince, but so far it seems to me not the time, well, our program is simply coming to an end. you said about the nazis , we have every broadcast of the headings about , uh, to see manifestations of nazism in ukraine in the press. but i am glad that the western press has finally begun to pay attention to this. here are a few facts this week, a new zealand war correspondent, then tormented by the presence of me nazi ukrainian symbols armies in the nikolaevsky region, the ukrainian militants of the city raised over the tank. so he was surprised when he arrived there. and there, what the red banner wanted to see, we have been looking at these pictures since the fourteenth year. uh, well, and on facebook on the internet in social networks it was very vividly discussed in europe. uh, nazi themes in ukraine e dervivander. you know such a unit, a frame in which one of the ukrainian militants flaunts a chevron, uh, thirty-sixth waffle, says, yes, nothing happened to the ss grenadier division

uh, the ukrainian armed forces, uh, the forces are good, but you, i’m sure that you don’t have any reaction to this , you’re used to it well, that they uh begin to uh, such materials appear, including this may be, uh , will lead to the end of the conflict, because there is, well, hope for the european people for the european opinion leaders who will start asking. uh, some questions. well, their completion of our program is a bit of a media topic. we remember, uh, the us scandal this press. on november 15 they published the famous headline a senior us intelligence official said the russian missiles. uh, crossed poland into a nato member, killing two people. by the way, we also saw these headlines at the same moment as we saw our zmogar media, of course. e thought that there was some point in the russian federation to hit on e, on poland, and knowing that the weapon was high- precision and hit there with e, with an error of two meters, ours naturally thought about it,

they picked it up and accused russia, well, on november 21 another took the heading appeared that this press fires a reporter behind an inverted story about russian missiles. his name is james laporta. why am i, you know all this? what did you say before? what james said before, thought about it. uh, journalists are internet users, and it turned out that this is generally the author of numerous fakes, he talked about everyday battles in kiev , for example, and once. his phrase, which he quotes , he attributed this quote to zelensky to zelensky. uh, they offered to organize his evacuation abroad. here in this. e context. e was said supposedly this uh, there was a phrase and zelensky said. uh, there's a fight going on here. i need ammo. they burn taxis, the commonwealth wrote, he has not yet overcome the russian goliath, but already now he is the most courageous politician in the democratic world. the global and mail

wrote a delightfully amazing transformation of the ukrainian president and television comedian into a wartime leader. well, it turned out that the quote was made up. uh, don't exaggerate this dismissal of a journalist. when you fire an employee, or i, we do it publicly. no, this was done publicly by the media with the sole purpose of maintaining the level of trust in general. what fash all the point where will be next? work this guy. i think his task to do will work, just the same was to create fakes. yes, he's fine. the fact is, once again we want to show you to our viewers. you see how they work. you look what they are doing well caught a little chance someone on the spot. the explosion of this s-300 missile. remember, picked up a chip photographed it appeared on social networks. this was done by one of the locals, if not for

this photo, it could have been the third world war. putin would be blamed. this journalist would still work in the usa this press. it would have been considered one of the most honest media , but it changed in kramatorsk when the italian, in my opinion, journalists recorded that the missile point was ukrainian, anyway, kramatorsk appears in a series of these fake russian crimes. now they have reacted to these changes. we must fix fix. quite possible, to head some democratic fund will be good for young journalists, how can they write correctly or will they spend the money they earn. it seems to me that he has a place in the transitional uh cabinet of the government of vilnius in person, where all such people can be found later and noted. this is a hero, so this is in general, we are you, i'm sure you know all these cases. i analyze them. we do this for, uh, tv viewers of the divider by 10, we know the price of these in western media reports and those who were not funded on the territory of the republic

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