we are going on a grandiose trip around belarus for sure. many have heard that the geographical center of belarus is located in this region. but not everyone knows that this is the only region. whose name does not coincide with the name of the regional center - a memorial sign in the form of a gate and 1067 is the date of the first mention of the city in the tale of bygone years by professional guides of local local history. here, such a working floor was on a winch. bags of grain were lifted up through the door; there were beams on this beam . here are such huge tongs, copyright routes and points of interest. you know the trinity church right away from the cornflower blue domes, an architectural monument grew in this place at the beginning of the 19th century

. baptism, a witness to the throne, ready, more than 9 centuries have passed since the creation of the unique friske. travel with us to belarus 24. everything changes very quickly, time goes by imperceptibly minutes days of the year we never have enough time to stop and think about those who are waiting for us. it is at this moment that it is worth remembering those without whom we will be so lonely on this earth time to say, you know, i miss or listen, dads, right now, without delay, you need to say. i'm here, i'm here appreciate the time spent

with your loved ones. vladimirovich good evening good evening a little more than two years ago we talked here. well, you were in a different position. then, less than two weeks later, the president appointed you minister of the interior. and here is the difference. today,

one can say between the head of the internal affairs of the capital and the whole republic. marat sergeevich remembers very well that our conversation lasted 2 years. and i i want to thank you today for that conversation. after all, the conversation went through a difficult time in 2020 , and that transmission is the facts that we conveyed to people. e, he gave confidence not only to the personnel of the police, but also to ordinary citizens , the confidence that the truth is on our side, so i want to tell you again, yes, thank you very much. this has had a very positive effect on people. as for the difference between the head of the central internal affairs directorate and the head of the ministry of internal affairs, of course, the difference is very large, and first of all. this the responsibility of this load is on the head of the central internal affairs directorate on the head of the minsk police. it is very large and for any head of the internal affairs directorate it is very huge, he is responsible for a large team in the region, but

if we talk about the minister of internal affairs, then there is still a question of a certain policy. what is the ministry of the interior? yes, the task is clearly defined by the law on the internal affairs bodies. but it depends on the minister of internal affairs, on his deputy, on the head of the internal affairs directorate, how certain decisions will be made in a timely manner, but not enough prepare and sign an order, certain or orders. we also need to make sure that our employees do it. after all, the lives of people sometimes depend on the correct execution of an order or instruction, sometimes the attitude of ordinary citizens to employees of internal affairs, and therefore, giving an order, especially when we introduce some kind of innovation, giving an order. i always come to the regions. i always clarify a simple policeman how he understands this task. the most important thing is that this task should not be raised by the performer. the leader who prepared this

order developed it, because we understand on the one hand, but they can execute it a little differently. therefore, here is the responsibility for people, but again, personnel policy. and the ideology of the ministry is all about the minister of the interior and his deputies, so it differs in the first place. this is responsibility. okay. we will talk about new things about our own in your system, definitely a little further, but she hid unexpected facts as soon as during a special operation in ukraine she disappears electricity. this is how calls from scammers disappear in belarus, but this is a fact of your internet intelligence unit, they spend a lot of time to say hello mom. yes, it was indeed from relatives for some time some data of your work in this direction. they were under operational heading. yes, i am glad and thank you that today we have the opportunity to be the first and the media to listen to some of them yes, these are simple

ordinary conversations between our operatives and scammers in ukraine, but let's discuss the scale so a simple conversation with a ukrainian call center operator. half-centre b is the most profitable. well, damn it, i don’t know the most sensible thing you can earn from it officially, as if they are even recruiting. yes, he does, yes, officially the flesh works in our cops. and for the fact that they cover us, well, all the cops, we like to cover half the center of ours , so to speak, the patrol police have good money from us. they just come there to take pictures. well, as if they need to do in front of their superiors what they covered up half a sand. and there was never such a thing that they would come directly to cover for 4 years, and just the same for him, not by phone on viber on computers. how many 95 computers wow, this is

only one office, we don’t have one, it’s six, well, it’s your organizations that have so many offices. so , interesting information, 95 operators in only one center and only this owner has six such call centers. in ukraine, and you have accurate data on the scale of this whole scam under the guise of the authorities. well, actually the authorities. yes , absolutely right. i want to tell you that the exact data. exactly how many we are not ready to say today in terms of number, but i can say that at least 100 call centers are located in almost every regional city in ukraine, er, the scale is very huge, they earn some money. this money is earned by people, and it is also spent, including on weapons, something goes to crime. we have accurate data. the scale is very, very huge. today,

a huge insipid network has been created in ukraine regarding fraud. yes you said it right our operatives are doing a very huge job of our internet intelligence. uh, there are other operational moments that we have provided for transmission today, these conversations. this is just a part. of course, we will use a lot of the materials that we have in the future in order to counter these call centers, these people who deceive our people and, as a result, commit crimes on the territory of the republic of belarus even before a special operation is carried out. we sent over 100 inquiries to ukraine e. we had specific data on specific people who commit these crimes, but we did not receive a response to any of our requests . you can say that for sure

, almost everything is legalized, except for the call centers that are located there, a whole system of operator training has been developed. uh, there are training centers that are also located in ukraine, there may be one training center for several cities. where do they lead so-called. listov, uh, who will then work with the operators, they teach them how to speak, they provide certain materials, a certain set of words, how to communicate to the citizens of the republic of belarus in this or that situation. well, i also want to say that we are doing a lot of work not only in an operational way, but also preventive work on the territory of the entire republic of belarus, because it is the elderly who are subject to this crime. uh, local police inspectors work. thanks to the journalists. through we also bring this information, give specific examples of the scale of deception, very, very huge. uh, the damage caused by the

crimes this year alone. here, this category of fraud is 4 million 500,000 us dollars, on the territory of the republic of belarus only scammers who are in ukraine took possession of the money, we bring the numbers, but, unfortunately, sometimes our citizens do not hear. today a district police inspector comes in and brings up a specific situation. the woman smiles, says this cannot be with me. the precinct never leaves in a day exactly the situation where i tell there. eh, what got into trouble, dear person, and so on and so forth. and in the end, they take over the money. yes, we detain a lot of couriers, but we detain only couriers who are on the territory of the republic, as a rule, these are belarusians. we work with them and bring them to the present day. i want, again , to bring it to those people who will try to earn money somewhere and work as a courier. here in this be a

chain in this criminal scheme in the binding okay. all of them are detained until the trial, and we are petitioning the prosecutor's office to have these people arrested without fail. and it will only get tougher. and how much they face it depending on the courier, yes, depending on the amount, if uh, a felony is committed under 209 3 4 parts there up to 10 years wow, yes, if a felony, well, depending on the size, they usually commit very different crimes. concomitant sometimes, if such people who double-check, that is, wait 1 second. i am call back on 102 trying to steal. somewhere these old people are repelled and so on. but this will be a completely different corpus delicti, different, the situation is there, therefore, uh, the scale is very, very huge. sometimes it just surprises. yes, our belarusian people are very trusting. well, and such a

problem. unfortunately, it exists today, but the scale on the territory itself in ukraine is really a criminal scheme, which is currently working, they are covered by the authorities of ukraine, e.g., the police are covering, because what we heard. yes, all the information is there. it was said really come simply. for the picture, they show that they are doing some kind of manipulation, that is, they are detaining, but not a single person was detained, not a single criminal case was possible. here, i always wanted to know the prices of the issue. yes how much does conscience cost and it turned out that here in these records that you provided us there is an answer to this question. well, at least one of the answers. yes? let's listen. and what is your income for the sake of interest per day? okay, in your specific day. why do you only call belarus? how are you looking? so you take viber from a person, or maybe this person is for ukraine, those people who

are for ukraine who are in the republic of belarus. we do not take them from them. vibera well, that is, you know who is for belarus and who is for ukraine of course there is? bast, such as involvement, by which you can see the pensioners on the account you call from this account, then you will take money from someone else . yes, of course, it goes without saying. to be frank , the robin hoods have gathered, from this and of the past. yes, that is a really huge amount, if we are talking about the fact that dozens, if not hundreds of thousands of people are involved in the scheme, then the amount is huge, what you mentioned. can we say that these are all the cases that actually exist, there 4 million with kopecks, which, of course, uh sure that such crimes they villages are latent, where people just don't turn to us sure they will sometimes, working on one crime in the house and

practicing at home porches conversations with other people. they turn to us, they say, here i have it on last week was the same similar situation. well , i’m telling a friend somewhere, they say that a similar situation happened and the money was taken away. i want to add that it was named, which earns one operator. yes, this operator only earns. they have deductions for 50% of the amount received. this is also already today clearly established by various criminal structures. they correctly said that something goes to the army, that is, specifically, it is the purchase of weapons, something else. well, to commit murders of those that are taking place today in the territory. yes, there is another post that says exactly that. she will rise to the army. shi, why do n't you go to war yourself? well, if i can bring, much more benefit, and what do you use? besides

that you earn yourself $2,000? i earn for myself. i help the military, i carry the information war. maybe you're just sitting cowards, just on the phone, so as not to fight. at this place, ivan vladimirovich is a specialist. let's emphasize again, that is, stolen from belarusian pensioners money. they actually go officially not just to finance the war. she's murder or i'm still missing you. no, you are absolutely right, indeed this money is spent on a murder that takes place on the territory of ukraine, and the operator said this phrase, that he is carrying out an information war. he really fights, he commits a crime on the territory of the republic of belarus well, all the crimes that occur somewhere to a certain extent and the carelessness of our people, therefore our task is all bodies of internal affairs of journalists.