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in their interesting cities of belarus the inhabitants of this city are happy people on the central square have their own big ben, height. from meters we will show the main sights, the monuments to cyril of turov were erected on castle hill on may 13, 1993 , on the day of the commemoration of the saint, and we will share historical facts. it is known that on june 23, 1944 , the legendary operation bagration began from here, see the program of the city of belarus on our tv channel. i do not want. to kill like grandfathers. leaves glowing sun look at this light deceased. and skin day to discover something
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new is so. because we cut it from anyone. with love to belarus, the program sas is authorized to declare its presenter nadezhda sas i welcome you. this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening in the world and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of each of the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. i will tell you right now on november 23, a session of the csto collective security council was held by the president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenka said that western countries are persistently trying to return to a unipolar world order,
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imposing their own rules of the game, belarus sees increasing the readiness of the components of the csto troops as one of the priority tasks during its chairmanship of the organization. early presidential elections were held in kazakhstan, in which kassym-jomart tokaev won for the second time after the protests in almaty on march 21, this financed the construction of a new kazakhstan , however, the leader will be the same, his candidacy for the post of president was supported by more than 80% of observer voters consider the re-election an attempt by takayev, to gain new legitimacy and finally get out of the shadow of nursultan nazarbayev , whose successor he became in 2019. north korean leader kim jong-un for the first time showed in public his daughter, who accompanied him on the tests of an intercontinental ballistic
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missile, although pyongyang has never officially confirmed that kim jong-un has children, experts believe that the official appearance of the daughter of the leader of north korea is intended to demonstrate continuation of succession in power. elon musk , the new owner of the twitter network, restored the account of former us president donald trump done. this was according to the results of a vote by users, trump himself, to whom twitter closed access to his account in february 2021, after the storming of congress by his supporters, he is in no hurry to return to the social network, he is trying to develop his own social network under the name of lenin. true coward. at the same time, at the time of applying censorship to him , trump. twitter has over 90 million followers. well, i'll start our today's program with poetry,
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although sober people walk around warsaw no noise, you won't hear it. not a dispute. one rings, the officer's sabers of crosses and spurs. vladimir mayakovsky , a poem by poland in 1927, well, 100 years later, little has changed, except that the swords of the spur. today it is not in fashion, but the military preparations in warsaw are in full swing about this, but military games and geopolitical ambitions. poland will be the focus of today's program. i am glad to welcome nikolai butin, who is already present in our studio, doctor of military sciences good evening and nikolai mezhevich. director of the center for belarusian studies at the european institute of the russian academy of sciences. hello hello indeed. we start our program, as always, by tradition, with a blitz question. well, poland is preparing for war nikolaitovich, right? please get ready. please tell me if there are opportunities for belarus to respond
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to this preparation, they are real, since this is what the state exists for, to ensure national security, one of them components of national security - this is military security, which, in principle, is being discussed. uh, from the point of view of today's development , a grouping has appeared near our borders, which currently numbers 150,000 people. for six years. it should increase to 300.000. and these are only the forces that the armed forces of the republic of poland have at their disposal. not counting the nato grouping, not counting e-aircraft, not counting ships, not counting the fact that by 2026 poland has already purchased 250 former abrams tanks use plus 600 pieces of armored vehicles
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that she bought from korea tell me, please, what does this mean only that someone is preparing for something in the united states. america needs a strategic buffer. blue and it should be poland, the newspaper quotes the political scientist leszyk sykulsky in a clean-cut manner in his assessment that warsaw is really preparing for war. in the east, this is evidence. many things. in more detail in our story, the activity of nato, along with it, the growth of the military threat. more shifts to the east. key role. here , the polish government led by duda is striving to create the largest army in europe, leaving behind even germany, letting even more is part of the largest and most important military alliance in the world history of the north atlantic treaty organization. we consider this an essential guarantee of our security, poland's own defense is very important, therefore, in 2023. we want to increase our armed
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forces by at least 20,000 new soldiers and i 'm not talking about territorial defense, but regular army. today the polish armed forces number about 150,000 people. 30,000 of which are part of the new territorial defense forces. in addition, 4,000 nato troops are permanently stationed in the country, and about 5,000 more have been sent. under the pretext of a threat from russia into rotation. also, about 12,000 alliance soldiers can be turned on at the same time, in total there are more than 20,000 foreign military in the country, which corresponds to two us divisions. in addition, poland is actively purchasing weapons and military equipment. equipment in order to strengthen the national military industry for these purposes. next year, about five percent of gdp will be directed, which will be almost at the level of the united states, therefore, according to experts, warsaw sees itself as a conductor of us policy in europe, and it is poland that
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wants to become a springboard for american troops to become the main american overseer in the region. belarus has already received the appropriate signals more than once and continues to transfer them to the eastern ones. combat training activities slates what is this? well, now the czech politician, leader of the communist party of the czech republic and moravia, josef skala, mr. skala, is joining our broadcast good evening ivan thank you very much for being with us today please tell me if there is an understanding in the czech republic and other countries of the region that the hard line that poland's leadership is currently threatening to drag europe into the war. i want to say that human
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society is, well, divided, ruling circles, they are very actively supporting politics, so to speak, on canvas marriage, and, uh, i would say that at least half your population is against it, but of course it is much less audible. although in september there were mass demonstrations on vakhsovskaya square in the center of prague, which protested very sharply against the fact that in honor of the republic took part in that policy, please, can it be argued that the militant rhetoric of the kaczynski team reflects a desire to hide their own problems in the economy and in the same sphere of respect for human rights, do you think necessarily this is true. this also applies to human republics we found ourselves in a deep deepening crisis in terms of energy, that is,
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energy prices, inflation, uh, and other, so to speak, big problems. and of course, the belligerent foreign policy, it is his goal, is also somehow, some kind of camouflage for all this and, let's say, a fake way out of that impasse. i want to ask my colleagues to display a map on our plasma, this is exactly what the growth in the number of polish armed forces looks like. yes, these are the data we have at the moment nikolai maratovich. please tell me how economical poland can afford to have the strongest army among the members of the european union, because the desire is already obvious. thank you. thank you. i am indeed a doctor of economic sciences. yes, this is my topic, in general , including military spending. and you understand, what a thing the poles found an interesting model, and receive a subsidy from the european union up to 20% of the budget, and then
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use these subsidies to buy american nato-standard equipment from the united states, that is, relatively speaking, everything that we have already heard. now yes in the studio it is purchases with european money american and fair it was observed. very good quality south korean technology as a result. uh, maybe it will turn out to be a strong army, but there is a nuance, huh? all forces, uh, as it happened many times in polish history, are thrown at the ground forces, and the fleet in the modern sense, poland does not have aviation. and the thing is modern, especially aviation thing extremely expensive. and here, too, there is a huge gap. yes, and given the fact that almost all stocks of soviet equipment, including equipment of soviet standards, produced at polish factories, and
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there were very many of them, many were built back in the seventies, these reserves were exhausted. they went to ukraine, and the replacement, which we talked about, is planned, then the first army, until they become. well , as for germany, you know, uh, in berlin, uh, they decided to remain silent about the statements that the polish army would overtake the german one, but uh, the silence of berlin does not mean that they did not hear it. they heard this and will certainly draw conclusions. it is important to note at the moment that germany supports poland's desire to strengthen its vision in this country in fact, a buffer zone separating it from the sphere of influence of the russian federation, but in the united states of america they see this as an attempt by germany to lie down on a hammock. this is exactly how one of the western publications put it, that you are on this score the following, that today there is a problem that
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nikolai maradovich is right precisely in the presence of a human resource. the human resource that today in ukraine is slowly ending and those who are ready to turn their heads to solve problems or give their lives for solving the problems of the european union is getting smaller. today, the united west is looking for a country that is ready to take on , so to speak, those risks that will appear in the near future , and let’s call it that, from the point of view of human resources, it becomes exactly later today, with regard to the remark that poland does not have a fleet . it's a slightly different system here. she does not need it today, since poland is considered exclusively as a donor country, which should become a buffer zone and suffer
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the maximum mm. let's say the costs confrontation with russia i would call it that, but it is done consciously. uh, polish stalksmand. why because, in all likelihood, he was promised certain preferences for this, which we can find out a little later because? they do not like all these questions. uh, so let's say public discussions in the conditions that nato does not become a party to the conflict in ukraine, it is preparing another ram in the face of a possible reserve within the polish army. yes, sir, we have repeatedly recalled ukraine, in your opinion, how the mood is being formed in czech society today, and in favor of a speedy peace in ukraine , at the level of the ruling circles, which in a word, which
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is not used at all, and i would say, it has become something erotic ; how is anyone moving towards a reasonable peaceful solution to this whole conflict? so, uh, the presence of uh, hundreds of thousands of ukrainians, we still somehow aggravate the critical mood towards this conflict, because a colleague. yes, we wanted to draw an addition attention that it is remarque that the word peace is forgotten in europe, it corresponds to reality just the other day, the chief of the general staff. the czech republic said the country should prepare for war, that is, the consciousness of the population of the same czech republic is being prepared for a possible development of events initially, so that anything
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happens, let's say, the conflict must be prepared for the population, including the actual creation of a general atmosphere around this event, absolutely right it was further evgenievich about readiness for a big war. this is very very dangerous dangerously. thank you very much for participating in our program. i would like to add dmitry viktorovich surzhik, executive secretary of the association of historians of the union state, dmitry viktorovich to our broadcast. well, throughout our program, you can see with us what we are talking about and very correctly noted that from the rhetoric of the leaders of the 21st century. truth has disappeared the word peace. and so, i think, many of our viewers know the legendary film the meeting place can not be changed, which was filmed based on a book that had one of names of the era of mercy. that's how it happened that we
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said goodbye to this era of mercy in the 21st century by talking about how mercy disappeared from let's say european hearts. well, you need to remember how it all developed. after all, everything developed in the nineties, there was a development of the soviet heritage. it seemed that everyone would live in peace. and then nationalism appears in the same poland, nationalism is honored, cherished, they remember jozef pilsudski, his idea between the sea in order to spread between the black baltic adriatic seas and such imperialism appears, and in order for this imperialism to support polish imperialism, its justification is required, it is necessary to find a common enemy. and here it is, please, always russia - it's easy and simple sea, let's talk in more detail. the only thing i would like to pay attention to. nikita maratovich. here, how do you
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assess the likelihood that poland will try to create nuclear weapons or, for example , the same americans it is enough that their missiles were placed on polish territory. i am i presume that the americans have enough potential opportunities. the replacement of at least tactical nuclear weapons, especially since this has been talked about for several decades in poland, in general, there is radiophobia is a very important issue, and for 29 years projects for the construction of several nuclear power plants of civilian nuclear power plants have been discussed and for 29 years, and local governments and party-political coalition - this is blocking not because it is unprofitable, but because it will go against the votes of the voters, by the way, it is very important for us to take into account, from the point of view of
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counterpropanda, to say that poland is not completely ready in terms of the creation of these weapons, it is also impossible, because polish scientists are actively working in european centers, and even at the beginning of the last century among polish scientists who worked. e in france and great britain was enough. e people who were engaged in physics, that is, in general, perhaps nuclear blackmail expressed his opinion at the csto summit, president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko, let's listen. i want the leadership to declare willingness to host nuclear weapons. it's good that the americans still have to their due , sensible people who perfectly understand the dangers of nuclear games, especially with unpredictable partners. nikolai evgenievich
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from the lips of the polish leadership already sounds ready, but in order to host nuclear weapons. well, after all, this is already, but it goes beyond the permissible and how belarus should react to this in today's conditions of the development of the political situation. it is no longer beyond the scope of what is permissible today, something is happening that is not it was probably literally. well, i don't know 2-3 years ago. it was unrealistic. today, anything. moreover, we must pay tribute to poland, it is at the forefront of the fight against russia and the entire post-soviet space, so it is not necessary to say that this is impossible. this is a real possible development question. why is this at the moment from the point of view of the military is inexplicable. because the flying time from germany, the flying time from poland is not much
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different from the effectiveness of weapons, but now let's say the most important thing is to contain uh, nuclear weapons, the necessary infrastructure. she is expensive. and the country that plans to have its own means of nuclear attack or destruction, let's call it that, it must assume that a huge amount of money will be spent on maintaining the development and maintenance of the polish economy. dmitry viktorovich is not ready today please tell me, is the polish society ready for such militant rhetoric that sounds from the lips of the polish leadership or in its basically no one asks. well, firstly, let's start with the fact that no one really asks the polish society. i would like to turn to my colleague and say that you are not considering the case if the poles themselves
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expect that the americans will invest in infrastructure and create these facilities for nuclear weapons there. this is the first, and secondly, look at the polish society repeatedly. well, for example, in the case of legislation, both ports came out en masse. and what? and no one hears him, no one listens to him, creative society is heterogeneous, but from the point of view of propaganda, from the point of view of winding up anti-russian hysteria, from the point of view of diverting attention from internal problems. these are all new steps, all new nightmares about russia about military hysteria. they are very, very in demand, so fear is hard to get off this path. if i want to enter into controversy in precisely answer the first question. i have repeatedly considered options for the development of events in poland and in europe as
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a whole, including in my works, but there is another situation. e. the nuclear factor is used by poland only to increase its weight in the european union, and in order to become a leading state. today it does not have the potential or the potential with a capital letter to implement all this in a short time. i emphasize it in a short time, but it can be a conductor of the united states' interest and deployment. perhaps on its territory, but it is not justified from a military point of view. and by the way, notice literally one remark i will allow myself after britain's exit from the european union, many experts talked about the inevitable beauty of this union. and then they said who would take the leading place, especially after the departure of chancellor angela merkel, they talked about the macron, and at the same time there was no answer. and now, after a certain time, we see which place he wants and plans
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to occupy more. and by the way, i want to note that we have repeatedly contacted. polish politicians of different political groups of political parties and they refused to join us in the belarusian television on our tv channel to effect. perhaps you will get fear, and there are indeed problems after they express a critical position against the leadership of the current european union. these problems are serious enough and they will get worse, but they will get worse relatively slowly. all these military plans are military expansion plans. uh, military infrastructure. really. eh, expensive. then the question arises, who will pay the economy for more than 30 years has passed very well much better in compared with the starting value, than from tony latvia lithuania hungary there bulgaria romania even germany but this growth did not seem endless. he has now exhausted a further significant portion of this
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growth. this is the use of the potential of europe now the big question. will brussels be able to finance more in the same way as before, when there is a choice, well, it's rude who to warm the belgian old man or the polish one? true, but that's it, here a new factor is turned on, which is called the war on the eastern flank of nato. what is the name and here here poland plays just its own game, which allows it to convince the entire european union and those who today want to warm the belgian old man that fear and all the problems come from the east, and we, as a buffer, demand a different attitude towards ourselves, which today and what is happening and what politicians, including polish politicians, are talking about. that is, today there is a dragging of resources from one pocket to another, using the
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possibilities, including the european union, including the capabilities of nato, and this baton, which called the war in ukraine and the danger and threat from the east, but there are more competitors performing exactly the same song. in riga, let alone vilnius , it is performed by a chorus for three voices and 24 hours a day. these are not those competitors, not those competitors to the politician's quest. this is well added about its 1.500 km border with russia and would like to conduct a historical digression for our viewers. after all, 100 years ago, the polish leader of the yuz. peltsudsky voiced his dream to unite the eastern european states under his leadership project. he named romantically between the seas, this idea has been forgotten in modern poland and how it affects the historical discussion of today in our
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short story. kaczynski’s team, who are in power in warsaw, has been trying for several years to breathe new life into the grandiose geopolitical project of marshal pilsudski, known as between morier or intermarium 100 years ago, the polish leader set out to unite a large group of new countries that had formed on the ruins of the russian german and austro-hungarian empires into a certain confederation. she was to occupy the entire space between the three seas of the baltic black and the adriatic and to become a reliable buffer between the germans and russians between the seas pilsudski failed to build, however, his ideological successors believe in the prospects of this project at a new stage in 2016 at the initiative of poland and croatia within the eu the union was created from 12 countries of eastern central europe, the initiative of the three seas or trimorye, its goal is to oust gazprom from europe with
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the help of the united states. that is why poland and the croatian. and lng terminals for american liquefied gas were actively built the conflict in ukraine and the obvious crisis in the eu gives warsaw hopes that london and washington will give the go-ahead to poland's acceptance of the role of a regional great power, which will rebuild the region in a powerful counterbalance to russia and will do it without looking back on the more moderate elites in berlin and paris with ukraine, the process of merging into one political community this year is going by leaps and bounds. a key obstacle to the realization of warsaw's geopolitical ambitions belarus what makes minsk a priority goal destructive efforts of the polish authorities? dmitry viktorovich between morier there is a large-scale geopolitical concept of the reorganization of the entire east of europe, we will talk about it later, but still, for starters, i want to ask about a more applied polish idea, the so-called commonwealth of three
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nations, which means the formation of a federal state, and as part of poland, belarus lithuania and ukraine and, in fact, a new empire centered in warsaw, in your opinion, are the actions of the polish government under the guise of the current conflict in ukraine rather targeted for the implementation of precisely this task than for the creation of some new amorphous association in the format between the seas. you see, i believe that these are equal tasks and the polish leadership plays on several boards at once or makes bets in several directions at once, on the one hand, fix itself and fix fix itself and fix its eastern neighbors very hard, on the other hand, softly. uh, to introduce the idea between the seas to their western neighbors in order to get
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support on global international platforms for their aspirations both within eastern europe and at a higher geopolitical level , so that these are equivalent goals, and they are combined in them there are no contradictions. yes, nikolai, why didn’t pinsunsky succeed, by the way, in terms of leadership qualities. he was a man of a different scale than the current polish leader. so that's why? because, and the polish idea of ​​\u200b\u200bfederation or unification, eh, warsaw perceives as a blow from armored hussars to light tatar cavalry? that is, how to pass and cut everyone with a knife without taking into account interests of prague, some bratislava there, and so on and so forth. and this is the first second, when pilsudski was there, turkey was not a factor in european politics. today, the intermarium, even in
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their relatively rigid legal framework, is a big problem for turkey. part of this territory of turkey perceives it as its zone of influence in this way, and from this point of view, the poles will not succeed, and finally, we should not forget about the germanopol contradictions. the less the voice shouting from washington is heard, the more problems will return in the relationship. warsaw is slowly disappearing, they won’t fight, but there will be competition and it’s already clear how some german car assembly plants are carefully leaving poland. about the lower level policy. this is geopolitics geopolitics is a long game and the ideas that are embedded in the essence of these processes are often incomprehensible to those people who
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are observers at this moment. here is what concerns poland they have the idea that my colleagues were talking about, it’s right and from sea to sea they can solve this problem on one condition, their fate is now completely connected with the united states, if the united states remains the hegemon for some reason and manages to maintain leadership positions in the world. here, poland has a chance to realize its own idea in this case, poland with the absorption of part of ukraine and access to the black sea. here you are between the sea. yes, they will not solve the problem with a large extension, but here there was a bone in the throat. this is belarus that performed in 2020 and withstood the onslaught. after all, the main funding was dealt the main blow precisely through poland through its special services. and through those potential forces that worked against our
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state. we survived for the moment, but if we succumb to a certain trend so to speak. and reassure ourselves that we won, or survived, we can miss the second impact. poland will not stop in the near future from solving this geopolitical task. united states somehow to me the materials of the meeting of transport workers of ukraine and poland and lithuania fell into the hands of the main idea to make a corridor for ukrainian goods to klaipeda and so it looks like this is how we deliver goods to poland , reload onto a european cart, then bring, uh, through poland for lithuania, reload to a soviet cart in lithuania soviet track. yes, in short , they considered that it was idiocy from an economic point of view, it was cheaper to drown these goods in the dnieper in this way. why do i mean that without belarus, this whole structure, in principle, cannot exist
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fully join, please tell me, could you imagine that poland would take such an active position of support? ukraine, ukraine, even for the volyn massacre, they answered and did not apologize, and at the same time what moods now prevail in ukraine to assume. yes, it was quite possible. let's take a look at the history of the ninetieth year of poland and 2020. poland is two different countries. these are two different economies. and most importantly, these are two different peoples who, over these 30 years, have been completely reformatted in terms of their attitude towards russia. to belarus today we don’t care for them even as we didn’t say the polish people and that’s it. the rest of us today are eastern rats, this is said on all polish channels, it works for it today. uh, how is he history
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? yes, that is, it will take 20 years for the consciousness of the polish population to form. for 20 years, the idea has been formed that once poland was offended and today this offense is being formed. let's say it should be allowed, but it can be resolved only at the expense of the territory of belarus, which constantly in their photographs within the borders of the thirty -ninth year and at the expense of claims to ukraine. but since in belarusian, let's say, directly, as the military say the direction. uh, nothing works and nothing will work, then the idea of ​​ukraine with ukraine seems to be very interesting for warsaw. there everything is weaker and weaker, so to speak loosely you can climb viktorovich i see your desire to participate in our discussion. just a minute more, we will display a map of the project between the seas for our viewers to consider it in more detail, and here's a question for you , no matter how beautiful it is camouflaged
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slogans, it is clear that the main thing for eastern european peoples in the entry. the european union had access to billions of euros in bloc funds that went towards infrastructure development and many other things. well, between morier, in general, today it looks like a project or like allies, it is completely incomprehensible who in it will pay for what and how for these geopolitical experiments, and therefore, in your opinion, this concept is initially incapacitated. how do you think not life is capable of even so. yes, looking why do you orient it, if you orient it under the general idea of ​​​​soviet-phobia of russophobia, the unification of all countries that somehow suffered from soviet russia of the russian federation, then why not, and if these countries also
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call themselves the last outpost of western civilization, which is western civilization and must pay for them here. this is a borderline position, then, why not. it works in order to extort money. a short pause right now, after which we will return to our discussion again. and war games and geopolitical poland's ambitions are speaking right now, it is important to note that today poland's relations with the european union are in an extremely difficult phase. poland blames the european union as a whole and its leaders, arguing that against the backdrop of moscow's aggressive policy, the eu lacks the political will to effectively oppose berlin's russia, officials in brussels, according to the same marowetsky, do not heed advice from warsaw, which is
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much more experienced in matters of relations with why did the conflict start and how the conflict could end poland and the eu, tell you right now. disputes over the rule of law dissatisfaction with judicial reform mutual hostility, verbal threats and blackmail relations between poland and the european union have been extremely tense over the past two years, we have none. guarantees that the polish government will change the model of behavior and disrespect for european legislation soon from the mouth of the secretary general of the ruling party, the right and justice for the european union became threats to use all weapons from the arsenal, including the possibility of suing brussels to veto eu initiatives and create an alliance to change the eu presidency, in response to this, the eu decided to freeze a package of assistance for recovery from the pandemic in the amount of almost 36
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billion euros and despite the fact that that later the european commission. still, she unfrozen the aid package, warsaw decided to find a new source of income , the polish parliament unexpectedly billed germany, calling it compensation for the results of the second world war in the amount of a trillion dollars prime minister. poland even sent a note to the frg with a proposal to start negotiations on the payment of reparations, many experts associate such an aggressive position of warsaw with the desire to take a more significant one. to a person in the eu, europe is now in a kind of geopolitical slumber, and in the meantime, someone else is not necessarily beating the world, as we want it, so either we will quickly wake up, or time will slip through our fingers and europe will lose its significance in the geopolitical alignment however such a plan. maybe bad to end for poland in search of debtors, the country may be left without allies at all, which in the current sanctions time will make poland an outsider. for god's sake let them demand. eh, maybe they
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should compensate us for something, but the question arises. but this period until the thirty-ninth year that we were. what damage have we done? that is, you need to be friends with your head a little, before you demand compensation from the germans, think that, uh, you also owe someone. yes, and much has been said about the fact that the current warlike course is in many ways reflecting the mood of the ruling nationalist pizza party. and here are their opponents from the team. donald. tuska is also no different. in fact , constructive relations with the republic of belarus and the russian federation, but although they are militarists and do not dream. about the commonwealth from the sea home to the sea, but what are the chances for us to see a more moderate government in warsaw following the results of the elections next year, or vice versa. you know how snowball will only
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increase this escalation. how do you think, you know, uh, for many years of communication with the poles , i did not meet work in poland, and a pole is not a militarist. but i met people who were more, so to speak, aggressive and less aggressive . more aggressive-minded people say that the minimum minimum is the border of 1772, and such modest militarists say no, well, okay, well, what's there? well, god bless him, but within the boundaries of the thirty- ninth year, we will agree, you know, i would like to continue you right away, since it was about money, there was a whole episode and the story, you know, money they don’t smell, and it understands perfectly well, poland doesn’t care where the finances from germany and the united states come from anywhere, but it must solve the tasks that exist, and i didn’t say in vain at the very
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beginning somewhere about the phrase that so far the united states is still the hegemon in the world and has not lost this status until then it will feel great in europe because the european union works to the tune of the united states, specifically ursula fondleyn decides everything that is dictated to her so let's say, the united states and nothing more the question is the following, while poland is pursuing the interests of the united states in europe , freezing funds, not allocating their funds, she will be forgiven a lot, a lot will be forgiven. yes, they will scold her and explain that today we will not give you, but tomorrow they will, yes, with a defrost, exactly where dear friends will give. after all, the confiscation of russian frozen money is now being prepared; everything for this is being done on even the sponsors of terrorism
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of the russian federation have already reached the un level at the european level. that is, step by step step by step, realizing that there is no reason for it, ursula vonderlein said, we are working to withdraw these funds and everything is being done for this, and our closest neighbor absolutely sees her piece in this pie. precisely the main polish idea to help ukraine well, how to make warsaw act as a mechanism well, relatively speaking, poland will receive 300 billion to help ukraine 30 will go to ukraine, three will go to ursoli von derain, the rest will remain warsaw well, something like that, plus or minus a billion . by the way, remember dud's statement yes, here so joyful and, in fact, probably aimed at building favorable relations with ukraine. but then it was said that there are no borders between us. the same can be perceived differently, you know, here about the duda. overall, he is a great speaker. you have to watch it, so to
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speak. e very detailed and not only what he says, well, with what facial expressions he says it, please can you pay attention? yes, very charismatic, therefore, he should immediately say, and the statement of the parliamentarians. eu e which literally was yesterday. e, the polish one, who nu said that the european union does not solve problems the way poland would like and that they are all bureaucrats here. yes? it is true they are bureaucrats, but they became bureaucrats the moment they tried not to do what was needed more, please. dmitrievich yes. i would still like to return to the question, can more moderate forces of power in poland come? anti-russian military hysteria. this means
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showing people that their coal has grown two or three times, for example, that they have almost no fish meat, in many places the meat is a week old. this means showing people what day they live in, so hysteria will rise, so they will remember again. this is the law that zelensky introduced that the poles are given equal rights, and they will play with the ukrainians on these imperial ambitions. definitely , one should not expect good things, and this confirmation is today's same actions military actions on the territory of ukraine, the main mercenary contingent is the poles and please note that there are not only military personnel, not only those people who are ready. eh, those who know how to handle weapons have already appeared who are informationally prepared in
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order to expand poland from as much as possible and there are many of them. absolutely for sure, and the fact is that in many units, e, the polish army, especially the ground ones, and for many years, decades, special courses in the russian language have been working, and since well, what to hide, uh, a significant part of uh, hmm, direct u activity on the line of contact and on the one hand and the other is carried out in russian, then, unlike, say, mercenaries from brazil, uh, to the poles, well , there are no big problems understanding what is happening and the polish military they keep some current charters, and the foundations of the soviet ones. well, let's say the socialist statutes and the planning system there is much more. well, even look at how the parade of polish troops looks, it looks. well , if you change them into our uniform, it looks our way. these are all varieties of the european e
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military system. people coming from somewhere well, excuse me from isil places or latin america , they need a month or two to prepare, and then they can only speak at fronterovic. and here's another question, looking ahead, we can assume that any compromise that will concern the future of ukraine will leave dissatisfied in the first place among ukrainian nationalists. now, won’t it happen, so that the radicals, dissatisfied with the world, through reasonable concessions, will simply leave for the same poland, for example, and with the support of warsaw, some new protest moods, new conflicts, will be prepared. and that is exactly why warsaw really wants to, but has not yet taken direct action. uh, well, let's say, connected with the conduct of the peacekeeping contingent or some kind of humanitarian protection forces,
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or well, words in russian and polish, a huge number of ukrainian can be something. to think, but there is nothing yet, because it is easy to enter lviv. well, who will resist when moving from lublin to lvov one more moment, and get out of it is already impossible for the polish army to leave lvov, but the separatists and those who support a different point of view as a result of, say, the negotiation process there still do not need it. there is no need to leave for poland. i am almost sure, and this is one of the scenarios for the development of the event, that they simply will not give the opportunity to switch to dialogue precisely within the framework of a political dialogue. that's just where it will be used. uh, the separatist element. and these forces will simply throw them into this furnace to incite events at that very moment, that's how it was
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a rocket was used, for example, when there are already thoughts about some kind of joint actions. transition to another level of dialogue, a provocation immediately appears, which allows everything to be put in place, and here all available resources will be used in order to prevent a diplomatic option for resolving events in the estate there cannot be two pans the estate one pan and then already , yes, the castellan, that is, the manager of the estate, so to speak, the manager, maybe a ukrainian. i'm sorry, but damn it, and it will only take it easy, of course, dmitry viktorovich but tell me, please, i think you heard about the incident, and when the pranksters, after a rocket hit and the death of two polish farmers of the ukrainian rocket, called mr. dude, introducing himself there, one of them introduced himself as a macron, and now dialogue took place. and what's important? duda replied that you think i need a war with russia, and by the
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way, these are essentially sound thoughts. they said, i honestly didn’t even expect this, because all uh, international experts were afraid that that poland, on the contrary, will straighten its shoulders right now, will put forward its claims to the russian federation, and a serious war may already break out. well, we will take into account the peculiarities of, let's say, the psychology of different eastern european states and the one who barks loudly does not often bite. there is such an english saying, therefore, playing on foreign territory, in a proxy war is one thing, but engaging in real hostilities with your own conventional forces is completely different and there are concerns here. poland has very very large ones. yes we have to
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to complete our most interesting discussion, so the final words from each guest today nikolayevich please. we don't want war, but together with the republic, belarus is ready. neighbors, but you need to live in peace, but not every neighbor loves the one who is nearby. i hope that in the near future we will be able to find a common language with ours. perhaps at the moment there is a dialogue or the creation of a dialogue between the leadership of the republic of belarus and poland, or it is a wall, which, unfortunately, always can. for this, mutual interest, while it is from poland no dmitry viktorovich please any war, we are now in a geopolitical confrontation. this is a very complex and multifaceted phenomenon, and one must always remember one's national interests and
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keep faith in victory without this, without some simple but daily work for the sake of a common victory, nothing will work. i am grateful, dear guest, for today's extremely topical conversation and at the end of the program i will say that the combination of historical claims of the tightness of the european framework for the ambitions of a part of the elite, they are pushing modern poland onto the path of militarization and sharp confrontation with its eastern neighbors, and this path is very dangerous and creates patrons. overseas, there is no less headache than politicians in moscow in a sensational conversation with pranksters, the president. anzhi duda said you think i need a war with russia and i must admit i don't have a clear answer to this question. but now it is authorized to declare. the ambitions of the polish
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authorities are leading europe to a big war the key to success of any game of erudition is calm and confidence please translate into russian belarusian word. the volga region the volga region and the volga region how much you need to be sure of your answer in order to multiply it in triplicate, both adults and children adhere to this rule andrey valerievich hello. i answered this question no, because the basic unit of length in si is the meter and is an intellectually
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entertaining show that motivates you to stretch your brain too. you pressed answer. if you do not know, you can not answer the wrong answers - that's minus five points. i just remind you to watch on belarus 24 tv channel. in times of rapid change, it is important for us to show you. the main thing is that the country has fixed a clear position, which it adheres to. today we keep history, value the achievements of generations and honor the traditions of global perspectives, high diplomacy and social research. however, the fact remains that dialogue platforms have started working. and this is a chance for everyone to be heard, we will draw detailed conclusions, see exclusive interviews and talk about the main events on the mainstream. watch on
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we will show modern belarus from an unusual angle , discover the unique belarus and its culture, provide an opportunity to see and understand what is not visible through the eyes of local residents. and when minsky arrived here, there is silence. calm, uh,
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and the weather is good. foreigners are very friends about life in belarus. they are always there, and they helped me a lot, and they are from the critique of character. i feel very comfortable, i sometimes read my own at home, as i have already got used to. eh, not at all. customs. see in the program a look at belarus on belarus 24 tv channel. m. you will have to relax your muscles and strain your brain. what is the international football federation? alexander is fifa fifa of course my friends what a surprise? you believe in yourself today, confident in your sports knowledge. i'm sure intellectually entertaining
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project. heading is very fun and fervent, because we, in principle, all liberated people , went. watch on tv channel belarus 24. the tradition of cooking dishes from grated potatoes it matters for every inhabitant of belarus, and it just so happened that since the end of the 19th century. this dish certainly became part of the everyday life of every inhabitant in the course of studying the internalization of the expedition. e our cultural institutions, our colleagues in the regions recorded 235, and unique recipes. and, of course, the basis of the famous recipe. uh, the dishes from this potato are well-known actions. yes
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, it's fried potatoes. this egg is, well, some kind of minimal action. well, at the same time, each region turned out to have some local features of these recipes, and in the first place. this is due to some special fillings that are always offered. the filling can be not only meat, not only vegetables, let's say, although it is very sometimes found. uh, such exotic fillings, for example, in the form of zucchini in the form of beans, even in the form of cottage cheese. well, cottage cheese is not sweet. and here it is for potato pancakes. and, of course, the peculiarity is that invariably hmm, this dish is provided with some kind of hmm, let's say , an addition in the form of, uh, some kind of sour cream sauce here are additives, therefore in every area.

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