they are connected not only with the russian federation but also with the strengthening of belarus itself. eh, and i think that the poles are not so unambiguous about the potential of belarus, including their political one, and those statements that it makes about raising rates are connected precisely with this. i would also watch it this way, because time moves on. that's right for 100 years will be remembered for 100 years. and now we have to prepare like this, if suddenly they just have something in the head of this stupid polish elite . remember 100 years you will remember that they climbed on the belarusian, like your ancestors, nothing will happen. er, still. i would like to get out of this very dense discussion to some kind of you know such vectors on what fairway. what should the attention of our society be focused on? so we started by saying that there is a global understanding of oneself in the state. yes , because the improvement of the constitution this is democracy in the form of an updated vns. but politically. and parties that will

approach more responsibly to the understanding that you are not only fighting for power. but you are like a patriot fighting for power in parallel. we see that the state is working to not stand alone against threats in bishkek, but we ourselves showed in bishkek that the president calls on his partners not only to strengthen. uh, connections within, the union is not only, well, finally give up the barriers. when when they now he proposes to scale up and already hold summits together with the sco together with the brix, that is, we see that they have a clear understanding of our authorities. from where and where are we going, that's all of us, what is needed in order for this the path was the most effective, it outwardly outlines all the proposals of belarus e, they are e stable for a long time. we just didn’t pay much attention to it in the old days, but today this is clearly not what belarus is proposing, this is, first of all, proactive work so that we don’t fit in,

then at some stage, but form a new reality, oh , which we are talking about a lot right now and er the financial system. here is the circulatory system, which was the expression that has spread through the media is exactly the stabilizer that is needed today, if we are talking about industrial cooperation, then this story is long, it cannot be carried out simultaneously, then financial issues are within the framework. er, i'm eu and wider for the region. this is what needs to be done now is what will be stabilized from us today, it is very important to preserve and increase the entire power to ensure security and economic development. and this we can do. let's be honest with the world when it's divided into blocks only when we make our clear priority, and this priority has been implemented. this is the idea of ​​the president of belarus, what let's do. the platform of the eec plush plus brix for our

export-oriented economy for our security system is very important. today we must influence the emerging new architecture of the collective east and play not the last violin there. yes , we are 9 1/2 million citizens, but there is an example of the european union, there is nato holland belgium are also small countries, but they included and very well included. thank you, unlike the baltics. yeah. here the idea was voiced that belarus is playing ahead of the curve. this is absolutely true, and the point here is not only in the economy, but really in the changing architecture of the world. we see that this is the global policy that was carried out earlier by the strange collective west, but it is now in crisis and, on the contrary, the east is now on the rise, countries are developing not only in terms of economy, but also in terms of awareness of their place in this world and in general. we

we understand that we are on the way with these countries, which are now determined by the coach of world development and determine, uh, progressive development. we still hope that the world is not facing regression and a gloomy future, not the death of civilization. and yet further development and perfection. i think that's exactly why the president is trying, uh, to integrate into this part of humanity with this part of humanity. and in general, belarus should not just be as they say, like everyone else, but should find its place and stand out in this general diversity. as they say, in this whistler our color should be red green be all of that. i sometimes understand people who, looking at the events taking place in the world around us , would like us to close our merke , deal only with our own problems and live in peace anywhere, without interfering, despite these geopolitical processes, it will not work out here. the trouble is that they won't give it, and today there is a

plus one. so, when i saw lukashenka's last statement on the joint summit, on the idea of ​​further integration within the eu, we discussed the model a lot in this studio the future that we can offer the countries of the post-soviet space to the belarusians of russia today i see this model of the future. i see that it is in the head and the president is very clearly formulated. how to protect our national interests and how to make not only russia, but the entire post-soviet space stronger, and in my opinion, the only way to do this now is for everyone to do their job for politicians, their economist for the military, and then. i think that everything will work out for us. thank you very much for participating in this conversation in this program for today everything is happy.

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hello, my name is vera oreshka. i am a traitor lawyer of the minsk city bar association. i would like to talk today about the profession of a lawyer in general, as well as about the admin city board, which this year, on december 30, turns 41 years old. hello on the air program say, do not be silent in the studio victoria popova and tatyana shcherbina and the lawyer vera oreshka is visiting us today. good afternoon. good afternoon.

hello vera gennadievna tell us how it happened that the minsk city colleagues of lawyers, the youngest in the republic , turned out to be, so before there were only regional colleagues and at one time just before the new year 40, almost 41 years ago, on december 30 , it was formed, a group, you can say lawyers from the regional collegium, a decision was made at the level. uh, the city began to grow and demanded just more lawyers already for the city. minsk not only for the region. and now we can say that the city bar meets the needs of minsk residents. i 'm sure that's your speciality. civil housing family and criminal law. which of them account for? most often , cases collide everywhere. primarily. these are family disputes. this is the dissolution of marriage between spouses determining the place of residence and children. or we also call it we have, how can you say slang children's disputes

the division of property between spouses in the absence of a marriage contract, or challenging the same marriage contract. this is a fairly wide range of disputes that are considered by the courts. well, we noticed that more and more specialized and legal consultations began to appear in our country. e on corporate law and tax litigation and pre-trial mediation, transport law, land disputes and real estate transactions and so on. so this is an incomplete list. and, that is, it turns out that the demand for narrow specialists is increasing. yes, indeed, the demand for narrow specialists is increasing and, uh, it seems to me that there is, taking into account the fact that legislation is changing very quickly, and narrow specialists are currently in demand, and there are many more specialized ones. consultations were formed here in the city board. due to the fact that there was a reform in the twenty-first year, and the legal profession, the law on the advocacy of advocacy in the republic of belarus was adopted in the current

edition. and accordingly, it can be said that they were abolished, that is, such forms of advocacy as lawyer heroes, lawyers, acting individually at the moment, lawyers carry out their activities only in legal consultations. and this, among other things, led to the creation of specialized consultations, because many both hire lawyers and lawyers who cover their activities individually. they specialized in a certain category. and you personally supported this reform. as you think, it is timely necessary. i think it was necessary. why do we all remember, probably about uh, 2020 and unfortunately, some colleagues, fortunately, there are not so many of them. they forgot that we need to cover only professional activities, lawyers, they have always been out of politics . that is, this rule is our professional rule, we protect any people, regardless of their political views, and therefore, to my great

regret, only because of the not very large number of people. uh, how would it be negative at some time and uh, the opinion of all the lawyers uh-huh but you said that and in the tenth year, the picture began to draw. yes, in the tenth year, too, but, of course, it wasn’t on such a scale, and in the tenth year there was also a slightly smaller number of lawyers. but as for individually practicing lawyers, they were probably unhappy that they were abolished, damn it, as a result of the reform of the legs, many and they when the reform took place last year, lawyers did leave the profession, but there are not so many of them, most lawyers. i'll say 80 percent, even 87. that's it. under 90, they all moved into legal advice. why did the city board create new consultations so that all lawyers there , regardless of the form of their activity, were given the opportunity to remain in the

profession, which means you supported it, because a lawyer should stay in the team, yes, but it seems that it was their time. reform it was caused by time. i would say so, but with time and the need to still change something, because when a lawyer first worked, individually or, uh, bureau, it could be said how they would live even in his life, not the life of a colleague, that is, such a separation began, yes, already in a professional environment. uh, they were leaving. why didn't they stick there? no? no, they simply decided that they would carry out their activities in legal advice. they don’t want in the twelfth year such forms of activity were created by the law of the advocacy of advocacy, as lawyers who feel the activity of an individual and, uh, lawyers take it there, but hmm there was such a transitional period when the so-called. we also have the name lawyers, licensees,

they, uh, in the declarative principle, received a license, that is, there were legal broadcasts. but when the experience of work on attestation of lawyers is over 5 years, then according to the declarative principle, they received, uh, a lawyer's license, here are legal consultations. here, for example, when it was all before the twelfth year. yes, this is the lawyers of the student bench itself, as after passing the exam for admission to the membership of a colleague, this and duty on the forty-sixth is the provision of legal assistance free of charge. that is, from the very beginning. uh, man in the social yes, yes, that is it here. uh, you understand, lawyers, when they already came and received a license according to the declarative principle, but they were not included in this legal education e, like uh, well, lawyers of legal consultations, heroes covering activities, individually, still provided an order of magnitude less, and legal assistance . that's precisely social, as they sometimes

say, well, in simple terms, it was impossible to oblige them under the law on advocacy. we have only two tasks before us. this is the provision of legal assistance on a professional basis by citizens to business entities and legal education of the citizens of the city's colleagues provides a lot of this so -called, if probably it will be wrong social assistance. that is, at the expense of funds to colleagues. we hold a lot of promotions, including free consultations. what other significant changes did this reform bring? uh, in addition to the fact that law firms have disappeared, the three-year-old senior individuals, uh, in order for a person to come for an internship at colleagues and subsequently. uh, passed the exam and became a lawyer, and the city board very interested, of course, in the influx of young personnel. and this is important. it's still new. well, new life is modern people. this is important for a colleague. you already mentioned the phrase that a lawyer should be out

of politics, nevertheless, the events of 2020 showed, yes, uh, some forget about it there were people who surprised you with their behavior in the twentieth year there were people who really surprised and, honestly saying, some of them then and left their profession a little, but they really surprised you very much with them after that communicated. no, they just left the profession. some of them left. what norm of behavior of colleagues, in your opinion, must be included in the code of professional ethics in the new editions of the rules of professional ethics, and it seems to me that it answers in full. e. hmm, by the luck of the lawyer, were included, including such innovations as communication with the media investigation. that is what is real. this i think it may be to some extent. it was necessary mandatory communication. no we should to bring information that is true again, going back to the

twentieth year, there were some publications and speeches by individual colleagues. i repeat once again, there are not so many of them, but which hmm, as it turned out later, did not correspond to reality, because people were subsequently either expelled from colleagues, or the license was terminated, well, their departure, and colleagues and legal advice in general are very much like- then they suffered from this or other people took their place. yes , there really was some outflow, taking into account reforms of 2021, but hmm, this is absolutely not critical for the city colleague even now, taking into account the cancellation of the three-year service. we are waiting for the influx of new young specialists. well, you 're talking all the time about how there were people who surprised, that is, they were some notable figures. they seemed to be printed at that time in the media and in telegram on various channels, that is, public figures. yes, at least, and you were personally

acquainted with them, of course, because from the age of 12 i was the deputy chairman of the city. look, of course, i knew all of them, including reading publications. it was our professional duty and entertainment. probably, well, it is difficult for us, of course, without specific examples. you don't want, is there any difference? what do you think between the european and belarusian lawyer today? and if there is something, as such, there is no difference, for one simple reason, because a lawyer is a profession that she can say, maybe with different powers, but she, uh, is absolutely the same and say that there is some difference, well, the same profession, our duty is to protect people and represent their interests. that's all, that is, it's the same as in europe. well, in the republic of belarus, the conclusions of the profession for more than 20 years have been the same. yes and that's the kind of questions people

asked. here for these 20 years. there are some , let's say, changes from what issues were more relevant 20 years ago and now almost nothing has changed. it’s just that at some points the legislation itself has changed, too, the code of marriages and families, and so on, but people have the same problems this, well, for the most part, these are domestic problems. that is, people apply for those issues that they have in the life of the inheritance of the apartment. you are dividing property between spouses arguing about children. maybe you have noticed that you have become, uh, divorced more often, unfortunately, probably more, and divorce has become more, well, really, probably, more often you are divorced. there are always two to blame. here i am, as a person specializing in honor, as a lawyer specializing in this category of cases, one cannot say that someone is more right than someone guilty, but always divorced, two are guilty and , unfortunately, not at the moment, especially young couples e do not make efforts and

do not work in their family, but immediately write a statement of claim for divorce. they come to you with offers. tim still work hard or your case is competent, including a psychologist, i can say this right away, because people come to a lawyer with a problem. they don't come, because today is his birthday, they come only with the problem that they currently have. i want to divorce there were me, but married couples and such people close enough to me when they came and asked me to write an application for divorce. i really talked and talk. you have to think very hard, a small child is still quite uh, well, work a little, but these are not only people close to you. and if there is frost from the street, so what do i always ask a person who came to get a divorce. are you sure what you did they say in emotion at the moment,

yes, we are sure and correct, but for if they have minor children, therefore exist three-month necessarily. the term for reconciliation is the norm, it is, as it were, acting now. yes, i wanted to ask you, these three months are left, three months are left . this is in case there are minor children, or we have a dispute and a couple. maybe she is given time to cool down for sure, yes, uh, and saved, you many. you can say that, well, some have saved for sure. do you have any observations about the disputes about children. yes, you said children's disputes, you call them in your slang. and more often fathers began to fight for the right educate this, by the way, this is what you asked about 20 years ago. it really is. this category has really become an order of magnitude larger and very , you know, what is surprising for me, but it was 10 years ago. these were isolated cases when the mother left the child to the father e of a good age. yes, of different ages,

including three-year-olds and five-year-olds here. but now, unfortunately. not that it has become more common, in general you associate it. again, it seems to me that it just might already be, everything flows a little in life is changing. and what changes that you have? i mean, just the same, what exactly did the fathers begin to defend their rights more? you just said sorry. and why unfortunately, after all, the father is also our father, and the father and mother have equal rights, yes, and before, when the mother left, here is the child to the father. i will repeat again. it really was a very recent visit. renowned athlete. vasilisa marlyuka, when she said that there was such a situation in her family. we were very surprised. eh, she's still a father. well, that is, it is really for our generation, because what yes, yes. and now you're saying it's

going to be okay. no, well, i wouldn’t say, it’s just that there are more such cases, but more than twice or just more often, they simply began to contact me more often, that is, and sometimes e comes to me. turned women m-m. uh, in order to start seeing the child again, that is, or to change the order of communication with the child, that is, i even asked one of them. and why well, not only one for me is always a surprising woman, what guided you when you just voluntarily left the child with the father. and now you are fighting for him such was the answer. i didn't think about it. she just had a new love, that's all. okay, here's another question. uh, when you're doing this kind of childish business. yes , let's say um. if you see that a man just wants to punish a woman by taking away. her child’s children’s disputes are very complicated, you know why, because, unfortunately, most often a

child is simply really a means, that the father, that the mother has the means to punish the other spouse, or the means of manipulation directly manipulation. definitely. these are the same elements of money . payments of some benefits, uh, some compensation. i mean, it's, well, real. unfortunately, this is how it is in most cases gennadievna well, it’s just that there were high-profile cases in minsk, when a wealthy father, punishing his mother, took her son away from her and did not let him see him simply, because he could solve this issue with the help of money. at this moment, i want to ask where the lawyers looked, the court makes a decision, that is, children's disputes, but it's all the same these are statements of claim that are being considered court and there is no where to look lawyers. here, it means that there were such circumstances involved in these disputes, the guardianship and guardianship authorities are necessarily involved, so it’s not just, uh, the lawyer here, but didn’t work properly or did something wrong, so the complex of

everything together was a lawyer that you can you wish or advise unfortunate mothers? i think that here you need to fight for the child to the end and go through all instances, because the court of first instance is not yet final. the decision is the court, and the second instance there are supervisory appeals, the supreme court. now the decision of the supreme court can be challenged. no, we can apply to the supreme court in order to challenge the decision of the court of first instance, if it does not suit you, we have a court of first instance. if the appealed against this decision is not satisfactory, then an appeal is written and the court of second instance is already on, which means the court of second instance, when everything passes, uh, then, there is, and so on. the decision takes effect. let here the second instance, but a person still has the right to appeal against the decision already. it's called enforceable and go with uh, a supervisory complaint. what do you think,

how many years will it take to go through these instances? you know what hmm well it's a year. it seems to me that years passed while she went through the authorities. if you recall the case that i have already mentioned and nothing has been decided yet. well , let's take a break for a while, i remind you, we have a telegram channel. say don't be silent. subscribe ask questions and suggest guests. we are in touch, we must turn off emotions and explore just the letter of the law, as well, because we must professionally fulfill our duty and provide legal assistance, as citizens as an economic entity at a high professional level. on the air say it again, don't be silent. and today, in our studio , vera oreshka vera gennadievna, chairman of the minsk city colleague of lawyers, we finished in the last part on the fact that the processes from

your personal practice can last for years. in this case, i represented a father who wanted to establish absence in relation to a child and uh hmm in the first instance the decision was in our favor, but uh, in the subsequent second instance. the decision was canceled and sent for a new trial the second time it was a decision in our favor again, the court of second instance overturned the decision and sent it for a new trial. eh, the third solution has already stood. i honestly say that i myself joked with my client that our child will soon turn 18 years old. and we're still arguing well, that's what we're talking about. yes, and how it ended, but we won. yes father yes thank you father. e, he established both paternity, and later, as i found out, he subsequently addressed other questions, took the child to himself and how many years and a half years have passed or four about four years.

well, that is, this is such a connecting process for a child. yes. it was the longest moment of completion of this process. how old was the child? so we started to sue when the child was 5 years old, about nine years old 10, the child still did not have it up to ten years they ask me not yes, but how do you understand this one instance plus another minus one plus another - what does it depend on? well , we have it provided for in the civil procedure codes. that is, it checks, and the decision is in full, that is, including whether the process of applying the correct norm of substantive law was violated, they found a loophole somewhere. yes, fix it, it was just that the court of second instance considered that the court of first instance was wrong. there is no more personal factor in this. no you'll know what's here, well judges independents obey only the law, so how would they evaluate the estimated. they evaluate those civil cases that they receive from all sides, that is, both from the point of view of the process and from the point of view of the rule of law

, this is the very competitiveness of the process. yes , when one of the parties must provide as much as possible. yes, the time of proof lies with each of the parties, so the court immediately warns. present evidence of your position and accordingly, the lawyer helps, uh, his client to present these evidence. there is a requirement to make some requests and so on. that is it. well, this is for you. this is a struggle, to be honest, probably, yes, i won’t dissemble, because it’s really when you conduct such cases, and you look from all sides, that how can you present that evidence so that the court hears from you and a ruled in your favor is, well, interesting, are you already or that you are capable of doing the same thing for quite a long time, but there are cases when a lawyer, well, by virtue of some reasons circumstances forced to convey. uh, here's a case for another lawyer. how well can help the client

. here is the second lawyer absolutely qualitatively, she is here there is no such comparison. probably they will be wrong every one of uh, lawyers. i mean, he really does his job. and this is the transmission, well, due to some circumstances of their lives, it is clear that a lawyer is the same person as everyone else, because of an illness, he can leave to be on vacation, and with us. well, let's say how i work with colleagues. eh, i'm leaving. here's a vacation. i ask your colleague, and you pick up this or that case, but immerse yourself in this case. is it a lengthy process or is it like this depends on the case itself, but there are different claims. well, how would we believe directly, but there are, uh, complex categories, uh, civil cases and there, really it requires a long one? you're studying there, well, more so simple not so complex. let 's say it differently, and some require study, including there you will need to go, inventory, which study the inheritance cases of each case. it is different in it and taking into account

this happens, respectively, different solutions, so any lawyer. even after being led by his colleague. this case will be unequivocal and study the case and talk with the client. and if you need any additional information about the need for him, that is, therefore, well, somehow, to say that if a lawyer came to another, he would not have time to immerse himself. no, you can't say that a lawyer. in any case, will dive into the case. but for what reasons do you refuse yourself, shift things to your colleagues, but only if it happens with us the notion, sometimes, like overlays in lawsuits , but for the most part, i, uh, refuse. uh, in rare cases, if i had a vacation planned, i can climb. sorry family and child. it can only get sick. such uh, so we try every lawyer. well, including me in the first place. i speak for myself, and i try, of course, to bring each case to its logical conclusion, we understand that you are protected by attorney-client secrecy, but maybe you

were faced with the fact that you once needed legal services. and if yes, then where did you apply, in general, do lawyers have a practice of consulting each other? and this is the consent of the client, firstly, that is, yes, we can e, without revealing attorney-client privilege, consult on the case, it is clear that we have codes and a decision of a prisoner by the supreme court, there is such a thing as her judicial practice and very often we talk colleagues. who had what cases? what are the solutions for e, one or another and the stated claims. so i can say, um. hmm, lawyers are people too. they also get divorced. yes, and i can tell you that what they are and most lawyers now resort to the help of their legal colleagues, because, well, including divorce or a division of property. uh, the baby argument is yours. this is already a personal challenge. yes, i'm difficult, and

that's why i'm talking about what exactly, that's why lawyers resort to the help of colleagues, because you already evaluate differently. this is your personal. and here you are a professional and impartial, yes, and therefore, as it were , really lawyers, but they give a power of attorney to his colleagues, so as not to go to court. so that a colleague has already terminated the marriage without his financial participation. is it easy for an average belarus to afford the services of a lawyer. uh, there is an opinion that lawyers sometimes ask for crazy fees. yes, but it is spelled out, the size of the fees, the procedure for determining it is determined by agreement between the lawyer and the client. that is, the agreement can be from 5 rubles. million dollars, what we have is available with legal assistance. this is clear, because we have taking into account the new law, we have expanded the category of citizens to whom lawyers provide

legal assistance at their own expense. here , plus everything else, there are categories of different things. uh, very complex, really cases that are multi-volume, that is, which requires studying far from a single day, and therefore, uh, therefore, there is such a concept in the law that this is an agreement depending on the complexity of the amount of time that is necessary to spend a lawyer on studying, including legislation and judicial practice on this category of cases, but still, uh, you need to rely on there is some kind of tariff rate determined there. e, where are we going to dance from, and i want to turn to a lawyer, i must understand. and how much can the recommendations approved by the republican colleague cost me? lawyers have an approximate fee, which is determined depending on the category of the case. depending on whether you need to go on a business trip, you do not need to. this, too, how would it all affect, er, so to speak, the price tag.

it's probably wrong. we are the size of the fee. come on, yes, this is the size of the fees, but i'm not applying. uh, never to lawyers for their help, because i'm embarrassed at all. uh, moral damages are being assessed. it seems to me in some pennies veroginally. well, why do we hear the constant story that she turned coffee on herself at mcdonald's. somewhere in america i received 2 million dollars in moral damages that they did not write on the cup that it was hot. well, we can not boast of such large sizes. why what? what's stopping us? well, you know, i think it would move. translation civil law very often people, and do not apply simply because they think they will spend on the price tag. that's more time than uh. benefits will be received or reimbursed. this is what,

in principle, i talked about earlier, there is still judicial practice, that is, well, there is approximately, but an approximate category of a case, including, uh, a traffic accident, yes, harm caused. eh, human health. we generally do not weigh this category. it seems to me so far. well, well, here is the most elementary, but you were served even badly there. it's also nerves. stress that lead to diseases to purchase, medicines and so on. well, that is, somehow, not at all. in the air of this concept is damage. you will agree. well, you know that this is not really my category of cases, so i will not answer the question so categorically and confidently. well, based on the fact that i am what i had in the project. based on conversations with colleagues on this occasion, people do not want to apply, that is, for this category with such, but requirements, because they believe that you are absolutely correct

said well it won't be that game isn't worth it. yes, the game is not worth the candle, you understand? well, maybe it will develop in the future. let's see, okay, you said there is a category of citizens who have the right to free legal assistance. you can call it at the expense of your colleague, and this is provided for by article 28 of the law on the advocacy of advocacy, this is labor. there are controversies. there is a fairly large category, in addition, the advice of a colleague has the right, and at the request of a citizen. in if it will unconditionally confirmed documents secured and so on free from payment and uh, the lawyer u will work within the framework of each citizen at the expense of a colleague. maybe, in principle, the council makes a decision in the case when a citizen is really in a difficult life situation. oh, let's say the same disabled person. uh, we have a lot, but they turn. uh, already

disabled people and hmm elderly people who don’t walk at all and we have uh, including young lawyers, go uh, you come to your house and provide legal assistance. in including the state of the statement there is some kind of appeal to the court and so on. uh, so here's a colleague's advice. you understand, since this is at the expense of funds in the college, this is at the expense of lawyers and therefore, of course, assistance is provided when it is clear that a person in a given difficult life situation cannot pay legal assistance to a lawyer, there have been cases in your practice when you have had uh, to protect a person who committed some very serious crime, and who you didn’t like. can you tell me i can well, for me it was still in the old code, i defended, but the rapist. and serial or not? it was a one-part, yes, and it was a

minor. it was classic rape. eh, here it was. indeed , he is, well, unpleasant to me, but i did my job. and we got 10 years at that time, but i wrote, then the old code complaint and the minsk city court reduced his sentence by 3 years. and you are ashamed still not ashamed. i did my job professionally. at least i don't like him or unpleasant, but you are a professional. this is your job. and how to communicate with the relatives of the victim or you, there was no need for this communication, we have to communicate when, if, uh, the victims want it, that is, sometimes you even understand it is being conducted. the thief of the same monetary compensation to the victim , and so on, that is, and therefore, everything here

depends on the relatives of the victim, or the victim himself. does he want to communicate? basically, i'm the lawyer for his abuser. if you take it in simple terms, and therefore sometimes people do not want to communicate. and i have a big fan of the series. e on these topics. here, when suddenly opposite, another lawyers are put to decide questions. there is such a practice there again. i will cite the same civil disputes, too, dissolution of marriage, determination of the place of residence of children, or, uh, participation in the life of children of a separately living parent. that is, when one of the other parties has a lawyer, it is easier to agree, because, again, the sides are emotions. that is, like a husband and wife, that is, mother, father, these are emotions. and when they sit opposite each other two professionals and talk and discuss. and among themselves. that is, taking into account lived. conventionally , first of all, we fulfill the wishes of the client, that is, but, as it were, because we

are obliged to support we are obliged to do this here too, but here it is easier for a person then to tell what is from the point of view of the law. maybe so and so and in exactly the same way, another lawyer, the second side says that according to the point of view of the law and judicial practice. it can be so and so and when e yes sides you inform that, well it can't be like you want because it's against the law. here, then we so-called conclude settlement agreements. i really like, that is, to end the case with a settlement agreement and then both parties are satisfied when you conclude a settlement agreement from this to conclude that your recommendations are that both parties hire lawyers for such issues of such issues. i think people, or something, yes, and emotions are so sometimes, but they capture people, they cannot let go of this situation, or forgive each other, that well, it goes off scale, i would say so, how often they have become. like this

specifically to resolve issues. since when lawyers are occupied or this is also not yet more often now, and you know that now i really like that more often, uh, spouses conclude a marriage contract between themselves, which many questions are removed. here it is an order of magnitude more often the conclusion of contracts is still such an attitude towards them, as if, well, he doesn’t love you. well, as you are a doctor, some have such an attitude that how is it that you offer me to conclude a marriage contract. so you are already thinking that we will divorce you. it 's wrong to think so, because marriage the contract can remove a lot of questions on property for children on alimony on participation in the upbringing, you understand the children, and it will be. well, not just civilized. this is the more correct way. why get into a lawsuit that can take years, as we've discussed before, if you can get it off. what questions did you initially say that lawyers should, well, should not, and they are

recommended to communicate more with the media. well, there are processes open closed and here on open processes it is not uncommon to see representatives of the media in the courtroom. how do you feel about their presence? it 's hard for me. uh, whether i want to answer it or not, but hmm, i'll tell you. this was a case not so long ago, the case was covered by the press and my a under protective testified, that is. well, here, i was definitely at the court session and i listened to what he was saying, and when, after 3 hours , i came out and read something completely different. you understand, that's why i have such an ambiguous attitude towards the fact that the press is present in the hall. and representatives diplomatic missions, when representatives of an extraneous presence also break in, it seems to me, yes, yes, it is undesirable not so much for a lawyer. as for the same accused

who is worried, you know, he testifies, he needs to answer questions. and how would the prosecutor here and here. uh, hmm, many even ask their relatives not to come to court. but the fact that the journalist wrote on the decision of the court can not affect in any way. no, of course, definitely not. that is, you read, but you never know, well, i, but for people unpleasant, but the participants in the process. yes, they didn't say that. that's how you said that the marriage contract would be nice to become the norm with us. so recently one of my colleagues. hmm, my age surprised me that she had already made a will. how often do you come across this that here is the middle age. people already think competently legally. well, you know that a will , even one she wrote in middle age, she can always change it, but each subsequent will will be a new one. and in general, we need this or is it some kind of yes, european and american music. i did

n’t have such cases much, because notaries draw up a will, they already come to us when, figuratively speaking, when they dispute a will and so on. i just get in touch with the fact that the cavit and calm atmosphere people began to think about at the moment of the sea, maybe, but i repeat once again, and how would a will be drawn up at the moment, a notary, you understand, so the lawyer is only the consequences of the will, then later. if it will be he sees the dispute, well, clearly, that is, she surprised not only me, but also you have something you think about the jury trial is a difficult question, to be honest, but at the moment we don’t have it. and uh , you know, i didn't sit on a jury, probably the same as you and me. you only watch jurors here on tv. yes , so again hmm why is it a difficult question, because the jury is also a person and what they will be guided by, when deciding , apart from the evidence that is available in the case

, it is also difficult to say, so i don’t have unequivocal opinion. jurors, again . yes, right there and the emotionality of each person also affects the chess game chess game. now let's take a moment. let's take a break. after a short pause, we will return to this studio, while subscribe to our telegram channel. say, do not be silent, but look for all our releases on the youtube channel, belarus is one. this is a project about people who have made their lives harmonious and enjoyable. it so happened that we are next to such a forest and next to such a river. it all worked out wonderfully, you never go, that's such a route, then this is a special pleasure, it turns out open people who are able to

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take part in various actions, let's call them that, including in legal education . literally the other day, in the capital tenth school, uh, such an event was held for the parents of students. e, discussed the issues of criminal liability of minors for illegal trafficking in narcotic psychotropic substances. lawyers are willing to do so. with such deeds, the lawyers of the minsk city colleague conduct a lot of such lectures and conversations. including with the main department of justice, we constantly hold actions at various kinds of enterprises and factories. uh, in front of labor collectives. and such, uh, lectures are still very important for minors, because , unfortunately. indeed, in recent times , very often, uh, minors are involved in the use of narcotic drugs. and it is important to pay, including the attention of parents to the behavior of your child for some moments

that you need to watch and see that something is going wrong, because hmm is definitely a punishment for this. eh, for such crimes. it's big and it's a pity just for the children, which hmm, maybe the parents overlooked somewhere, but you are again streamlined so intelligently. like a lawyer. speak it is necessary to say popularly that there was a girl, an excellent student ended with a gold medal and once asked she made a bookmark and sat down for 20 years. this is what is very popular. today is history. i hear her. first once. i sold a car to a man who mourned like this for his daughter, who got an honors student from a school for asking me to make a bookmark once. for 20 years you know that uh hmm i'm not streamlined, i say absolutely, i would say differently. why such lectures are also important and such examples

come up, i have to cite how a girl a student for 20 years of the village. unfortunately , they are minors, they believe that they, well, will not get caught, especially when they inspire him that fools come across. you are smart, yes, yes, so, it is the way it is and they say that you are not afraid, nothing will happen here, that is, everything is encrypted with us. everything is anonymous with us, yes, that is, at this moment a schoolboy or a graduate of the school should think why such professionals turned to him, but if they are professionals, let them pawn themselves, i think, and you can do anything else to deliver pizza, for example, we just had stas piekha. yes, the artist who works on this topic spoke very well. now the treatment of that age is well done. already first-graders entered this topic. they have become not only spreading, but it is terrible at the age of 7 years of entry. yeah well, uh, you've

been to these lectures in schools. i was not only at the lectures. i also, uh, so to speak, carry out personal reception of citizens' parents. how do they realize the scale of the tragedy or duty faster gennadievna you know that uh, well, again it depends, uh, different people in different ways, someone really hurries home, but the topic itself is relevant for parents and when you bring it, here it is concrete examples of a 20-year-old girl is an excellent student and you tell specific examples from practice, then of course your parents. this is interesting, i would not say that this is a duty for parents. that is, they understand. yes and what are you more interested in preparing for the trial in quiet classrooms or public speaking? preparing for the process in the silence of the office, you understand that tomorrow you have a difficult court session on the other hand , some kind of cool lawyer, you need to know everything very much. that is. well, you read practice, you look at examples, you study legislation, that is, this is a rather lengthy process. well

, fascinating. yes, you find some examples of judicial practice that you apply to your case, then this is, well, really fascinating. you, uh, you won the case, of course, you are congratulated, they give you flowers. perhaps even those who hoped for a successful outcome for 3 1/2 years, but sometimes they lose. this is life and uh, the reaction of your clients is always adequate or there have been cases when you had to run away from the courtroom. well, i won’t run away to lie, i didn’t have to, but there really are losses, but technically you know how to explain, and usually, when you see that, how the case goes one court building, the second court building, you understand, somewhere that you do not have enough evidence. i usually always try to convey to the client that we can try, but we have a chance to lose, that is, there are never

such cases when you are 100% sure that you will win. this will definitely guarantee such a success. well, personally. i definitely can't do it. you already mentioned that the lawyer is cool there, so we have some kind of rating, maybe be not quite right to use the word cool, when it is when you understand that on the other hand, but a really strong professional who is engaged. respectively. you understand that there is a rating. i want to tell you e any e lawyer like any person. e in her profession wants to be more clear that she doesn't want to lose things. now we have young lawyers. i want to tell you more, they can give a forum already like that. uh, in a lawyer, yes, yes, and what do you associate this with, technologies are developing, they are looking for examples, they are being trained, then yes, well done what was the most unusual case in your practice? it's just that every case is different. you have now puzzled me a

little with this question, because in reality everyone makes individually, it seems, it seems the same claims. everything is just the same, only the last name is not ivanov but petrov, yes, but at the same time with everything, but there are cases when the circumstances seem to be the same, but the decision is different. you wanted to become, as we know, a doctor and an ophthalmologist. it was so it was left by the lawyer. uh, do not regret, honestly, i say i am very glad that this was the revolution of my life. it's probably fate after all. well, it happened. well, does your profession affect your daily life, probably rather, yes, did the deformation happen? no more before each process. i'm still worried, we call against the formation, when you can't read, there are completely illiterate posts on facebook. how are you? well , we call the philologist blood from the eyes, do you have such cases? well, when you see obvious

violations, yes, her legal in her daily practice, well, you have to in the store, ask for a book to comment on the proposal when you see it. you know that in so many years of law practice, i probably wrote it down in a book once or twice. they wrote comments to offer , but wrote, but when everything was already completely bad. still, it definitely has to. eh, well, somehow, in accordance with the activities of a lawyer, to restrain oneself in some way. there in the same statements. that is, you can't go there before with the same roommate. and somehow there, if suddenly some kind of quarrel, yes, no, we have the rules of professional ethics of a lawyer. we are a 24/7 lawyer understand lawyer will not post all sorts of, so to speak, strange pictures on his facebook because the lawyer misunderstands this. you actually have to be a lawyer already all the time. you have to be a lawyer 24 hours a day, that's for sure. and we are vera gennadievna on ourselves. we felt it today in full

, trying to pull you out, er, into vivid emotions, but we didn’t quite succeed, nevertheless. thank you very much. very much. you found out first. e that young lawyers - it's not really a sentence. it's generally it may even be good compared with the aksakals, they can provide. cheese help, we wish you. good luck with your workplace and , uh, victories in good deeds, tatyana shcherbina victoria popova we say goodbye to you today. goodbye. goodbye. and now vera is speaking, dear viewers. i would like to congratulate you on the coming new year and wish you health and well-being. and so that your hut does not know, neither a doctor nor a lawyer. there is such a belarusian proverb and at the same time, i want to wish you, if you need, legal professional assistance, contact the minsk city colleagues and lawyers.

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