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minsk to vilnius airport overturned on the way in the car were eight people the accident happened at about half past five in the morning forty-year-old minibus driver lost control and drove into a ditch. campaign traffic, where the car overturned after the incident for examination. physicians in healthcare facilities. three passengers were delivered, their lives and health are not in danger. by this time, all the information is told about the events in the country and the world , my colleagues will continue at 3:00 in the afternoon, tender, i say goodbye there, see you at the first button.
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the program sas is authorized to declare i am the host nadezhda sas greetings, i remind you. this is a program for those who want to better understand the current world and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. we will tell you right now between the chinese and indian military on december 9th there was a shootout in the region of northeast india , according to indian media, the clash led to the injury of several soldiers from both sides, it is specified that after the incident the military left the area immediately, the previous time the incident between chinese and
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indian troops occurred in june 2020 in the golvan vladakh valley, then 20 soldiers from the indian side were killed, several more were wounded by the prc and india are engaged in a long-standing dispute over the ownership of a piece of mountainous territory in northern kashmir, and also in the northeastern state of oru, sales began due to uncertainty over the border, the troops of the two countries often clash while patrolling the territory. major eu corruption scandal in accepting bribes from qatar in progress consideration of the application for hosting the world cup was accused by several euro deputies from the socialist faction, including the vice-president of the european parliament. eva kylie , a representative of greece, was arrested by the belgian police against qatar where the football championship ended today in europe, a powerful information campaign has been going on for a long time emirate, where it is too hot for a normal game of football and there are no strong sports traditions suspected of buying the championship. for the sake of improvement. the image of the country, while during the search
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at the home of the vice president of the european parliament. according to rumors, they found whole bags of cash. germany claims to have uncovered a conspiracy to violently overthrow the government in the country and establish a monarchy as part of an investigation reminiscent of the plot of a hollywood action movie , more than 50 people were arrested, who allegedly planned to storm the bundestag, assassinate the chancellor, schultz and a number of ministers. among the suspects is an ex-deputy from the alternative for germany party, a veteran of the secret services and the heir to an old princely family. row. observers believe that conspiracies are just an excuse crack down on right-wing conservative opposition opposed to lgbt imposition and dialogue and confrontation with russia over the latter as researched expect already blamed failed rebels. well, the topic of today's program is turkish somersault , we are talking about erdogan's policy and the modern
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interpretation of multi-vector policy, may 29, 1453. fell in constantinople, the turks crushed byzantium, but not the imperial idea; the conqueror of the city on the banks of the bosphorus, sultan mehmet ii , immediately after the victory. took the title of kaiser and room. what does the caesar of rome mean and by this title the ottoman emperors, who considered themselves the heirs of the roman empire, greatly valued. imperial, the idea is again hovering over the golden horn bay, modern turkey is increasingly claiming the status of a great power. istanbul again wants to be a constant city, a city of kings or caesars, i smoke these words alone, will this be discussed in today's program. i am glad to welcome alexey belyaev, political scientist , candidate of historical sciences, to our studio. good evening. hello and dmitry egor director of the institute of strategic research and forecasts ruden. hello
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, we start our discussion by tradition with millet blitz. today it sounds like this: the ottoman empire is being revived alex please. well, in principle, we observe that the current president of turkey does not hide his neo-ottoman aspirations and indeed his policy. uh, building a strong turkey today in the conditions when the world's hegemons. eh, they are fighting among themselves, but redistributing power at the highest level, and turkey is using this moment to strengthen itself precisely as a serious regional power. we see that under erdogan, the military presence in a number of states has significantly expanded. we see that erdogan is very successfully using modern hydrocarbon disputes to his advantage. and the fact that there were, uh, the largest gas pipelines through turkey, the turkish
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stream, the blue stream, turned turkey into a very serious player in this regard. we see that erdogan certainly managed to suppress the internal opposition after 2016, and therefore today his political power is quite strong. dmitry in your opinion. is the the great idea of ​​the ottoman empire? well, she has already objected, but today's turkey. and as many experts and turkologists directly and specialists in the middle east say, they sympathize with two syndromes. one of them. uh, just the imperial syndrome, and the syndrome in this sense has a negative connotation. yes, but just a description, what is called an anamnesis of some? yes, and indeed such neosporinskaya ideology. it is in turkey now, uh, in fact, it is state-owned, and turkey is actively striving. e in those areas in which it was once strong the ottoman empire, ah, more and more actively
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present uh in the economy in security policy. and what is very important for turkey in the semantic ideological sphere, turkey is making a huge amount of effort in this regard. and very often, uh, these efforts of turkey even go beyond. what is the name of the historical map of the ottoman empire, the second important syndrome is the syndrome of infringement, and turkey feels that it is underestimated in world affairs, and it speaks quite frankly that, for example, the modern system. the un should be changed that, as turkish politicians say, the world is more than five. yes, at one time the americans were very happy about this, thinking that the conversation was about the exclusion of russia, for example, the security councils. he well, then the turkish, comrades explained that the americans. it is too. well , by the way, mind many experts. observers note that today turkey has become the main
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beneficiary, the current most acute in many decades, and the crisis and systems of international relations and turkey is needed by everyone, both the west and russia and ukraine and china and the arab neighbors. and at the same time, in relations with each of the players, turkey behaves extremely wisely. and you know, she knows how to get what she needs from everyone, how this policy can be described, this is a multi-vector policy, which we often like to say and it is believed that this is the key to successful and reasonable development of the state. and turkey, the leadership of turkey is very well aware that for that same a-a neosporin project, it lacks at least one resource. ah, to obtain these resources, turkey uses technology hub so-called yes, when m-m resources flow to turkey a, when a foreign resources
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can very often be used to achieve their own goals. this is a normal policy from the point of view of the place in modern international relations that turkey occupies, you correctly noted, turkey is a very convenient partner for both the west and the east and for russia, and of course the turkish, and the leaders - this is good, they realize and use it with all their might this. well, you know, here they still say multi-vector. it must be understood that turkey has a number of obligations, firstly, turkey is certainly a bright member of nato, one of the strongest armies and, accordingly, turkey’s strategy in military terms should be considered through nato’s strategy, therefore, for the same russian federation for belarus, which is allied with the russian federation from a military point of view. turkey should be seen as an adversary. we must forget about this and do not think that here we are our multi-vector approach, we can change something. secondly, when we talk about a multi-vector approach, nevertheless, turkey, despite a long wait under the doors of the european union and
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it seems that they have already forgotten that they should be admitted to the european union, but turkey is still oriented again, pro-western in its economic policy. first of all. this can be seen from the structure of its economics of trade relations, so it is multi-vector. it exists only in the sense that turkey , just under these conditions, is trying to apply its interests to relations with countries that can not actually be considered allies for it. by the way, about the desire, or not the desire, to be part of the european union at the moment let's talk in in more detail with a hungarian expert on security policy, an ex-diplomat, a body and a demo of diotil. on our tv show, and i'm glad to be here for the last few years. we've basically howled that turkey still has
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candidate status in the european union, the process has been kind of blocked. and apparently erdogan. it is no longer interesting to imagine that erdogan loses the elections next year. can we imagine that the eec will finally accept turkey as one of the countries, or the problem is not enemies, what there is definitely an economic ongoing at the moment, but if erdogan loses the election, if his party loses the election, then i think there is a chance that the negotiations with turkey will be reopened, but it will take a very long time in the present format, the eu is not ready to accept new family members, if this still
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happens, then, probably, at the beginning the balkan countries will go and then to ukraine and moldova, which also applied for membership, that is, there is a very long one. uh, a waiting list of candidates, and unfortunately, many countries the european union is not very patient. let's just look at what happened this week romania bulgaria failed to enter gena which allows free movement within european countries against further expansion. and even people like romania could not get what they generally deserve, namely membership in the schengen area tynki crazy sochi russia and turkey have a lot in common both countries historically have elites who took an example from europe but never belonged to europe to fully
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integrate with the west, but they were repelled, don't you think that now is such a turning point when turkey, just like russia , can finally leave its ethereal aspirations for europe and look east into the eyes of its eurasian destiny, and russia and turkey are imperial countries. in the sense that they have a fairly long history of existence as an empire. they have never tried to enter europe to do this, so it cannot be compared with turkey in terms of mentality. and yasmonism, turkey itself is a force and just like russia and will be given the format in the eu because with
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organized differently, this is the usual union of smaller countries, of course, there is germany, there is france, but germany left its historical ambitions and integrated with the european space in france, everything is a little different, but turkey has a very clear sense of its own mission. and i'm not sure that it will fit well in europe and, of course , in russia there is also a sense of its mission. and now we have a crisis with russia. thank you mr. genk for your participation in our telegram. thanks dmitry well, in fact, it sounded that, of course, for european bureaucrats, turkey's candidacy yes to join the european union is not attractive to them now due to mr. erdogan's certain rather uncomfortable position. that is, if mr. erdokan does not suddenly win the upcoming elections, then
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the dialogue will probably continue. although looking at the collapse of the former, successful enough structure called the european union, looking at the crises that it is facing today and this is how it is. here's a snowball that's only now gaining momentum, if at all the desire of today's turkey to be part of this union, let's start sociology. yes, for a long time, and turkish citizens were divided into about three parts of a third for entry. a third are against entry, the third was not brought. uh, over the past few years, there has been a steady trend that more than 50% of turkish citizens are not very eager to join the european union, and i suspect that if we now conduct a deep sociology, at the moment there will be even fewer of these citizens, and turkey has stood at doors of the european union and hmm tried to somehow negotiate with european bureaucracy, and the european bureaucracy has always communicated with turkey hmm, and with a little condescension,
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firstly, and secondly, it has set a long list of conditions. and most importantly, what did she do? she never showed the whole list, and the turkish leaders already had a feeling that what would be the next requirements, what should we do? yes, where do you go with the whole country there, i don’t know to conduct lgbt propaganda at the official level, which the turks have been saying for a very long time, but you give us these conditions in full. maybe we can somehow correspond, and now the situation has changed for turkey the european union is no longer such an attractive object. accession from the point of view of the economy customs union turkey the european union operates turkey will continue to receive its economic bonuses, moreover, in the current conditions, the number of these bonuses will increase, but turkey's participation in the political structure. yes, the european union now seems superfluous to the turks. they see that the autonomy of the european member states of the european union invariably falls. they are more and more
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falling under direct dictate. it is clear who overseas their immediate patrons in one form or another. yes, that's why turkey hmm, probably, they are not ready to join the european union now, but if they think about the possibility of the european union joining turkey, it would be extremely attractive for the turkish side. but let 's display our excellent map, i will ask colleagues, and display a map of the turkish military presence abroad on plasma. this is the picture we see at the moment and in fact we can imagine the breadth. neo-ottoman ambitions from libya to central asia and does turkey really have enough strength to play simultaneously on so many boards ? by the way, the military presence of
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turkey is also unequal, this must be understood, that is, here we have afghanistan written in the afghan presence. today, one can actually forget, because it was presence along with american troops. e, when it comes to where, for example, it is more dangerous, we see that, firstly, of course, the border itself, syria iraq , these are places where the concentration of turkish troops is greatest, and there we are actually talking about the occupation of entire parts of independent states. we see that the serious presence of turkey in libya e, for the turkish side is very important, since this is one of the attempts to protect, including its own energy interests, there oil production is the support of this national e, government governments of national accord, yes, and a counterweight to caliph haftar, here turkey at the same time, as it were, kills two birds with one stone. that is, it solves its problems and opposes russia, it does not allow
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russia to strengthen, which supported caliph haftar. here, uh, well, on the other hand, of course, this is presence. uh, quite small, that is, to say that, uh, turkey can seriously influence the military situation far beyond its borders, it will probably be , uh, somewhat so premature, but certainly near its borders. uh turkish army continues to play a significant role. and uh, the power of turkey here will manifest itself precisely as a direct, not soft, namely, hard, hard power plus. we see a very serious problem for the same post-soviet space. this is precisely the military presence of turkey's military assistance, firstly to azerbaijan in the nagorno-karabakh conflict, and secondly , direct, in fact military, direct military support to ukraine in this case as well. unfortunately for russia, yes, turkey again demonstrates itself not as an ally. namely, as an adversary militarily. that's why
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there is a review based on your analytics. you can even compare erdogan's policy, rather with the behavior of bender, who plays 12 spanish games. and where somewhere yes won. yes, at the moment other participants in the growth are taking advantage of this situation, because in past programs we spoke about the future, yes of the world order, but of multipolarity. and here is one of the participants of the authors of the international politi. will he be able to sit at the table of the great powers, and in fact, the question arose of turkey as a middle state has the right to this will it depend? well, firstly, turkey has already decided for itself a long time ago. it does not consider itself a regional power; it considers itself to be a great power, but the corresponding ambitions. and resources, as i said earlier , are not quite enough for this yet, but turkey
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is learning to use resources. and their partners. yes, when we talk about, for example, about, but various integration projects that turkey is promoting, well, let's say in the caucasus and central asia a. she latently has in her head the possibilities of using resources, including including in the sphere of security of these states , in order to achieve some of our specific goals, we see this on the example of azerbaijan, but it is quite transparent to ourselves. i 'll say this carefully, yes, but what about the immediate? the presence of the turkish military is all over this wide map. well, really, for the time being, it looks more like such an attempt to stake out important points, yes, in just a few minutes, fyodor lukyanov, editor-in-chief of the russia in global affairs magazine, will join our airwaves. we continue the discussion in sasu program is authorized to declare. i am glad
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to welcome fedor aleksandrovich lukyanov , director of research at the valdai international discussion club, and editor-in-chief of the magazine russia in global affairs, fedor aleksandrovich , are already present in our studio. , in your opinion, is it true that he is sophisticated in diplomacy, or that others just made so many mistakes that, if we compare turkish leaders with them against their background look so successful. i think that at a historical distance we are idealizing telegrams and bismarck, and they seem to us to be some kind of hyperboreans, such supermen and super-diplomats. uh, it must have looked a lot different up close, much less avant-garde in that sense too. well, maybe
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you can compare. uh, later, there centuries or decades, at least, probably, turkey's policy during this period will be looked at as, for example, extremely sophisticated. in general, quite successful diplomacy, but does it look better against the background of others, but here it’s hard to say everyone is good now so , to be honest, to characterize, but erdogan is a man with an amazing flair, he has a flair for power and a flair for opportunities, and plus he is brave , he can, so to speak, daring, and he is not afraid to bluff where necessary, where to use some kind of strength. here you are eh? we used the analogy of bender's squad there, who plays many games, but let me remind you that the session ended with a simultaneous game with a historical throw of pieces in the face of a one-eyed chess player. here erdogan erdogan
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has not yet done this. moreover, i think and will not, because, unlike ostap bender, he understands that the situation can turn around. otherwise, if one of the chess players. here you will catch up all the same in this sense, he, in my opinion, somewhere m-m he generally knows the line, but he is simply sure that this is a game there is nothing. thank you, everything alexandrovich is literally another question regarding the fact that russia and turkey have a historical complex in common. now , rather unpromising relations with europe, both wanted to be in their time. the periphery refused to become part of it, and in the end eventually moved into the category of enemies. is fear possible against this background? a strategic alliance between moscow and ankara, although well , perhaps, not as formal as it is. at the moment, there is no strategic alliance between russia and china. i think there cannot
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be, here it can be discussed separately. how strategic is the alliance between russia and china that is, of course, it is an alliance, and it is strategic, but there are nuances. as they say, but as for turkey, this is a completely different phenomenon. uh, it seems to me that here at the heart of the relationship, as opposed to russia and china, where trust exists, it can be tested, but it still exists at a basic level. here, between russia and turkey, between e, even, probably, between putin and erdogan, and trust is not very noticeable, but there is, uh, a good understanding of a partner, an understanding that each other needs is very simply critically important. uh, turkey for russia for turkey now. and this is a more fundamental basis for successful interaction than there, i don’t know
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value unities. or even a coincidence interests, that is the fact that turkey and russia to each other. maybe, roughly speaking, very bad shit. sorry for the language. and not this, but in fact it holds together more than any commonality. uh, interests and goals. i strongly doubt whether this type of relationship is tegical, but now in general it’s not enough in the strategic world thank you very much for the excellent analytics fedor alexandrovich lukyanov was in touch with us. we continue our program. indeed, we talk a lot about the wise cunning position of the master erdokan. and now, since recently, in our program, the heading portraits periodically appears. so right now i would like to tell our viewers in more detail. who is the turkish leader mr. erdon, please, recep erdogan began his political career while still a student in
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1975. he organized a youth movement about the islamic national salvation party. however, the post-war coup in 1980 lost his job due to his poly activities and was forced to join the army. after returning from service, erdogan again aimed on politics from 1983 to 1994, his political activities were entirely associated with the welfare party, which actively participated in the ruling islamic coalition, then erdogan was able to establish contact with the local residents of istanbul, who in 1994 was elected mayor of the city from 2003 to 2015 erdogan was the prime minister of turkey in whose hands the main power in the country was concentrated, his main achievements were the monetary reform, the successful fight against corruption, the construction of new power plants of social institutions, the strengthening of democracy in country, and in 2013, erdogan lifted the restriction on the wearing of
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women's headscarves, traditional in islam, hijabs in public places. at the same time, the eu began to focus on the fact that the policy of the new prime minister led to the infringement of freedom of speech in turkey in 2014, erdogan announced his intention to run for the presidency of the country in the first popular elections in turkey, he confidently won them and won almost 52% of the votes and became the first national president of the country. let's start a new period of social reconciliation today and leave the old discussions in old turkey however, in 2016 the country. expected another shock. a group of military men attempted another coup in istanbul and some other places. real battles unfolded, according to some reports, the rebels acted with the consent of the united states but in the first hours. they failed to kill erdogan. as they say about the danger, he was warned from moscow, and the majority of ordinary citizens opposed the conspirators. in
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a few days, the rebellion was generally suppressed, and erdogan only strengthened his power by depriving the army of tools to influence our politics. armed forces. after the new laws that we are preparing now, they will only become stronger , the commanders will be subordinate to the minister of defense, it is the minister, and not the ministry, thanks to the actions of erdogan, the export of turkish products reached its maximum in 2021 and amounted to 221 billion dollars in monetary terms. gdp growth is no less impressive and reached double digits. because of what, erdogan rightfully calls his homeland a rising star of the 21st century, despite this, erdogan's rating began to fall and is not being replaced for the better economic situation. lira local currency exchange rate. rushed down, which became a threat to politicians. as the leader of the country, erdogan plays the role of a key mediator
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in what remains of the negotiations between russia and ukraine in any case, it is istanbul that has now become a geopolitical offshore meeting point. how, during the cold war , they were held in geneva in the same or in vienna, and alexei what do you think, how much can there be an alternative to the minsk agreements, which are essentially the lack of the ability to implement they led to the fact that we are now seeing on the territory of ukraine, can there be in the future, we are signing the istanbul agreements, because we see mr. erdogan's keen desire to become peacekeepers in this conflict situation, well, about erdogan a peacemaker. you must have been too hasty. uh, as it has been said many times here, turkey acts on the basis of its own interests. here's the thing about conflict. e ukraine and russia, we certainly see the interest of turkey, e, turkey has turned here geopolitically. yes, purely from a
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geographical point of view. she turned to a country that allows or does not allow ships to enter the black sea through the bosphorus strait, which in this case controls cargo flows, including that notorious grain of food, but, the export of which from ukraine has been talked about for so long and a lot and europe, therefore, we have seen, that the negotiations that took place in istanbul, they actually, like, uh, according to statements made immediately after these negotiations, were quite successful, but then they were completely disavowed, their results and nothing happened as a result, that is, it is considered in in this case, again, turkey, which is a person to some extent interested, since its position on the crimea is quite well known. they do not recognize the annexation of crimea to russia, here is their position on support, including by supplying drone weapons to ukraine by supporting this crimean tatar mensalis, which operates on the territory of ukraine, this
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all certainly makes turkey not a neutral territory, but a participant in the events, unlike the minsk agreements where then minsk really occupied. everything is absolute neutral and our president alexander lukashenko sincerely. here, unlike mrs. merkel, who here the revelation began the other day. yes, our president very sincerely wanted real reconciliation, he did everything to the maximum in order to close this issue to resolve the ukrainian conflict, which is specifically recep taip erdogan from turkey. we do not observe such sincerity, by the way, alexey, with your permission. let 's remind our viewers of how the belarusian-turkish relationship of attention to the screen developed. bilateral diplomatic relations between belarus and turkey were established in 1992 in march 2022 minsk ankara celebrated the thirtieth anniversary of the type of relations a new
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impetus to cooperation was given by the visit of the president of turkey to belarus in 2016 the negotiations between alexander lukashenko and recep tayyip erdogan in minsk lasted several hours the leaders of the two countries discussed in detail in the most various topics, ranging from interstate cooperation to global and regional problems of turkey is a priority partner for us, we are very highly we value our friendship and aim for productive interaction in all areas and let's move our relationship forward as far as we can. and we can do a lot to our advantage in that the economies of belarus and turkey do not compete, but complement each other, turkey is ready to further stimulate the entry of turkish businessmen to the belarusian market to expand investment contacts since then, trade between belarus and turkey has developed rapidly turnover for 2021 exports exceeded $1 billion
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; on mutual cancellation of weight belarusians can continuously stay in turkey for up to 30 days from the moment of entry countries in october of this year, the presidents of belarus and turkey met at the summit meeting on interaction and confidence-building measures. in asia, there are many topics for discussion during the negotiations. recep tayyip erdogan invited alexander lukashenko to turkey to continue the conversation. yes, dmitry, please tell me, here's your opinion. what kind of game can minsk play in the difficult, but extremely necessary at the moment, relations between ankara and moscow, and
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what role of turkey in general do you see for the foreign policy of belarus aleksey naturally, this question is addressed to you, and relations between russia and turkey in this sense are an excellent example of how much polarity looks like in reality, which has been talked about so much in recent years, primarily russian, and he is no longer only a specialist, but such multipolarity does not necessarily mean that you and your partner agree on everything and you are strategic allies with him. well, and so on and so on. yes, you may have zones in which you, as we from turkey, agreed not to negotiate. ah, but these zones do not prevent us from developing other areas of cooperation. well, for example, everything in the economic economy of russia in turkey is quite transparent and obvious. there is competition there, and countries periodically squeeze the switch to each other. yes, well, this is a normal part of the relationship between business entities. i would put it this way, it works at all levels, including interstate ones, and in the field of security. we had a big
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lacona, but after the well-known events in syria, when a russian plane was shot down, both sides realized that in the sphere of security it is necessary to establish a dialogue more actively. now he has appeared. now, for a reason, russian weapons appear there in turkey, which nato partners really dislike. here, however, the dialogue continues in the field of human companies. yes. tell me, say it yourself, the head of nato does not like the russian partner. well, at the same time, turkey continues those relationships that are beneficial to it. turkey is well aware that and where are the levers of influence of a full-fledged, including nato, on turkey? well, here's an attempt coup d'etat, about which they just talked about the plot? well, in the end, she didn’t play, let’s not talk about how much this coup really was, that there are different versions, but nonetheless. she didn't play. yes, and the americans tried to put pressure on their turkish partners. uh, the suspension of the contract for military aviation contracts,
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there and so on, they got it. well, she didn't quite answer that. yes, then we will close your military, which will not be europeans, but denied supplies to turkey. well, for example rain metal products for military purposes, and the military industry of turkey, well, what did the europeans get, the loss of the contract, turkey went to asia for about the same yes, and returning to the issue of belarus, belarus is also a sovereign normal predictable player in the field of international relations. ah, of course, much closer to russia for natural reasons, ah, and in this case, this hmm union is an allied truly relationship between moscow and minsk, a union state between moscow and minsk allows us in very many moments exerts, well, not pressure. this is the wrong word for turkey. yes, but to speak from a common position. making it clear to ankara and where are the borders to which ankara can reach, i emphasize
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turkey - the turks themselves do not like to say so, but that's for sure, and the system of power is about leadership and it is constantly probing. eh partner. yes. let's put it this way , and turkey will take exactly that much. how much the partner will give them in this sense, so russia and belarus every time they show turkey, it’s profitable there, but it’s not profitable here, go back. you know, there's another question there is such a thing that in relation to really belarus and turkey, here again from the point of view of geopolitical e. they are simpler and cleaner than relations between russia and turkey, that is, a direct intersection, for example, of military and geopolitical interests, if we leave turkey’s membership in nato out of the equation yes, but there were no direct border disputes between belarus and turkey. and god forbid, and there will not again be a fairly good personal relationship between our president and the turkish. uh, they exist and uh, as if everyone
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uh, they see it, yes, belarus is the only country the european invited to the islamic conference, which through this structure has the opportunity too. e. well, if not a direct influence, then it promotes its interests in belarus again. with turkey indeed. now, if we compare russia with economic relations now, of course, as a country more powerful and larger in terms of economy, and turkey, they have a different trade turnover. but belarus, if we look at what was said here, and e, you know that we do not have all the allies in the eurasian economic union and, especially in the cis , more than a billion goods turnover, so from kazakhstan we are from russia more than all other allies. deep below. that is why turkey is indeed, as it was said in the story, our president was voiced as a priority partner. in this case, we again have an interest, e.g.
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, in trading according to the structure. uh, turkey delivers more to belarus than we do there. to some extent, we depend on it a little. that's but with all this, uh, relationship. these are the partnerships we have business ones, and of course. uh, russian diplomacy can use belarusian diplomacy to send some messages to additional channels. quite right. yes about there possible relationship. that is, we are in this case, although, again, our president does not like this word to be an intermediary, right? but just the belarusian mediation mission. it could well be implemented. in this case, i really like the phrase connecting the bridge. here it is. rather, it is more appropriate. i can't not to ask about one of the main e, for our region questions in international politics for several centuries, the question of the black sea straits. that week, the european union led the ceiling of prices for russian oil, and the bosphorus
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immediately formed again a cork and stankers. how important is the control over the straits for the turkish great power. please tell me, it's definitely important. e control over the straits. this is one of the political pillars of the international sense on which e rests. eh, european powerful. let's say this in this case. european power, turkey, but i draw your attention to the fact that our turkish partners, a and the alternative version are also considering, like the istanbul canal. yes, like, like more additional branches, right? can it be used from outside? please note that turkey, for example, closed the passage for warships, including the nato black sea. now i am profitable for russia, it is also beneficial. imagine how it turns out. i want to pay attention to how they closed, that is, they motivated. they said we don't want to contribute expansion of conflicts. that is, in this
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case they declared a certain neutral peacekeeping position. let them figure it out themselves. yes. and, of course, we ca n't discuss the problem areas that we are now facing. turkey i ask my colleagues to draw a graph of inflation in turkey in recent years. here we see such a cut over the past 5 years, then a rather critical situation. but we are talking about inflation in relation to any corner of the globe. yes at the moment and that's looking at the economic situation in the turkish republic a number. the suspects still call the country an ear of clay with feet of clay, because, unlike the united states, russia, china or even iran, turkey simply does not have the money for imperial ambitions. is that really how it is? well , why did this inflation come about, right? this is a situation, in fact, a post-covid one of the serious parts of the turkish economy, it has always been a tourism issue and stingy restrictions.
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very strong. this industry has been crippled, uh, plus today's conflict. in fact, turkey also has an interest in terminating it, because mutual trade weakened in this case due to the russian ukrainian conflict. here, accordingly, this is one of the weaknesses, just erdogan's policy, policy in the field, inflation and it is impossible to keep the lira exchange rate, but there are just a lot here and it does not depend on reasons inside turkey, this is a purely external reason and i also wanted to note that after all, uh, turkey knows how to somehow minimize these moments and find a replacement. that is, yes, lira is growing, but despite all this, despite a certain drop in gross domestic product, turkey today. that's thanks to the built gas pipelines. it is a necessary ally for the same europe because, despite all the anti-russian sanctions from europe, gas
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and oil. they still want to receive turkey , in this case they need it at this expense, turkey is trying to acquire certain dividends. well, when trading, reselling other people's resources, it seems to be saying something. and what is the moment e do not forget turkey is, e, such a serious outpost on the path of migration. that there is it for holding back 3 billion dollars worth of migrants on its territory. many experts argue with europe every year. but the devaluation of the lira is an extremely difficult financial situation. they will push the oni and these circumstances of the turks to go to the fans of the wef and the americans behind this institution. that is, either the same will play continue to play their ability. it's just that foreign trade is dubious cheaper, because
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um, if we superimpose this graph on uh, the world inflation rate is generally inside world economic system. we will see that , in principle, they are very synchronous with the turkish financial system and are already too dependent on external factors, and the events that happen to leroy are mainly conditioned. as a colleague correctly said , external factors, and there is a certain fault. ah, the government, erdogan and turkish experts and political scientists and economists are talking about this, but at some stage turkey decided to move on from the famous one. zero problems with neighbors to politics, no neighbors no problems. but at the same time, she very seriously depended on border trade, on interaction with syria, on interaction with iraq, on interactions with russia, including with russia, she managed to maintain this economic vector. but for other positions. well, not everything is so hmm interesting, but at the same time, uh, turkey is well aware that its salvation is not to
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bow to the americans, but to consistently continue the very policy of the hub, about which i spoke of becoming the center through which financial and goods flows from the east west from north to south. and vice versa, yes interesting superbly. thank you very much. here is the only thing you know that i would like to clarify. today we are talking about obere, and which is coming, which is reshaping the usual neurosystem. and this is really a strong leader and so we recalled, uh, we recall both the leader of the republic of belarus and the leader of turkey , and it’s important to note how much it is now without erdogan at all, turkey will it be able to return to the role of a large, rather strong, but -that's enough of the quiet state, because the upcoming elections, and many are pushed to reason about, and if turkey is without the erdogans as a whole on the one
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hand, turkey is very lucky that it had such a strong leader at the right time in the right place, but on the other hand. i think that, uh, in the case of here, even it is not so much about losing, about leaving for some other reason, rather erdogan. then another one will appear, because the system itself will need it, but i do not predict erdogan's defeat in the next elections . now i would like to. tell our to viewers information about erdogan's main opponents in the upcoming elections, the details on the screen of 52 became widely known after the victory. in the elections of the head of istanbul in march 2019. he bypassed the candidate who sent the party of justice and development binaly ildirim, the closest associate of erdogan, if you won in istanbul, you won recep erdogan in turkey, the president of
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turkey, the screen and could gain about 46% of the vote. mansoursh, aged 67, became the first opposition candidate to defeat his ankara mayor in the last 25 years. the victory is described as the rise of the turkish position in the municipalities. mansur evazh is the most popular mayor in turkey, he can get about 50% of the vote. yes, indeed, we could get about 46% of cream, but it won’t , because in turkey they sentenced the opposition mayor of istanbul to 2 years and seven months on charges of insulting representatives of the cik dmitry what do you think it is? how to take it? this is a reprisal against opponents, or this is, uh, such are the rules of the game. well tough political fight in turkey has been going on for really years. and when mr. erdogan was in power,
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and turkey was a fairly stable political entity, but we must not forget that before that turkey was a country of regular military coups, regular yes, and therefore, today erdogan’s positions, and a stable, but not indisputable significant number of people in country. well, for the most obvious reasons, first of all, economic ones would like to. and let's see something new, maybe it will work out, but at the same time, one should not think that it will be necessary, for example pro-western, if turkey is liberal, but liberal the western flank is present, it is certainly present, especially in large cities. ah, but at the general level of turkish voters it is not so significant, so even if, uh, although i agree with my colleague, it is unlikely, uh, in the next elections, and erdogan will suddenly leave. uh, something very similar will come to power. these will also be conservative forces in conjunction, most likely, with the nationalists, as
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it is now operating. we must not forget that not only the justice and development party today he leads turkey a. this coalition still has nationalists. here's more about the army. yes, mycels correctly says that the army for a long time since the time of actually kemal, turkic army was a separate institution of the political system of turkey, which played the role of a certain balance. so 2016 violated this system today the army. it ceased to be independent, it was actually subordinated to the government, it has ceased and today, no matter how it poses, in fact, it is already a danger to political power. this is the first second, what is it about also already sounded in the reports. eh, after all, erdogan really came to power in many ways, firstly, when he was an oppositionist. that is, he is the same oppositionist who challenged the then authorities, challenged and won, but his ideas are his ideology, which is built largely on
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such a quiet creeping revival of islam and, given the islamization of the region as a whole, and it will be supported by international pro- islamic circles , therefore and this is that this is the territory of deep turkey - this is a territory, just not urban, but rural, given that, unlike belarus, for example, where is 75-80% of the city? what kind of population and order there is only a fifth of the rural, and in turkey everything is a little bit, on the contrary, therefore, who wins the elections there is largely decided by small territories , small cities, mainly focused on agriculture for services, but not large industrial cities there centers. yes, indeed, and with regard to russia, even opponents are sure that after putin the country will not abandon a sovereign and strong foreign policy and
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in essence, turkey is most likely waiting for this. that is. uh, will the star of turkey go down without erdogan sooner, no, rather not, although attempts. uh, our well-known western partners will continue, and they will try to rock the turkish one, including the public. we must not forget that erdogan was initially able to wriggle out of that very arc of instability. which the americans drew in the middle east during this well-known arab, but it should have, damn it, not only erdogan's arab spring succeeded from this very cunning ways to get out, but no one removed the task, in fact it is called, so the americans will try. thank you very much aleksey literally 30 seconds final, nevertheless, turkey is really demonstrating another breakthrough today. this is a state with serious potential. globally, probably not, but from the point of view of a regional player. it will remain in
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this region for a long time, since its geopolitical position and economic demographics contribute to its transformation into a definite center of power. i'm grateful respected by the guests for a balanced extremely interesting discussion, and i would like to end it with a quote from the historical novel by valentin ivanov, who wrote a lot about the empires of the past, harsh for the future. it is said that the strength of the population were born in twins. or, in their late maturity, the only difference between them was barrenness and violence, but who can say how tomorrow will end, when he has not yet been born, no one thanks. well, now authorized to declare. turkey erdogan implements a modern version multi-vector.
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