and quite frankly, he says that, for example, the modern un system should be changed, which, as turkish politicians say, the world is more than five. yes, at one time, the americans were very happy about this, thinking that the conversation was about the exclusion of russia, for example , the un security council, but then the turkish comrades explained that the americans too. this also applies. well, by the way, mind many experts. observers note that today turkey has become the main beneficiary, the current most acute in many decades, and the crisis and systems of international relations and turkey is needed by everyone and the west and russia and ukraine and china and its arab neighbors. and at the same time, in relations with each of the players, turkey behaves extremely wisely. and you know, she knows how to get what she needs from everyone, how to describe this policy. this is a multi-vector policy, which we often like to say and are considered to be. that this is the key

to successful and reasonable development of the state. and turkey, the leadership of turkey is very well aware that for that very, uh, neo from the manist project, he does not have enough, like at least one resource, and to obtain these resources, turkey uses the so-called hub technology, when uh resources flow to turkey a, when a foreign resources can very often be used to achieve their own goals. this is a normal policy from the point of view of the place in modern international relations that turkey occupies, you correctly noted, turkey is a very convenient partner for both the west and the east and for russia, and of course the turkish, and the leaders - this is good, they realize and use it with all their might this. well, you know, here after all, they say multi-vector. it must be understood that turkey has a number of obligations, firstly, turkey is certainly a bright member of nato, one of the strongest armies, that is.

turkey’s strategy in military terms should be considered through nato’s strategy, therefore, for the same russian federation for belarus , which is in alliance with the russian federation from a military point of view, turkey should be considered as an adversary and we should not forget about it and we should not think that we are our own here multi-vector. we can change something. second, when we talk about after all, turkey, despite the long waits under the doors of the european union and it seems, as they have already forgotten that they should be admitted to the european union, but turkey is still oriented again, pro-western in its economic policy. first of all. this can be seen from the structure of its economics of trade relations, so it is multi-vector. it exists only in the sense that turkey , just under these conditions, is trying to apply its interests to relations with countries that are actually allies for it can not be considered, speaking of desire. or you don’t want to be a

part of the european union at the moment. let’s talk in more detail with the hungarian expert on security policy, ex-deplomat attila, diatel’s demo , answer on our website still has the status of a candidate began membership in the european union , the process was blocked by a kind. and apparently erdogan. no longer interested imagine that it loses the election in next year. can we imagine that the eu will finally accept turkey as a problem, or the problem is not the enemy, that there is definitely an economic

crisis in the eu, it continues at the present time, but if erdogan loses the election, if his party loses the election, then i think that there is a chance that negotiations with turkey will be opened again, but it will take a very long time in the current format, the eu is not ready to accept new members. and if this still happens, then, probably, at the beginning they will go the balkan countries and then to ukraine and moldova which also applied for membership, that is, the waiting list of candidates. and unfortunately, many eu countries do not really look even at what happened this week to romania, which allows free movement within. those countries are

against further enlargement and even eu members such as romania bulgaria failed to get what they generally deserve, namely membership in the schengen area thank you very much and my next question russia and turkey have a lot in common both countries historically have elites, who took their cue from europe but never belonged to europe fully integrated with the west, but by their repulsion. don't you think that now is such a turning point when turkey, just as russia can finally leave its fruitless aspirations for europe and look east in the eyes of its eurasian destiny, both russia and turkey are imperial countries. in the sense that they have a fairly long history of existence as an empire. they never tried to enter europe. smaller countries

try to do it, so you can't to compare with turkey with serbia in terms of scale, it has already been mentioned that there is an idea of ​​ottomanism. turkey itself is a force and just like russia wants it differently. this is the usual union of a smaller country, of course, there is france in germany, but germany has historical ambitions and integrated the european space in france, everything is a little different, but turkey has a very clear sense of its own mission. and i'm not sure that it will fit well in europe and, of course , in russia there is also a sense of its mission. and now we have a crisis with russia thank you , sir. oh, lyosha in our telegram. thank you

dmitry well, in fact, it was said that, of course, for european bureaucrats, turkey's candidacy yes to join the european union it is not attractive to them now due to mr. erdogan's certain, but uncomfortable position. that is, if mr. erdogan does not suddenly win the upcoming elections, then the dialogue will probably continue. although looking at the collapse of the former, successful enough construction called the european union, looking at those the crises that it faces today and that's what it is. here is a snowball that is only now gaining momentum, if today's turkey wants to be part of this union, let's start sociology. yes, for a long time, and turkish citizens were divided into about three parts of the third for the entry of the third against the entry of the third. over the past few

years, there has been a steady trend that more than 50% of turkish citizens are not very eager to join the european union, and i suspect that if we now conduct a deep sociology, at the moment there will be even fewer of these citizens, and turkey stood at the door of the european union for many years and hmm tried to somehow negotiate with the european bureaucracy, and the european bureaucracy always communicated with turkey hmm, and from a somewhat condescending, firstly, secondly, put up a long list of conditions. and most importantly, what did she do? she never showed the whole list, and the turkish leaders already had a feeling what the next requirements would be, what should we do? yes, where do you go with the whole country there, i don’t know to conduct lgbt propaganda at the official level that we should the turks have been talking for a very long time, but you give us these conditions in their entirety. maybe we can meet them. but now the situation has changed for turkey. the european union is no longer such an attractive object. accession from the point of view of the economy

customs union turkey the european union operates turkey will continue to receive its economic bonuses, moreover, in the current conditions, the number of these bonuses will increase, but turkey's participation in the political structure. yes, the european union now seems superfluous to the turks. they see that m-m the independence of the european states of the members of the european union is steadily falling ; they are more and more falling under direct dictate. it is clear who overseas their immediate patrons in one form or another. yes, that's why turkey hmm, probably, they are not ready to join the european union now, but if they think about the possibility of the european union joining turkey, it would be extremely attractive for the turkish side. but let's display our beautiful map, i will ask colleagues, and display the turkish map on plasma military presence abroad. this is the picture we see at the moment and, in fact, we can imagine the latitude. neo-ottoman

ambitions ebb to central asia and does turkey really have enough strength to conduct a session of simultaneous play on so many boards alexey as you know, turkey , of course, still claims to be a major regional power to defend its interests, including by military means, the military presence of turkey is also unequal, this must be understood, that is, here we have afghanistan written in afghan presence. today, it can actually be forgotten, because it was a presence along with american troops. eh, when it comes to where, for example, it is more dangerous, we see that, firstly, of course, directly the border of syria and cancer. these are the places where the concentration of turkish troops is greatest, and there we are actually talking about the occupation of entire parts of independent states. we see that the serious presence of turkey in libya

is very important for the turkish side, since this is one of the attempts to protect, including its own energy interests, there is oil production, the support of this national ruler of the government of national accord, yes, and a counterweight to caliph haftar, here turkey simultaneously, as it were, kills two birds with one stone. that is, it solves its own issues and opposes russia, it does not allow russia to strengthen, which supported caliph haftar. here, uh, well, on the other hand, of course, this is presence. uh, quite small, that is, to say that, uh, turkey can seriously influence the military situation far abroad, it will probably be uh, a bit premature, but close to their borders for sure. uh, the turkish army continues to play a serious role. and uh, the power of turkey here will manifest itself precisely as a direct, not soft, namely, hard, hard power plus. we see a very serious problem for

the same post-soviet space. this is precisely the military presence of turkey's military assistance, firstly to azerbaijan in the nagorno-karabakh conflict, and secondly , direct, in fact military, direct military support to ukraine in this case as well. unfortunately for russia, yes, turkey again shows himself not as an ally. namely, as an adversary militarily. that's why, uh, there is consideration given your analytics. you can even compare erdogan's policy rather with the behavior of bender, who plays 12 spanish parties. and somewhere, yes, he will win. yes, at the moment other participants in the growth are taking advantage of this situation, because in past programs we spoke about the future, yes, the world order, but multipolarity. and here is one of the participants of the authors of the international

politi. will be able to sit down at the table of great powers and in fact, the question arose of turkey as an average state has the right to this what will it depend on? well, firstly, turkey has already decided for itself a long time ago. it does not consider itself a regional power; it quite considers itself a great power, but the corresponding ambitions. and resources, as i said earlier , are not quite enough for this yet, but turkey is learning to use resources. and their partners. yes, when we talk about, for example, about, but various integration projects that turkey is promoting, well, let's say in the caucasus and central asia a. she latently has in her head the possibility of using resources, including in the sphere of security of these states, to achieve some of her specific goals, we see this on the example of azerbaijan, but it is quite transparent to ourselves. i'll say this carefully, yes, but what about the immediate? the presence

of the turkish military is all over this wide map, well, really, for the time being, it looks more like such an attempt to stake out important points, yes, in just a few minutes fedor lukyanov will join our broadcast editor-in-chief of russia in global affairs magazine. we continue the discussion in the program sasu is authorized to declare. i am glad to welcome fyodor alexandrovich lukyanov , director of scientific work of the international discussion club, to our studio. valdaya is also the editor-in -chief of the magazine russia in global affairs fyodor alexandrovich hello in the current crisis, erdogan, as a diplomat looks either a modern tolerant, or an honest bismarck broker, in your opinion, is he tempted in diplomacy or others just made so many mistakes

that, compared with them, the turkish leaders look so successful against their background. i think that at a historical distance we are idealizing this veranda and bismarck, and they seem to us to be some kind of hyperboreans, such supermen and super-diplomats. uh, it certainly looked a lot different up close, much less avant-garde, and in that sense, well, you can probably compare. uh, later, there centuries or decades, at least, they will probably look at turkey's policy during this period as, for example, extremely sophisticated. in general, quite successful diplomacy, but does he look better compared to others, but it’s hard to say everyone is good now so , honestly characterize, but erdogan is a man with an amazing instinct, he has a sense of power and a sense of opportunity, and plus he is brave

, he can , so to speak, daring, and he is not afraid to bluff, where necessary, where it is necessary to use some kind of force. here you are eh? we used the analogy from the stop, bender is there, who plays many games, but let me remind you that the session ended ended simultaneous play with a historical throw of pieces in the face of a one-eyed chess player. here erdogan erdogan has not yet done this. and what’s more, i don’t think he will, because unlike ostap bender, he understands that the situation can turn around. otherwise, if the one-eyed chess players. here you will catch up all the same in this sense, he, in my opinion, somewhere he knows the line in general, but he is simply sure that this is a game, there is nothing. thanks a lot. another question is about the fact that russia and turkey have a historical complex in common. now rather promising relations with europe, both of them wanted to

be at one time, parts of it refused to become periphery and eventually moved into the category of enemies. is a strategic alliance between moscow and ankara possible against this background? although well, perhaps, it is not as formal as it is. at the moment, there is no strategic alliance between russia and china. i think it cannot be here, here it can be discussed separately. how strategic is the alliance between russia and china? that is, it is an alliance, of course, and it is strategic, but there are nuances. they say, but as for turkey, this is hmm a completely different phenomenon. uh, it seems to me that here at the heart of the relationship, unlike in russia and china where trust is present, it can be tested, but it is still there at a basic level. here, between russia and turkey, between e, even, probably,

between putin and erdogan, and trust is not very noticeable, but there is, uh, a good understanding of a partner, an understanding that each other needs is very simply critically important. uh, turkey for russia for turkey now. and here it is is a more fundamental basis for successful interaction than there i don't know value unity. or even a coincidence of interests, that is, the fact that turkey and russia are to each other. maybe, roughly speaking, very bad shit. sorry for the language. and not this, but in fact it holds together more than any commonality. uh, interests and goals. i highly doubt whether this type of relationship is tegical, but now in general it’s not enough in the strategic world thank you very much for the excellent analytics fyodor aleksandrovich lukyanov was with us in touch. we continue our program. indeed, we talk a lot about the wise

and cunning position of mr. erdokan, and now not since recently, the heading portraits periodically appears in our program. so right now i would like to tell our viewers in more detail . who is the turkish person mr. arkan please recep erdogan began his political career while still a student in 1975. he organized a youth movement for the icelandic national salvation party. however, after the military coup in 1980, lost his job because of his poly activities and was forced to join the army. after returning from service, erdogan again set his sights on politics from 1983 to 1994 , his political activities were entirely associated with the welfare party, which actively participated in the ruling islamic coalition, then erdogan was able to establish contact with the local residents of istanbul

who in 1994 elected him mayor of the city from 2003 2015 erdogan was the prime minister of turkey in whose hands the main power in the country was concentrated by his main achievements were the monetary reform, the successful fight against corruption, the construction of new social power plants, institutions, the strengthening of democracy in the country, and in 2013, erdogan lifted the restriction on the wearing of hijabs, traditional in islam, in public places. at the same time, the eu began to focus on the fact that the policy of the new prime minister led to the infringement of freedom of speech in turkey in 2014, erdogan announced his intention to run for the presidency of the country in the first popular elections in turkey , he confidently won them and gained almost 52% votes became the country's first popular president. let's start a new period of social reconciliation today and leave the old discussions in old turkey however, in 2016,

another shock awaited the country, a military group attempted another coup in istanbul and some other places. real battles unfolded, according to some reports, the rebels acted with the consent of the united states but in the first hours. they failed to kill erdogan. as they say about the danger, he was warned from moscow, and the majority of ordinary citizens opposed the conspirators. behind for several days the rebellion was generally suppressed, and erdogan only strengthened his power by depriving the army of tools to influence the policy of our armed forces. after the new laws that we are preparing now, they will only become stronger , the commanders will be subordinate to the minister of defense, namely the minister. they are to the ministry, thanks to the actions of erdogan, the export of turkish products reached its maximum size in 2021 and in monetary terms amounted to 221 billion dollars. gdp growth, no less

impressive, reached double digits. because of what erdogan rightfully calls his homeland, a rising star of the 21st century, despite this, erdogan's rating began to fall due to the changing economic situation for the worse. lira local currency exchange rate. rushed down, which became a threat to politicians. as the leader of the country, erdogan plays the role of a key mediator in what remains of the negotiations between russia and ukraine in any case, it is istanbul that has now become a geopolitical offshore meeting point. so they were carried out in the cold war. in geneva in the same or in vienna and alexei how do you think, how much can it be an alternative to the minsk agreements, which, in fact, the lack of the ability to implement them, led to the fact that we now see on the territory of ukraine whether there may be in the future, we are signing the istanbul agreements, because

we see mr. erdogan's keen desire to become peacekeepers in this conflict situation , well, about erdogan the peacemaker. you must have been too hasty. uh, as it has been said many times here, turkey acts on the basis of its own interests. here's the thing about conflict. e ukraine and russia then we see certainly the interest of turkey uh, turkey has turned here uh geopolitically. yes, purely from a geographical point of view. it has turned into a country that allows or does not allow ships to enter the black sea through the bosphorus strait, which in this case controls cargo flows, including that notorious grain of food, and, the export of which from ukraine has been talked about for so long and a lot, europe, therefore, we saw that the negotiations that took place in istanbul, they actually, like, uh, according to statements made right there after these negotiations were quite successful, but then they were completely disavowed, their results and nothing

really happened as a result, that is, to consider in this case, again, turkey, which is a person to some extent interested, since its position on crimea is quite known. they do not recognize the annexation of crimea to russia, here is their position on support, including by supplying weapons of drones to ukraine by supporting this crimean tatar mejlis, which operates on the territory of ukraine, this everything certainly makes turkey not a neutral territory, but a participant in the events, in contrast to the minsk agreements, where minsk really occupied then. everything is absolutely neutral and our president alexander lukashenko is sincere. here, unlike mrs. merkel, who opened up here the other day. yes, our president very sincerely wanted real reconciliation, he did everything to the maximum in order to close this issue to resolve the ukrainian conflict, which is specifically recep taip

erdogan from turkey. we do not see such sincerity, by the way, alexey with your permission. let 's remind our viewers of how the belarusian-turkish relationship of attention to the screen developed. bilateral diplomatic relations between belarus and turkey established in 1992 in march 2022 in minsk, ankara celebrated their 30th anniversary, such as relations, a new impetus for cooperation was given by the visit of the president of turkey to belarus in 2016 , negotiations between alexander lukashenko and rece on erdogan in minsk lasted several hours , the leaders of the two countries discussed in detail in the most various topics ranging from interstate cooperation to global and regional issues turkey is a priority partner. we highly value our friendship and are focused on productive interaction in all areas and let's advance our relations as far as

we can. and you and i can do a lot, our advantage is that the economies of belarus do not compete with turkey, but complement each other, turkey is ready to further stimulate the arrival of turkish businessmen to the belarusian market to expand investment contacts since then, trade between belarus and turkey has developed rapidly. in 2021, trade turnover exceeded $1 billion; exports of more than $360 million, and imports of about $720 million ; more than 120 business entities with turkish capital are registered in our country; there is also an agreement between belarus and turkey on mutual visas from mene; belarusians can continuously stay in the territory turkey, up to 30 days from the moment of entry, is actively developing cooperation through the state, administrative and foreign policy departments of the countries in october this year, the

presidents of belarus and turkey also met at the summit meeting on interaction and confidence building measures. in asia, there are many topics for discussion during the negotiations, recep tayyip erdogan invited alexander lukashenko to turkey to continue the conversation. yes, dmitry, please tell me, here's your opinion. what kind of game can minsk play in difficult, but extremely necessary at the moment relations between ankara and moscow and what role of turkey in general you see for the foreign policy of belarus they say in recent years, primarily russian, and he is no longer only a specialist, but such a multipolarity is not at all necessary that you and your partner agree on everything and you are strategic allies with him. well, and so on and so on. yes you can remain zones in which you, like us from turkey, have agreed not to negotiate. ah, but

these zones do not prevent us from developing other areas of cooperation. well, for example, everything in the economic economy of russia and turkey is quite transparent and obvious. there is competition there, and countries periodically squeeze the switch to each other. yes, but this is a normal part of the relationship between business entities. i would put it this way, it works at all levels, including interstate ones, and in the field of security. we had a big laconian, but after the well-known events in syria, when the russian plane was shot down, both sides realized that in the field of security it is necessary to establish a dialogue more actively. now he has appeared. now, for a reason, russian weapons appear there in turkey, which nato partners really dislike. here, nevertheless, the dialogue continues in the field of humanitarian companies. yes. tell me, say it yourself, the head of nato does not like the russian partner. well, at the same time, turkey continues those relationships that are beneficial to it. turkey is well aware that you and where are the levers

the impact of a full-fledged, including nato, on turkey well, here is the attempted coup d'état, which was just mentioned in the plot? well, in the end, she didn’t play, let’s not talk about how much this coup really was, that there are different versions of hmm, but nonetheless. she didn't play. yes, and the americans tried to put pressure on their turkish partners. uh, the suspension of the contract for military aviation contracts, there and so on, they got it. well, not quite, turkey answered this. yes, let's close your military scene and there will be no europeans, but denied supplies to turkey. well, for example , rain metal products for military purposes, and the turkish military industry, well, what did the europeans get, the loss of the contract, turkey went to asia for about the same yes, and returning to the issue of belarus, belarus is also a sovereign normal predictable player in the field of international relations. ah, of

course, much closer to russia for natural reasons, a and in this case , this hmm union is truly an allied relationship between moscow and minsk, a union state between moscow and minsk allows it exerts us in so many moments, well, not pressure. this is the wrong word for turkey. yes , but to speak from a common position. making it clear to ankara and where are the borders to which ankara can reach, i emphasize turkey - the turks themselves do not like to say so, but that's for sure, and the system of power is about leadership and it is constantly probing. eh partner. yes. let's put it this way, and turkey will take exactly that much. how much the partner will give them in this sense, so russia and belarus show turkey every time, it’s profitable there, but here it is unprofitable to go back. you know, there is another question, what about really belarus and turkey, again, from the point of view of geopolitical e?

they are simpler and cleaner than relations between russia and turkey, that is, a direct intersection, for example, of military and geopolitical interests, if we leave turkey’s nato membership aside yes, but there were no direct border disputes between belarus and turkey. and god forbid, and again there will not be a good enough personal relationship between our president and turkish. uh, they exist and uh, like everyone uh, they see it. yes, belarus is the only european country invited to the islamic conference, which through this structure has the opportunity too. e. well, if not a direct influence, then it promotes its interests in belarus again. with turkey indeed. now, if we compare the economic relations of russia now, of course, as a country more powerful and larger in terms of economy, and turkey, they have a different trade turnover. but belarus, if we look at our turnover goods, which here now it was said, and e, you know, that we do not

have all the allies in the eurasian economic union and, especially in the cis , there is more than a billion goods turnover, so much more than all other allies from kazakhstan. we are from russia. deep below. that is why turkey is indeed, as it was said in the story, our president was voiced as a priority partner. in this case, we again have an interest, e.g. , in trading according to the structure. uh, turkey supplies belarus more than we do there. to some extent, we are a little bit from it. dependent. that's but with all this, uh, relationship. these are exactly the kind of business partnerships we have, and of course. er, russian diplomacy can use belarusian diplomacy to send these messages to additional channels. quite right. yes about there possible relationship. that is, we are in this case, although, again, our president does not like this word to be an intermediary, right? but just the

belarusian mediation mission. it could well be implemented. in this case, i really like the phrase connecting the bridge. here it is. rather, it is more appropriate. i can not but ask about one of the main issues for our region in international politics for several centuries, the question of the black sea straits. that week, the european union led the ceiling of prices for russian oil, and the bosphorus immediately formed again a cork and stankers. how important is the control over the straits for the turkish great power. please tell me, it's definitely important. e control over the straits. it is one of the political pillars of the international sense, on which e holds hmm european powerful. let's put it this way, in this case, european power, turkey, but i draw your attention to the fact that our turkish partners, a and the alternative version are also considering, like the istanbul canal yes, like additional branches, yes. it will be possible to

use the attention that turkey, for example, closed the passage for warships, including the nato black sea. now i am profitable for russia, it is also beneficial. imagine how it turns out. i want to pay attention to how they closed, that is, they motivated. they said that we do not want to contribute to the expansion of conflicts. that is , in this case they declared a certain neutral peacekeeping position. let them figure it out themselves. yes, we can’t discuss the problem areas that we are currently facing, turkey. i ask my colleagues to draw a graph of inflation in turkey over the past years. here we see what a cut over the past 5 years, then a rather critical situation, but we are talking about inflation in relation to the love corner of the globe. yes at the moment and here is looking at the economic situation in the turkish republic series. nazrevateley

still call the country an ear of clay with feet of clay, because, unlike the united states, russia , china or even iran, turkey simply does not have the money for imperial ambitions. is this really so, but why did this inflation arise, right? this is a situation, in fact, a post-covid one of the serious parts of the turkish economy, it has always been a tourism issue and stingy restrictions. very strong. this industry has been crippled, uh, plus today's conflict. in fact, turkey also has interest in its termination, because mutual trade is weakened in this case due to the russian ukrainian conflict. here, accordingly, this is one of the weaknesses, just erdogan 's policy, policy in the field, and inflation, and it is impossible to contain the lira, but there are just a lot here and it does not depend on reasons inside turkey, this is a purely external reason. and i also wanted to

note that after all, uh, turkey knows how to somehow minimize these moments and find a replacement. that is, yes, lyra is growing, but despite all this, despite there's a definite drop in gross domestic product, turkey today. that's thanks to the built gas pipelines. it is a necessary ally for the same europe because, despite all the anti-russian sanctions from europe, gas and oil. they still want to receive turkey , in this case they need it at this expense, turkey is trying to acquire certain dividends. well, when trading and reselling other people's resources, it seems to be saying something. and what is the moment e do not forget turkey is, e, such a serious outpost on the path of migration. that there is it for holding back on its territory emigrants worth 3 billion dollars.

many experts argue with europe every year. but the devaluation of the lira is an extremely difficult financial situation. they will push the oni and these circumstances of the turks to bow to the mv and the americans behind this institution. that is, either they will continue to play their simple foreign trade function, a dubious function , they are sold cheaper, because mmm, if we superimpose this graph on uh, the level of world inflation in general within the world economic systems. we will see that, in principle, they are very synchronous with the turkish financial system and are already too dependent on external factors , and the events that happen to leroy are mainly conditioned. as a colleague correctly said, external factors, and there is a certain fault. ah, the government, erdogan and turkish experts and political scientists and economists are talking about this, but at some stage turkey decided to move on from the famous one.

zero problems with neighbors to politics, no neighbors no problems. here but she at the same time very seriously dependent on border trade on interaction with syria on interaction with iraq on interactions with russia, including with russia, managed to maintain this economic vector. but for other positions. well, not everything is so hmm interesting, but at the same time, turkey is well aware that its salvation is not to bow to the americans, but to consistently continue the very policy of the hub, about which i spoke of becoming a center through which financial and goods flows from east to west from north to south. and on the contrary, yes it is interesting superbly. thank you very much. here is the only thing you know that i would like to be precise. today we are talking about obere, and who is coming, who is reshaping the usual neurosystem. and this is really a strong leader and so we recalled, uh, here we recall both the leader of the republic of belarus and

the leaders of turkey, and it’s important to note how much it is now without erdogan at all, turkey will it be able to return to the role of a large , rather strong hmm but that’s all - that's enough of the quiet state, because the upcoming elections, and many are being pushed to reasoning about, and if turkey is without the erdogans as a whole on the one hand, turkey is very lucky that it had such a strong leader at the right time in the right place, but on the other hand. i think that, uh, in the case of here, even it is not so much about losing, about leaving for some other reason, rather erdogan. then another one will appear, because the system itself will need it, but i do not predict erdogan's defeat in the next elections. now i would like to. to inform our viewers of information about the main opponents of erdogan on

upcoming election details on the screen 52 years has become widely known after the victory. in the elections of the head of istanbul in march 2019. he bypassed the candidate who sent the justice and development party binali ildirim, erdogan's closest ally, if you won in istanbul, you won recep erdogan in turkey, president of turkey screen and could get about 46% of the vote. 67 years old became the first opposition candidate to win the ankara mayoral election in the last 25 years, his victory is described as a rise in turkish positions in the municipalities of mansur-e, your is the most popular mayor in turkey, he can get about 50% of the votes. yes, indeed, krema could gain about 46%, but it won’t

, because in turkey they sentenced the opposition mayor of istanbul to 2 years and seven months on charges of insulting representatives of the cik dmitry what do you think it is? how to take it? this is a reprisal against opponents, or these are the rules of the game. well, a tough political struggle in turkey has been going on for really years. uh, when mr. erdogan was in power, and turkey was a fairly stable political entity, but we must not forget that before that turkey was a country of regular military coups on a regular basis. yes, and therefore, today erdogan's position is rather stable, but not indisputable, a significant number of people in the country. well, for the most obvious reasons, first of all, economic ones would like to. and let's see something new, maybe it will work out, but at the same time, one should not think that this new will be necessary, for example , pro-western, if turkey has a liberal e, liberal western flank is present, it

is certainly present, especially in large cities. ah, but at the general level of turkish voters, it is not so significant, so even if a, although i agree with my colleague, it is unlikely, e, in the next elections, and erdogan will suddenly leave. uh, something very similar will come to power. these will also be conservative forces in conjunction, most likely, with the nationalists, as it is now operating. it should not be forgotten that not only the justice and development party is leading turkey today but. this coalition still has nationalists. here's more about the army. yes, miceli correctly says that the army, for a long time since the time of actually kemal ataturk , the army was a separate institution of the turkish political system, which played the role of a certain balance. so 2016 violated this system today the army. it ceased to be independent , it was actually subordinated to the government, it has ceased and today, no matter how it

poses, in fact, it is already a danger to political power. this is the first second, something that has already been mentioned here in the reports. uh, after all, indeed, erdogan came to power in many ways, firstly, when he was an oppositionist. that is, he is the same oppositionist who challenged the then authorities, challenged and won, but his ideas are his ideology, which is built largely on such a quiet creeping revival of islam and, given the islamization of the region as a whole, and it will be supported by international pro- islamic circles , therefore, uh, and this is that this is the territory of deep turkey - this is a territory, just not urban, but rural, given that, nevertheless, unlike there from belarus, for example, where is 75-80% of the city? what kind of population and there is only about a fifth of the rural population, and in turkey everything is a little bit, on the contrary, so who wins, there in the elections

it is largely decided by small territories , small cities, mainly focused on agriculture for services, but not large cities there industrial centers. yes, it’s true, and with regard to russia, even opponents are sure that after putin the country will not abandon a sovereign and strong foreign policy, and in fact turkey is most likely waiting for this. that eat. uh, will the star of turkey go down without erdogan sooner, no, rather not, although attempts. uh, our well-known western partners will continue, and they will try to rock the turkish one, including the public. we must not forget that a , initially, but erdogan, actually managed to wriggle out of that very arc of instability. which the americans drew in the middle east during this well-known arab, but it should have been, damn it, not only erdogan's arab

spring managed to get out of this with very cunning methods, but no one had tasks filmed. actually called, so the americans will try. thank you very much aleksey literally 30 seconds final, nevertheless, turkey is really demonstrating another breakthrough today. this is a state with serious potential. globally, probably not, but from the point of view of a regional player. it will remain in this region for a long time, since its geopolitical position and economic demographics contribute to its transformation into a definite center of power. i am grateful, respected by the guests for the extremely balanced interesting discussion, and i would like to end it with a quote from the historical novel by valentin ivanov, who wrote a lot about the empires of the past, harsh for the future. it is said that the strength of the population were born in twins. or, in their late maturity , the only difference between them was

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