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patrolling the territory. a major corruption scandal in the eu in accepting bribes from taxpayers in the process of considering an application for hosting the world cup accused several euro deputies from the socialist faction, including the vice president of the european parliament. eva kylie rep in greece, the belgian police arrested against qatar where the football championship ended today in europe, a powerful information company has been going on for a long time emirate, where it is too hot for a normal game of football and there are no strong sports traditions, they are suspected of buying the championship. for the sake of improvement. the image of the country, while searching the house of the vice-president of the european parliament. according to rumors , they found whole bags of cash. germany claims to have uncovered a conspiracy to violently overthrow the government in the country and establish a monarchy as part of the investigation, reminiscent of the plot of a hollywood action movie , more than 50 people were arrested, who allegedly

planned the storming of the bundestag, the assassination of the chancellor, schultz and a number of ministers. among the suspects, an ex-deputy from the alternative for germany party, veterans of the special services and the heir to an old princely family, a number of observers believe that the conspiracy is just an excuse to crack down on the right-wing conservative opposition that opposes the imposition of lgbt and ideology and confrontation with russia in connection with the latter, as one would already expect blamed the failed rebels. well, the topic of today's turkish somersault program, we are talking about erdogan's policy and the modern interpretation of multi-vector approach, may 29, 1453. fell in constantinople, the turks crushed byzantium, but not the imperial idea; the conqueror of the city on the banks of the bosphorus, sultan mehmet ii , immediately after the victory. took the title of kaiser and room. what does the caesar of rome mean and this title

was very dear to the ottoman emperors, who considered themselves the heirs of the roman empire. imperial, the idea is again hovering over the golden horn bay, modern turkey is increasingly claiming the status of a great power. istanbul again wants to be a constant city city of kings or caesars i smoke these words alone, will it be possible to talk about this in today's program. i am glad to welcome alexey belyaev, political scientist , candidate of historical sciences, to our studio. good evening. hello and dmitry egor. political scientist , director of the ruden institute for strategic studies and forecasts. hello , we start our discussion by tradition with millet blitz. today it sounds like this: the ottoman empire is being revived alex please. well, basically we we observe that the current president of turkey does not hide his neo-ottoman aspirations and indeed his policy. uh, building

a strong turkey today in the conditions when the world's hegemons. eh, they are fighting among themselves, but they are remaking power at the highest level, and turkey is taking advantage of this moment in order to strengthen itself precisely as a serious regional power. we see that under erdogan, the military presence in a number of states has also significantly expanded. we see that erdogan very successfully uses modern hydrocarbon disputes in his interests. and the fact that there were, uh, the largest gas pipelines through turkey, the turkish stream, the blue stream, turned turkey into a very serious player in this regard. we see that erdogan certainly managed to suppress the internal opposition after 2016, and therefore today his political power is quite strong. dmitry in your opinion. is the great idea of ​​the ottoman empire being revived? well, she already objected, and today's turkey and as

many experts and turkologists say directly and experts in the near the east is sympathized with two syndromes. one of them. uh, just the imperial syndrome, and the syndrome in this sense has a negative connotation. yes, but just a description, what is called an anamnesis of some? yes, and indeed such neosporinskaya ideology. it is in turkey now, uh, in fact, it is state-owned, and turkey is actively striving. e in those zones in which the ottoman empire was once strong, but more and more actively present e-e in the economy in security policy. and what is very important for turkey in the semantic ideological sphere, turkey is making great efforts in this regard. and very often, uh, these efforts of turkey even go beyond. what

is the name of the historical map of the ottoman empire, the second important syndrome is the syndrome of infringement, and turkey feels that it is underestimated in world affairs, and it speaks quite frankly that, for example, the modern system. it should be changed, which, as turkish politicians say, the world is more than five, yes, at one time the americans were very happy about this, thinking that the conversation was about exclusion of russia, for example, the un security council well, then the turkish comrades explained that the americans. it is too. well , by the way, mind many experts. observers note that today turkey has become the main beneficiary, the current most acute in many decades, and the crisis, and the system of international relations, turkey is needed by everyone, both the west and russia and ukraine, china and its arab neighbors. and at the same time, in relations with each of the players, turkey behaves extremely wisely. and

you know, he knows how to receive from everyone what she needs a way to describe that policy. this is a multi-vector policy. we often like to talk and it is believed that this is the key to the successful and reasonable development of the state. and turkey, the leadership of turkey is very well aware that for that same a-a neosporin project, it lacks at least one resource. ah, to obtain these resources, turkey uses the hub technology so-called yes, when m-m resources flow to turkey uh, when a foreign resources can very often be used to achieve their own goals. it's normal politics from the point of view of the place in modern international relations that turkey occupies, you correctly noted, turkey is a very convenient partner for both the west and the east and for russia, and of course, turkish, and the leaders - this is good, they realize and use it with all their might. well, you know,

still speaking here, the multi-vector approach must be understood that turkey has a number of obligations, firstly, turkey is certainly a bright member of nato, one of the strongest army is necessary and, accordingly, turkey's strategy militarily should be considered through nato strategy therefore, for the same russian federation for belarus, which is in alliance with the russian federation from a military point of view. turkey should be seen as an adversary. we must forget about this and do not think that here we are our multi-vector approach, we can change something. secondly, when we talk about a multi-vector approach, after all, turkey, despite a long wait under the doors of the european union and it seems, as they have already forgotten that they should be admitted to the european union, but turkey is still oriented again pro-western and in their economic policies. first turn. this can be seen from the structure of its economics of trade relations, so it is multi-vector. it exists only in the sense that turkey , just under these conditions,

is trying to apply its interests to relations with countries that can not actually be considered allies for it. by the way, about the desire, or not the desire, to be part of the european union at the moment and let's talk in more detail with a hungarian expert on security policy, an ex-diplomat, and a body and a haze of diotil. on our tv show and i'm glad to be here for the last few year s. we've basically forgotten that turkey still has the status of candidate leadership in the european union , the process has been kind of blocked. and apparently erdogan. it is no longer interesting to imagine that erdogan loses the elections next year. can we imagine that the eec will finally accept turkey as one strange part, or the problem is

not the enemy. i think that there is definitely economic expansion in the european union at the present time, but if erdogan loses the election, if his party loses the elections, then i think there is a chance that the negotiations with turkey will be reopened, but it will take a very long time in the current format, the eu is not ready to accept new family members, if this happens, then probably at the beginning the balkan countries will go and then to ukraine and moldova, which also applied for membership, that is, there is a very long list of candidates. and unfortunately, many eu countries are not very patient. let's take a look at what happened this week romania bulgaria failed to join gena

which allows free movement within european countries against further expansion. and even people like romania could not get what they generally listen to, namely membership in the schengen area thank you some and fashion russia and turkey have a lot in common both countries historically have elites that took a cue from europe but never belonged to europe to fully integrate with the west, but they were repelled, don't you think that now such a turning point the moment when turkey, just like russia , can finally leave its disembodied aspirations for europe and look east into the eyes of its eurasian destiny and russia and

turkey are imperial countries. in the sense that they have a fairly long history of existence as an empire. they have never tried to enter europe to do this, so it cannot be compared with turkey in terms of mentality. and yasmonism, turkey itself is a force and just like russia and will be given the format in the eu because it is organized differently. it's a normal union smaller countries, of course, there is germany, there is france, but germany left its historical ambitions behind and integrated with the european space in france, everything is a little different, but turkey has a very clear sense of its own mission. and i'm not sure

that it will fit well in europe and, of course , in russia there is also a sense of its mission. and now we have a crisis with russia. thank you mr. genk for your participation in our telegram. thanks dmitry well, in fact, it was said that, of course, for european bureaucrats, the candidacy of turkey yes, to join the european co. she is not attractive to them now due to a certain uncomfortable position of mr. erdogan. that is, if mr. erdokan does not suddenly win the upcoming elections, then the dialogue will probably continue. although looking at the collapse of the former, successful enough structure called the european union, looking at the crises that it is facing today and this is how it is. here is a snowball that is only now gaining momentum, if at all the desire of today's turkey to be part of of this union let us begin sociology. yes, for a long

time, and turkish citizens were divided into about three parts of a third for entry. a third is against joining, a third is not translated ah, for the past few years there has been a steady trend that more than 50% of turkish citizens are not very eager to join the european union, and i suspect that if we now conduct a deep sociology, now there will be even fewer of these citizens , and turkey stood at the door of the european union for many years and hmm tried to somehow negotiate with the european bureaucracy, and the european bureaucracy is always with hmm communicated with turkey, and with a little condescension, firstly, secondly, put up a long list of conditions. and most importantly, what did she do? she never showed the whole list, and the turkish leaders already had a feeling that what would be the next requirements, what should we do? yes, where do you go with the whole country there, i don’t know to conduct lgbt propaganda at the official level, which the turks have been

saying for a very long time, but you give us these conditions in full. maybe we can somehow match them, but now the situation has changed for turkey, the european union is no longer such an attractive object. accession from the point of view of the economy customs union turkey the european union operates turkey will continue to receive its economic bonuses, moreover, in the current conditions, the number of these bonuses will increase, but turkey's participation in the political structure. yes, the european union now seems superfluous to the turks. they see that, mm, the independence of the european states of the members of the european union is steadily falling , they fall more and more fall under direct dictatorship. it is clear who overseas their immediate patrons in one form or another. yes, that's why turkey hmm, probably, they are not ready to join the european union now, but if they think about the possibility of the european union joining turkey, it would be extremely attractive for the turkish side. but let 's display our excellent map, i will ask

colleagues, and display a map of the turkish military presence abroad on plasma. this is the picture we see at the moment and, in fact, we can imagine the latitude. neo ottoman ambitions from libya to central asia and whether in reality turkey has enough strength to conduct a session of simultaneous play on so many boards, you know, turkey, of course, still claims as a major regional power to defend its interests, including militarily, the military presence of turkey is also unequal, this must be understood, that is, here we have afghanistan written in the afghan presence. today, it can actually be forgotten, because it was a presence along with american troops. e, when it comes to where, for example, it is more dangerous, we see that, firstly, of course, the border itself, syria iraq , these are places where the concentration

of turkish troops is greatest, and there we are actually talking about the occupation of entire parts of independent states. we see that the serious presence of turkey in libya is very important for the turkish side, since this is one of the attempts to protect, including its energy interests, there oil production is the support of this national e, the government of national accord, yes, and a counterweight to caliph haftar, here turkey at the same time, as it were, kills two birds with one stone. that is, it solves its own issues and opposes russia, which does not allow russia to strengthen, which supported caliph haftar. here, uh, well, on the other hand, of course, this is presence. uh, quite small, that is, to say that, uh, turkey can seriously influence the military situation far beyond its borders, it will probably be , uh, somewhat so premature, but certainly near its borders. uh, the turkish army

continues to play a serious role. and uh, power turkey will manifest itself here precisely as a direct, not soft, but precisely a hard, solid force plus. we see a very serious problem, for the same post-soviet space, this is precisely the military presence of turkey’s military assistance, firstly to azerbaijan in the nagorno-karabakh conflict, and secondly , direct, in fact military, direct military support to ukraine in this case too. unfortunately for russia, yes, turkey again demonstrates itself not as an ally. namely, as an adversary militarily. that's why there is consideration given your analytics. you can even compare erdogan's policy, rather with the behavior of bender, who plays 12 spanish games. and where somewhere yes won. yes, at the moment, other participants in the growth are using this position,

because, as we said in past programs , the future, yes, the world order, but multipolarity. and here is one of the participants of the authors of the international politi. will it be able to sit at the table of the great powers, and in fact, the question arose of turkey as an average state has the right to this, what will it depend on? well, firstly, turkey for i have already defined myself a long time ago. it does not consider itself a regional power; it quite considers itself a great power, but the corresponding ambitions. and resources, as i said earlier , are not quite enough for this yet, but turkey is learning to use resources. and their partners. yes, when we talk about, for example, about, but various integration projects that turkey is promoting, well, let's say in the caucasus and central asia a. it latently has in mind the possibility of using resources, including in the security sphere of these states, to achieve

we see this in the example of azerbaijan for some specific goals of our own, but it is quite transparent to ourselves. i'll say this carefully, yes, but what about the immediate? the presence of the turkish military is all over this wide map. well, really, for the time being, it looks more like such an attempt to stake out important points, yes, in just a few minutes , fyodor lukyanov , editor-in-chief of the russia in global affairs magazine, will join our airwaves. we continue the discussion in the program sas is authorized to declare. i am glad to welcome you to our studio already fyodor aleksandrovich lukyanov is present, director of research at the valdai international discussion club, and fyodor aleksandrovich, editor-in-chief of the magazine russia in global affairs hello in the current crisis, erdogan, as a diplomat looks either a modern tolerant, or an

honest bismarck broker, in your opinion, so whether he is sophisticated in diplomacy or others just made so many mistakes that, compared with them, the turkish leader looks so successful against their background. i think, that it is we who, at a historical distance, idealize this veranda and bismarck, and they seem to us to be some kind of hyperboreans, such supermen and super-diplomats. uh, it must have looked a lot different up close, much less avant-garde in that sense too. well, maybe you can compare. uh, later, there centuries or decades, at least, probably, turkey's policy during this period will be looked at as, for example, extremely sophisticated. in general, quite successful diplomacy, but he looks better compared to others, but it’s hard to say here. everyone is good now. so

really, honestly characterize, but erdogan is a man with an amazing instinct, he has a sense of power and a sense of opportunity, and plus he is brave , he can, so to speak, bold, and he is not afraid to bluff where necessary, where it is necessary to use some kind of force. here you are eh? we used the analogy from the stop, bender there, who plays many games, but let me remind you that the session of simultaneous play ended with a historical throw of pieces in the face of a one-eyed chess player. here erdogan erdogan has not yet done this. and what’s more, i don’t think he will, because in unlike ostap bender, he understands that the situation can turn around. otherwise, if one of the chess players. here you will catch up all the same in this sense, he, in my opinion, somewhere he knows the line in general, but he is simply sure that this is a game, there is nothing. thanks a lot. all alexander

is literally another question regarding the fact that russia and turkey have a historical complex in common. now, rather promising relations with europe, both wanted to be in their time. it refused to become part of the periphery and eventually moved into the category of enemies. is a strategic alliance between moscow and ankara possible against this background? although well , perhaps, as informal as it is. at the moment, there is no strategic alliance between russia and china. i think it cannot be here, it can be discussed separately. how strategic is the alliance between russia and china that is, of course, it is an alliance, and it is strategic, but there are nuances. as they say, but as for turkey, this is a completely different phenomenon. uh, it seems to me that here at the heart of relations, in contrast to russia and china where trust is present it

may be tested, but it is still there at the basic level. here, between russia and turkey, between e, even, probably, between putin and erdogan, and trust is not very noticeable, but there is, uh, a good understanding of a partner, an understanding that each other needs is very simply critically important. uh, turkey for russia for turkey now. and this is a more fundamental basis for successful interaction than there, i don’t know value unities. or even a coincidence of interests, that is, the fact that turkey and russia to each other. maybe, roughly speaking, very bad shit. sorry for the language. and not this, but in fact it holds together more than any commonality. uh, interests and goals. i

strongly doubt whether this type of relationship is tegical, but now in general it’s not enough in the strategic world thank you very much for the excellent analytics fedor alexandrovich lukyanov was in touch with us. we continue our program. indeed, we talk a lot about mr. erdokan's wise, cunning position, and not recently in our the program periodically appears heading portraits. so right now i would like to tell our viewers in more detail. who is the turkish leader mr. erdon, please, recep erdogan began his political career while still a student in 1975. he organized a youth movement about the islamic national salvation party. however, the post-war coup in 1980 lost his job due to his poly activities and was forced to join the army. after returning from service, erdogan again aimed on politics from 1983 to 1994, his

political activities were entirely associated with the welfare party, which actively participated in the ruling islamic coalition, then erdogan was able to establish contact with the local residents of istanbul, who in 1994 was elected mayor of the city from 2003 to 2015 erdogan was the prime minister of turkey in whose hands the main power in the country was concentrated, his main achievements were the monetary reform, the successful fight against corruption, the construction of new power plants of social institutions, the strengthening of democracy in country, and in 2013, erdogan lifted the restriction on the wearing of women's headscarves, traditional in islam, hijabs in public places. at the same time, the eu began to focus on the fact that the policy of the new prime minister led to the infringement of freedom of speech in turkey in 2014, erdogan announced his intention to run for the presidency of the country in the first popular elections in turkey, he confidently won them and won almost 52% of the votes

and became the first national president of the country. let's start a new period of social reconciliation today and leave the old discussions in old turkey however, in 2016 the country. expected another shock. a group of military men attempted another coup in istanbul and some other places. real battles unfolded, according to some reports, the rebels acted with the consent of the united states but in the first hours. they failed to kill erdogan. as they say about the danger, he was warned from moscow, and the majority of ordinary citizens opposed the conspirators. in a few days, the rebellion was generally suppressed, and erdogan only strengthened his power by depriving the army of tools to influence our politics. armed forces. after the new laws that we are preparing now, they will only become stronger , the commanders will be subordinate to the minister of defense, it is the minister, and not the ministry, thanks to the actions of erdogan, the export of turkish

products reached its maximum in 2021 and amounted to 221 billion dollars in monetary terms. gdp growth is no less impressive and reached double digits. because of what, erdogan rightfully calls his homeland a rising star of the 21st century, despite this, erdogan's rating began to fall and is not being replaced for the better economic situation. lira local currency exchange rate. rushed down, which became a threat to politicians. as the leader of the country, erdogan plays the role of a key mediator in what remains of the negotiations between russia and ukraine in any case, it is istanbul that has now become a geopolitical offshore meeting point. how, during the cold war , they were held in geneva in the same or in vienna, and alexei what do you think, how much can there be an alternative to the minsk agreements, which

are essentially the lack of the ability to implement they led to the fact that we are now seeing on the territory of ukraine, can we sign the istanbul agreements in the future, because we see mr. erdogan's keen desire to become peacekeepers in this conflict situation, well, about erdogan a peacemaker. you must have been too hasty. uh, as it has been said many times here, turkey acts on the basis of its own interests. here's the thing about conflict. e ukraine and russia, we certainly see the interest of turkey, e, turkey has turned here geopolitically. yes, purely from a geographical point of view. she turned to a country that allows or does not allow ships to enter the black sea through the bosphorus strait, which in this case controls cargo flows, including that notorious grain of food, but, the export of which from ukraine has been talked about for so long and a lot and europe, therefore, we have seen, that the negotiations

that took place in istanbul, they actually, like, uh, according to statements made immediately after these negotiations, were quite successful. but then they were completely disavowed, their results and nothing really happened as a result, that is, to consider in this case, again, turkey, which is a person to some extent interested, since its position on the crimea is quite well known. they do not recognize the annexation of crimea to russia, here is their position on support, including by supplying weapons of drones to ukraine by supporting this crimean tatar mensalis, who acts on the territory of ukraine, this all certainly makes turkey not a neutral territory, but a participant in the events, unlike minsk agreements, where minsk really occupied then. everything is absolute neutral and our president alexander lukashenko sincerely. here, unlike mrs. merkel, who here the revelation began the other day. yes, our president very

sincerely wanted real reconciliation, he did everything to the maximum in order to close this issue to resolve the ukrainian conflict, which is specifically recep taip erdogan from turkey. we do not observe such sincerity, by the way, alexey, with your permission. let 's remind our viewers of how the belarusian-turkish relationship of attention to the screen developed. bilateral diplomatic relations between belarus and turkey were established in 1992 in march 2022 minsk ankara responded to the 30th anniversary of the type of relations a new impetus for cooperation was given by the visit of the president of turkey to belarus in 2016 the negotiations between alexander lukashenko and recep tayyip erdogan in minsk lasted several hours the leaders of the two countries discussed in detail a variety of topics ranging from interstate cooperation to global and regional problems of turkey is a priority partner for us, we highly appreciate

our friendship and are aimed at productive interaction in all directions and let's move our relationship forward as far as we can. and we can do a lot to our advantage in that the economies of belarus and turkey do not compete, but complement each other, turkey is ready to further stimulate the entry of turkish businessmen to the belarusian market to expand investment contacts since then, trade between belarus and turkey has developed rapidly trade turnover for 2021 exceeded $1 billion exports over 360 million dollars, and imports of about 720 million dollars. the volume of turkish investments in the economy of belarus amounted to almost 52 million dollars . more than 120 economic entities not with turkish capital are registered in our country. there is also an agreement between belarus and turkey . on the mutual abolition of visas, belarusians

can continuously stay in turkey for up to 30 days from the moment of entry . cooperation is actively developing through the state administration bodies of the foreign political departments of the countries in october this year, and the presidents of belarus and turkey met at the summit meetings on interaction and confidence building measures. in asia, there are many topics for discussion during the negotiations, recep tayyip erdogan invited alexander lukashenko to turkey to continue the conversation. yes, dmitry, please tell me, here's your opinion. what kind of game can minsk play in the difficult, but extremely necessary at the moment, relations between ankara and moscow, and what role of turkey in general do you see for the foreign policy of belarus? aleksey , this question is for you, and relations between russia and turkey sense - this is a great example of how in reality the many polarities look like, about which so much has been said in recent years, especially russian, e.g., to a specialist. he is not only, but such multipolarity is not at all necessary that you and your partner

agree on everything and you are strategic allies with him. well, and so on and so on. yes, you may have zones in which you, as we from turkey, agreed not to negotiate. ah, but these zones do not prevent us from developing other areas of cooperation. well , for example, economic in the russian economy and turkey, everything is quite transparent and obvious. there is competition there, and countries periodically squeeze the switch to each other. yes, but this is a normal part of the relationship between business entities. i would put it this way , it works at all levels, including interstate ones, and in the field of security. we had a big gap, but after the well-known events in syria, when a russian plane was shot down, both sides realized that in the field of security it is necessary to establish a dialogue more actively. now he has appeared. now it’s not just that russian weapons in turkey, which nato partners do not like very much. here, nevertheless, the dialogue continues in the sphere of humanitarian contacts. yes. say it yourself, say, uh, the head of

nato does not like the russian partner. i like it, well, with this turkey continues those relationships that are beneficial to it. turkey is well aware that and where are the levers of influence of a full-fledged one, including nato, on turkey ? well, in the end, she didn’t play, let’s not talk about how much this coup was in fact, that there are different versions, but nonetheless. she didn't play. yes, and the americans tried to put pressure on their turkish partners. uh, the suspension of the contract for military aviation contracts, there and so on, they got it. well, she didn't quite answer that. yes, let's close your military, which will not be europeans, but turkey was denied supplies. well, for example, rain metal products for military purposes, and the military industry of turkey, well, what did the europeans get, the loss of the contract, turkey went to asia for something like

yes, but returning to the question of belarus , belarus is also a sovereign, normal , predictable player in the field of international relations. and, of course, much closer to russia for natural reasons, and and in this case, this is hmm allied union for real relations between moscow and minsk, the union state between moscow and minsk allows us to exert pressure in very many moments, well, not pressure this wrong word for turkey yes, but speak from a common position. making it clear to ankara and where are the borders to which ankara can reach turkey emphasized - the turks themselves do not like to say so, but that’s for sure, and the system of power is about leadership and it is constantly probing. eh partner. yes. let's put it this way , and turkey will take exactly that much. how much the partner will give them in this sense, so russia and belarus every time they show turkey, it’s profitable there, but it’s not

profitable here, go back. you know, there is another question, what about really belarus and turkey, again, from the point of view of geopolitical e? more simple and pure than the relations between russia and turkey, that is, a direct intersection, for example, of military and geopolitical interests, if we leave out turkey's membership in nato yes, but there were no direct border disputes with belarus and turkey no. and god forbid, and again, a fairly good personal relationship between our president and the turkish e will not arise, they exist and, as it were, everyone sees it. yes, belarus is the only european country invited to the islamic conference, which through this structure has the opportunity too. e. well, if not direct, exerts influence, then promotes its interests in belarus again. with turkey indeed. now, if we compare russia with economic relations now, of course, as a

country more powerful and larger in terms of economy, and turkey, they have a different trade turnover. but belarus, if we look at our product turnover, which was just mentioned here, uh. uh, you know that we do not have with all allies in the eurasian economic union and, especially in the cis , there is more than a billion goods turnover, so much more from kazakhstan other allies. deep below. that is why turkey is indeed, as it was said in the story, our president was voiced as a priority partner. in this case, we again have an interest, e.g. , in trading according to the structure. uh, turkey delivers more to belarus than we do there. to some extent, we depend on it a little. that's but with all this, uh, relationship. these are exactly the kind of business partnerships we have, and of course. uh, russian diplomacy can use belarusian diplomacy to send these

messages of additional channels. quite right. yes about there possible relationship. that is, we are in this case, although, again, our president does not like this word to be an intermediary, right? but just the belarusian mediation mission. it could well be implemented. in this case, i really like it. hmm the phrase tying bridge. here it is. rather, it is more appropriate. i cannot but ask about one of the main issues for our region in international politics for several centuries, the question of the black sea straits. that week the european union led the ceiling of prices for russian oil and the bosphorus immediately formed again a cork and stankers. how important is the control over the straits for the turkish great power. please tell me, it's definitely important. e control over the straits. this is one of the political pillars of the international sense on which e rests. eh, european powerful. let's say so in this case, european power, turkey, but

i draw your attention to the fact that our turkish partners, a and an alternative version are also considering, like the istanbul channel yes, sort of additional more branches, yes. can it be used from the side? please note that turkey, for example, closed the passage for warships, including the nato black sea. now i am profitable for russia, it is also beneficial. imagine how it turns out. i want to pay attention to how they closed, that is, they motivated. they said that we do not want to contribute to the expansion of conflicts. that is, in this case they declared a certain neutral peacekeeping position. let them figure it out themselves. yes. and, of course, we are not can we also discuss the problem areas that we are currently facing, turkey i am asking my colleagues to draw a graph of inflation in turkey for recent years. here we see such a cut over the past 5 years, then a rather critical

situation, but we are talking about the inflation of the love corner of the globe at the moment, and looking at the economic situation in the turkish republic, a number. suspects still call the country an ear of clay with feet of clay, because, unlike the united states, russia, china or even iran, turkey simply does not have money for imperial ambition. is that really how it is? well , why did this inflation come about, right? this is a situation, in fact, a post-covid one of the serious parts of the turkish economy, it has always been a tourism issue and stingy restrictions. this industry has been severely crippled, uh, plus today's conflict. in fact, turkey also has an interest in terminating it, because mutual trade is weakened in this case due to the russian ukrainian conflict. here, respectively, this is one of the weak points, just politics erdogan’s policy in the field, e inflation and it’s

impossible to keep the lira exchange rate, but there’s just a lot here and it doesn’t depend on reasons inside turkey , this is a purely external reason somehow minimize and find a replacement. that is, yes, the lira is growing, but despite all this, despite a certain drop in gross domestic product, turkey today. that's thanks to the built gas pipelines. she is a necessary ally for the same europe because, despite everything anti-russian sanctions from europe gas and oil. they still want to receive turkey , in this case they need it at this expense, turkey is trying to acquire certain dividends. and well, when trading, reselling other people's resources, they seem to be interested in saying something. and what is the moment e do not forget turkey is, e, such a serious outpost on the

path of migration. that is, it is for holding back 3 billion dollars worth of migrants on its territory. many experts argue with europe every year. but the devaluation of the lira extremely difficult financial situation. they will push the turks and these circumstances to bow to the imf and the americans behind this institution. that is, either the same will play continue to play their ability. it's just that foreign trade is dubious cheaper, because , uh, if we superimpose this graph on uh, the level of world inflation in general within the world economic system. we will see that , in principle, they are very synchronous with the turkish financial system and are already too dependent on external factors and those events which happen to leroy, they are basically conditioned. as a colleague correctly said , external factors, and there is a certain

fault. ah, the government, erdogan and turkish experts and political scientists and economists are talking about this, but at some stage turkey decided to move on from the famous one. zero problems with neighbors to politics, no neighbors no problems. but at the same time, she very seriously depended on border trade, on interaction with syria, on interaction with iraq, on interactions with russia, including with russia managed to keep this economic vector. but for other positions. well, not everything is so interesting. hmm, but at the same time, turkey is well aware that its salvation is not to bow to the americans, but to consistently continue the very policy of the hub, about which i spoke of becoming a center through which financial and commodity flows move from east to west with north to south. and vice versa, yes interesting superbly. thank you very much. here is the only thing you know that i would like to be precise. today we are talking about obere, and which one is

coming, which reshapes the usual neurosystem. and that's true strong leaders. and so we remembered, uh, now we remember both the leader of the republic of belarus and the leader of turkey, and it’s important to note how much now without erdogan at all, turkey will be able to return to the role of a large , rather strong, but still, that’s enough of a quiet state, because the upcoming elections, and many are pushing to reason about, and if turkey is without the erdogans as a whole, on the one hand, turkey is very lucky that it had such a strong leader at the right time in the right place, but on the other sides. i think that, uh, in the case of here, even it is not so much about losing, about leaving for some other reason, rather erdogan. then another one will appear, because the system itself will need it, but i do not

predict erdogan's defeat in the next elections . now i would like to. inform our viewers about erdogan's main opponents in the upcoming elections the details on the screen of '52 became widely known after the victory. in the elections of the head of istanbul in march 2019. he beat the candidate the ruling justice and development party binali ildirimov erdogan's closest ally , if you win in istanbul you win in turkey recep erdogan president of turkey screen and maklu can get about 46% of the vote. mansours, 67 years old, became the first opposition candidate to win the ankara mayoral election in the last 25 years, his victory is described as a rise in turkish positions in the municipalities

. yes, indeed , mamoglu creams could gain about 46%, but no longer gain, because in turkey they sentenced the opposition mayor of istanbul to 2 years and seven months on charges of insulting the representatives of the cik dmitry what do you think it is? how to perceive this reprisal by saponents, or is it, uh, such are the rules of the game, well, the tough political struggle in turkey has been going on for really years. and when erdogan was in power. uh, turkey was a fairly stable political entity, but we must not forget that before that turkey was a country of regular military coups regularly, a therefore, uh, today erdogan's position is rather stable, but not undisputed by a significant number of people in the country. well, for the most obvious reasons, first of all, economic ones would like to. and let's see what's

new there, maybe it will work out, but at the same time, one should not think that it will be necessary. for example, pro-western, if turkey is liberal, but the liberal western flank is present, it is certainly present, especially in large cities. ah, but on the general level of turkish voters it is not so significant, so even if, uh, although i i agree with my colleague, it's unlikely that in the next elections, but erdogan will suddenly leave. uh, something very similar will come to power. these will also be conservative forces in conjunction, most likely, with the nationalists, as it is now operating. it should not be forgotten that not only the justice and development party is leading turkey today but. this coalition still has nationalists here about the army. yes, uh dmitry is correct. he says that the army has been a separate institution of the political system for a long time since the days of actually kemal, ataturk turkey, which played the role of a certain balance.

so 2016 violated this system today the army. it ceased to be independent, it was actually subordinated to the government, it has ceased and today, no matter how it poses, in fact, it is already a danger to political power. this is the first second, something that has already been mentioned here in the reports. eh, after all, erdogan is really in many ways. e, came to power, firstly, when he was in opposition. that is, he is the very oppositionist who threw down the then authorities, challenged and won, but his ideas an ideology that is built largely on such a quiet creeping revival of islam, and uh, given the islamization of the region as a whole and it will be supported by international pro- islamic circles, so uh, and this is the territory of deep turkey - this is a territory, just not urban , and rural ones, given that, nevertheless, unlike

belarus, for example, where is 75-80% of the city? the new population and there is only about a fifth of the rural, and in turkey everything is a little bit, on the contrary, so who will win the elections there in many respects it is the small territories that decide small towns, which are mainly focused on agriculture for services, but not large industrial centers there. yes, it’s true, and with regard to russia, even opponents are sure that after putin the country will not abandon a sovereign and strong foreign policy, and in fact turkey is most likely waiting for this. that is. uh, will the star of turkey go down without erdogan sooner, no, rather not, although attempts. uh, our well-known western partners will continue, and they will try to shake the turkish, including the public. we must not forget that a , initially, but erdogan, actually managed to wriggle out

of that very arc of instability. which the americans drew in the middle east during this well-known arab, but it should have been, damn it, not only the arab spring, erdogan managed to get out of this with very cunning methods, but no one removed the task, which is why the americans will try. thank you very much alexei literally 30 seconds. final theme though less still, turkey is really demonstrating another breakthrough today. this is a state with serious potential. globally, probably not, but from the point of view of a regional player. it will remain in this region for a long time, since its geopolitical position and economic demographics contribute to its transformation into a definite center of power. i am grateful, dear guest, for a balanced, extremely interesting discussion, and complete it. i would like to quote from the historical romanov valentin ivanov, who wrote a lot about

empires of the past with lessons for the future. they say that the force of violence was born in twins. or, in their late maturity, the only difference between them was barrenness and violence, but who can say how tomorrow will end, when he has not yet been born, no one thank you, but now he is authorized to declare. erdogan's turkey is implementing a modern version of a multi-vector approach. this region is called little venice. as you understand, due to the weather conditions , we will not be able to start traveling in a dress, but in no case will this interfere with our acquaintance with the city, however, will not become

an obstacle to traveling around belarus hundreds, even thousands of kilometers, a unique architectural structure one of the most famous names of the tower is belaya vezha, although in its history it is white. she never was. by the way, who didn’t know this particular tower is depicted on a 5 ruble bill, national belarusian authenticity items of quality red corner bed and stove approximately this is how a typical belarusian looked and incredibly many positive emotions. fresh-toothed they were born, by the way, in this year. no. travel online with the tv channel belarus 24. tell me just don't hide anything. unless, of course, your

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for his incredible mind and resourcefulness, he was called leonardo da vinci of the 20th century alexander leonidovich chizhevsky at the age of 21 becomes a doctor of historical sciences 24 he is a professor , the path of this talented belarusian-soviet scientist was not easy to get paper, izhevsky considers the lectures to the workers of the linen factory. six months later appears in publishing houses. izhevsky sends copies such books were sent to all the largest libraries in europe and america by all known scientists and the rest itself was the subject of his research and the influence of solar activity on biological historical processes.