tv [untitled] BELARUSTV December 27, 2022 11:00pm-11:21pm MSK
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strongly work formally fits, as in any other we can remember, the same spherical images, even teachers. i'm not talking about the manager's business executives there. take a wick, there are, er, satirical images. on many professions, because it would not be said that all these professions were bankrupt, no, there were excellent lecturers. let's remember who stood at the foundations of the society, academician vavilov the poet. simonov ballerina. ulanova i don't meet anyone here. everyone knows the warmest memories of society, you have already noticed that those who is with you, uh, works under this cap is social science. they are not formally ready to approach. that is, is there enthusiasm, among your colleagues, people are different, there is a person who is a very good professional, but who is in force. i don’t know there, the psychosomatics of my warehouse. he ca n't just go out and light it up. and why should this be done? sometimes there has to be an accessible conversation. there, in the style of a ted
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presentation, you go out in sneakers, there you speak with a microphone, i have five positions for you, they are displayed on the screen. and we, uh, here. uh, even he came up with the example of a president met with alexander dugin. yes, and after that there was such a topic. but we also have our own deep thinkers. on the eve of this telemaran, we held another litoria marathon on the basis of the academy of management and we will continue it in a week , 4 years of lectures took place. this is the topic of the history of historical memory vyacheslav danilovich read it. these are democracies, democracy, modern political systems. andrey savinykh national idea oleg e, romanov and economic problems. valery belsky is all very uh, literate knowledgeable people who been in development for a long time. these are the topics and there was such a serious, profound lecture . we are grateful for this at the academy of management, and we will continue this conversation,
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that is, there may be different approaches. we are now well, not that we are looking for ourselves we offer society. uh, different format of this conversation. it can be, uh, even with elements of humor, and here next year is waiting for you. uh, quite a few surprises it can be the application of musical forms. i can take here you, as leaders, for example, we will go out. here with this format. but even now we can come up with a conversation. we travel with you to any area. here, we were recently in lyakhovichi. let's say. yes. and you, we take your five favorite experts. e you sit down and do a blitz for 10-15 minutes. uh, with each of these experts. i'm sure it will be exciting for the audience. but this is a completely different form, of conveying information, than a person simply arrives and an idiologist comes out and introduces him . uh, a man will come out to the microphone to the podium, read and leave. yes, but no one says that such a form is, but she exclusively. yes, and how often does it happen
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when they ask these questions mmm. well, let's say they rise sharply, or always in a woolly surface, there are questions prepared, because how, well, let's say. so not everything. we are smooth. here in this mass work, when we are received by the district. i am sympathetic to this, these are the organizers. they think, well, it's necessary there, like the audience, will accept it, what if someone is ashamed of the question is always very difficult. by the way, the first question to ask when we see well at least. here i see that there is some hesitation, you need to go to the hall yourself, and within the framework of belarus, we were working on these forms. they came expecting us to tell them something. and maybe there will be a question. and when we go out, let's say, there are representatives of political parties here, what kind of public associations come out here, we work with them for them, it's unexpected, but it's hmm ah but it moves the audience , the audience begins to perceive it yes. so why am i aggravating your questions, there are prepared questions. well, how do we
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we call local ideologists. uh, responsible people write and say, well, you ask a question. yes , he says, we immediately see that it was prepared for a question. there is a very good medicine to start working with, with which a person asks a question with the person who is prepared for this question. this is very interesting. believe me. well respectfully. don't make him look bad in any way. yes , respectfully, working with him. and then the audience understands that you are not blinkered. you didn’t come to perform according to some plan. are you ready for an open discussion about sharp questions. of course there is, but within the framework, belarus is one - this plan was remembered, minsk was remembered. grodno well, i can give other examples , but there was such a wide conversation this year that we focused on the problems of historical memory. well, there were just critical questions and definitive ones. discussions that did not concern the historical memory of the work, for example, housing and communal services, that's all. it sounded. understand when you sit
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and talk. you came for historical memory. it turns out a man says, and we have there that's where the roads are poorly cleaned specifically in our yard. you won't say. you know, you don't ask me not my questions. sit down no you have to react. eh, pay attention to suggest where a person should turn. he came to you, as you were brought to some famous person. yes, we will call it that. yes, and you must keep this brand. well, igor rozolyak and i recently presented our new textbook on the history of belarusian statehood. here he will give a specific example of a student audience has become a student said, well, okay. this is a textbook. isn't this an element of some kind of propaganda said, well, obviously, to eat us in some way. no, we said, but, firstly, not everything is bad in the word of propaganda, because any textbook. what is this propaganda ? aniya is propaganda of a certain state position, what's wrong with that, but we included this student in the dialogue
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so that he does not leave with feeling. it's such a disappointment that people should walk away from meetings like this feeling like, well, it was great. we learned something new we saw interesting person. we talked. this is the most important thing enriched such. i always learn during a meeting with an audience and try to emphasize this in my warehouse, probably, here i am remembering how i studied at school like that. well, a shy person. generally. yes, and this is the case. eh, when, as yesenin wrote, the didya taught you to swim, they took you to the middle of the river and threw you overboard, and you have to somehow get out there. well, according to this principle, we are acting, if you have already chosen this path, then it will be kind correspond. and when i see each such meeting is fraught with some new tests, to which you must somehow react. hmm and then, of course, you grow up and
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like it professionally, then what do you do? say i do a lot of things, therefore, in the knowledge society. yes, i like it. i am very dissatisfied with what has been done from my point of view. during this year , much more could be done, you can look for different excuses. why wasn't this done? but at the same time, uh, i'll say straight out that this period is especially special. e work with amending additions to the constitution from preparation. here, especially on this field, this is already the final stage. uh autumn, when led the society on september 3, december 27 , the constitution was published then and explained began uh, the referendum. e. well, this is one of the happiest periods of my life, because it was very high. dynamics was active communication with people. you have seen many in a new way. uh, you already have familiar experts, and there was
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state support, which is important, are you disingenuous? when you say that you were thrown into the water and you are just learning to swim, because we throw it away as a crawl and in every possible way, it seems to me, you know how i never lie, because i learned to swim myself and swim more or less well only breaststroke. i would call you a producer, a new producer of new lecturers, but we will interrupt for a while, i remind you, we have a telegram channel, say, i'm not silent, subscribe ask questions and suggest guests we are in touch. on the air again , say the program, do not be silent. and today we have guest chairman of the board of belarusian social science, inimitable. vadim vadim frantsevich meeting of the presidents, the recent belarus of russia has become, perhaps, the most important topic in the media space. and uh,
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and not only during the negotiations and after yes, but also before them and constantly uh, hmm there were such stuffing from abroad that putin was going to put pressure on lukashenka that russia would absorb belarus what the west expected from this meeting , which was feared by sure that the presidents , uh, consciously after the announcement of this the meeting was paused in order to provoke our former partners to a similar reaction somewhere. eh, the west is enough. well, the real people who make decisions there seem to be on their own the situation in russian belarusians. for them , this company is deployed, and this was an element of informational propaganda pressure on their own public opinion for escalation and on our russian public opinion. i mean, they're watching. how can society be rocked and these fake stuffing, they work for it, but at the same time, uh, this information company
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was completely won, because the way they just haired with all their statements of expectations did not get anywhere at all. uh, yes, it was probably part of some kind of propaganda strike, but it came all the way. here he passed by, yes, uh, the presidents have completed their task, and it's just a pity to look at him. like these analysts. well, especially those whom you and i know of our fugitives, all these, but we have comments. let's, while they, but quarreled among themselves, but these are so google. it seems to me a quarrel, but no less it's been going on for days now this discussion, they're talking about when putin is crushing how they imagine it. that's technological. here's what it looks like, yes, that is, he arrives. and what threatens to blackmail delirium, you know, they have an atmosphere of communication, those people communicate with each other so often. no, our presidents.
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these two people communicate so often with each other that, well, this is not worth the opera, in principle, a conversation that someone is against someone, yes, that is, they have two messages, two narratives, one crushes the second lukashenka, and deceives putin yes, and then, and then not so two presidents. they clearly understand. what common interests unite us and what common threats do we face, after all, this desire. here they are now declaring that we are supposedly looking for some way to belarus hmm negotiations with the west distancing from russia we do not see. not according to the statements of the president of belarus, nor according to real steps on their part , everything is exactly the same, on the contrary, they are constantly talking about some kind of negotiations. they constantly talk about some chance for belarus in case distancing from russia, listen to whom you want to deceive. well, i want forecasts for them, they are paid and their forecasts. these
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are the ones that never fall into a puddle. as you say, these are not predictions. it is necessary to understand this part. this is not an assumption. it 's part of the psychological pressure. they say e clearly, that is, this is all nonsense. listen, see they also assume that the belarusian officials. diplomats also watch them. they talk about it directly, and they try to influence them. and all of a sudden, something pops up. well, for example, let's take there is such an organization called the belarusian project chat chaos, which regularly issues some kind of opinion polls. i think all sociologists. you know that it's fake, it's fake, but what is this fake for, so that it's all sociology affects real public opinion, affects real focus groups. this is addressed to them, so someone will look, and suddenly think about something. and this, perhaps, cannot be underestimated. they work very competently , another thing is that all these commentators are for the customer just an exchange of material, but
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screwed them up there an expert or a journalist, but then he will somehow explain it, but they know the psychology of the factor working there a week has passed and everything has been forgotten, which means he reappears. let's just remember that exactly all of them in august of the twentieth year. they said the regime is doomed to everything, well, if not in august, then that's for sure in september, not in september, then in october. well, by the new year, well, by the new year, yes, and in the spring the second wave. see the story of the polish selina donation. and where are they now. here is the answer to the question about the level of their analyticity, and talk about relationships. uh, alexander lukashenko and vladimir putin characterize them in these categories, how they do it, they do it in general. well, it doesn't fit that well at all. in general, not from there, well, why should we talk about this putin and lukashenko - this is, uh, the real leaders of their countries, each of them, uh, is heartbroken for his country, for the
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well-being of the people, for the development of the state. we remember putin's famous phrase. why do we need such a world if there is no russia in it and let us remind our viewers of the story of alexander lukashenka in a conversation with the president of kazakhstan yesterday i had an interesting conversation with the president of kazakhstan, he is a former diplomat. a very smart person who knows the sea with his tongue. i always appreciate his advice and even support and he came up to me a lot now talking to fly independence who is right? who's guilty? who attacks whom, he defends a very interesting one. he came up to me and said alexander you know, i remember one of your performances. sorry for the indiscretion. very wise. i say, what is the wisdom? what the i put forward the thesis. he says you said it very simply. did you get to argue? where is ukraine
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, where is russia, where is belarus, there were states such as belarusians, and then you said such a phrase. well, well, well, there was no belarus at some time, but now it is and this must be reckoned with. here is our story. yes september 17th. eh, we have been in the west for a long time. and we often talk about this, that the leaders are entirely puppets, in fact, having a leader, the shadow government is controlled. as a matter of fact, by the western world, which should happen in order to, uh, and real leaders appear in the west, well, firstly, there are different puppets, they have enough talents, and i’m not a supporter of this style of conversation that we have in russia too everything was crushed there. well, they were grinding, they were grinding, but so far they are acting quite successfully for themselves and their own goals and objectives, and
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they actually achieve them, so you can’t help but evaluate them, and at the same time, even in this manipulative democracy, and all political system after world war ii war. this is a manipulative democracy. based primarily on an analysis of that most powerful social explosion that was associated with the october revolution of the seventeenth year, that is, a lot. and what was done in the west was an attempt to prevent their bolsheviks from coming to power, by the way, in this context, the hitler regime. this was also the answer. here they tried. so he realized that guitarism is more expensive for himself. he gets out of control, and he freezes in thought, as a weapon in the fight against the soviet union, as an anti-soviet tool. then they began to use this manipulative democracy, this soft allitarism, they converged a lot of things, and in general quite successfully, but even in this situation even his docked
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germany and germany was a docked country, and in those years vibrant appeared to an even greater degree . in west germany, there is a very interesting chancellor who is also getting out of control, so he is quickly dismissed there, spy scandals happen there, and so on. france's own greatness suddenly, uh, gives birth to a degule. well, not suddenly he has been since those times, but nevertheless, de gaulles, these bright charismatic leader yes, you damn our enemy. well, she appears. memoirs have been preserved and what we see, and she was not subject to these oligarchic groups, therefore, seeing the inevitability, but for her own interests this policy. this is the chirupism of such a tough neo-conservatism, especially in the field of economics, which she pursued in the interests of large corporations, but hardly questions. she went against them a bright character
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or meteran. well, so you call the departed again, but the system was. and what is strong in this system has changed, what has changed in the fifth system? bagels, that since the days of holism and now the macron has appeared now such a time , a bet was certainly made. eh, on such ephemera, and these representatives, by birth, they are not politically correct liberalism. here, and nothing else could be born, but there will certainly be time for new leaders. look, now angela merkel has been extolled almost to some kind of classic. well listen to her statement about the real goals during the minsk negotiations. here is what she days she is a pygmy politically. she was simply chancellor for a long time , because it was profitable, because the germans and german business were afraid of the crisis of the eighth year. and this is a merkil, very technocratic, very angular, which clearly chewed the goals of its
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policy, the real policy of german business. she was beneficial. she did not fulfill any of her promises from that program either. with which she went to the polls, not a single one practically merkel's whole task was to provide. uh, comfortable convenient stagnation of german society all these years, and as a result, uh, scholz were born. here he came. this is mediocrity. it was a product of the era of measurements. well, here it is, but still. here you are protecting these westerners. eh, i'm not defending them. i am trying to explain the trend. we have to look at events as a process, they simply state what is happening in a given period of time. yes, there is macron, yes, and scholz. eh, yes, there are some other friends, but there are kachin's orban, nra-esserdagana. it too well, turkey is not quite europe yes, there is, in the end, i’m still alive while i take luzkony from johnson, what was it like, he was gray and
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uninteresting. well, look he was gone. yes, he was not only a shaggy man who was prone to an extraordinary act, and therefore he was removed, therefore he was against us. no one, but he didn’t suit the representatives of that deep state, too independent trump. take it that this is not an ordinary leader, and there are enough of them among them, no people who do not rule at the same time. do not hear. i say glu state as soon as you go against it, you fly out regardless of what kind of politics you go through, and this is a very serious test. after all. let's see how the career of the same degulia de gaulle ended, the father of the nation, the savior , the liberator of france, the sixty-eighth year of the may events, and a year later he leaves power. yes, and he is lost in these circumstances. and you are the devil, who actually became a victim inside the party outskirts, because she became too independent. she began to spend too independent uh politics.
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