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the program sas is authorized to declare i am the host nadezhda sas i welcome you. let me remind you that this is a program for those who want to better understand the world that is happening and understand how these events are happening. people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and today's release of the program is the final one in the cycle of the program sasa is authorized to announce in 2022 . and the main task. us it analyze and sum up the results of the outgoing year on december 27, 2019. program director of the club shaft. yes, timofey bardachev. he wrote about peaceful 2020 will be the last in a period of uncertainty in world politics. the most important players gradually take their places. ahead, the roaring twenties oh, how he turned out to be right the outgoing year filled the ears of all with the

roar and roar of a new era, the former unipolar system of international relations has sunk into oblivion, and it is being replaced by a much more complex and less stable multipolar order. all this is accompanied huge military-political and socio-economic upheavals and changes. which of them were the most important in 2020, the second year, we will discuss today's program. i am glad to welcome vadim gegen, who is already present in our studio. chairman of the board of the belarusian society of knowledge, candidate of historical sciences, political scientist. hello and nikolai maratovich mezhevich, director of the center for belarusian research at the institute of europe of the wounds. hello. good afternoon, apart from that. i am glad to welcome in our studio there is already a candidate political science diplomat oleg voloshin good evening. good evening, we begin our conversation with a blitz survey, as they said during the

pandemic, we have already reached the peak, or the worst is still ahead of the french, we started with a quote, mr. bardachev. i don’t quite agree with her. this is a direct analogy with the 20th century, the roaring twentieth, and then the formidable thirties came after the roaring twenties, and so they are formidable because they began with a pandemic. the pandemic has led to prominent protests, the destabilization of domestic politics in many countries of the world has caused a new round economic crisis, which no one planned, and everyone expected that there would be a resolution. here is that old crisis that began in the eighth year in the usa and then it went well, just an unprecedented geopolitical confrontation with the hot phase of the war, and we have not reached the bottom in this regard, because there is no agreement on a new world order. and we expect a whole series of similar conflicts, especially since

the ukrainian crisis. it is still far from being resolved, please, we are bringing france together, we are looking for acquaintances, not the first year and almost every every time we meet, we say that, well, the situation is extremely difficult and it will be even more difficult to talk ahead. we started this way back in the last decade, and in this sense, er, i will agree to or, conversely, pick to choose from. we have n't reached it because the current level of confrontation is not at all, uh, the peak. or vice versa, not the bottom at all. but we are now talking about a local conflict, and it is local for the whole world. it is not local, maybe for us it passes at a thousand km e of the border of the republic of belarus and even more in relation to the russian federation, but i assure you, uh, two-thirds of the world. hmm well, they know this conflict in much the same way as well they know that in the middle east there are 70 years of various kinds

of complexity. well, there it is now here, yes, that is, this is not a global conflict, but from our conflict to go into a global one, in principle, even in the last conflict is much easier than in the middle east oleg do you agree with the position of experts and in your opinion the worst is even ahead, but you know, there are still living palaces from them. uh, probably a problem with the translation, but because the russian option does not accurately convey the meaning. i don't know the original term fancis, that is, it was meant in the first place. a very turbulent period. ah, the growth of the culture of economic growth, and so on , indeed, which were observed 100 years ago, and in this sense, uh, then what is this, largely frozen, self-eating unipolar postmodern world. it begins to finally collapse and releases many new creative forces. and you know, the crisis is not without reason in chinese uh,

if i'm not mistaken, languages, this also means opportunity and problem. and that is , it means the same hieroglyphs, that is, in fact, the roaring twenties - this does not mean that it is bad, therefore, in this sense, i just agree with mr. conflict. what did you talk about, dear colleagues. you know how they remember one phrase when you predict the end of the world, you can be right only once, because in fact, we would not analyze the global conflict here. and just nowhere there would be no one, most likely, god, it would be to analyze it. therefore, i think that in many respects, we have passed a certain peak in the sense that the great powers have shown the inadmissibility and application of the unacceptability of those in power. at least. elite nuclear war between them. no matter what the stakes are , at the same time they are high. and this is the key , therefore, everything else, no matter how three, layers. the main thing, you believe, there will be no nuclear war. let's at least this, but a positive point. at the end of the year, for our esteemed viewers , it was really staged in the outgoing year international new relationships were full of interesting and dramatic events. we

will remember each of them in turn and rather an important stage in 2022, which became precisely because of the start of a new cold war between russia and the west, which grew into a rather bright aggressive confrontation. please, let me remind you in more detail, in our viewers of our story. after several decades of attempts by russia to first become part of the political west and then find with it a formula for the peaceful coexistence of relations between moscow and washington fell into a tailspin with a trigger was the beginning of hostilities in ukraine, but all the prerequisites for confrontation were created before that, it was not by chance that the united states and their allies took unprecedented measures in their attempts. undermining the russian economy of its political isolation. such decisions are not prepared in a week by the european union, which for many decades grew rich due to access to cheap russian energy resources and acted at the

forefront of dialogue with it, this time not only obediently supported, the united states well, and became the instigator of a number of the most radical places of arrest of russian assets and funds of the central bank. blocking the property of wealthy russians, banning russian citizens from entering a number of eu countries, ending messages, breaking cooperation in the field of education and culture, attempts to exclude russian writers from university programs. this is not a complete list of what was resorted to in the west, even in relation to the ussr, many of these measures were not applied in russia in turn. this was regarded as a reason to revise the european-centric view of the historical path, simultaneously through the mass flight to the west of the adherents of such a course, russian society has largely cleared itself of conductors of western meanings, culture, journalism and business. all this will have the most far-reaching consequences. in any case, it is clear that the confrontation between russia and the west will not disappear anywhere, because

it is generated by the desire of the former to pursue its sovereign, largely neo-liberal course in domestic foreign policy and the unwillingness of the latter to acknowledge the end of the era of liberal world order. there, vadim, when the end of the region is not visible to a major military-political crisis, a request arises that is associated with the search for appeasement, which will work and, first of all, a request for leaders. today you could name those leaders who contributed, or at least. a thaw is possible in his relations between russia and the west. in fact, leaders are, after all, manifestations of a certain process. here again, he was supported by the debatability of our communication, because rather than the cold war began with a special military operation. it is the result of a long and ongoing chain of events, the five-day war in georgia and then the maidan in ukraine, we saw

what was happening and a number of other aspects between but these important milestones , and a lot of criticism. uh, like the leaders in the west were crushed, it is both justified and not very. well, who could have predicted there in the era of adenaur, who had nothing. because a small leader, but nevertheless, that brand will appear who will hold just such a position, therefore, will certainly appear. er, bright characters in western politics are almost inevitable, but the character appears as a result of some public demand for what we see now, er, the result of negative selection over several generations. this is the result of such a notorious political correctness, which became the ideological accompaniment of the entire era of the unipolar world. in fact , political correctness, the notorious - it was part of such a soft totalitarianism implanted by the united states themselves, and

this is a reflection of the insiders of the united states this neoliberal ideology gradually with the growing crisis. uh, this ideology will certainly appear and new leaders. we see during construction. say what is happening in eastern europe, we may like someone or not, but the same orban. and kaczynski is not a bright leader in poland . yes, he is our enemy, but nonetheless. so i think that everything is not as bad for europe as we sometimes talk about it, but oleg, we can’t talk to me about ukraine and i think you remember like no one else. what moods prevailed public space by the end of 2021, ukraine was anything and a pawn, a bargaining chip on the stage, but not a self-sufficient subject of international relations. whose fate was determined by others for him and without him, and then many were convinced that if it goes on like this, then in the new year the stage has the risk of turning into a theater of military operations,

and so it came out. and you know, i want to recall the words of a very famous russian politician. nobody wanted to listen to us. so listen, now here you are, as a ukrainian no one wanted to listen to politics either, but for you to answer now, was it in general. in 2022, a certain backlash is a chance for peace in relations between ukraine and russia, but i think that the entire analysis of the events of the previous ones, and the beginning of hostilities, is literally. there, the first days will merit the deepest close analysis of the study by historians and theorists of the history of international relations, as indeed one of such key crises of our time. and how, let's say, the same caribbean crisis is sorted out in detail there minute-by-minute schedule, who called who, who came to whom, but from the fact that i know and see very much as you can say at a first approximation, and there was a chance for a peaceful settlement. even

after the first tanks, roughly speaking, crossed the border and the first missiles flew, and such a calculation was obviously in moscow , but it’s another matter that in other capitals there was a different calculation, and let’s say this to me the day before. well, if i'm not mistaken. cobra last year, when many in kiev, to put it mildly, were skeptical about the prospect that everything would end up with just such a conflict, and not just a full-scale aggravation in the donbass, but the great war, but one person from, let's say, close circles. uh, well, let's say about the frank westerners who have serious contacts in the american society, developing in society, he directly said that all decisions about this war were largely made and made by neuroscience in kiev and not even in moscow, but made in the west, and how it literally there. i remember the quote was such a biden senate, roughly speaking, there, uh, will take steps that, let's say, will take putin weakly, that is this

conflict was so beneficial for certain circles in the united states and in the west in general that in any case, uh, it could not be avoided. i mean, they didn't push it here anyway, if. well, this is again a long long conversation, but the key is the economy. here i am in literally another few seconds. i was talking to one the other day. eh, let's say. in general, not with a single russian politician, and my interlocutor cannot be attributed to conspiracy theorists. yes, in general, i don’t suffer from conspiracy theories, but arose. uh, surname rothschilds, yes, the famous legendary the family in the financiers of the bankers in the context, just here are the interests in the same britain london and yes, and the west as a whole in this conflict, but the economic changes that are taking place in the world now in connection with the war in ukraine they deserve the most attention. almost by and large. i remember many people said no, went into a crisis, overproduction of the economy. if it stagnates, it can only be restarted by a new big war, since a nuclear war is fortunately impossible, that is, the third world war is impossible to include the second first, which in

greatly spurred the economic growth of their years. also, the second world war was the way out of the recession. that is, now they have hurt such a war, it may be more if the stars are lit. so, someone needs it, if hot spots appear on the map, and the world, then someone needs it too. i know, here is mykola maracha, do you remember enough was, uh, giving hope in march 2022, when they talked about a possible truce, signing a truce between ukraine and russia, but then the main insurgents, the protesting side, was precisely in great britain, and now 2022 was already too bright, because the change in the elite of leaders was happening very rapidly. and so everyone was convinced that it was the prime minister, who at that moment was, and the engine of all this locomotive of the military , was soon replaced by passion. now it’s already rishi, but in fact the

uk’s policy regarding the current one has not changed, because the head of mi-6 has remained the same and many others, right? if you change the heads of the intelligence community at the same pace as prime ministers, then this happens too. yes, but still rare. i mean , everyone who can walk will quit from there. yes, and they will leave, in fact, of course, at the heart of the current political conflict is the military-political one. uh, lies the need to fold. yes, this is how it happens. people play cards and no one wants to throw them away. well, so to speak, and admit defeat, but if the lights go out. uh, the house falls on its side. yes, then for everyone there is a convenient opportunity to go out somewhere in a new place, sit down to re-deal e-cards and start the game again under ukrainian crisis. all parties and even neutral countries write down all their problems and all tasks. and to be honest, yes, we, too, because

, but just come, uh, to our liberal wing in power and say that you guys are bad. why are we bad? yes, but prove yes, prove that gaidar's reforms or privatization is criminal. these are the attempts that have been made. well, there is a not very convincing result. well, not very convincing to someone, not to someone. and here the whole position is all opponents of the authorities automatically, but visible through the gaps. but say, here is the recent visit of mr. zelensky to the white house and biden's statement that ukraine is ready. how can the world with russia perceive this in fact and the beginning of the war. uh, a special military operation. it was a trap that was correctly characterized here, and now oleg spoke about it. uh, the americans and the british really wanted to draw russia into this trap. by the way, i remember well the reaction, both in ukrainian society and in russia, at the stage of

negotiations in belarus. then in istanbul it was not positive. and now uh, here it is the case letter is already biden's statement. eh, very interesting. they think they have sufficiently weakened russia. yes, they proclaim the ultimate goal. yes ultras, they always do that. these are the collapses of russia, but they themselves say they do not see the technology of this collapse. uh, so their task is to force russia to make some concessions to keep it. well, maybe there, crimea or donbass. well, at the same time, force russia to recognize that it was not ready to recognize this membership of ukraine in nato before, and so on and so on. thus, lead to the isolation of further russia, lower its international status , disperse it with propaganda resources, that this is a defeat, tear russia away from china and switch. here on this region of the indo-pacific, what they actually declare, we see this plan and if russia goes. i hope this doesn't happen. it will be a defeat. and by the way, you remembered

china and i think it is extremely important now to remind our viewers that in 2022 the transition of china and the united states was very clearly felt to the open rivalry of the details in our plot. in addition to the conflict between the west and russia, the relationship between the united states and china also falls under the definition of the new cold war, in official us strategic documents, china is seen as a long-term strategic competitor, and in the london declaration of nato of 2019 there was the first mention of problems related to the influence and international politics of china. based on this, the united states is pursuing several goals. washington is seeking to prevent further expansion of chinese influence and in return establish your hygiene important role. in this confrontation, the visit of the speaker of the house of representatives of the united states, nancy pelosiped, played. taiwan literally meant support for the independence of the island and encroachment on

integrity. china's response from beijing followed immediately according to xi jinping. china will continue to seek peaceful reunification with the islands. at the same time, beijing does not intend to announce the renunciation of the ability to use force against taiwan and those who will comprehend us the sovereignty of the country. in addition, at the meeting with dmitry medvedev, the chinese leader noted that china is ready to move closer to russia for the sake of more just global governance, according to political scientists, the strategic rivalry between the united states and china could develop into a multi-level global conflict, where the greatest danger will lie in the economic and military spheres. and indeed, the outgoing year was full of unpleasant surprises that deprived of hope and undermined the faith in the imminent exit of mankind from the crisis of the systemic crisis. i would say so, and now with a light hand over everything. it for several years now, it has been

customary to call such surprises, as in one franz. please tell me, but nikolaevich nancy pelosi is a black swan for the people's republic of china. do you think i would say so for the black swan? uh, well, it's not the same scale, even taking into account m-m formal positioning in the us political hierarchy, this is not at all a swan. how many such a gray hummingbird is, well , the chinese certainly heard the warning and drew conclusions from this, including those related to cooperation with russia americans is absolutely obvious, but to tear us away from the chinese. yes, the chinese are from us. our chinese friends rightly say that when world war ii began in your country, the japanese were already committing atrocities on our territory with might and main. and this is true for them war. started much earlier. now it turns out, on the contrary, it starts with us, and

china has time, we don’t know how much it is for a year and a half, but it’s obvious that if they sell us what we see to you as a compromise, they left voronezh left krasnodar. maybe even crimea can oh, hardly no, they will bargain from afar, if not from yekaterinburg with sperm, then at least from voronezh he brought it down. there are also other names for smolendia. the biarmie is absolutely clear and understandable that they will offer us, we will refuse it. china this time will be taken advantage of and used now for uh, providing a guarantee inside nesta. uh, the military, especially the navy, is growing. i would say at a fabulous pace . and it seems that the americans made a strategic mistake, but they will understand. they are not now, and a little later, and most importantly, that the

last visit, no matter how it was commented on , was a state visit, medvedev's or a party visit. yes, you know, we here in the east know how to take off and put on these hats. and it is important that he was important, that he was important, that sounded out of the mind of mr. fini. and so, they, how would you characterize the relationship between russia and china, are they allies or are they strategic partners? well, of course, while it is not allies, but see here an important point, how do americans perceive this confrontation is a conflict with russia - it's more like, uh, they look like an annoying atavism all the time it's a legacy of some soviet imperial ambitions, but they see it as peripheral. a conflict in which russia needs to quickly defeat in order to concentrate on its main enemy. they openly say this, china is the main enemy, but we do not need to be offended by this, that the enemy underestimates you. you just need to use it, because the americans really allowed a huge

a strategic mistake. it will go into textbooks. they simultaneously launched a fight with russia and the united states, and this was done both by one administration and the other, with regard to medvedev's visit, but, er, nikoline. i did not know that st. petersburg is in our east. it seemed to me that you are, so to speak, closer to europe. that is the very window that peter i cut through. but the signals are really important. especially in chinese politics. look, yes, medvedev is a former president. yes, this is a former prime minister, but he is now a deputy chairman security council of russia and we are meeting with him. and if you look at the schedule of meetings with depin, he does not meet with everyone. even far from being with all the heads of state governments, the fact that these negotiations took place is that they were so lengthy. there were so many public statements in such an atmosphere. this confirms the conclusion that american analysts made and gave it to the public sphere that china

has finally decided and will bet on russia, i don’t know how much china believes, but i think, hopes for the victory of russia but definitely does not believe in her defeat. and this is strategically important. how to formalize it, as a partnership or an alliance. this is the second question at the moment , the very choice of china is important, a nikolaevich does the russian political class have fears that the next generation of chinese leaders, being blinded by their power, will begin to show certain features of a global hegemon, or is this not a goal for the next decade at all, the chinese people republic theoretically, it can be assumed that the chinese try to play, uh, the american game, uh, there is one superpower, and all the rest are somewhere two floors

below, but, firstly, the chinese are perfectly able to learn lessons not only from one's own, but also from someone else's history, and i think that in a generation another not earlier. we will see serious american losses and therefore, theoretically , somewhere in 3-4 generations, china may have some kind of temptation. but in this case, why should china spoil relations with russia russia, to a certain extent, covers china , yes. well, let's go back to today . uh, i don’t know, in moscow the president’s coup was arrested. and zelensky is in the kremlin, blagoveshchensk, which, as you know, is located on the amur river, is renamed lvov amursky, and i will allow myself to ask such questions. and why is it our chinese friends? that's why they need it, so that ki-kievskaya washington missiles were, uh, in close proximity, actually right on the chinese border. why is it? yeah, you

know, well, first of all, i don't think it's three or four generations. uh, okay, i remember. that's when there were still such minsk dialogues. yes , this is the era of multi-vector. uh, those were western analysts who, well, china is not going to expand its activity somewhere, not the bloc status is the task of two centuries, the concentration on internal development. we said that the next generation is just the thirteenth was 12-13 , when it was a day, so they will have new geopolitical tasks. we see, the way it is, so i think, i am convinced that china is preparing for global leadership and almost i’m ready for this, uh, another question is how russia should feel when i think that china will offer russia the formula that the americans offered to beijing and beijing then refused it . junior leader in global. uh, like the americans will be in charge, and china will have its own sphere. i think that china

is preparing again, we need to take a sober look at this. this is not bad, not good. china is preparing for such a formula of interaction with russia . the only thing is that they will not formulate. as business americans know. uh, chewing gum, maybe. so let's okay. we'll be in our corporation. i am a senior partner. you are younger, they will say that our partnership is like tigers and a bear in the taiga, you won’t understand who is older, but if you have a tiger, you will be a bear, we will share our taiga. i think it will be to tell them, but something like this, yes, and you know what else i would like to clarify with oleg europe actually fell into a trap today, from which they themselves do not yet know how to get out. and if the exit, in principle, absolutely solidarity with the united states of america on the russian question pref. subordination to an older and more powerful guarantor partner, for which china is today a strategic rival for the coming decades, although

europe is a threat. he does not carry any and does not throw a challenge, and europe could build absolutely friendly mutually beneficial relations, because today it is extremely beneficial for her, but why on earth should an older brother allow a younger brother to help someone who is in such a confrontation with him alette, what do you think about this? well , you know, i'm in my view of europe in principle, but a lot is said about this. recently is the main victim, er, of the ongoing economic crisis especially when the leading automakers. germany is transferring its production, the united states says a lot, in principle, the united states is active in the current conditions, and it parasitizes just its european partners. uh, pulling the industry back to itself a significant degree of investment and for this american financial policy and

monetary policy are targeted, and the fed interest rate game, and so on, and in this situation, we see that the united states is actually reindustrializing, that is, renewing its industrial base. now, the efforts from belarus to preserve their industrial base, but justified themselves entirely. that is, as a show- although until recently we all talked about the fact that come on, there, let's bet to find. and there is also the service sector and so on financial services. hey, who needs this there is no industrial well in general digital n in the conditions of a serious uh military confrontation, and then there will be all the same, uh, technological rivalry and all the same humanity. i'm sure he will be engaged in serious space. all the same, humanity will deal with its markets and so on. in this sense, industry plays a key role. so europe ceases to be completely already, uh, the industrial innovation base that it was turning into such really in the application, as for, actually, about

china but here i just disagree with you a little about the challenge. here i just seem to be with russia and not a fang. it seems that he is believed with russia, europe could have harmonious synergy. it was, in general, european prosperity was based largely on cheap russian energy and access to the chinese market, but russia is not even though, right now more. lira conservative values, since europe has formulated anti-christian ultra-liberal values ​​there in russia become a counterbalance, but in principle, it is china that is the ideological alternative to chinese society, the chinese system of relations between the individual and the state. well, i'll be honest. with all our great respect for the chinese family, the republic, even for me, is something completely different. thank you very much oleg for participating in the program after a short pause , timofey bardacheva will join our broadcast. stay with us. all the most interesting is ahead. the sas program is authorized

to declare it is in it that we sum up the results of the year 2022. what do we remember about it and what forecasts will be made from the lips of our experts regarding the year 2023 , timofey bardachok is joining our discussion in the program director of the club, valdai timofey, but today we couldn’t help but remember you and couldn’t help but remember the wonderful term that you used. uh, regarding the roaring twenties. after all, this is exactly what happens. again, such stories move in a spiral. please tell me, uh, your colleague fyodor lukyanov wrote the other day that the united states of america finally successfully instrumentalized ukraine and received in her person an unsinkable

an aircraft carrier that poses a chronic systemic threat to russia. the appropriate and strengthened did not begin yesterday, and the guests in the studio and i focused on this, and from the degree of infiltration of agents of american influence into the ukrainian government to the preparation of all, there are a lot of signs of what the course is. here it was carried out for a long time and quite consistently. and in this sense, from the point of view of interest in the russian federation , the beginning of a special operation is a miss. rather, it started too late. do you agree with this well in russia, of course, there is such a point of view and very many authoritative experts, close states began, i would still disagree with my friend fedorov ocean

about an unsinkable aircraft carrier, in principle any. it is solely in the ability of those who need to sink it to do it in one way or another or there are no countries that cannot be subjected to sufficiently consistent force to change their behavior or cease to exist, and we understand that now to unfortunately with regard to ukraine and the question is exactly this way. it is difficult to say that the americans are pleased to instrumentalize and minimize something, because you know, history, as nikolay nurovichavsky said. history is not the sidewalk of nevsky prospekt, which goes straight and according to a preconceived plan. history is a rather chaotic process to plan something for the long term here and implement it, but it is rather

difficult to understand that those dramatic events that took place. in ukraine since in the mid-2000s, they were associated with a huge number of internal factors, including the mistakes of the ukrainian leadership, and not exclusively the product intentions of the americans, the americans know how to use this. well, in russia, too, sometimes he knows how to use a lot of things. russia took advantage of the situation in crimea really is, but the american strategy for years ahead, or as they fear in kiev, the american step is only set to teach moscow a lesson, but not weaken its strength and not completely repel it in the light of the pain of a

serious chinese threat, which we just spoke about. well, what are you, well, are they some kind of gods, in order to get someone or not to get, and how will it turn out, they will act like that and ramming against russia in a sense? yes although, of course, it was rather weak before, in fact, and in the second world war, the soviet union fought on the us page and here it was a strong strong ally. and now, as they say in russia, yes, it’s already rather weak somehow, if they only have ukraine. and what, we can be opposed, so i still would not demonize american ladies like that. here they are, as it were, they will give us. yes, they themselves will fight, but this fight on our part is not with some kind of fight with the universal angle, which itself always decides what to do to circumstances. and if

the russian army, there the russian armed men demonstrate convincing pains in ukraine americans will accept it. they fled from afghanistan although the president of the united states and they traveled to washington. here, they were also well received there, and then they left and fled, but let's be serious, on february 24, 23-24, the americans were ready to visit ukraine to flee the embassy. well, we didn't succeed. and so that it depends only on us, but not alone. yes, by the way, it can be said and noted that the current administration of the biden administration is taking the embassy away to other regions, burning documentation, a lot of traces of their personal corruption of using ukraine as an offshore for the united states of america was able to clean up all its bad deeds. if i may say so. yes, they think that these are not good kids, who, in general, have already been proven by the fact of the well-known case

of publication in the american press. somewhere, of course. censorship, as in ukraine no, it hasn't been and probably won't be, because this is not a unique phenomenon. this is all a fact, but something else is important, and the united states of america is really ready to throw this suitcase away when the handle finally falls off, which is bad was very good to do. sorry from estonia from latvia from lithuania or even three together something like that is impossible poles are very rational. if they are offered western ukraine with pleasure, of course, money. yes , they will. and if he says, guys, well, you need to put 300 thousand for lvov, you need it, they will say. no, we don't need it. and here they really found people and found leaders for them who are frankly brilliant in pr. but pr is part of the functions of the president, and he has now

brought ukraine to such a situation that with russia and not only, in fact, it will be impossible to negotiate with russia by a significant part of the world community, in principle, but it may well be that with the americans in 2 years, 3 years, 5 years. we will return to cold-cool relations and we will have some kind of business and some kind of politics and we will occasionally step on each other's heels, but it will be more or less normal life in the style of the cold war. but the kyiv regime. with this, what kind of forecasts do you have in general, any are based on three most important factors with my point of view of the near future, and the entire foreign political strategy of russia depends on them, these factors are simple. will the russian federation be able to liberate the entire donbass and the first factor of the second? will she be able to short? hands back, kherson and the third

factor. whether the russian army will be able to enter zaporozhye that is, in fact, whether russia will be able to ensure the main provisions of its constitution based on the referendums that were held in september of this year, everything depends on this, if it manages this one prediction, if it fails, this is completely a different forecast for the development of the situation, and it seems to me that we have touched on zelensky. in general, we need ukraine a lot, we analyze a lot and know the details there. especially our americanists of our washington lobby policy. which bakery is on which side street off fifth avenue, and what exactly smokes in that room of the entire ministerial abbey. they are in another, this is all fine. one question, we have long painted ukraine as zelensky’s fail state, as a clown of oligarchs, as corrupt ukrainian creatures. but this state, nevertheless, is worth it and yes to you western aid is fighting against us in the senate well , this is ukraine and these guys here, they go there and

die. what is the mystery of this, what happened to ukraine in 8 years, if we can understand and analyze seriously, seriously , and then this will be the key to many further successes of the russian federation. do you have? thoughts about what is the mystery about you know, uh, the countries of south asia there is such a horror - such a terrible phenomenon as children's begging, when children are stolen from their parents, their arms are cut off, and after that, they are forced to beg in the street. the child causes pity a lot, well, tears, and thus these sadists, they earn money. it seems to me that ukraine , as a result of its internal development over the past 30 years, has found itself in a position where it does not have the independence of such a crippled child. he will suffer

various different troubles, but unfortunately, there is only one way out of this situation. yes, this change of mind is reality, not what is happening in ukraine is a struggle for wash. this is a struggle for people to understand that the path chosen by this country is death. here, i can’t help but ask you the last extremely, important question that interests me. today, the ukrainians turned out to be the second largest people in russia, as it was in the russian empire and the soviet union, we are talking about at least ten million, and that’s how much modern realities these people can again become with the authors of the russian project, and leaving its narrow and dangerous framework, which sounds as follows image of russia for russians. it seems to me that it is already becoming for us, this private is now perceived as external unusual, but from

my point of view it is very good. this is definitely wrong. i would be present by people who have a ukrainian state of birth in russia, education in the most regions, and all sorts of all kinds of means, because this is really a reintegration from the road with a healthy part of ukrainian society. thank you very much for your participation. and, of course, i would like to complete our program with a positive development of integration processes in within the framework of the union state russia belarus , see our story in more detail. belarus and russia in minsk summed up the results of the integration year, noted the successful implementation of 28 programs and in general. agreed on all issues, the chief economy. russia is the main trading partner of belarus now, when some of our western partners are really leaving our market for belarus , windows of opportunity are opening up for belarusian manufacturers and

belarusian goods are going very well on the russian market, i emphasize. she's country now the closest allies and strategic partners of cooperation between which develops on the principles of mutual respect and taking into account the interests of each other from the point of view of the economy, perhaps the most important issue is the prices for gas and oil, as alexander lukashenko said belarus is satisfied with the results of discussions with russia on the creation of a single gas market and pricing conditions for energy carriers for the next 3 years, all agreements have been reached, so the issue has been reached, but so far we have fixed no details our price, it is favorable. uh, length with russia helps a lot. in this plan. the issue of security was not left without attention. alexander lukashenko thanked vladimir putin for helping our country. russia has supplied belarus with the s-400 complex and the iskander complex, which are already on combat duty. both leaders. also agreed

to continue local military exercises. after all , the tension along the perimeter of the border of the union state, primarily in the west, causes concern. we just made a very serious statement with the president of russia security defense. let's be frank. we are able to defend our independence and sovereignty alone without russia . and in difficult times, he did not refuse. today, twice putin arrived, here someone is frightened. look after our statements here. but he went forward, as a native, as a person close to belarus, 2022 became a period of challenges for the two countries, belarus-russia, were subjected to serious, sanctions and political pressure from the west however, this only brought minsk and moscow closer and as alexander lukashenko emphasized if someone wants to break off relations today and

drive klin into relations between belarus and russia and they won’t succeed anyway. they will only get stronger, and the base today, in fact, today, together with the president and our colleagues, we have created a base for the future breakthrough, forward. we will make it. here, not in vain, at the beginning of the program, i said that all hope is for moral authorities capable of drawing attention to their position. so i think for the republic and belarus, alexander lukashenko is such, and how, in general , vladimir will be characterized, that event, which happened in general for foreign policy and correctly, of course, the minsk meeting. eh, it's historical. from what point of view, firstly, do you know how presidents are able to keep the intrigue. we are in a hybrid war. he is a very tough opponent. uh, strategic initiative is important here. you capture when you provide surprise action here

for the enemy. look what they did, we said we would meet the day before, where shoigu came a couple of weeks before and it started, but they just sat in a puddle of hair. many western politicians almost all comments. it started from the fact that russia would capture belarus, a new attack on ukraine would begin, in order for this meeting to mean nothing at all. although, in general, this shows the level of their expertise, that this is no expertise that ordinary propaganda does not give out into the public space, which aims to influence its public opinion and put pressure on us. with these stuffing, while they are trying to put pressure on our public opinion , the presidents have beaten everyone in this regard. e. i i think that nikolai is a joy for us. it was obvious that it was the economic agenda that would be in the first place, what needs to be analyzed, you need to watch real processes, the current models of the union state are absolutely unique, this is not the european union, and this is not the former soviet

union this is a new matrix well, i will not argue with the president. i am the base. this set up is not now walking this meeting. it was created before. but what happened, what is another major mistake. and another defeat of the west in the twentieth year, the goal of those who stood behind an attempt to coup d'etat in belarus was to tear belarus away from and moreover, how to tear it off by drawing russia into the anti-belarusian coalition, because they wanted to do this, and liberal agents within russia itself did not work out. and this only accelerated our integration in the twenty- second year, a special military operation did not lead to disunity, but to a level of unity that was not there before. and we are the victory, so we somehow don’t talk very much lately and don’t like to focus attention. well, in order not to jinx the current level of development of the union on our victories the states of russia and belarus is a real victory of the two peoples, of course, in this regard, the merit of both alexander lukashenko and vladimir

putin is difficult in front of whatever one may say, but still, uh, with all the ideological differences between the western western establishment of the belarusian. it remains in the cultural and mental, but rather in terms of a purely european country, such russia, too. with everything, i’m literally a factor to force moscow too ah, despite the presence, a and yet, the fantasy of certain eurasians who have taken e, to look for a new russian idea in asia, but still to turn around to look, i would not say that these are the fantasies of the eurasians. it has the right to life, but also belarusians. after all, you know western propaganda, how it tries to make that belarusians are europeans. russians, it seems, there is nothing like it, and we and ukrainians are part of the same civilization. eastern slavic - this is described by all scientists, and toyn, bischpengler huntington danilevsky by anyone who analyzed the civilizational approach not

by these propagandists who declare, but by deep thinkers, uh, who understood what they speak and understand, but all the same, belarusians and russians remain europeans and russia - this is not asia and in europe, but in europe and asia, we should not leave europe, we should give examples in europe simple. example. that's when they say yes, well, what? many of our viewers will be able to name, let alone quote classical chinese uh novels, no one. i think, well, rare people. yes, but hugo deakins is known, everyone knows the chinese language very well, children and still it is worth sending. well, this is just one example that shows our civilizational essence. we are europe but we are different, europe thank you yes, it was a pity that this beautiful picture with two presidents was removed. i replaced it with a symbolic row of two plasmas. i have exclusive information. yesterday in warsaw, a well-known house, where the

russians come to visit the belarusian position to cry together. yes, they called a brigade of plumbers reinforced. yes, because when they saw this photo, they blurred the ceilings between floors and muddy streams flowed into the vistula. yes, but because, well, in my opinion, everything is said, here. this photo on the background of the christmas tree even what the presidents did not say in the public space was said, but they can behave like this and so on. here are just allies, while there is one important thing. the republic of belarus has been an independent state for more than 30 years, building a union state. i have to say it again to everyone. this is not a process of merging states into one, harmonizing interests and building policies on a whole range of issues that are of fundamental

interest, so it is very wise not to jump ahead into a single currency. let's get it so that our currencies are better and there are more goods, there are more salaries. how will it be nominated? i think it's not so important. thanks to everyone who participated in today's discussion. these were the results of the year 2020, the second today's program sounded and forecasts for the coming year. i ask my colleagues to display on the screen the magnificent photo that i managed to take, and the other day i took it. this is how it was decorated, the christmas tree in gum in a gloom quite right with globes. and this is the signature. she touched me very carefully . dear and beloved viewers. i am happy new year to each of you. let's take care of our fragile world together in 2023, and by tradition, sas is authorized

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