tv [untitled] BELARUSTV December 29, 2022 1:05pm-2:06pm MSK
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almost 140,000 cases of illegal entry into the eu have been registered. but the route through belarus is the smallest in november, only 334 cases. and despite this, fences, barbed wire, for some reason, were installed precisely on the border with belarus and refugees is no solution to the problem. winter storm continues to rage in canada the communication between the largest cities is more than a million people without electricity, and the town of ford airy has completely turned into an ice kingdom. the houses of local residents are completely de-energized and covered with ice . they warn that about 15,000 people may spend the coming weekend without electricity.
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at 15:00 there is already new information on our air. all the best. socio-political talk show in essence today we will talk about the unions that our country has entered, which it plans to join, and what we need from them wait for all this we will discuss against the backdrop of the presence of our president in st. petersburg at an informal santa of the cis, my colleague. alena surova works there today. we are waiting for a
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live broadcast. well, if you want to join the discussion of our program. this is where the qr code comes in. subscribe and you can send messages with you kirill kozakov we are starting. almost all the time of the existence of the soviet union, the word union was associated with the end of the month of december, because on december 30, 1922 , an agreement was signed on the creation of the ussr on we'll talk about this a bit later. now we are talking about what we have this year. well, maybe from our point of view, from a journalistic point of view, this is not an experienced activity. as a matter of fact, the presence of the belarusian authorities in the sco. uh, revitalization of work in the cis revitalization of work in the union state, which is probably connected primarily with sanctions. this and military relations, allied relations with russia, which, well, in principle, takes place against the backdrop of the escalation that is observed on the polish lithuanian side on the ukrainian side. at
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in general, all this suggests that belarus is becoming a part of the geopolitical eastern european piece of land, where we really play a very large role. i am alone today. because, uh , an informal summit of the cis heads of state is taking place in st. petersburg, and they are taking part there, she is president alexander grigoryevich lukashenko and works there, and my colleague alena surova, we, uh, literally contacted her a few minutes before the program in order to discuss how this garden went, what are your alena impressions? well, let's probably give you some time, because i understand that you need to prepare in order to make an evening story, so what happened. well, let's say, this is the entourage, because what i think is in telegram channels. first of all, it is an impression. first of all, these are the remarks of alexander lukashenko that the next year will be happy and successful, what did you hear there? well, actually, first of all,
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hello everyone, of course, i am very glad to see you all. that is, here, and remotely. and i want to note that this informal one, in fact, did not really become rich in official statements. well, as they say in the classics of the genre, but in fact the heads of state climbed the steps of the medical library, almost all in silence, they didn’t even look away. in some very calm and focused mood, although it seems that the agenda should still be with a festive one, the only president who spoke with the media was expected to be alexander my colleagues asked lukashenka such questions, well, moody, or something, he really spoke about his expectations for this year, but intentionally or not, e to the question of what his mood is, and answered hmm that the average, of course, added that
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there is something to strive for, but he is in fact. it seems to me that there is something more here, because , nevertheless, a meeting. although informal, the agenda is very serious and there are many issues that need to be discussed. and taking this opportunity, of course, i would like our experts to ask a question that you know is a collective one from all my colleagues, both russian and from other commonwealth countries, so many people ask, but the question is, mm, if the heads of state are really in close contact. if there is no problem at any time to assemble a formal official website, then why do we need unofficial ones, especially since this is the second one in a year, the previous one was in st. petersburg just a couple of months ago peter what do you say, well, firstly, let's remind our viewers, that there are different formats. there are official ones. you
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where the agenda is clearly prepared, the delegation is present, specific issues are discussed, specific decisions are made. if we are talking about an informal summit, then this is, first of all, consultations of the leaders of states on some issues, summing up the results , informal communication in many respects, which is why there were no statements about any official press conferences. this is a certain exchange of opinions and sentiments between here, if a specific case between the main states of the commonwealth of independent states. here. eh, in what? e fundamental difference and the fact that every year at the end of each year we traditionally host such an informal cis summit, which speaks of the mutual interest of the heads of state, on the one hand, and on the other hand, that despite various kinds of criticism, the commonwealth exists and
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implements specific programs that benefit all countries. song that's what you think about total thank you for really very limited time, so i'll probably bow out and go get ready for my evening broadcast. uh, i'll prepare the material be sure to watch and listen. good luck, we are waiting for your interesting report right after our program. but we will continue to sing. so i started asking a question after all, following the results of this summit, you should not wait for the signing of documents, right, because, well, no matter how they should be, in theory, because only at official events a document is being prepared, accepted and signed here, just a protocol is not required and such formats and actions are not provided. but are such summits resolved economic issues? or is this also well, some kind of humanitarian, social agenda, when you arrive without papers,
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it is possible that it is impossible to compare some numbers there to see fewer assistants. i would like to say all possible help to peter first , too. the position on the status of the need here are the informal summits, uh, against the backdrop of the background picture showed 54, so to speak, all the leaders of the states, yes, which are accepted. pay attention to one of the pictures there was the first person of azerbaijan, the first person stood nearby, armenia, yes, that is, pashinyan and aliyev, even for the sake of this format, perhaps these meetings are rational. now the answer to your question. well, unfortunately, although time, so to speak, reduces e in different ways , remember a couple of years ago. we said that the union state is already in oblivion, it has fallen and the euroset will also replace it today, unfortunately, uh, the cis has turned into rather such a large informal platform for communication of top officials, therefore, yes, the cis free
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trade zone is not functioning there, because some members have suspended their member state, so wait for some breakthrough solutions in the field. gnomes unfortunately the word here, unfortunately, i'll repeat, i guess they come if they can, remember we had a cis program a few months ago and we were talking. and then, suddenly, well, it’s not that it was a discovery for me for many viewers, including after a word on the comments on our youtube channel it was that, well, it turns out that the cis structure, which has existed for a long time since ninety first year and signed documents from the ninety-first year, including mutual ones, they are ratified and they served, for example, as an impetus for some agreements to be concluded, then in different integration tracks, for example, a union state in the european union . that is, let us recall in general the goal of the cis mission. the cis is such an integration
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project after reintegration is it a divorce union, right? this is the story of the first union that was built on the collapse on the ruins of the soviet union therefore, yes, that is, you are completely right, but here again i have a special mission, belarus emphasized that the headquarters, after all, is still located in minsk even for this, in principle, it also needs to be supported, in general, personal communication between the leaders of states is very extremely important from my point of view. it is not in vain that putin constantly meets lukashenka in a different format. yes, here’s a personal attitude, unfortunately, this is what was the basis for a big conflict with ukraine, yes, that is , zelensky lukashenka putin’s personal conflicts stopped well, as a result , we got what sailors got 90, see last week there was a meeting of our presidents here in minsk with putin lukashenko, and again, if the western press thinks so, it seems that putin allegedly came to
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his own land, almost to a province of the russian federation . . thrown that putin i'm going down the ladder with absolutely no one to say hello. although it was an absolutely normal meeting of the two presidents. they were driving together in the same car , talking, and here our belarusian russian experts note that it doesn’t look like the relationship between a subordinate and a person who came to indicate something, because , for example, if you are sitting somewhere in london in a corporation and extracting bananas, then you should snap your fingers there beads back bananas. and in principle, nothing else is needed, but here this is a constructive conversation, because there are a lot of questions and they need to be discussed very, very subtly. here you are, as a person who works in the apparatus with his long state, is it really such a package of questions that needs precisely in personal meetings of the presidents. well, first of all, it’s worth saying that fakes
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always pay money to someone. they are consistently doing this, therefore they have been and will be because, if the union state. previously, they simply denied, let's take the same auto-democracy in belarus, they did not recognize it, but now they began to fear it and be afraid, because a strong union state is being formed, the agreement is being implemented and look how often personal meetings of our presidents have become to resolve issues. if we analyze the meeting that even our president took place there. eh, vladimir vladimirovich putin also noted that there are issues that cannot be resolved only at the government level. but all the same, we all act within the framework of our legislation, so there are issues that the presidents should decide. and they should solve them promptly and it's worth saying that pay attention, because hmm in politics. no, friends in politics have interests. yes, and here, too, our mutually beneficial partnership. it is clear mutually beneficial, because, of course, our borders. here thank you for the support of
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the regional grouping of troops in what we have today, our joint approaches, therefore, but on the other hand. look at the economy, because vladimir vladimirovich noted the priorities. now the nearest development is machine tool building microelectronics, which belarus has preserved, therefore it is beneficial for both russia and belarus, and since power is gaining momentum. here, well, pull vasilyevich, we rarely meet with you. well, they said again, here is the union state. danica is not there the potential is huge and the potential will only increase and be realized. that's the thing. he became a driver. so he became a driver, because there were concrete results. but look, the presidents have repeatedly discussed and, as they explained, these are strategic issues to journalists. yes, that is, this is no longer a tactic, for example, of the last year, when, after starting with in, it was necessary to understand, yes, how will the unions interact? yes, the allies interact, but here, after all, the strategic question is, well, as it were
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journalists, perhaps one gets the impression that, and the union state, in theory, should switch to some kind. the other level, yes, is either deeper integration or geographic expansion. so i have this other level, yes for understanding. this is where it goes. here's some kind of merger with the euro-zes, or it's generally just completely different fashionable to say integration tracks. let's have your opinion. let's say. yes, it means that, firstly, on december 8 , 1999, an agreement was adopted on the creation of a union state, those 28 union programs, which they adopted in developing the implementation of the treaty. naturally. why do presidents say today that 60% of all measures have already been completed, that is, we are moving forward. let's complete this construction, then they always say that after all, the union is a union of those countries that are interested in developing and respecting the sovereignty of their partners. therefore, such a desire will be considered further
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expansion, but let's first do one thing and bring it here here and uh, it should be noted that? it can be called a pilot project, because the development of all the main strategic areas that are now going on by leaps and bounds, then this can be extrapolated further to our same nuclear power plant andrey petrovich kidimova. she said that well, they seem to be afraid of us, she took the phrase out of context, but i liked it very much. yes, because in terms of the military last week, peter, you and i had an interview on the radio, you and i were just discussing the topic. here is what the president said, that we will have planes that can carry special weapons. what kind of special we did not decipher, but how could one think of the fact that it could be nuclear so afraid of us. well, you know that's before you start answering e to this question. i would like to return to the beginning of the program again, what kind of an informal summit
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is it that we are having today in st. petersburg and indeed, it’s just how the thesis was thrown today that it’s just like that. the event that well takes place annually is actually something else. you know, as always, there are some intelligence signs somewhere by which you can determine what is really happening. if we look in the chronology of events, we can first of all notice the holding of an extended military colleague, which is followed by the supreme commanders of the armed forces of the russian federation, vladimir vladimirovich putin. this is followed by an event. related dmitry medvedev travels to china and meets with xingping on some very important and important issue. the only thing is that the message is special even undoubtedly. they say russian military transport planes are landing in china, and they are bringing something from there. but this is already conspiracy theories under the telegram channel at home, we are talking about intelligence, so that we can determine something, the
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next event is coming here, a very large delegation from the russian federation, headed by the president. russian federation, vladimir vladimirovich putin, and global issues are also being resolved by our president’s statement that we have the latest weapons systems that allow us to adequately respond and respond to everything that is happening today on our western and southern borders. what can be said here to be afraid of us or not? well, first of all, i want to emphasize once again that we are reacting, while the country that is reacting is not a secret to anyone that today a new concept of nato nato 2022 has been adopted, where everything is scheduled until 2020 until 2030, that is, what awaits us the main the message is definitely there, the target setting. this is collective defense within such key tasks. first of all, it is defense and
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deterrence. i think it's clear who on the western borders of the second message. this is primarily related to the overall security of their partners, you can also see who is engaged in partnership and, accordingly, the crisis management of what is happening around, that is, by and large. if you look at this document at all. er, then we will clearly determine from this that russia is named the main strategic adversary. this is the key word, china is designated only as a hybrid threat, by the way, this doctrine once says about belarus about human rights. here, too, in a message along with russian federation therefore, in this doctrine, first of all it is said. yes, there, then it says climate threats and everything else and the fight against terrorism. and suddenly, by chance or not by chance, such a serious document is adopted, yes, at the sowing level, where the russian federation is designated as a
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state that is actually a sponsor of terrorism. that is, if we look at this whole doctrine, it is all directed at the russian federation, and, accordingly, at us as a union state, how should we react in this situations. do you want peace prepare for war? it may already look today, how commonplace. e, as a banal message, yes, in fact, today it is an unconditional argument in order to respond quite adequately. well, look, our union of russia is clear and obvious. indeed, we are already working on the practice of border guard exercises and assistance in some humanitarian issues, which, as far as our president is concerned, does not hide this, as regards the csd. we have an example of kazakhstan where we worked well in in january of this year, the sco, whatever one may say, is in any case originally an organization that was created by the security forces. here, and what kind of prospect do we have, because i
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understand that belarus is not exactly an asian organization, however. so, going back. we are talking about the fact that this summit has gathered today with only one goal - to really synchronize the clock. whoever is ready for what in this situation, so that we clearly understand who the enemy is for us, then for us all these members are a friend to one degree or another. yes, and here i agree with message. what has become today by and large, the cis is a club of old friends. the kids decide. well, gentlemen 's agreements. moreover, they are usually concluded between. uh, state-owned, not based on that precisely not based on the organization. that's who wanted the one, of course, who was worried about issues of defense and security, left, respectively. here are the dkb and the sco. whom the wave was more worried about integration in economic matters, but look at this for yourself, pashinyan aliyev and putin really noted yes. that is, roughly speaking, now this the state there, this is the question of the corridor
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between karabakh. less, where are the azerbaijani ecologists now, after all, he, too, may decide at this summit, or at least there may be formal communication, a colleague is right, the japanese agrees with him, but this should not be underestimated. this is informal communication. sometimes it is resolved under the rug on issues that , in principle, cannot be resolved at the political level at the multilateral level. still a question. everyone has arrived. you also pay attention , too, very significant, it means a lot and often all important. many important questions. they decide, they just say that everyone understands the anxiety of the situation. that is , no one will just drive. well, i would like to do a little bit, perhaps, to prop the puppet, that is, that was the thesis, if i'm wrong, i apologize that let's focus on 28 programs, a pilot project, and then we'll see, no, categorically
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not, when 28 programs were signed at the end of last year, after all, such a rubicon. it was a special operation on february 24th. although the russian commander-in-chief is already specifically talking about the front. the war specifically says, that is, it is actually recognized at a high level that this military action does not make it possible, but it is necessary to intensify and not get hung up on them. here you are talking about strategic priorities. it seems to me that today there is a strategic parity. i would single out two vectors. the first vector is technological independence. this is very serious and the second is reorientation. here is the insider information that dmitry medvedev brought. pina, by the way, passed today information. i am not very good at chinese. so this is how i am and the second factor is what to become it today. i
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heard on the news that the format of the pin meeting will be undefined . and vladimir putin and the second strategic tension is the reorientation of the vector of the union state of russia, belarus, to the east. here is the shos, and so on. this is the strategy, but in principle, i say, within the framework of this strategy, it is necessary to build new relations this year. in principle, according to this logic, we went like this, well, we are talking about a month of complete intensification union programs are moving ahead of time from dollars to the national currency process. yes, uh, the second moment is the application to the shanghai cooperation organization, which, by the way, cannot be limited only to security calls, it is now. and the humanitarian, scientific, technical and educational industries are busy, that is, by and large, the sco is both the osce and the balloon process and so on, only here is something like alter of the collective
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collective east therefore, well, you know, i also want to pay attention to one point. i am just gave an example, and the previous ones are not needed. i am very glad that you are discussing several blocks without me. just in nominal order. first, these 28 allied programs. they are not finalizing new programs, including, apart from that. pay attention to other very important meetings. e, state secretary of the union state dmitry fedorovich mezentsev met with president vladimir vladimirovich putin and he reported to him on the programs of the union state, which are being implemented at the expense of the union budget. this is the cosmos security. please note what we have this year. well, in my opinion, a representative office of the kurchatov institute is scheduled to open in february, an agreement between the academy of sciences of our kurchatov institute. this is also a great achievement, when the laboratory will already be here
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intuitively. i feel, i just say so, i'm sure more intensification is needed more applied. we don’t need results in 1925 or 1930, but we need results today, so it should be indeed, in my opinion, and lukashenko said, the mobilization economy. and putin spoke. it is necessary to move to other channels, we transfer to the migration channel. let me add it third to this one. tell me, please, these are all our uh, union program, whatever it is called a union. yes, i have already said that the union , in the understanding of some residents of the former ussr, is a very unpleasant thing. although i am completely different about it. at the same time, the european union is also a good one. but everywhere and there and there in the original format the economy of the csto was lying, despite the fact that this is a military union, the economy there is the sco, the economy. there is a union of belarus, russia, too,
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the economy and the euroses economy so, after all, maybe there really should be an economy. well, the same coal and steel union, which became the prototype of the eu. what is the economy of the european union and, of course, the economy is the basis of everything, and when you said that we are in one grouping in the second there in the third and so on. we must not forget that they are often confused, and the various groupings and levels that one or another grouping. today we are at the level when an economic union is being formed. that is, i am with uh, this is an economic union, but we started the urinary free trade zone. something about what. just now they said that the cis is not completely all countries. new zone, i remember this after all in the first customs allied trade further along the perimeter. uh, it means that groupings are established, a single customs duty
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is agreed, and already further it is agreed that not only goods will move freely, but will move freely work force. recognition of diplomas. we are already doing this. in this direction, a lot has already been done and the free movement of capital. this is the economic union. that is, these are not different groups, so that people understand when we say that we are joining the sco. what a larger group. that is, here we were, as it were, hmm pioneers in the union state, namely, in the field of the economy, when we united, we showed how it is possible to unite and for a very long time the issue was discussed and the grouping stalled eea, why because they said? how can you talk about the energy market, and even you do not have it in the union. so what to say? yes, the president was already optimistic at the press conference that the formation of a single energy market was correct, and that's when they
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agreed, when they signed an agreement on a single energy market. i think whatever we are talking about is a very big breakthrough. a lot of people still don't understand. first of all, these jobs are creation. here we are what saved the industry. yes undoubtedly it is good, machine tool industry instrument making to some extent. worse. it's better to argue here. uh, it means, well, we have kept it, but for this we need markets, if you are not allowed in the market or if you have, uh, in terms of energy costs, you lose to your own, so to speak, well, not a fellow from the same member of this group, then, well, where ok, what a grouping, and in this case, when i say that this is a pioneer organization. that is, as it were, well, it shows an example for and here is the fact that we have united in the energy sector, which means we have shown what can also happen in nuclear power plants irina vasilievna remind vladimir ilyich's phrase,
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politics is the concentration of the economy, the concentrated expression of the economy. yes, and integration in the military sphere, for sure. this is also one of the highest forms of integration, because , well, in fact, trust in foreign troops on your territory. well, in principle, this is such a serious agreement between the two leaders. explain to me from the point of view of the military from the point of view of the person involved. that's it with an international theme. why, when american troops in bialystok it's good, and when the russians under the brest - it's bad. looking for whom from the european point of view. that is why, well, it is extremely important to note that we have a single defense space between the republic of belarus of the russian federation. we have a unified military doctrine of the union state and the grouping of troops, which operates both on
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the territory of the republic of belarus and on the territory of the russian federation, let’s say, according to a single plan within the framework of unified programs and plans, so uh, those groups that operate on the territory neighboring states in close proximity to the state border with the republic, belarus and often act in the interests. e observance of certain political goals, if we put the issues of ensuring the national security of specific extremist comrades at the edge of the corner, occupation is written. well, what's not clear? look at russian technology. here in minsk, for example, an armored personnel carrier with contams or some kind of uaz with krasnodar black russian numbers - occupiers. but if they have it there well within the framework of, uh, international organizations, like me, the organization of a collective security treaty within the framework of the highway belarusian technology, uh, acts on in various countries
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wide geography, including over 1,000 km, but this does not mean that the republic of belarus bought this or that country, well question then. look, you see, yes, the us defense budget takes almost 860 billion dollars yes , the budget for next year, well, 23 2 billion dollars do not poke open bases everywhere. they say, how much money is sent to ukraine, yes, that is, everything is fine. it acts in the open and it is considered absolutely normal. we do not criticize any international organizations. we never heard. yes. here is a very important point when we compare. union, we must understand that if the military-political economic component of any union does not correspond to each other, then this means that this union is not always sovereign , for example, the european union. why let's see the european union, it was profitable for him to buy russian energy resources to sell
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their products to the territory of our union in general remember was the concept of even integration integration, which was very profitable. it would seem that. why the european union has laid this thought the answer is very simple. these are the american military bases that are located on the territory of the european union, these are the bases that remained from the second world war, in fact, the occupying troops and mr. scholz, if he is rocking somewhere, they will immediately explain to him very easily and quickly that salt is expensive. your european union is secondary to compared to the euro-atlantic ones. the scales of the union, in contrast to their euro-atlantic community here. we have the eurasian union, the union state, the shanghai cooperation organization, they work in the same path. there are not those fundamental systemic contradictions that exist, for example, between
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france and the united states, which grow simply from their geographical contradictions. here we do not have such contradictions. it is profitable for belarus to sell its products to the russian federation and buy from there. e corresponding energy carriers jointly, scientifically and technically organize all this, that is, military-political and economic cooperation they are joint. who watched, in general, we are talking about unions today and we discussed how they really watch us all over the union with the help of youtube although when, before the collapse of the union , belarusian television probably only wanted to dream so that the soviet union watches everything that is produced in minsk, i said at the beginning of the program that this week is the centenary the soviet union is being celebrated and a lot has now gone. such statements by experts
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that a union state is a union 2.0, perhaps a union with china is a union 2.0 i’m wondering, in fact, can a second union appear at all tell me, as a deputy, as a person who makes the law. here, can i when it is as i understand it, that you are a person convicted of a certain kind of authority and competence. you can't say this from the point of view of a person who makes decisions at the legislative level. well, anyway. union is like union existing, he may have the possibility of reincarnation. well, i'm sure that, uh, in the sense and in the form that was unlikely, but i'm absolutely convinced. that in order for us to survive in our countries in these conditions and to preserve our independence, sovereignty is a necessity that is ripe and now, which da staggered kalino,
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all these countries are moving in this direction and now. what is happening now in st. petersburg. i think this is one of the small steps in this direction, definitely. is it possible with those with the level of contradictions that exist, well, between russia and belarus , of course, there are liberal economic approaches in some parts of the russian federation, but the same one, armenia azerbaijan is the same conditional, kyrgyzstan and uzbekistan well, as i think, that's why and the shape will be a little different. uh, it’s completely different, but look at the contradiction we had in the russian federation how much time has passed from the nineties to the middle of the nineties and so far we have established such a level of trust, such a level of integration, about the same 20 very progress returned to the fact that after all it is a union of sovereign states with their own state system. we have different economies. well, we have a goal. yes, this is an
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increase in the level and quality of life of security and and so kirill i allow myself to return. before advertising, they discussed that this is not the union, so we saw what was the european union. this is not the union because there is a puppeteer there. and as the united states of america says, everyone does it. please remember at least one case when the president of belarus or the president of russia set conditions there was never such a thing more than what a union, in our understanding, is when our president said that when we will stand back to back and shoot back. if we are attacked this is an alliance, because apart from the economy. we also have spiritual traditions. well, that's right. yes, it was not in vain that i asked for 91 years to remember, as far as i remember, when in march 1991 it was accepted. well, there was a referendum on conservation. union there were reservations that few people read after all the question. how did you sound for the union or against, and it says there. it should have been reformed to be
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more independent and so on and so forth. and when this whole thing came to december, the ninety-first year was already created in the cis format. yes, it was already a union of independent states, everyone already came with their flags, which now exist. they have already endowed declarations of independence with the status of state laws. that is, we, in principle, also came, in fact, the country that was connected with the soviet union was only still soviet ruble. that's it, nothing more, and then he made a reservation that the creation of a certain union from gorbachev was waiting for some decisions during december, and so on. oh, maybe it will be the union of independent sovereign states , and so it is generally possible the union of independent states, or the union is an alliance with a certain national body with the adoption of some kind of decision. again, we confuse what you say, it's all right, the levels should have passed the first level of which georgy vasil correctly said that the cis has not yet ended its formation of the consciousness of a free
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trade zone. this is the most primitive very first level. now, if the cis passes and wants to create a common customs union, then what was created in the eaeu, that is, along the perimeter of a single e, customs vulgarity, but this needs to be abandoned a little, and let's be honest and unambiguous about our sovereignty, here is the reinforcing of the soviet union where there was a single , the ruling party, where there was the only assistant about it. why will there never be everything point second question, what do we want to create? this question must first be defined what we want to create. unfortunately, today, on the weekly format that we want to create , there are also no allied states, one format and some goals in the european union, others shost, third, and so on and so forth, so you first need to decide, well, as it were, with a goal, and then you can achieve this goal i put a remark, you know, i actually thought about what unites all
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these unions. and probably nothing. and who ah? be that as it may, but alexander grigorievich lukashenko stood at the ideas and origins of creating the commonwealth with belarus, russia, then union he, well, as a locomotive drags on itself. forgive the cis and rightly so. he says that the capital here in minsk is somehow pushing the euroses. constantly, in every one of you, he is at a press conference and on his feet behind a press conference, the same thing is happening today at the same informal cis countries where he joked and said and wished a good mood and promised that the year would be successful. right here in this. right here in this thing. could it turn out, so what if the president's idea of creating after all? how do you say a some education, we will understand it will be announced, and it is also possible to be implemented. but
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let's go again, that is, there is ordinary psychology. a person especially of such a level, in principle, if someone is one of the leaders, no matter what he is , there is a super-duper cool person who starts generating an idea at the mental level, there should be rejection, there should be an understanding of the general understanding. and from this point of view. you say what unites unites in the same way as the european union was created. i've read the classics who put the european union at the origins, this is the instinct of self-preservation then it was a threat to the soviet union and today there are other threats. and so, until we reach this level, everyone will feel and understand that it will not be necessary to unite before that. you see, the sanctions have led to this, but it seems to me that the injectors dictate in order to be forced. it seems to me that any union should be supported by the military correctly. yes, of course, that
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is, if there is military support, i look at the word given to the military. it is prescribed to speak nationally in the treaty on the union state, and after all, today, when some decisions, if you are above the state council, which is headed by alexander grigoryevich lukashenko, there is the council of ministers of the union state. that is, it's all perspective. as they say, let's wait and see, we have to work, and the dkb is the army of the cis or the army, euro-sir? or it is, in principle, very confusing to understand. trust me, people who watch tv read the press and don't go into details. they are really very sometimes confused by the number of alliances that we take part in, we talk, that is, for us, an alliance with russia well, it's clear, soviet kazakhstan well, this is something that is also clear from the dkb. it's kind of like an army. we are leaders everywhere. we are everywhere our president speaks everywhere, i understand, the interests of the state. well, from the point of view of people, where
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is the understanding like that. well, i'll start. probably, from the very first very beginning, where the union is recognized, it will support the military there or not. well, it's like they say, on the one hand, of course. correctly? let's go back, that is enough, the army should be outside of politics, this is a classic. this tool can't understand what the army is defines policies. i agree without this, nothing, but rests and skillfully uses this tool has a much greater chance of success, because a kind word, or rather, a kind word, and colt is much more. than simple. good word, rightly agreed, the army is working. well, yes, the power of the monopoly of the state, if we return back to the soviet union, how the soviet union was formed let's remember with you, that is, no, it was the bolsheviks who came and established soviet power in certain territories taken before that, most likely kolchak deniki to wrangel then foreign
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intervention and so on and so forth, that is, what happened in this situation has changed. the balance of power, based on the fact that the balance of power has changed and a certain space has been created in which this balance of power has established its power, respectively. today we are with you. if indeed, we will measure the past by standards. that is, what happened before february 24, then, of course, there is integration, not integration there, politics, and for whom we will never create anything. see how nato is operating today in a coordinated and concentrated manner, you understand the supply of weapons and that's it. the rest, thanks to which everything basically continues, if we are talking about whether there will be an alliance or not, again, it will depend on how the special military operation goes, how the whole trend in our theaters of military operations of military geographic regions will change. and what will be the balance of power, and then alliances, blocs,
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new state formations will be created, that is, that's all. goes ahead and we most likely we'll get tired of witnessing, but in the next decade, because if we look at all the concepts, all the strategies that exist they are made until 2030, where the road map is almost clearly defined, who will act in these conditions, as regards directly e, the forces of collective forces and the peacekeeping forces that we have in the csto. well, definitely. this is not the armed forces, utkb, that is, this is the structure that allows us to act at the international level, for example, against extremism, terrorism, separatism, then there are those aspects that really got to us today, we got that 's it from the past. yes, that is, because of yesterday, of course, these moments. we need to largely rebuild what was in kazakhstan. this is largely an undoubted
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success in road accidents, i have no doubt. that is, the political will of this particular organization in military terms was demonstrated once the only time, but i hope not the last time they try to take advantage and lose. let's disagree a little, for some reason, no matter how we twist block times. these are so tough, when, for example, some turkey would be at the same time a member of nato and a member of the warsaw pact, the dagan, in fact, sits on two chairs, well, everyone understands. this is the point, the imbalance of power is such that the world is neither bipolar nor unipolar, and, for example. the same hungary is carrying out nato. oh, what an independent policy or, for example, armenia, which is a member of the csto and
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which has the largest number on its territory? throughout the caucasus, azerbaijan, which is an ally of turkey, well, at the same time good relations between the leaders of azerbaijan and belarus give us a special attitude. what am i talking about, now this geopolitics is being formed according to the network principle, in many respects a hybrid principle, including through color revolutions, including through multi-stage alliances and bridges. why is it happening now is there a transitional period? i think that after all, even a non-multipolar world here will be too expensive a pleasure. many policies will have 2-2.5 poles, three can, but a more rigid system will be built and this system those countries that are there and yours and ours and all. yes, they are just looking for themselves and they are sold by and large, where they can be the same erdogan goes to the nato summit and
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sell oil to the jackal organization themselves. yes, i do. can i join the sco, yes? that is, everything here is very, very subtle, and we must be prepared for the most unexpected hold. it is very important here that such focus points are at the dkb. he is extremely important today, as he then transforms who you are friends with another, but now you need to support his capacity. show effectiveness if our relationship is the ministry of defense with foreign military departments. they changed a lot after that, a stupid question, i understand, but still . i exclude an ally in russia. i would like to speak in dry facts of figures that international military cooperation. well , let's call before february 24 of the current year and after , in terms of quantitative indicators and qualities, well, they have not changed, that is, we have, taking into account the instructions. uh, the heads of state of the
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government bodies have changed certain vectors of cooperation and the effectiveness of this cooperation is quite significant, and for example, cooperation with the strange shanghai cooperation organization, taking into account the fact that an attack application has been submitted to the organization. it has a military component and, uh, talking about the military component of the shanghai cooperation organization is extremely important, because if we take fuel from ten armed forces in the world, then by the very number of the composition itself, there are five members of the shanghai cooperation organization in this ten implementation cooperation with these strange. we find new relations with nato, didn’t they unilaterally suspend this project , they suspended it, but the republic of belarus has always absolutely, for example, even watched in the news, that the military atoshi brought the borders seemed, look how we have the policy of the republic of belarus well, let’s say this the foreign policy of the republic dabbles in the
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context of international cooperation is that we are always open to dialogue. we invite everyone, without exception, to all military events and it is shown the way it is. eat. in particular, when there were speculations about the situation in the border areas with ukraine, all the military were brought there, credits at the mission, the cathedral showed a real picture of foreign military diplomats, there was an opportunity to talk with the fighters and with the heads of the military command and control level. here is how the commander of special operations forces other officials without restrictions. please look people went down around and looked at this question do not answer, because you are posts, and petya will be able to petya here, look when they they came, they heard, they saw, perhaps even ours were told everything is fine here, what they wrote. they wrote it themselves, because they are outside the relevant state, which is interested in a completely different interpretation of certain events. we are geopolitical
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adversaries for them, and don’t show them, even though this is all the right diplomatic tone, they will consider at the start, how beneficial it is for them, that’s what we should understand and not expect from them that they suddenly suddenly start to be friends with us, uh, demilitarize poland too withdraw. uh, american military bases somewhere across the ocean. it will not happen. see question. today we talked about the fact that alliance in general the union is based on the economy, yes. now here's a question from last week. do you remember that the allies of the united states voted on what the economy should vote against e-e glorification, and the people who defeated nazism , or, as it says, we now have to support your ideologies, great britain is right there the former country's enemies. a italy japan
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germany ukraine romania vote for the same allied relations the banking sector of the us allies on the corresponding structures of such an economy. and, of course, as an instrument of pressure, the economy must be understood. here is the question of a sovereign state and capital. that is, the same and the same european union, the same companies, let's see how they conduct, they withdraw funds. where businesses in the united states of america are independent of them is that these corporations do not think of a nation. not by interests, but they actually use other states of their transnational interests, they do not care today germany tomorrow the united states the day after tomorrow is still third. i am a very interesting fact. at least, i remember the economy again about the military blocs. now information has passed that the secretary general of the international monetary fund is changing. who should have a bolt on it?
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of course, who only, well, what is it, i think i'm talking seriously when you look at our leaders of the ministry of defense and the military department. well, this is at least, but a military man who graduated from school, who received education is practically an experience, even if it is on the training grounds and there is a mademoiselle, who, well, perhaps has never even seen how an automatic machine is disassembled and assembled. yeah well, how did we treat it? this is where the geopolitical interests of the contradiction spoke, absolutely everything is correct. well, he always forgets that they won’t beat us. peter, for whatever reason, there are no resources, but in russia there are resources and therefore an ally, so this is how they look. how to divide russia and divide resources and appoint here, if we consider in this case, ukraine, as it were, who will be the gauleiter, who will
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observe these resources for them, the wild jungle, and they themselves drenched, so no one will know. and now look again, back to the union state since 2000, more than ten programs have been implemented to strengthen border security at the expense of the union budget to strengthen the infrastructure of military facilities and business facilities. that is what is needed today. we didn't even think it would be useful. we have always believed that everything will be fine politics, it will only be promote prosperity. today this one came in handy more than ever, so here is another moment, after all. nobody is interested in us either, we need cheap resources and human resources. here's what they don't need. a high-tech country, they do not need our technologies, our independence and so on. therefore, this innovation digitalization is technological independence. what are we going to? this should be a prerequisite for our development and our stability. and
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one more thing. look, we're talking to you. uh, we're talking from a position of strength. this is correct, because today if this is the situation, but we have diplomatic corps in every state. and today we must talk about the fact that today diplomats must get on the right track and resolve issues in the interests of the people, because people and governments are different imagine they did not become nothing. andrey petrovich said if the diplomats fail the military exactly the question is about no, military relations. look here. in the past, this year 2022, we called exercises of allied determination, yes, and the next year is a shield. union cabbage soup union is therefore protected. and if there is a possibility, i recalled such an old soviet joke, but on this occasion they ask the famous radio, tell me dear radio, please, will there be a third world war there will be no war, well, there will be such a struggle
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for peace that there will be no stone left on stones. yes , that's why here are more soviet ones. come on, just really, here we come to the conclusion that e all alliances are built in search of resources. yes, after all, we are also looking for unions resources. well, for example, some trade relations. where to sell our e products, which are made in order to make money and in the end it turns out that, but this is the global system that has been taking shape over the past 30 years and let's say. so she confessed to the owners of the company 40, and she destroys, because the international monetary fund. here is a structure that has now shown that it does not work. if it works, then only in one direction of the wto in the process, through the prism of sanctions, this is generally, this is generally a structure that works. well, here is the imf we are good that you are drowning entered fine i want to say again years ago so sad, so about. between the international monetary
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fund suddenly began to work in the other direction. after all, these organizations i also added the world bank, international monetary fund, world health trade organization. after the pandemic. all these organizations were created in the post-war period, as structures that support the processes of globalization, and therefore the united states russia, why not close this global world, yes, yes, and so now the world is changing its configuration will be completely different and it will not be globalization, but it will go a different way. she will go through reggae analysis not through passion nationalization. that's how peter said he transferred capital and that's it and no national interests. is this absolutely correct? so, uh, the current government in the united states, they consider the democrats to be transnationalizers, that is, they
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adhere to this concept, and the republican party still sticks more. after all, trump came to power. so what slogan will you listen to? now, if you say that the localization of trade unions americans, with whom the union will create they tried to create a car there with mexico canada and created, but this is only the first stage, they created. that's what we were talking about, the first level. this is a free trade zone. they do not set themselves the task of passing, as we did before the second customs union, and then creating economic ones, that is, they do not set any of this. it's enough for them that the american goods are being sold new bodies we don’t have a real time system, so let’s sum up, and firstly, with the centenary of the soviet union we were all born in this country, and therefore, probably something good in this, at least there could be a second happy new year , which, as the president said, should
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what will surprise resourceful intellectuals? once the participants of one of the teams answered absolutely correctly all the questions, but the tower fell anyway . will natasha be so persistent now, mikhail will show their best qualities. i'm pretty sure the word is misspelled and comes from the word name day with the suffix nick this time. i believe that yes, as during the transition of the state of aggregation of the molecule, respectively, they decrease.
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