they work on the market for science, that is, for the future and for strategy the belarusian school of cybernetics the belarusian school of artificial intelligence exists simply, our main problem is that in the zero years, we were faced with the task of preserving personnel and competencies in belarus, so let's go to the most an easy way maintenance through outsourcing companies is being prepared for the west. now our task is to correct this and form our own sovereign cluster, a science-intensive cluster that will work in our country. eh, here it is necessary to say no only. how much time is needed, and this is at least five years. and how much more money is needed, it should be certain investments in specialists in creating the entire infrastructure , in order for it to function and be competitive for the benefit of the sanction. eh, they help us with this and the fact that

there is a certain deficit on the russian market. e such products. this is also our advantage. just talked last year with representatives from the academy of sciences, they described the process. this is, in many respects, the driving factor that rents development. just in the west, the difference is that they are often allocated grants that must be non- refundable. that is, if the so-called venture funds did not work out, that is, private funding is going on, including what kind of problem we have in the academic environment, that even if you raise funds, you ask the academy of sciences for funds for some kind of research. you just have to break up at least something for, in my opinion, 5 years, you must return this amount in a double amount. that is, even if the hypothesis was not true. in this case, even if turned out to be true, you then drown the bureaucrat very much. that is, we also need to reconsider some approaches, why sometimes they don’t want to

interact with us inside the country, in particular, yes, a toy for a western country, rather than work for our economy, because sometimes these are the requirements. they don't match market conditions too, which may not always pay off the research. here in such a direct time in such a sum. you have already said that e waves after the political events in connection with the special operation in 2020. and the area to go quite actively supported the protest, which then became a driving force for it people. we talked about the fact that salaries are higher than belarusian e, tax preferences. and the appearance that everything is fine. why well, this is actually the main factor. in my opinion, because when your salary is much higher than the same, the average salary in the it sector is about four times higher in belarus than in the average belarusian, yes, yes, that is, the average salary per numerical sector is three to four times there, depends just. evaluate ah, and in this case you are not involved in many processes in which other citizens are involved. for example, your lifestyle is changing, you are guaranteed to

often take a taxi, that is, an it specialist has protection in a taxi when he is simply late for work, this is normal. here you break away from reality, because you pay off the same mortgage faster, which, by the way, is not very good for the economy, uh, and in this case, you have a parallel reality. you start to surround yourself with people like yourself. and that creates a problem. this is a mental break, when a person no longer understands that these people are not because they are some kind of bad or something. but they, it turns out, have such power, because under this power. here they all suffer. and here they are, because they work to the west. they are just like celestials. no, it's not. they just actually work for abroad without actually going abroad, no more than they receive overseas wages, as if someone went to poland to sabbat, but if they didn’t go to poland, they would pick strawberries remotely within a meter of the universe well, figuratively speaking, i would add a few more

factors here, firstly, it so happened that it interacts with the state of the private sector. uh, within the framework of the ideology, there is no weakly theological vertical there. and the system of grant support for some ideological state pro -state initiatives from below is not provided. that is, it turned out that it was an industry, it was, in fact, separated from the life of the state from patriotic education from civil society, firstly, and the second moment, who took its place came to this empty place, first of all, interaction with western companies, primarily in segmentality, which broadcast meanings, ideas corresponding to the value, the second moment. that uh connection about western and ngo agents who received

foreign grant funding, but used this initiative in civil society in the it industry, uh, simple it people. and sent them into destructive anti-state channels. well, the third point is correct, or did i say the isolation of themselves it people in social networks, good everything is good they are, being in privileged conditions with subsidies through tax incentives by this state. they blamed the state for lower incomes in other areas, and they believed that with the help of these fake riots. yes, they will be able to change the internal situation, that is, but politically green , uh, hamsters, uh, located in a greenhouse. uh, this is the main problem, so our task is to enter the industry,

patriotic forces, civil society , trade unions were present. eh, good. i hope that it people now they are thinking about protecting the rights of the workers, first of all, themselves, at least then, i think. after reaching such prospects, we will be able to say that the it industry will be more patriotic. high tech. very firmly entered ours. life, and the scope continues to evolve. what are the next steps, what is being prepared for, what could be some breakthrough discoveries? we are now waiting to enter the industrial sector, for which we will not leave to prepare, but we all go into virtual reality, though there is nothing fundamentally new, except for augmented reality. i am personally opposed virtual reality. in my opinion. it will simply spoil the psyche of people with augmented reality. it can help us in what we can supplement our interaction, but with this segment of information, that is, an engineer can see not only with his own eyes, but additional introductory information.

meta information on some specific issues. virtual reality creates a completely distorted picture. here we must uh, medium term expect the introduction of artificial intelligence automation drones. uh, a few skilled average skilled workforce in this situation. today we need to think about the transformation of education by raising standards so that our average citizen performs more complex functions, and is not replaced by the apparatus. thank you very much for a very interesting conversation. i hope that all these spheres together with everyone will work for the good and prosperity of the country. five resourceful intellectuals drafts

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