nikolai i know that your joke calls the artist a drug lord. why sparrow

said flew out. i painted flowers for a series of poppies. i have always been fascinated by these spring flowers. yes, firstly, this is the national symbol of france , why do we have it? well, well, the narcologist, you pinch him there in the summer , this magician. well, everyone already admires beauty, the other is some kind of korean, so i said, now, what are these brands? now the drug lords would hang these works at their place. that's how it happened, it jumped out and that's it. it's stuck to me somehow i don't very nice, you know, but it happened nonetheless. that's it, yes. my guest has a unique talent to see

beauty in the familiar and ordinary , experts compare his landscapes with simple black bread, a taste that bim has known since childhood. today my guest is the artist nikolai soyuz nikolay good morning. good morning. nikolay, your childhood cannot be called joyful and easy sixth grade. you were brought up. why did it happen? life i love freedom very much. i was a kind of kid, to be honest, yes and this freedom probably somehow god to me it helped that i am now free. i did what i wanted, and not because he was some kind of problem, material, father. died. early 50 years. he was all hurt. although the children are already somewhere over 100 years old. genetics was powerful, of course, the state

sent to the resorts. we see him there was a crazy optimist. well, people at home were just waiting for me. i was still like a lodger in an orphanage, because i came to the briefcase under the bed and went for a walk wherever i wanted, and you have no resentment for mother. for this solution. no, i didn’t take offense at my mother, because i didn’t care, i was already a lodger for some reason, well, anyway, in the village. i ran away, saturday, sunday i went to some such route. and once i was just accompanied by a wolf, i was walking in the winter. i then only sense that's how it is. and how old are you? and which sixth grade do you represent? so

that i have a house, it was now a house now a house, because it's still like. i built a house in the village there, so i go there . the golden age was mine. my best ones there. work, damn it, described when i was chernevich. and by the way, what kind of relationship did you have with your crazy father? an optimist, he felt his short vector like me, when he came from the resort, he brought something so new, he began in the village to plant business box gardens with such love. it was all painted straw. it is very difficult with some chemicals in the post-war years. and then suddenly the dream of becoming

an artist. why do you know i somehow did not dream of becoming thin. for me, it was generally from some kind of, well, fiction does not exist be an artist. first, i could become a bandit in some village. you know what a village is, if the military still knows what a village was like. he will remember with what. and so i myself pavlovil all sorts of slingshots, you know, it was he who did such a crime of bones. well, the inspector could make some kind of model. there i went in a circle. uh, junior technician station, home here. when i did, there was a model ship, so well, the model was cool and suddenly i look in the next room, something is happening there. there, for years, it turns out, they have been making sculptures. here i am grateful terrible, now this is the main thing, the restorer

found the museum. the sheet pile of arcadia is, perhaps, that's where i picked up a strong one. here is the virus to make art. but i took a piece of clay. i went to the village all summer, sculpted in my father, white with clay, hid him in the garden, wrapped himself in the window. so i did it. well, it looks like, it seems yes, here, and then i took it, then i got the crimean. how to get paints i come, well, the arrogant guy was so free, do you think the real one? yes, i come to this same workshop opposite the old city of the church, and there the guys drink vodka, and they have a sea colors. they wrote that the posters are lazy, they are more alive than all the living, probably the guitars are everything. the people named after the party had a bunch of a lot of this stuff. everything, i say, yes, today there are colors. well,

look at yourself interestingly, a man takes a taxi, runs home and gives a bunch of colors. i look at them like a monkey. listen, i got here. yes, what did i take? i feel bad, however, you did not immediately understand that you want to study painting and become an artist, you worked as a turner at a factory, it was your desire or more financial need. well, you know what i'm saying again that i i was so uncontrollable that's why i was sent to the factory after the eighth grade. i was the smallest, the smallest machine was the smallest and brightest, but in order to be free, i tried to spoil this table in order to go and do my own thing. yes, i got some pennies there. well, this is

how i went through life already. well, then, yes, then i entered. i entered three times. only the third time they entered, how much did you experience the moment when they were themselves on the lists of freshmen. well, you know, any exam is still it's fate. i was still obsessed. i still did my job. yes, of course there was a great event when i entered. it's true that back then you didn't buy food with the last money, but records. well, that's such a passion came out flea, first, i'm under the door when the puppies. yes, this was her second virus. i went. we're still gloss yes and there are these music from his work, yes, that's why one language was not enough. i began to write such questions, too, such abstract ones, really under the influence of this. so i started madly in love with classical

music. i went when there were these, well, decades of books, there are records in the friendship store for us. oh yes, now i’ll try to buy such a book now, yes, then there were already people who specially bought sections and laid them with chic books, that is, not biblios of bibliomana, not the bible. but they never look at them, you know, they gave them. now it has stopped, therefore, this period. that's when that's for it there was a deficit, terrible for everything. here even a record to buy there or a book, but somehow i bought it. i had a huge the bach collection there is the rarest record, and i always wrote to the music, wrote to the music, and then somehow i, you know, it was a little

different. i had some kind of abstraction, so i know what it is, which means i realized that i must paint a landscape. and when i got two small such jobs, i realized that i was a pizdos. well, then there were different works, different genres, different people, absolutely different gram records. i know that you still collect vinyl records. how many records do you have in your collection? i have a lot of plates. i don't collect them, because first of all i don't have time for empty music in my studio, but where are the old ones that i want to part with? well, of course, the equipment should be, respectively, because the sound on this one, well, digital, yes, yes, it is absolutely not sterile. yes, for example, no daniel, of course, this is a real study. they are expensive. today it is already an antique, but

i don't want to browse. here is how i put it. i bought a german turntable. here i am very pleased. there is such a famous an expression that an artist must be hungry in order to create great works, does an artist really have to pass the test and without money in order to better know life. well, you know that i don't think without money the same if they were today. i will say very much that, well, this score is not fate honest. this is rare. you know an artist who discovers the world beyond the invisible completely different society. and in general, he is perceived with hostility, because people are used to some kind of stereotypes.

you see, but in order to buy a job, as it were enough, how could you buy for a long time at the time when he was, well, yes, yes, well, how is it, huh? well, he opened it, so he was hungry. yes, therefore, when to accomplish a feat. yes, it is open new committed people. and, of course, nobody needs them. well, there is a young one. aha, that's aha, since people are investing money, and since you realize, although this is my artist. he is not entirely mine, but an artist. well, as for the style of life according to his principle, he was completely free. he fulfilled himself. he spoke the truth. well , i spat once on canvas, it turns out a castle. yes you understand that i am rich, because we are so . you see, everyone has their own destiny. absolutely

yes. you see, well, nevertheless, they opened the world. they opened. this is very chocolate so to speak. here they lived, they rejoiced, and the fate of the pikasu beat everyone there trampled paris yes, that's all, he lived, he lived beautifully , he had good fish. yes, he had the courage to tell the germans. you did this for sure. i have done for you. yes, yes, like this, that means you have to have pride and independence even respected for six years, so for me today you understand some kind of pr schla. yes it. well, this is not mine, you understand today, well , first of all, you, if you are hung up on your own weather, and you really think that you are already like that, yes, you know, you are tickling yourself and laughing yourself. yes, this is bad, but every day he didn’t do that and live it, so he already wrote this. it's dead, the most,

great work from a blank canvas. do you understand, do you hear the verses? i represent, but i know that in your life, i can't sell them. yes, it is to paint a picture. it's a job to sell something art gave in your life there was such a period, they wrote posters for coupons for food. and now how do you remember this time. well, you know, i'm lucky too. i was a court painter in the sports palace, and it was very, you know, the largest object in europe at one time. yes, that’s the message of the cheese park, well, they all passed anyway. i came there to work. you see, i was paid a penny somewhere, there was a workshop there, everything was paid to me by those for a penny, that is, there was a salary, yes, and even more than that, athletes, because when i watered the competition, yes, these were food salons , they lived very well with these guys,

yes, then they were right in my yard right there was housing and a workshop. well, yes, here is a bytonian garden through the fence. they all fried some kebabs there after theirs, there were hashut, that is, i was a courtier with this and lived in chocolate, one might say, and in the seventy- eighth year your paintings got to the all- union youth exhibition in moscow, and it was completely by chance that it was for the story, firstly, what was the soviet union and always a mouse, so to speak international kept, of course, the main place it has always been. this was moscow, they always something we did not distribute. they are all there. and now, probably, it would be so, well, there were messengers who came artificially selected from belarus and, of course, the thick savich or the pike came to my pool, brought these guys. well, i'm telling you what i wrote there. i didn't think

it was just a pleasure for me to exhibit at all, like a child. here is the process itself, and the process is important for the artist, and suddenly these four works are taken from me. that was the first all-union exhibition, and then yes, and then me after that, contracts were already coming from moscow . that is, i already began to order works for me, and leon, a belarusian painting, was bought by the tretyakov gallery for 5,000 rubles. it seems to me that every artist dreams about this event , also contributed to the occasion, this is a small workshop of 2 m, a retreat and on the street and suddenly it. tretyakov gallery and suddenly in the newspaper soviet culture, i'm going from moscow. we were always invited and suddenly the newspaper of soviet culture. i’m watching leon plants mirnoe is a newspaper of the central committee of the cpsu and i missed this picture on the whole page left belarusian. yes, i come to minsk to me. and for how much did you buy? that's how they did not

perceive each other envy or what? i don't know, you know, but for me it was not the main thing. that was the main thing for me. that's when i write, i live, if it's not a secret, uh, what did you spend the fee for the picture on? do you know that i first came to the village? what, and then i decided to build a house when they bought my mother from me, firstly, come on, here i am anyway running to the birch there as a sympathizer. well, our village was such a central collective farm center. well, you know, combed a little. yes, and there is space. you see, this is a problem. i say let's buy houses where we didn't drive around no no, i'm used to it. here i decided to build a house. that money was spent that i built a house there, of course, it cost me a lot of hard work. this is 3-4 years. i built it myself. yes, you know there, well, it’s somehow hard for me, because

moscow signed contracts and there were orders through the plant. that is, i have already earned this creative money. they've gone to do it. your work has been exhibited many times. abroad and your paintings are in private european collections. eh, there was no such desire to move and live abroad . you know that there is already such a legend that it lies in the eyes. he will come through the screen on foot home. yes, like a cat, that's why i can't be there for more than 10 days, to be honest. so i was in italy when not to speak. yes? yes, well, everything is great there. yes, but still at home. i came to the village that i first saw in france i watched yes beautiful, country, awesome, awesome everything, what did the artists do there. you know it yes. well, when i look, he's looking at

such greenery. here, she's an owl. yours is not the same as we have in august , the greenery is such that it is worthy. picturesque if a painter paints greenery with green paint, then this is not painting. i need to collect some dirt to interfere and write you not green red. yes, you see, that’s why i somehow, you know, was born there, well, i don’t know, it’s probably good to leave for 25 years 30 there yes, well, when you are already 50 60, no no, i’m gone. yes, well, we are already and still even museums that's the greatest thing that is the state of the artist - it's a process. this is when you are a workshop, my attack is my wealth, and you think that this is not enough? to whom? yes, well, to be so free, and it's very. right now, it's just important to appreciate every

moment of it, well, just recently you presented one of your most famous paintings to the palace of independence. it's a memory, luciano turning. why was it given as a gift and not sold? well, you know that a series of flowers, mine was such that i painted large canvases directly from nature. it was called the melody of summer and turn, this is my favorite version. this is a brilliant singer because i love music. and on this day, when i write. delphiniums - do you know how music floats? i say scary blue this color. here you know this. well, it's hard to convey and all of a sudden i hear the stress didn't turn off. so i called the memory beam. and this work was written in one session. that is, this work is very expensive for you to buy and the chinese. many. well , what happened was that i didn't want to talk to him. i don't want to draw. you know, that's how you part with

children, that's with good work. i don't feel like parting, they rarely happen to bad ones. i'm ashamed nikolai and you're not the only artist. in the family, your spouse maria, an expert , is called the queen still life, how two artists survive in one workshop. there is a saying i will answer with an ax, so for me she is a wife, she is a woman, i married a woman. and the fact that she is an artist. yes, she is an artist, so that today they don’t say it’s necessary to be insanely modest. for her, again, the process is important for her, it can even be a hobby, if for me a profession is a profession, when you earning money is a profession. but when real art is done from the heart, as here, they don’t think for money, they

do great primitivists did, yes, when there is a need, here she is, but she is a master and when the exhibition is in italy and the president of the italian academic. this is the queen in prison, especially since it is in the palace and the guys represent the italian kings in the halls, such, yes. it's awesome. yes, she is a master and with them from her work. i part very hard illness. why are you breaking up hospital? why because you know, i see what these jobs are given. and that she has this real art for marina, this is now, they didn’t make a reservation. marina you said marina i'm with you masha in the village there right? well, somehow marina here is clinging to me. and then she is so middle-class she loves water. that's why she doesn't protest.

the fact is that she, water itself, introduced the excavations, and i'm fire, so we have hiss all the time. here we go then time would be, and i'm just starting to burn something there i have, and the fire, she pah at me and that's it. and this is the picture we have and that's it. in one of your interviews, you said that if an artist had three or four works, it means that he was successful in this form. you can say that you were standing as an artist, you know, it's hard to say, maybe it's just time to put it on the shelf and say, i think so, but the fact that there are some favorite idols, i look at my favorite works. i don't know which one i

don't care about. i'm calm why, because i somehow feel that people are looking to the west looking at this modern art, but i'm not conservatives, that every time has its own artists, its heroes, and many people spit on this. well, i'm a different artist. i am an artist from the earth. i'm here, of course, now i'm trying to somehow change these. maybe it's too late. well, you know the process is going on, but what time will tell, so i think that yes, the artist, if it happened in 3-4 works , one happened, in short, they flew in. yes, and then he will repeat again, he wrote a copy, endlessly earned money, slush. better

not write to me. that's it, so i ca n't say today. what are my works will remain. this is probably the time to choose. and you can do a lot. and maybe one maybe nothing at all for sure, everyone talks about it. come on, well, we have come to the end of our conversation, and our program is called the meaning of life for you. what is the meaning of life, just live, do not think that you need a lot, that you are some kind of genius. and just to enjoy every person is a phenomenon, it is not repeatable, therefore, for everyone. i haven't done what i want to do yet. well, the process is underway, therefore, for me, each even, my exhibition. i

do this for myself, so you see what else capable, what can i do? here, when i saw my old work, it would seem to me how i could appreciate it, and some i get, how could i write it, yes. you are delighted all the time. surprise, we live. that's plus or minus and that's it. and what to think, the meaning of life, life is just what god gave you and lived, i can’t judge someone that they are doing something badly. can he have any happiness in this, right? that's because she did not repeat each. thanks a lot. this was the meaning of nikolai saenko's life. they

live as their heart tells them, doing favorite thing, and in the opinion of society, they boldly break the stereotypes of the creativity box of an introvert who just wants to be in the workshop to do everything with his own hands, my friend told me. are you crazy, you keep leaving, you open a new house in your head, the next two or three rows in chess immediately go there. yes, that is, a few steps in advance for yourself to already understand that their path to yourself will end was not easy, but it was worth it on the other side of the phone, a young voice, how old are you right away? yes, he must be slightly bearded. which i don't enough, i just worked out in myself, that is, stereotypes. it lies in the fact that if you want, you can change this stereotype.

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