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is now looking back at the events with us, thinking, trying to understand why they happened, what does all this lead to? i am very pleased to welcome the guests of our today's program. thanks for taking the time, but let's start. we are of course with news from the current. here we have declared a year of peace and creation, but at this time, look, mm, while we are thinking about the world of fondyrlyans, head of the european commission. we are threatened with sanctions again. listen to what he says we will put pressure on the kremlin for as long as it takes with a tough sanctions regime and we will extend these sanctions to those who have military relations supporting russia's war such as belarus or iran is that aleksey what? bears, well, to be dishonored, firstly, secondly, first. why sanctions are dishonored to nothing

brought already there is no package of sanctions. they don’t impose sanctions on russia and belarus now, not because they don’t want to recognize us. we don’t know what to introduce already, what to introduce yet, so as not to completely destroy the european economy, this is the first. and the second. look, he told the truth from the other side. for all 20 years, after all, sanctions, they are not the first against us. they are hard to understand in europe the complexity of it and what, in general, there is gender representation, uh, for all 20 years sanctions have been imposed on belarus not for elections, nor for some pseudo-democratic norms. in fact, the west has always been spitting on our election campaigns and who will be elected and how we conduct them, as in the whole world. this is hypocrisy. in fact, sanctions were introduced from the moment lukashenka came to power, as a people's president, only at the same time for his strategic course with the russian federation, and he openly says it is impossible to be friends with russia, the united states can not

be friends. you can be friends with china you can’t be friends with iran you can’t be friends in the middle east, we will determine for you who you will be with make friends, with whom to trade and how to live? here it is european democracy in their understanding. that is, he openly says, we know perfectly well that belarus is not participating in a special military operation. everyone knows this, belarus is an ally of russia belarus will not allow russia to be stabbed in the back. this is what this is how to understand? and we are for this sanctions because you want to build an alliance with russia and why does he have these sanctions against lithuania for being an ally of the united states why does he have these sanctions against european countries that supply weapons to ukraine unleash a war , destroy the ukrainian people, they destroy the ukrainian people, we save thousands of ukrainians on the territory of belarus, the best commentators are known. we are not coaches , first of all

, first of all, if the club wants to play in the premier league, so that it must have the infrastructure, the main task is to create a competitive team that would be mentally ready to fight for the highest places, so here is the responsibility and, of course , painstaking professional work, bright sports events. the boys are looking excitedly, because the favorites are falling loudly reports from the scene at first did not want to go high scary, incomprehensible a little bit afraid, and then like everything is fine, went every year, there is a team that will shoot always it was and will be everyone wants to be this team that will shoot, watch in sports projects on belarus 24 tv channel. we continue our program. another topic that is now being discussed just a few days ago, the

event turned 2 years old, which turned the way it is considered the united states of america itself on january 6, 21, the crowd stormed the capitol, were killed and wounded, the riot was suppressed without any regret, no talk about incredible people with bright faces who have the right to their opinion, there were no participants in the rebellion, briefly called domestic terrorists. we have been planted for many years. it seems that a lot of time has passed, other factors have appeared, but still, in the judicial states of the last two years, three things remain unchanged, the growth in sales of personal weapons by 43% over 10 years. the fascination of his number victims and the radicalization of public opinion. according to a survey published in the journal science, slightly more than half of americans surveyed expect a civil war in the next 2-3 years. this is moreover, 20% of americans are ready, not just citizens, but intend to participate in it with weapons in their hands, that is, approximately 50 60 million people are ready

to fight i think that everything can be, that is, now we live in such a world. when to say, here is 100% that something will not happen it is forbidden. well, i wish they had, but the truth is, no. we never wish harm to anyone. or maybe they will finally stop being different. we never want anyone to die somewhere. we never want to die somewhere. here, let them take an example. and what’s the truth, i carefully read american expert analysts who analyze the situation in the united states of america, they all say that challenge number one for the united states now is not an external factor, not china or russia, no matter how they talk about it, but internal contradiction problems, including unsolvable, contradictory problems, a split, has reached such a depth, when by a simple god, when the elites fail to agree, it does not work. now the split has gone real split between, uh, old america, you can call it that

, and new america means, and uh, this liberal america is the surplus of liberal radical liberal, which is already this liberalism. they raised almost the rank of dictatorship and fascism of a certain, when daritarianism, when a different opinion is different, you cannot have this liberalism. you you declare that they are immediately the enemy and they are pushing this policy onto the entire globe and because of this there is a huge split inside america. whether there will be war or not, i don't know. i know one thing, that the hegemony of america has ended forever and will not be revived. for me, for example, this is understandable. someone can argue with me, but they left the middle east , they did not leave for the middle east. they will still fight for him, they will lose europe, this is what they are doing in ukraine now, they will lose europe, i am convinced of this russia is not on they could not deliver and will not deliver. china is not on its knees, they will not put it. india is waking up the middle east is waking up so eventually they will have to

focus on domestic issues. and i would have long focused on one of trump's successes . that's what he said, let's deal with america let's deal with america and our problems. stop feeding everyone. stop climbing everywhere. enough to decide everything is another matter that he did not finish saying that all the success of america and all its material well- being, life, was conducted all these centuries at the expense of others, in principle, like the european union who lived all these, for example, the last 30 years after the collapse of the ussr only at the expense of the countries of the post-soviet space. everything they have now we have given. we gave them resources. we gave the best minds, they pumped us out during the years of the collapse of the ussr therefore, the crisis in america will continue, but we don’t need to flatter ourselves, just the same they will. they will be more aggressive and try to solve internal problems at the expense of us, as they are now doing to ukraine ukraine, an attempt to solve their internal

problems and yet. e for your prediction. eh, they'll come. they are up to it. well, really. we see that the attitude of the americans to this process is such, well, that is, the phenomenon of which you call it is not the first the guardian conducted such a study back in the summer and made exactly the same conclusions and experts who previously believed that it was generally impossible today. they say that e probability is very high. i would also cite other research figures. after all, one in five americans believe that america should stay a democratic country, that is, on all the principles that we already know, but up to 40% of americans believe that the strong are more important leader and when strong lady comes to power, then with democracy with those principles , problems immediately begin, because the leader has his own vision . and as soon as that one, uh, and trump oh, whom oleg sergeevich mentioned, he just showed that the arrival of such a strong leader who voices his own agenda immediately gives rise to a split in

society. so if another one comes along leader, or even trump, uh, wins in our elections, then a clash. uh, alexei is inevitable, but what is happening now in brazil . can we compare it with the storming of the capitol, let's stand and things, or all the same. yes, especially since we know that the adviser is trampasti in beno, but he was directly involved, he advised on sonar, for many years and months. yeah, well, i'd like to go back to america actually. here, too, we see outward signs of splits. it really is a serious tension in american society, but on the other hand, it is clear that elites are not stupid. i think i will move trump to the republicans. well, here’s someone who didn’t fulfill his agenda, and we see that, for example, such a radical senator republican desantis has come forward in florida and, most likely, he will storm the white house in a political sense. and this means

that there will be a reconfiguration. elite in order , by the way, to prevent the civil war. they understand that the tension between the radical radical republican democrats is so great that some third figures in the rhetoric are needed. they will continue these things, but they will still transfer to the external circuit, therefore, for example, the landing force is much more hawkish, by the way, in relation to russia than trump or even baidam criticizes biden for softness, weakness, and so on. therefore, we really, of course i am also a peaceful person. but if their conflict goes on, deeper, it will be beneficial for us to open-naming work. i am silent, therefore speaking, i have the right to a subjective assessment. but meanwhile, if we talk about the capitol, it is very important for us the conclusion is that look even after 2 years. yes, they are not going to reconsider their attitude towards those people who did not just storm the capitols, oh, who sympathized with these actions. look at these

internal terrorists. that is, in belarus in the twentieth year. they saw exclusively democratic processes in their country. they do n't want to see it. and here is brazil why compared, because there is a very clear attitude to what is happening says we repeat that freedom of speech does not cover physical aggression forcible-sabotage. political upheaval. he will remember the famous phrase of an american person of a well-known official, the revolution is the lot of banana states. this is the whole essence of politics, that is, the revolution is a tool. revolution is a tool. it should be used where in those countries of the third world as in their opinion, this is the fucking dmitry of the world to establish the regimes that are needed. and they don't have it. here it is oleg sergeevich , we are approaching one of the most difficult topics, we we see that in the united states they are not going to approach her there and, possibly. this is even

more to divide the society, but these days they are very actively discussing the words spoken by the president, and on christmas in the temple. which in general, in fact, is this idea. she is one way or another in society and there are several points of view on this matter, two radical, radically against, and a neutral side. firstly, let's listen to this fragment, and then we will definitely discuss it, please, we did not expel anyone from belarus, this is their same land like ours. but they were looking for a better life for various reasons, they fled from here, the time has come when we are representatives of the authorities, i, as the head of state and you are absolutely servants, our people must take a step towards these people who at one time, or a madman for some

time, having lost their bearings . they made a mistake and it will probably be according to our orthodox, if we take this step towards them. i don’t want to say that we are now as the west demands of us. i talk less about it, but it’s every day demands to return and so on there are no lawbreakers. everyone must answer for his own, but i am sure that among those who fled and those who live today we have deeply repentant people, people who realized that they were mistaken. they should not be thrown to the curb. we should not create points of tension in our society, so we will take appropriate steps to ensure that belarus is peaceful

and calm, so that we do not look askance at each other. here is such a thesis oleg sergeevich, how do you see it in yourself? well, first of all, these are the words of a strong man of a strong president a strong leader and only the strong are capable of compassion only the strong are capable of uniting only the strong are capable of saying what our president says, as i feel about it. i so that those who committed a criminal offense betrayed the country. uh, the leaders are, first of all, those people who have been in the care of the west for years and have committed terrorist acts. they wanted to kill my children, so they almost burned me. how can i relate? i've been asking for a long time, personally, i'm on such. it seems to me to return, so, uh, such people we should they should always know that the law of criminal legislation is the same for everyone and the punishment

is inevitable, there can be nothing else here. and in general, we live in a rightful state, everything we do, by the way, we do it exclusively according to the law, but there is another side to the coin. what the president says are people who are deceived by political technologies, deceived by the leaders of the so -called succumbing to emotions, without committing criminal offenses, without committing criminal offenses. perhaps by committing some kind of administrative offense. they on emotions. uh, with left someone ran away ran away like with them many of them repented. really repented saw this western democracy. how to be here you have to do it like a president by law, and if they have not committed a crime, and the most amazing thing is happening now, you know how many people are now returning to belarus with warsaw. uh, and it's a lie that they all go to jail. this shaman was specially launched a duck so that people would not return. after all, this is the collapse of these fugitive leaders, a collapse, because no one believes in them for a long time and

people keep coming back. so. here, according to the president, my position is simple: do everything according to the law, as lukashenka always demanded according to the law, that means. but what we will do is to unite the belarusians. yes, we already do. the new constitution is not a step of democracy. step a single voting day in the twenty-fourth year. this is not a step of democracy. step a law on political parties that we will now take a step step. yes, we have already done everything in these 2 years to ensure that people of different political views who they will always have the right to express their thoughts , they have the right to participate in political life, but only the guys, as before, will not be, when our fifth column flourished, when our elections interfered, this will never happen , in order to support, in principle, what, of course, absolutely from my point of view the correct verified step. it corresponds to the spirit, just the same, of our year of peace and creation, which we have declared 2023, we are open, which means that our society is openly ready for people who have rethought

some things that were allowed, if they did not violate the laws, as aleksey sergeevich absolutely rightly noted, those who violated the law should bear the corresponding. responsibility, and those who succumbed to emotions, so for some reason, for some reason, left again, they are given a chance to return here and connect to peaceful creative work. you'll get out earlier, that's who even there committed a crime leader come back 5 years from sitting 4 years then you will be free to see how it sounds in society when this thought appeared. she really appeared quite a long time ago. here there is most she did not like. uh, of course, a fugitive fugitive in this case. i'm talking about leaders who call themselves leaders. we understand that the leader is who leads the way, and people who simply take advantage of m-th those who are in a difficult situation. these are not leaders. so these are against it, because they see the real picture and understand that a significant number of people will return to their country. we understand. what a difficult punishment to be cut off from the roller there is another part that calls itself the

new patriots. which is also enough the radical looks at it all in this way. they say, now we will go to meet them, but would they come to meet us or not. this is one, and the second, how can we thus prevent what eventually led to the twentieth year of those events, if the other part, which, in general, probably should unite everyone, which boils down to the fact that without some kind of consensus we we will not create a society that will be able to pass the tests that the whole world is going through now, including us. alexey valeryevich how are you look at this question? well, i would really divide the category of those who left into several levels. yes? the first is those who, well, actually did not do anything special. frightened, they left and went to the greenhouse. yes , they are the majority, there is a part that, for example, participated in illegal rallies. and there is a formal basis for legal prosecution . but if a person comes and says, i repent. i am actively willing to show no responsibility. in

fact, well, it won't be so serious, the main thing is to show that you yourself came and say, that's it, these were mistakes. i repent of her and i am sure there are hundreds of cases when our law enforcement agency go forward after such steps. yes, on the other side, there is, of course, a small extremist part that has already committed a serious crime. so, the outstretched hand, of course, concerns the majority of our citizens who either made a mistake or stumbled, and they can take this opportunity now about fears, which means such a colleague, but a bright patriotic part of society. well, like this this is the wave that has awakened patriotic and it should be on guard. if we see that somewhere something starts again. well, there is a civil society, it has arisen and it works. now look at people's reactions to various phenomena that are relics for another 100 epochs. yes, until the twentieth year, the authorities hear, as with the latin let's say

, or with some other manifestations? of course, the authorities must carefully observe, that is , they must not allow confrontation, that is, they must react. we must understand to solve problems, as if they arise, well, glory god, this is what is happening. and if those people who return want to join normally , then everything will be fine for them, no problems. they will not create, but they can politically express their opinion through the legal forms of the party, parliament, elections, and so on, so this should never concern officials, who betrayed the official everything, this is a traitor who is impossible all over the world. yes, from the changes of the state the second point that we must never forget. i totally agree, but we've been declared war. she has not been officially declared and this war will not end ahead of two serious electoral campaigns we are entering this year in them this is the twenty-fourth year of the single voting day and the presidential election of the twenty-

fifth year in the twenty-fourth year. we are forming a russian assembly. we must understand that no one will let us hold them calmly. this is an illusion. they will do. all western intelligence centers, uh, stir up the situation by any means necessary. none of us will be left. here it is against the us civil war hello mp international. it's in the title olga yuryevna will make your vision of this situation here. i would pay attention, but to what the president said about people who left for various reasons, they did not run, but left for various reasons, and today sociological surveys. you already show more that belarusians are under very serious pressure from the outside. and the patriots are just as polish, therefore, i think, and that the president’s appeal was also directed to those people who did nothing at all, but left for some personal reason, perhaps wanted to earn and youth. we also need to remember

the youth who studied there, and who, perhaps, today do not find their place there in connection with the events, so their return is also very important for us and what the president says about it. today i think that he is absolutely sure that we have created all the mechanisms and a new patriot. probably nothing to worry about and completeness of information. let's be very short. now there is another very important piece. we just talked today in a lot of context. here in that including those decisions that are made within the country. and what is this confrontation? what is this condition in which our society, as never before, must be strong and monolithic. let's listen to the words of the president, spoken just the day before during the ceremony. e award for spiritual revival, please, our example. this is a real challenge in the global unification project. here are trendy values ​​and so-called trends. imposed on the whole world understand what is behind this cultural

expansion. what else is called soft should not at all soft. i would even say that the consequences of the loss of statehood and sovereignty are very harsh for independent states, the loss of oneself as a people. it turns out that this is the main battle that is unfolding for one's own, for one's people, for one's own national state.