and the media, many pupils of a preschool institution received shrapnel wounds and burns, the number of victims could have been more in the kindergarten, the buildings of which were practically destroyed at the time of the helicopter crash, there were only four children . causes of pilot error. the malfunction of the equipment is also assumed that the ukrainian air defense system could shoot down the helicopter and at the same time the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine reports a possible sabotage. kyiv needs more armaments, this was stated by the head of the european council, charles michel, at the plenary session of the european parliament, the politician supported the supply of tanks to ukraine through the european peace fund before the readiness to transfer western-made tanks to kiev, france and poland said it is expected that this week will become known and germany's decision on the supply of leopard tanks, so far, berlin has not agreed to send military vehicles and,

despite pressure from warsaw , the administrators of the black book of belarus received another sentence on the fugitives in aggregate crimes for 12 years. imprisonment plus hefty fines and civil lawsuits have also satisfied the extremists. the case was tried for inciting social hatred and discord, an illegal action in relation to information about private life and personal data, the case was considered by the minsk city court. it is known that the country of prosecution requested 12 years. deprivation of liberty. high court. with the arguments of the prosecutor. agreed, regarding the process itself, there are no defendants in the courtroom, despite the fact that everyone was duly notified, and they passed through the body sazanovich. and bogdanovich vysotskaya, because of the non- monstrous presence of lawyers. state. the accusers are people's assessors and journalists. our main defendant, bogdanovich, will serve time in a high-security colony ; everyone else will be assigned a general regime. and the general prosecutor's office in the

minsk city court upheld the state prosecution in a criminal case against members of an organized group, bogdanovich navosha sazanovich vysotskaya, because of neman, who was charged with creating the administration of a number of destructive telegram channels under part three of article 130 and part three of article 203 of the note of the criminal code of the republic of belarus, on the basis of evidence presented by the side of the state prosecution, the court found bogdanovich guilty of nimmonskaya sazanovich vysotskaya. and for information, the first verdict, by the court of special proceedings. on december 26, the minsk city court found alexander gerasimenya and alexander opekin guilty for calling for sanctions against belarus . let me remind you that the hero’s family guardians have been abroad since the twentieth year and investigation put on the wanted list for 12 years. deprivation of liberty fine and property of gyrosemia on account of the repayment of a civil

search was appointed by the court to both. new information from my colleagues at 15:00 on our air. all the best. i welcome you. this is a program for

those who want to better understand the current world and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. we will tell you right now the riots in brazil on january 8 supporters recently, loser by a small margin, the same presidential election votes. ira was sonar seized the parliaments and a number of other administrative buildings in the capital of the country, the security forces easily coped with the protesters, and the army on the sympathy that the instigators counted on. remained true, the us constitution of the eu and other western countries. they took the side of a left-wing politician who recently took office. lula-da forces publicly supported the rebellion, his former rival flew to the united states, but the brazilian government still accuses sonar in organizing an attempt to seize

power by force and deliberately seeking his extradition from the united states poland continues to insist on paying grandiose reparations to germany for the occupation during the second world war. berlin refuses to even discuss this issue, considering it settled along with the decision on the borders in the 1960s. however, in light of this year's parliamentary elections, the ruling nationalist law and justice party decided to bet on inciting anti-german sentiment in order to show the seriousness of their intentions last week of the government. poland appealed to the us congress with a call to put pressure on the frg and force berlin to start negotiations on the amount of compensation for the crime of the nazis. china continues to rapidly lift the strict quarantine restrictions that have gone away for 3 years from the past week, foreigners arriving in china were not required to go to the isolation itself, it

was enough to have a negative patient test. experts expect a quick restoration of international air traffic with china, including belarus, the exit of the chinese economy from the lockdown promises to give power, they say, to the growth of world gdp and also provoke an increase in energy prices towards the end of 2023. i want to report that the body of today's cold oil and gas program. who will win, russia or the west, as historians write, in 335 bc, the king of macedonia, philip, besieged a fortress in central greece when the officers reported to him that the fortress was on a hard-to -reach rock and it would not be possible to take it, he answered. is it so hard to reach the donkey loaded with gold did not pass, and we understand that throughout the history of mankind, wars have been won with so many weapons. how much

money, without which this weapon cannot exist, this is especially true for the current battle between the west and russia, the outcome of which depends on the economy even more than on the situation on the front line in the donbass, we talk about this in more detail in our program to understand the ups and downs of the energy confrontation moscow and washington will help me. vadim borovik political scientist, hello, good afternoon igor yushkov leading analyst of the national energy security fund expert of the financial university under the government of the russian federation hello, i am glad to welcome andrey vasilyevich and damako to our program. hello well, by tradition, we start our program with a blitz millet, i address it to each guest. please tell me how much, in your opinion, a barrel of brent oil will cost by the end of 2023, of course, it is difficult, but to predict, but

some analytics for our dear provide spectators. i think you will succeed in this. let's mean, no one will give you a forecast for sure. there is a very serious variability depending on a number of factors. on how quickly china will get out of the lockdown, on how much recession will be and whether there will be a number of leading energy buyers in the world economy. ah, the extent to which russia will be able to build logistics and, most importantly, ensure payments for its energy resources, and plus, and what discounts will it be forced to provide. and all this will play a role, therefore it is important for the russian federation today to a greater extent that the price of oil and gas does not fall below the limit that provides, uh, the minimum well minimum federal budget deficit. this is the most important task andrey vasilievich please i want to hear your opinion. thanks succinctly.

yes, igor well, i agree, what is here? eh, really. we probably expect the price at the end of the year to be higher than now, but throughout the year, indeed, it is more likely will change. here is the first half. probably still. it will be pretty stressful. uh, the period is already there, and china has even announced the lifting of quarantine measures, but has not yet completely increased, it can say the volume of consumption, that is, the effect, it is the oil market. we do not yet see it to the end, on the other hand, there is indeed a decline in economic activity due to the fact that rates were raised in the us and the european union, and the central bank of the fed puts pressure on the price. and so in the second half of the year. i think it will just recovery period in china and economic activity. e in the strange west will increase. well, if again the question is, how much will the price be in the market number and what will be the russian one

? also in the twenty-third. she is also in the second half of the year. uh, it will decrease and decrease, but with your permission, it is worth showing the details to discuss the graph of the dynamics of oil prices, please, colleagues. that's how she looks. we roughly understand that the first month. here, in 2023, the price of oil does not differ, which was already at the end of 2020 the second, that is, this jump was in the past and is now more or less going up, the price of oil, but again, such judging from your answer. igor then, there are some cardinal jerks, yes, or they don’t observe a lion of decays. well, here it is important to note that there are factors that put pressure on the price, push it down, and this is, first of all, uh, that factor of the general 22nd year due to the fact that energy, in principle, was expensive and inflation developed in the hydrocarbon importing countries, and in europe in the united states and they all

raised the rate and the fed the european central bank in order to overcome inflation, but this leads to the fact that economic activity slows down, respectively, less oil is needed, but the fundamental factor that, in principle, created this is the condition for high prices for e- energy. this is not additional funding, many years of underinvestment in the industry. he will stay has not gone away, and in the twenty-second year, too, and the investment was not enough to cover the deficit. therefore, this is a fundamental factor. it will still keep the prices of oil and gas and coal at a high level. well, i would like to note that russia's ban on the sale of its oil to countries that have set a price ceiling for its raw materials - these are the eu g7 countries and australia will cause a significant increase in prices. this statement was made by a commodity market analyst at handels bank. banken christian copter and coffee, explains the former large volumes of oil purchases from russia of

economic feasibility. now when you take this raw material, you will have to pay somewhere else. more will have to be done. however , cofer's biggest concern is russia's intention to cut oil production and, in his opinion, a combination. no, produced volumes with the gradual return of the chinese economy. it can significantly raise world oil prices to its previous state, but more about this in our story, following the european union, countries in the g7 and australia introduced a ceiling on prices for russian oil . was made public immediately after the eu was able to agree on the cost of black gold at $60 per barrel , if oil becomes cheaper, the price limit will be revised and will be 5% below the market value, the price ceiling pursues relapses. first, it strengthens the effect of our sanctions. secondly, it will further reduce russia's income and thirdly. this will simultaneously stabilize world energy markets, as some

grades of russian oil. now it will be possible to purchase, including in the european union, resell transport to a third country. provided that the price remains below the ceiling from the russian wind, russian foreign minister sergey lavrov immediately followed, saying that moscow is not interested in what exactly the restrictions on oil will be, since russia will negotiate with partners directly worse vladimir putin signed a decree that prohibits oil supplies, so strange and for companies that use the price ceiling, the ban will take effect from february 1st and will remain in effect until at least july 1st. even if they bring it down. investments will be reduced to zero. in the end, prices will skyrocket and hit those who offer such solutions. so who really benefits from the price ceiling, in the first place, cost restrictions are

actually an easing of anti-russian sanctions, because back in the summer the eu tried to agree on a complete ban on imports oil from russia and the us became the main initiator of the ceiling washington fears a sharp rise in oil prices further acceleration of inflation and exacerbation of the global economic crisis. in the event of the instant disappearance of millions barrels of russian fuel from the world market. since the country has only recently held congressional elections, where the republicans won the majority of seats in the house of representatives and the right to block any initiatives. joe biden. ahead of america are waiting for the presidential election, where the democrats can once again remain out of work. all this was the result of the economic crisis, which the democrats are trying to somehow weaken. we have a problem now europe deciding to further cut down on russian oil purchases there are many considerations. what can be done? it is even possible to continue buying oil, but at a limited price much lower. what is the market generating now? at

the same time, according to experts, the ceiling of prices for russian oil is unlikely to stabilize its price on the market; one should not expect obvious positive shifts in the economies of the european union and the united states whatever the price of oil, the crisis has already firmly entered people's lives. vasilievich , please tell me how significant the losses of the russian budget from the sanctions actions of western countries are, because in general, taking into account the situation, especially, but around inflation there already in the european union, we see that the key victim is rather the european union itself. so far, the budget losses are not very large, since we have an average price for natural gas, uh, which is seven times eight times higher than the average price that was ah in the past, therefore, with a huge

reduction in supplies, and natural gas to the european market . and now we are seeing a really serious reduction, there is an increase in supplies to china, which, to some extent, it replaces, but at the same time, the price of natural gas. e was extremely volatin. it reached about 3,000 dollars for 1,000 cubic meters in a 100 market. eh, now that's the price. well, e fell more than three times from the peak, but usually the price level was around 200.250 dollars, e-e for 1,000 cubic meters, and of course, with such a huge increase in gas prices. here, i completely agree with the russian political leaders that, to some extent, the european union, uh, shot itself in the foot with sanctions, and especially

germany. uh. here now the effect on the economy on the economy, in particular germany and other industrialized countries that were heavily dependent on e-russian supplies. energy resources are not only from russian ones, since gas is everywhere, uh, everywhere has grown enough. great it has led to significant growth. uh, electricity rates in europe as far as oil is concerned, it's a little more complicated here. we do not have a big reduction in the physical supply of oil, but as someone said before, we have a big discount. uh, today we have a brand price of about 88 today, and on urals 53. uh, that is, we have 35 dollars per barrel. uh, the discount for yursu is from yousu. uh, russian oil and gas revenues are still considered, and therefore

there will be a decrease here. uh, because our volumes have not decreased, but the average price has decreased for russia. we can say even up to now that, in fact, the rejection of cheap russian energy sources. the catcher plan will lead to the loss of competitiveness of the european union as an industrial center, and i think you are also watching how it gradually destroys its potential, which in the past was quite confident especially for the world economy, it is absolutely accurate to say that the introduction of these sanctions, and mutually the island hits both the russian federation and the european one. union it's bad, you can't say that sanctions are good for europe, this is a decrease in competitiveness. buy liquefied gas at market prices, it is much more expensive not to have long-term contracts and the stability of planning your economy to transfer your

energy, as they say, to the green zone and so on. it's always very bad today many productions. they are brought to north america for russia. nothing good in this regard either. absolutely right. today gas has come to such a normal price of real 800-700 dollars from 3,000. it was a speculative price. well, she almost wasn't three, mostly two. but it's still two and a half three times more. what was it like in the twentieth year. that is, this is a good price for the russian budget in the twentieth. it's actually 100 dollars. that is, the price is high. today, the price is high for oil. uh, with a huge discount and you need to understand what to diversify the supply of these 25% losses, and for gas and these discounts. uh, the infrastructure is very difficult, but it takes a long time to start up, you need to get a pipe there, and from there a pipe and pump it in there, you have to sell it. and you

give all your partners the opportunity to twist your arms in asia and you can’t buy at a huge discount, and china will demand a huge discount. and turkey will demand both a delay and a discount, so we must understand that a hybrid war is going on to raise our hands. we will not, uh, russia has a real resource. it is not simple ritual money. this is a resource that is in demand on the market, but the americans managed to create a problem for the russian federation, so we must clearly understand that there is a problem and that it cannot be quickly solved, in order to transfer e-flows to asia in the same china, india needs 5-7 years, in order to actually translate, to create this hub to turkey and, roughly speaking, redirect it there , it also takes years. it's not a month or a week. i want to draw your attention to, uh, the graph of budget revenues from oil and gas exports. this is what this picture looks like and, uh, igor please would like to hear your comment, therefore. first of all, it must be said that gas and oil

coals are slightly different situations, because it is more difficult to transport gas, because it is there, uh, that the main problems are to create an infrastructure for the transition to the asian markets . unfortunately, we still do not have our own technology for building large-capacity lng plants, that is, liquefaction plants, to be transported in tankers. and by the way, also tankers. we, unfortunately, are not yet building themselves there was an attempt to cooperate with south korea and south korean, and the companies there, we play, we don’t play, we help. in general, we fulfill contracts, but not in the far east, here is the version of the star for oil and coal, it is much easier to transport here, and in fact. we have already moved to the asian markets. since august 10, coal cannot be supplied to the european union; since december 5, oil cannot be delivered, that is, they go to asian markets. everything we have passed, but there really is a question. e in e the number of tankers. if we are talking about oil we say, but because this is the price ceiling, it's not about you can't buy

oil from russia, it's over $60 there. no, you can buy it at any price, both the european union and the americans. they say that there are no secondary sanctions for the buyer, but to transport it and insure this transportation. this is impossible. therefore, russia has a strategic task. now there is a sufficient volume of the fleet to collect in order to be able to bring in our own oil and not spend money on high freight rates, that is, the rental of these tankers and so on, the predicted crisis for which counted. yes, the so -called western partners, and the russian federation, they were clearly convinced that russia would not be able to withdraw so quickly, uh, given those problems and, again , the sanctions policy, but in the end, analysts, experts, people who are connected with the economy, of course, do their work quite effectively. and andrey vasilievich i want to ask you not only as an expert in the field of energy, but also as an experienced financier. here. what is the dynamics of the russian ruble against the dollar this year and pi. jester what russian against the backdrop of a reduction in oil

revenues, the cheap ruble is more profitable for the government. is it really so? well, indeed now the ruble is quite high today. eh, this de facto stimulates the growth of imports as much as possible, but the country and because. eh, now it is probably more profitable to restore just import supplies to the country. therefore, the very high exchange rate of the ruble, which today, which in turn stimulates just imports, and it is short-term, and the market is justified, and, and give out, but the question is that this is short-term long-term, of course, for the exporting country, and a more profitable cheap currency has its own for the development of domestic production and in this regard, of course, uh, i also think that today's

trade balance was skewed, and the short-term effect of these sanctions and and the trade balance will be restored, just last but not least, thanks to the very high exchange rate of the ruble, that is, it saves us now, it acts like a vacuum cleaner, it sucks in, and the goods are quite cool, imported. and this trade balance will be restored, but i still want to say on the previous question about one comment. i don't quite agree with the uh infrastructure issues. yes, of course, uh, the infrastructure in the application is much more difficult to create than oil and coal. but you and i have, uh, today, and the power of siberia, which is underfilled and which is now being filled all the time uh, that is, uh, uh 2 years ago, we supplied 5 billion cubic meters. i think it will. therefore, there will be more statistics. no, but i

think that there are about 25 billion cubic meters. we delivered this year, and 25 billion cubic meters is a large amount and most importantly, the fact that china every year is adding 30 billion dollars yes, 30 billion cubic meters of gas demand in the domestic market. e, china today is the largest vacuum cleaner, e natural gas in the world and in my opinion. it will continue to be so, and your obedient servant of the future lukoil, we predicted the demand for natural gas. in china, at the level of 30 years at the level of e, 700-800 billion cubic meters. then all the world's experts said it all sixty billion cubic meters. uh, demand for uh, the thirtieth year of today's demand. uh, china is already somewhere around 400 billion cubic meters, which grew into billions of cubic meters, 10 years ago. in other words, china has outgrown its domestic demand

, and roughly speaking, five germany. i would like to draw our viewers' attention to the schedule of exports of russian oil by sea by destination. we have such a list of countries at the moment, but i am also glad to welcome waldemar, the coat of arms of german businessmen, a former deputy of the german bundestag, waldemar, is already present in our program. thank you for being with us today, and now there are many they write that a warm winter has so far helped the european union avoid a deep energy crisis and blackouts, which many world analysts predicted this fall. tell me, please, what is the real situation in germany now, the main mood in german society, because we are well aware that the messages that the german government also relays do not always correspond to the thoughts that are

present in the minds of ordinary germans. it is clear that the presence of electricity does not mean it cheap. a really warm winter, to some extent, delayed the time from such a global collapse, er, that theory that the german government tried to put forward in our country full storage to calm the people. everything is fine. it is designed for simple amateurs who do not understand that last year we had full storage facilities and only with gas supplies. we could make it through the winter and live to see the next storage now full gas supplies have dwindled. it is clear that we will soon be faced with huge deficit. i think hope uh, our unfortunate rulers on what uh hmm industrial power. gas consumption is collapsing before our eyes, but it will certainly be

reduced, and this will allow it in some other way. preserve elementary human conditions, yes, so that we can wash ourselves with rags , as the government suggests, but i would like to touch on the most important issue that we very often issue in this connection. what is all this for? and who do we all understand that this is done by her staff. what does it do? that's all the main task is to destroy the solvency of 600 million people of the european union. we are now just in the role of a sacrificial lamb. and now we need to understand our strategists from the east, or we are now helping america to finish off europe to the end, or we, understanding the global nature of this process, will try to resist. but is it correct to say that

american companies have become the main recipients of the sanctions against russian oil exports ? sol de mar said this. that's exactly those energy companies that were on the verge of bankruptcy during the pandemic, and i mean the current situation. here, starting from a special us military provocation in europe . it's not extreme, a special russian military operation, that is, a special us military provocation in europe. they managed to culminate in the manipulation of the european union and managed to, uh, get the slavs to destroy each other. and at the same time, europe still has to pay for it today, what we have today. yes? uh, the german government claims that 91% filled storage. and why not be silent, that children in schools wear jackets, then by 15%, but have reduced household energy consumption. how much does fuel cost at gas stations? how much does ordinary sunflower oil and so on cost, that is, in fact, every month

today i paid for what was in these, but this is with the expectation of a warm winter. and if there was a slightly different temperature effect, then, and most importantly, the savings of german industry, that is, german manufacturers today are limited in energy consumption, but not only due to the fact restrictions on production, but also due to the withdrawal of their own production facilities to north america, that is, the americans are warming their hands on this crisis. they use us, and until european politicians turn on common sense . this may bring europe's strongest economy down. otherwise, they are used to talking to third world strangers as if they were natives. we give you beads in a different gold. today. they behave this way with the european union, that is, they have completely taken control of the political elite and are forcing ordinary citizens of the european union pay for their mistakes please show me, well, usually in such situations, sooner or later, anyway, people must come to the conclusion that

a particular player is a provocateur who is to this. and now he has brought european society. there is a desire that the one who is guilty of this be punished, or again all the dogs will go down and blame all the sins of the russian federation. although in the situation with the european union it is a little different. there is, of course, the protest potential is growing and someday it will be said that the king is naked. in in general, for this. of course, it is necessary, it is necessary to form that political force, which must pronounce this. the previous speaker correctly said that our personnel policy has been dictated for decades from across the ocean. and it is not at all accidental that people like elena berkova, and all the others that we now see in power, are the same macron. look what is happening to him, he went to america and asked so carefully. well, how can you offend us so much and

immediately a folder with his personal a case where he accuses and the prosecutor’s office brings charges against him, this is a technique, about which i have long said americans work with our politicians when you are with them or we are good in one, then there are hugs, straight ribs crack like this. as soon as we start talking carefully, listen, but this is not very reproachful to our interests. well, how do we protect you from russia, we saved you from fascism then with such terms won't go. you sell energy carriers four times cheaper by your enterprise. you put forward a program of subsidies and the promotion of transfer to you. it wo n't work like that, and then it immediately falls on the table, a folder there is a folder with documents for each of us . i don’t know when mine will lie on the

table there, but i’m sure that there are already a lot of volumes there, but because we are all people and now the macron, they will put him in a pose. yes , he cannot be tried as long as he is the president and has immunity. but as soon as the president will end. he will go to jail. the social conflict on the territory of the european union is practically impossible to bypass, because the critical mass of the population of discontent is very large gathered here and oh, we only need to try together so that we do not bury the state and peoples under these rubble. the topic of today's program is the cold oil and gas west vs. russia, i address my question to igor here's how you can evaluate the game of the leading trusteeship countries in the

current situation today, because, naturally, many in the west accuse saudi arabia of playing on the side of moscow but how true is this assessment in your opinion. i think that saudi arabia proceeds from its national interests, and in this regard, the european union proceeded from its national interests. yes, here are some players really colleague. he correctly says that, of course, discontent is growing, as long as it is socio-economic discontent, that is, people come out to all sorts of rallies. there, the trade unions are taking them out with a demand to raise wages and lower tariffs, but these are not yet political demands. and this, of course. uh, what is happening is catastrophic for germany, including for more than 50 years we have been supplying gas, uh, to europe in large volumes. barrel admits, he says, uh, the european economy, if modern europe is built at all, including one of the pillars of its economy, is the supply of hydrocarbons that are affordable both in terms of volume and price. e from the soviet union then from russia and admits that this pillar is now leaving and that the european union will not collapse uh, of course, here uh,

titanic changes are taking place. uh, if we're talking about custody plus, they understand too. uh what further after russia, they may be here, including this oil price ceiling for saudi arabia and other countries. uh , they understand that yes, today in russia he is experimenting, as it were. but if i recognize this experiment as successful and they will have the same one and these are not horror stories, because for gas it is in the european union and the gas price ceiling. he is not against russia, but against all suppliers at once against exchange trading, therefore , the same thing is against oil, perhaps, and saudi arabia also understands very well what if earlier, and the united states, as it were, was especially afraid to argue with them there. more precisely, because they were a major supplier, now less than a million barrels per day goes from behind saudi arabia to the united states , they themselves increased their production and will collect from other countries, and, accordingly, saudi arabia’s main supplier of e is now for china and the main about strategic competitor of the

united states, therefore, they understand that the united states from such an ally can be said to be the main fundamental one, but they are moving into a country that can create risks for you, and therefore, of course, they are also trying, in general, to diversify their foreign policy , interacting with russia, including yes, because our interests are in this area. in this case, they coincide in the oil sector, and therefore, probably, one can make such a forecast that, again, plus will not replace the volumes that russia is there now if it cuts production, and they will not notice this, because otherwise sanctions in the form of a ceiling . prices are recognized as successful and distributed to them. here you go, really. which european countries depend on. from russian gas imports let's take a look at our chart. here, in fact, we see here germany is included and data for certain players, but rather tragic, because what to replace all this with, in fact, no one has

found a solution and answers to this question yet, waldemar please tell me, what about the notorious green energy, if there are any prospects for its development, or even today, but the key players have forgotten about it. the very narrative of green energy, it was, well, such a fig a piece of paper to cover up their implementation of global plans to destroy the normal german economy. yesterday there was a discussion about the ban. uh, engines by well incineration and everyone understands. yes, no one is against electric vehicles, but they came before they were pushed through their market by obscenity, but purely fanatical. uh, ideological uh, the mood of a certain bunch of people today, an electric car refueling at a gas station produces more co2 er carbon dioxide, because we refuel with dirty

electricity. and everyone understands this in this insanity that drove us. this is ideological green. uh, propaganda or i don't know what to call these people. that is why i think that the direction, in general, to reduce the load on the planet is correct, but it cannot be done. it's fanatical. we know that all isms lead, if they dominate logic, they lead to cataclysms, and someone who is present uses an electric car. you see, a diesel bmw, but the question is there, i also want to say a few words about them. look at the americans manipulators, artificial in their time. they were able to negotiate with saudi arabia, brought down the oil and collapsed the union is one of the reasons. now they will be all of us , including russia, was the beneficiary of the fact that iranian oil and venezuelan oil were boys. and now, when we see

the speech of venezuelan politicians. they say, why when, uh, so we were under sanctions and were forced to trade in the shadows in the same iran, everyone used it today, they are ready today, no one is trading with guaido . guido talks. no will negotiate with the official government. button is talking about the iranian deal, and they will try to bring this oil to the market. and thereby squeeze out russian oil. we need to understand this, so here we need to be ready to be red scenarios for the development of the situation, including and including there will be and there will be no deal. god forbid that it does not happen, including will try to saudi arabia. something in any case, they are big buyers of saudi arabian oil and the number one oil producer. they just have a very large economy. and in principle, the united states is number one manufacturer is not in the world. well, really. i would also like to ask andrey vasilievich i can’t ask you, as a person who is deeply familiar with the problems of the ukrainian gas transportation system. now let's talk about the largest turkish

gas hub. well, what are its prospects. and it would seem that the answer is clear, just to remain a pile of scrap metal. but it seems to me that this is not always the case. it's simple, and the russian federation also has its own specific ones. plans and a specific possible decision regarding her future. it's very interesting and uh, we we understand that today the russian federation and today it supplies gas to europe, and somewhere 50 to 50 through the system of electricity, the turkish stream and the system of a single and system of the gas transportation system of ukraine that is, today the transport system of ukraine remains. well, in general, but the main e-supplier of the russian daza to the european market, while this is an e-system. naturally. this is my

pain, and as a person who was born in ukraine, uh, this is, uh, a fantastic system that was made back in the soviet union with a capacity of more than 200 billion, and cubic meters of gas are very complex and that's all that our fathers built, but unfortunately. indeed, now before our eyes it will turn into scrap metal. uh, and uh, ukraine could and did generate very large flows. uh for your budget right up. i would say up to 15-20%, and the revenues to the ukrainian budget were, to a large extent, from the gas transportation system of ukraine . e this gas transportation system. we're driving ourselves into a situation

when we were more dependent on turkey when the gas hub and now there trade is increasing. naturally. uh, the turkish stream is involved, there are two lines of 16 billion cubic meters each, which, uh, are now filling up more and more, uh, and then this gas goes through uh. bulgaria to serbia to western europe yes, i would like to draw the attention of the audience to the fact that despite the fierce fighting, under the same bakhmut and in other places, the ukrainian gts is functioning properly and not a single missile has flown into it at the moment i have flown in and can the pipe here andrey vasilyevich addressed this question to you to become one of the keys to peace, because now moscow and kiev are in many areas . after all, there are russian oilmen. it was possible to sharply increase oil exports in january after

the december failure. but it's still about finding the key to the world. maybe this will be a certain ground for dialogue. i think it can and should, but only when ukrainian politicians and businessmen will act in their own economic interests, and, uh, what happens when a system is destroyed that costs, uh, costs two of ukraine's gross domestic product before our eyes. and it just causes e some complete. uh, he certainly doesn't understand economics. so that's the answer to your question. uh, if uh ukrainian politicians and businessmen start to act more, uh, based on the economic interests of their own and their own country. yes, it can and should. thank you for the idea of ​​creating the

largest gas hub in turkey for supplying gas to europe, vladimir putin said in october already today, gazprom has started the practical implementation of the project. a detail not in our story, the project of a gas hub in turkey arose after a sabotage on the nord stream pipeline in september, a gas pipeline was blown up in the baltic sea, an epic accusing russia will begin soon that it was russia that blew up its gas pipeline so as not to supply gas to europe when europe starts to freeze, they will start talking to people there in europe that it is russia to blame, and so it happened european countries unanimously began to blame russia, apparently, huge damage, costly repairs and a reduction in gas supplies for the european union sounds very beneficial in russia, the situation was regarded otherwise as nord stream became unsafe, so an alternative was urgently needed. vladimir putin suggested that turkey create the largest gas hub on its territory, according to the plan, blue

fuel will be transferred there, which was supposed to go to europe through the baltic sea. it is there in defense that we will determine the final price for our european consumers, because that is what we brewed on our sites. uh, this is crazy the benefit for russia is obvious after the failure of two streams of gas supplies to europe have decreased, so the hub will not only increase sales volumes, but also minimize the risks of new supplies. after all, based on the geopolitical situation from future explosions. no one is insured and turkey will benefit in the first place. this is a great opportunity to create a powerful infrastructure and create new jobs. at the same time, turkey will also receive gas from azerbaijan and iran, which will help ankara become a powerful intermediary in the sale of blue fuel. we are ready for to cooperate on any issues related to gas pipelines and liquefied natural gas, in this regard, we are actively negotiating with many countries from central asia and

the mediterranean sea gazprom started the project as early as the end of december 2022 that, in addition to gazprom , suppliers from other countries can also become participants in the hub in turkey, and all further decisions on the project will be made during this year. well, i’ll ask my colleagues to display the map on the screen exactly like this blue stream turkish stream balkan stream. and now tell me, please, waldemar , it is widely believed that through the project of the turkish gas hub, russia in the average term will solve the issue of gas exports to europe, so you just have to use the services of intermediaries. however , what are the risks that the same europeans will find a way to limit russian profits in this project, for example, through the same gas price threshold. erdogan is a very uh, awkward negotiator

and uh, he's been on more than one occasion. uh, proved his originality and no no european thinking in general context, as we imagine it to be. eh, he won't let himself be blackmailed, and he won't. uh, take away the advantageous position of their country of their economy. no european officials should forget that turkey has stood in line for admission to the european union for 30 years, and they are all the time like this and this is now erdogan. now you are playing this card, you did n’t want us, well, now get it and he will play it. the only thing i don't want. we have already become dependent on him enough, for example, under post-maintenance immigrant flows. yes, we pay, there are 3 billion. the european council is 6 billion. so that supposedly it somehow restrained these flows, and

it played this card ambiguously by increasing prices. if he starts doing the same with gas, then we will not have much fun. we will not dictate, but he will dictate he does not have these uh, green ones. eh, moral boundaries or a house that we have hung for ourselves, but i would like to warn russia to depend on such a partner - this is also not the best way out, so diversify these processes. need to hard necessary. and in general, it is necessary to press the issue of repair, and two threads or three threads blown up in order to protect yourself. and please tell me, igor, how do you assess the prospects of a and the implementation of this project of the turkish gas hub. although you can already see that the united states of america is naturally dissatisfied with the baba yaga against you, you can already hear certain statements addressed to the turkish government. well, here, uh, it should be

noted that the project of gas hubs to turkey is rather forced. rather, it is a reaction. that's just on the actions of the european union and united states uh, roughly the logic is that you nationalize our gas pipelines. here's how gazprom's share, for example , in a gas pipeline. yamal europe the poles nationalized you are blowing up our gas pipelines on you used to put pressure on us uh, there in the form of a third energy package and they said that we have such antimonopoly legislation we can’t do anything we forbid you to use the full capacity of the pipe only half of it and this is the reaction . what well don't you want us to get inside you, like the eu before the final the consumer was delivered once you're doing all that . ok. let's go back 50 years to when we were transferring our gas abroad. uh, respectively, then the socialist bloc. first neutral country. that's when a gas hub was formed in austria bountner. that's where it all comes together. now, if you look further through this gas pipeline through hungary, it comes, just the same, to austria. but let

's return to the same situation, we will leave the first ones there, relatively speaking, to a neutral country. uh, at least she didn't impose sanctions against russia in turkey a further, the europeans themselves will have to take the money themselves to lay out money in the construction of gas pipelines across their territory. on , respectively, there, at least to austria , and so on, but for russia these are really risks, but because erdogan is understandable. he is, shall we say, a charismatic politician, but nonetheless. hey, idea too. what kind of gas hub will allow you to depersonalize e, gas. why would he come there? just the same, azerbaijani gas is iranian gas, they also talk about turkmen gas, but this is unlikely, but nevertheless, so that european companies whose want to trade with russia for more than 50 years for good reason. this trade existed everything was done. they can talk, but we take russia from her. we bought an exchange there at the hub, and and so on and so on , and the stake is on this, but also, but really here, uh, we must first negotiate with the european

companies themselves, because so far negotiations are only between russia and turkey a we will inevitably come to the conclusion that it will be necessary to conclude contracts or there. an additional agreement with the european business itself, so that it does not work out, so we'll build pipes there when we get there. uh, additional volume to turkey a. nobody will take it there. that is, in this regard, it is also necessary, but to behave very carefully. yes , andrey vasilyevich, we are talking about the turkish gas hype, oh, its prospects. what is your attitude to this and tell me. will europe be able to receive russian gas, only by a slightly different method. and it is possible that even if this happens, there will be people naturally dissatisfied with what is happening, which will most likely contribute to limiting russian profits, if such risks are in your opinion. today, russia has the capacity to supply about 50 billion cubic meters through turkey. this is a huge amount. it's more than what's going on today.

today, through ukraine and today , the potential is used, and it ’s 25 percent there, maybe a quarter or even less than a quarter of these opportunities. therefore, yes, of course, er, through er through turkey, russia can supply quite large volumes. today, the first second potential of the southern gas corridor, which has made turkey even more uh, that is, in general, indeed, this can be very uh, large, uh, large, and in transit, a large transit. uh, through turkey it's a pity. and that at one time bulgaria refused a direct connection eh so? uh, what has now become a turkish stream. it was generally bulgarian uh, and uh. i agree too. here with the previous speakers about the fact that especially waldemar that turkey is

not an easy negotiator, and if you have the opportunity to deliver e not through turkey, then it would probably be better to do it this way the last question will be concerned. e how what is happening will affect the price of gasoline and in the whole economy of belarus into one. so you think, well, i want to note that in any case, the effectiveness of any economy is determined by the ability to diversify imports and exports. and when you are forced to concentrate some nodes on imports, including in turkey, then your partner dictates discounts to you. your partner requires deferred payments. and it's not good either way. that is, this is a forced measure, and valdemar correctly says that the best option is to be able to use the two northern streams and even additionally. this infrastructure in turkey is an ideal option, but for this we must come to common sense in europe to ensure peace and the efficiency of the parties regarding belarus to us. our agreements at the level

of top officials at the government level, the understanding between business entities that what we are working today in the common market of the union state allow us to look more or less pragmatically optimistically into the future in the context of pricing for gas, oil products and crude oil , because already at 3 years we present what prices will we have for gas and oil. we understand what the prices will be. we understand that our refineries. incidentally, there is russian capital there, and it will be secured and loaded. in other words, in this regard, everything will be fine and prices will be adequate, allowing our enterprises to compete not only in the market of the union state, but also in the markets of these countries. thank you very much to the participants of the discussion for fresh analytics for an extremely intellectual conversation. in conclusion, i would like to note that the battle between russia and the west in the energy sector will continue, and after the end of the active phase of the war in ukraine, we

are talking about huge money, and there can be no compromises in the struggle for the european market. russia the united states of america direct competitors it was and until february 2022 it will continue to be so and it doesn’t matter on which side the moral rightness, as the writer jonah steinback said, you can’t fight against money without money, but now he is authorized to declare. in the energy war between the west and russia so far fighting draw

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