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i welcome you. this is a program for those who want to better understand the current world and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of everyone and the life of the country, and the main events of world politics this week. we will tell you right now the riots in brazil on january 8 supporters of the recent loser by a small margin, the same presidential election votes. ira was sonar captured the parliament and a number of other administrative buildings in the capital of the country by forces

security, easily coped with the protesters, and the army on the sympathy that the instigators counted on. remained true, the us constitution of the eu and other western countries. they took the side of the leftist politician lula, who recently took office as president, did not publicly support the rebellion and his former rival, who flew to the united states, but the brazilian government still accuses sonar of organizing an attempt to seize power by force and deliberately seeks his extradition from the united states poland continues insist on the payment of grandiose reparations to germany for the occupation during the second world war. berlin refuses to even discuss this issue, considering it settled along with the decision on the borders in the 1960s. however, in light of this year's parliamentary elections, the ruling nationalist law and justice party decided to bet on inciting anti-german sentiment to show the seriousness of its intentions

last week to the government. poland appealed to the us congress to provide pressure on the frg and force berlin to start negotiations on the amount of compensation for the crime of the nazis. china continues at a rapid pace. cancel the strict quarantine restrictions that have been in place for 3 years since last week, coming to the kiner. the foreigners were not obliged to go to the very isolation rather the presence of a negative patient. experts expect a quick restoration of international air traffic with china, including from belarus, the release of the chinese economy from the lockdown promises to give power, they say, to the growth of world gdp and also towards the end of 2023 to provoke an increase in energy prices. i want to report that the body of today's cold oil and gas program. who will win, russia or the west, as historians write, in 335

bc, the king of macedonia, philip, besieged a fortress in central greece when the officers reported to him that the fortress was on a hard-to -reach rock and it would not be possible to take it, he answered. is it so, it is difficult to access, so that the donkey loaded with gold does not pass, and we understand that the entire history of mankind war won not so much with weapons. how much money, without which this weapon cannot exist, this is especially true for the current battle between the west and russia, the outcome of which depends on the economy even more than on the situation on the front line in the donbass, we talk about this in more detail in our program to understand the ups and downs of the energy confrontation moscow and washington will help me. vadim borovik political scientist, hello, good afternoon igor yushkov leading analyst of the national energy security fund expert financial university under the government of the

russian federation hello hello, i am glad to welcome andrey vasilievich and damako to our program. hello well, by tradition, we start our program with a blitz millet, i address it to each guest. please tell us how much, in your opinion, a barrel of brand oil will cost by the end of 2023, of course, it is difficult, but to predict, but to provide certain analytics for our respected viewers. i think you can get one. let's mean no one will give you a forecast for sure. there is a very serious variability depending on a number of factors. on how quickly china will get out of the lockdown , on how much recession will be and whether it will be observed in the global economy? where are the leading buyers of energy resources, how much russia will be able to build logistics and, most importantly , ensure payments for its energy resources, and plus

. uh, what discounts will she be forced to provide. and this is what will play. uh, role, so uh important for russian federation today, to a greater extent, so that the price of oil and gas does not fall below the limit that provides , uh, the minimum well, the minimum federal budget deficit. this is the most important task andrey vasilievich please i want to hear your opinion. 90 plus thank you succinctly. yes, igor, well, i agree that here, indeed, the price will probably be higher at the end of the year than it is now, but throughout the year, indeed, it will rather change. here is the first half. probably still. it will be pretty tense. uh, the period there is already valid and china has at least announced the lifting of quarantine measures, but has not yet finally increased it. we can say the volume of consumption, that is, the effect, it is the oil market. we still don’t see it to the end, on the other hand, there is indeed a decline in economic

activity due to the fact that both the us and the eu raised rates, and the central bank of the fed puts pressure on the price. and so in the second half of the year. i think that there will be a period of recovery in china and economic activity. uh, in the western countries will increase. well, if again the question is, how much will the price be on the world market and what will be the russian one ? also in the twenty-third. she is also in the second half of the year. e will decrease and decrease. you heard the permission to show in more detail to discuss the dynamics chart, oil prices, please, colleagues. this is how she looks. we roughly understand that the first month. here's one that's no different in 2023 the price of oil, which was already at the end of 2020 the second, that is, this jump was in the past and is now more or less going up,

the price of oil, but again, such judging from your answer. igor then, there are some cardinal jerks, yes or they don’t observe decays. well, uh, here it is important to note that there are factors that put pressure on the price, push it down, and this is primarily, uh, that general economic factor, let's say, because in the twenty-second year due to the fact that energy, in in principle was expensive but developed inflation in hydrocarbon importing countries a and europe in the united states and they all raised the rate and the fed the european central bank in order to overcome this inflation, but this leads to the fact that economic activity slows down, so less oil is needed, but the fundamental factor that , in principle, created here is the condition of high energy prices. this is not additional funding, many years of underinvestment in the industry. he remains nowhere, and in the twenty-second year, too, there was not enough investment for in order to cover the deficit, ah, so this fundamental factor, it will still keep the prices of oil, gas, and coal at a high level. well, i would like to

note, but russia's ban on the sale of its oil to countries that have set a price ceiling for its raw materials. it is the eu g7 countries and australia will cause significant price increases. this statement was made by a commodity market analyst at hendel's banking. christian hopper and coffee explains the previous large volumes of oil purchases from russia by economic expediency now that to take this raw material, you will have to pay somewhere else. more will have to be done, however , koffor's biggest concern is russia's intention to cut oil production and, in his opinion, a combination. no, produced volumes with the gradual return of the chinese economy. it can significantly raise world oil prices to its previous state, but more about this in our story, following the european union, the g7 countries and australia introduced a ceiling on russian oil prices, the statement was made public immediately after the eu

could agree on the cost of black gold at the level of $60 per barrel, if oil becomes cheaper, the price limit will be revised and become 5% below the market value of the ceiling. the price is pursuing goals, firstly, it strengthens the effect of our sanctions. secondly, it will further reduce russia's revenues and thirdly, it will simultaneously stabilize world energy markets, as some grades of russian oil. now it will be possible to purchase, including in the european union, resell and transport to a third country. provided that the price remains below the ceiling. russia's response was immediately followed by foreign minister sergei lavrov, who said that moscow is not interested in what exactly the restrictions on oil will be, since russia will negotiate with partners, vladimir putin has already directly signed a decree that prohibits oil supplies to those strange and companies that use the price ceiling ban will take effect from the first of february and will be valid until at least the first of july, even if they get

it down. and investments will be reduced to zero. prices will skyrocket eventually and they will hit those who offer such solutions. so who actually benefits from the price ceiling, first of all, cost restrictions are actually an easing of anti-russian sanctions, because back in the summer the eu tried to agree on a complete ban on oil imports from russia and the main initiator of the ceiling steel us washington fears a sharp rise in oil prices further acceleration of inflation and exacerbation of the global economic crisis. in the event of the instant disappearance of millions of barrels of russian fuel from the world market. since the country has only recently held congressional elections, where the republicans won the majority of seats in the house of representatives and the right to block any initiatives. joe biden. ahead of america are waiting for

the presidential election, where the democrats can once again remain out of work. all this was the result of the economic crisis, which the democrats are trying to somehow weaken. we have a problem now europe deciding to further cut down on russian oil purchases there are many considerations. what can be done? it is even possible to continue buying oil, but at a limited price much lower. what is the market generating now? at the same time, according to experts, the ceiling of prices for russian oil is unlikely to stabilize its price on the market; one should not expect obvious positive shifts in the economies of the european union and the united states whatever the price of oil, the crisis has already firmly entered people's lives. vasilyevich , please tell me how significant the russian budget is from the sanctions actions of the western countries, because in general, taking into account the situation especially, and around inflation there we already see the european union, that the key victim, rather, was the world,

the european union website so far, budget losses are not very large, since we have an average price for natural gas, uh, which is 7-8 times higher than the average price that was, uh, in the past, therefore with a huge reduction in supplies, and natural gas by e. european market. and now we are seeing a really serious reduction, there is an increase in supplies to china, which, to some extent, it replaces, but at the same time, the price of natural gas. e was extremely volatile. she came to about $3,000 for 1,000 cubic meters on the satellite market. eh, now that's the price. well, it fell , uh, more than three times from the peak, but the usual

price level was around 200.250 dollars uh for 1,000 cubic meters, and of course, with such a huge increase in gas prices. here i completely agree, and with the russian political leaders that, to some extent, the european union shot itself in the leg with sanctions, and especially germany, here now the effect on the economy on the economy, in particular germany and other industrial developed countries that largely dependent on e russian supplies. energy resources are not only from russian ones, since it will succeed everywhere, er, everywhere it has grown enough. great it has led to significant growth. uh, electricity rates in europe as far as oil is concerned, it's a little more complicated here. we do not have a big reduction in the physical supply of

oil, but as someone said before, we have a big discount. uh, today we have a brand price of about 88 today, and 53 on urals. uh, that is, we have 35 dollars per barrel. uh, yorsu discount it is from yousu, uh, that russian oil and gas revenues are still considered, and therefore there will be a decrease here. uh, because our volumes have not decreased, but the average price has decreased for russia. we can already assert up to now that, in fact, the rejection of cheap russian energy sources. in greek terms, it will lead to the loss of competitiveness of the european union as an industrial center, and i think you are also already watching how it gradually destroys its potential, which in the past was quite confident, especially for the world

economy, it is absolutely certain that the introduction of these sanctions, but mutually sharply hits both the russian federation and the european union. it is bad to say that sanctions are good for europe, this is a decrease in competitiveness. buy liquefied gas at market prices, it is much more expensive not to have long-term contracts and the stability of planning your economy to transfer your energy, as they say, to the green zone and so on. it's always bad. today, many production facilities are being exported to the northern america for russia nothing good in this regard either. absolutely true today. gas came at such a normal price of real 800-700 dollars from 3,000. it was a speculative price. well, she almost wasn't three, mostly two. but it's still two and a half three times more. what was it like in the twentieth year. that is, this is a good price for the russian budget in the twentieth. it's actually 100 dollars. that is, the price is high today, the main

big e for oil. uh, the discount is huge and you need to understand that diversifying supplies these 25% losses, and for gas and these discounts. uh, the infrastructure is very difficult, but it takes a long time to start up, you need to bring a pipe there, and from there a pipe and pump it in there and sell it. and you give all your partners the opportunity to twist your arms in asia, and india buys at a huge discount, and china will demand a huge discount. and turkey will demand both a delay and a discount, so we must understand that a hybrid war is going on to raise our hands. we will not, uh, russia has a real resource. it is not simple ritual money. this is a resource that is in demand on the market, but the americans managed to create a problem for the russian federation, so we must clearly understand that there is a problem and that it cannot be quickly solved, in order to transfer e-flows to asia in the same

china, india needs 5-7 years, in order to actually translate, to create this hub to turkey and, roughly speaking, redirect it there , it also takes years. it's not a month or a week. i want to draw your attention to, uh, the graph of budget revenues from oil and gas exports. this is what this picture looks like and, uh, igor please would like to hear your comment, therefore. first of all, it must be said that the situation with gas, oil and coal is slightly different, because it is more difficult to transport gas, because it is there, uh, that the main problems are to create an infrastructure for the transition to the asian markets. unfortunately, we still do not have our own technology for the construction of large-capacity lng plants, that is, combustion plants, to be transported in tankers. and by the way, also tankers. we, too, unfortunately, are not yet building ourselves, there was an attempt to cooperate with south korea and south korean, and the companies there, we play, then we don’t play, then we help. in general, we fulfill contracts, but not in the far east, here is the version of the star for oil and coal,

it is much easier to transport here, and in fact. we have already moved to the asian markets. since august 10, coal cannot be supplied to the european union; since december 5 , oil cannot be delivered, that is, they go to asian markets. everything we have passed, but there really is a question. e in e the number of tankers. if we are talking about oil, but because this is the price ceiling, this is not about you can't buy oil from russia, it's over $60 there. no, you can buy it at any price, both the european union and the americans. they say that there are no secondary sanctions for the buyer, but to transport it and insure this transportation. this is impossible. therefore, russia has a strategic task. now enough fleet volume has been collected in order to be able to bring our own oil and not spend money on high freight rates, that is, the lease of these tankers and so on, the predicted crisis that they were counting on. yes, the so-called western partners, and the russian federation, they were clearly convinced that russia would not be able to leave so quickly, uh, given

those problems and, again, the sanctions policy, but in the end, analysts, experts, people who are connected with the economy, of course, do their job quite effectively. and andrey vasilievich i want to ask you not only as an expert in the field of energy, but also as an experienced financier. here. what is the dynamics of the russian ruble against the dollar this year and pi. the joke is that the russian government, against the backdrop of a reduction in oil revenues, is more profitable than a cheap ruble. so does it really? well, indeed now the ruble is quite high today. eh, this de facto stimulates the growth of imports into the country as much as possible and since. eh, now it is probably more profitable to restore just import supplies to the country. therefore, the very high exchange rate of the ruble, which today, which in turn stimulates just

imports, and it is justified in the short term and the market is justified, and e and give out. but the question is that this is a short-term long-term long-term, of course, for the exporting country, and more profitable cheap currency of its own for the development of domestic production and in this regard, of course, uh, i also think that today's trade balance was skewed, and the short-term effect of these sanctions and and the trade balance will be restored, just not least, thanks to the very high exchange rate of the ruble, that is, it saves us now and acts like a vacuum cleaner. she sucks. uh, the goods themselves are quite healthy for imports. and this trade balance will be restored, but i still want to say on the previous question about one comment. i don't quite agree with the infrastructure issues. yes, of course, uh, infrastructure in real gas takes

much longer to build than oil and coal. but you and i have, uh, today, the power of siberia , which is underfilled and which is now constantly being filled. ah, that is, uh, uh, uh 2 years ago, we supplied 5 billion cubic meters. i think it will. therefore, i will give more statistics. no, but i think that there are about 25 billion cubic meters. this year we delivered 25 billion cubic meters, which is a large amount. and most importantly, the fact that china each year adds 30 billion dollars and 30 billion cubic meters, yes, for domestic demand, and china today is the largest vacuum cleaner, e natural gas in the world and in my opinion. it will continue to be so, and your obedient servant of the future lukoil, we predicted the demand for natural gas. in

china, at the level of 30 years at the level of e, 700-800 billion cubic meters. then all the world's experts said this was sixty billion cubic meters. uh, demand for uh, the thirtieth year of today's demand. uh, china is already somewhere around 400 billion cubic meters, which has grown from hundreds of billions cubes, 10 years ago. in other words, china has outgrown its domestic demand, and roughly speaking, five germany. i would like to draw our viewers' attention to the schedule of exports of russian oil by sea by destination. we have such a list of countries at the moment, but i am also glad to welcome waldemar, the coat of arms of german businessmen, a former deputy of the german bundestag, waldemar, is already present in our program. thank you for being with us today, and now they write a lot that the warm winter has helped so far

the european union to avoid the deep energy crisis and blackouts that many world analysts predicted this fall. tell me, please, what is the real situation in germany now, the main mood in german society, because we are well aware that the messages that the german government also relays do not always correspond to the thoughts that are present in the minds of ordinary germans. it is clear that the presence of electricity still does not mean its cheapness. really warm winter to some extent delayed time from such a global collapse, er, that theory that the german government tried to put forward in our country full storage to calm the people. everything is fine. it is designed for simple amateurs who do not understand that last year we had full storage facilities and only with gas supplies. we could make it

through the winter and live to see the next storage now full gas supplies have dwindled. it is clear that we will soon face a huge deficit. i think hope our unfortunate rulers on what a hmm industrial power. it is collapsing before our eyes gas consumption. uh, it will certainly be reduced and it will allow in some other way. preserve elementary human conditions, yes, so that we can wash ourselves with rags , as the government suggests, but i would like to touch on the most important issue that we very often issue in this connection. what is all this for? and by whom do we all understand that this is done by her staff. what does it do? that's it the main task is destruction of the solvency of 600 million people of the european union we are now just in the

role of a sacrificial lamb. and now we need to understand our strategists from the east, or we are now helping america to finish off europe to the end, or we, understanding the global nature of this process, will try to resist. is it correct to say that american companies have become the main beneficiaries of the sanctions against russian oil exports? that's how sable de mar stated. these are the energy companies that during the period pandemics were on the verge of bankruptcy, and that is the current situation of this whole scheme. so, starting from a special us military provocation in europe. this is some non -special, russian military operation, this is a special us military provocation in europe. they managed to culminate in the manipulation of the european union and managed to, uh, get the slavs to destroy each other. and at the same time,

europe still has to pay for it today, what we have today. yes? uh, the german government says it's 91% full. and what not to be silent, what children wear in schools jackets then that by 15%, but reduced the household electricity consumption. how much does fuel cost at gas stations? how much does ordinary sunflower oil and so on cost, that is, in fact, every german today paid for what was still in these, but this is with the expectation of a warm winter. and if there was a slightly different temperature effect, then, and most importantly, the savings of german industry, that is, german manufacturers today. they limited energy consumption, but not only due to the limitation of production, but also for due to the withdrawal of their own production facilities to north america, that is, the americans are warming their hands on this crisis. they use us, and until european politicians turn on common sense. this may bring europe's strongest economy

down. otherwise, they are used to talking to third world strangers like natives. we give you beads in a different gold. today. they behave this way with the european union, that is, they have completely taken control of the political elite and are forcing ordinary citizens of the european union to pay for the mistakes of their european ones. tell please, well, usually in such situations, sooner or later, anyway, people must come to the conclusion that a particular player is a provocateur who is to this. and now he has brought european society. there is a desire that the one who is guilty of this be punished, or again all the dogs will be blamed for all the sins of the russian federation. although in the situation with the european union it is a little different. there is, of course, the protest potential is growing and someday it will be said that the king is naked. in general, for this. of course you have to, you have to to form another political uh, force that should pronounce it. the previous

speaker correctly said that our personnel policy has been dictated for decades from across the ocean. and it is not at all accidental that people like elena berkova, and all the others that we now see in power, are the same macron. we look at what is happening to him, he went to america and asked so carefully. well, how can you offend us like that, and immediately a folder with his personal file lay on the table , where he accuses the prosecutor's office brings accusations against him, this is a technique, about which i have long said the americans are working with our politicians. and then when you are with them or we are well in one, there are hugs, such ribs crack like that. as soon as we start talking carefully, listen, but this is not very reproachful to our interests. well, how do we protect you from russia, we saved you from fascism then with

such terms won't go. you sell energy carriers four times cheaper by your enterprise. you put forward a program of subsidies and the promotion of transfer to you. it wo n't work like that, and then it immediately falls on the table, a folder there is a folder with documents for each of us . i don’t know when mine will lie on the table there, but i’m sure that there are already a lot of volumes there, but because we are all people and now the macron, they will put him in a pose. yes , he cannot be tried as long as he is the president and has immunity. well, as soon as the president will end. he will go to jail social conflict on the territory of the european union is almost impossible to bypass, because the critical mass of the population of discontent. there is a very large concentration here, and let's just all of us try together so that

we do not bury the state and peoples under these rubble. the sas program is authorized to announce the topic of today's program cold oil and gas west vs. russia, i address my question to igor many in the west accuse saudi arabia of playing on the side of moscow. but how accurate is this assessment in your opinion. i think that saudi arabia proceeds from its national interests, and in this regard, the european union proceeded from its national interests, which the players are really a colleague. he correctly says that , of course, discontent is growing, as long as it is socio-economic discontent, that is, people come out to all sorts of rallies. there, the trade unions take them out with a demand to raise wages and lower tariffs, but this is not political demands. of course. uh, what is happening is catastrophic for

germany, including we have been supplying gas for over 50 years. uh, to europe in large volumes and even a barrel. the european economy, if modern europe is built at all, including one of the pillars of the economy, is the supply of hydrocarbons available both in terms of volume and price from the soviet union, then from russia and recognizes that this table is now leaving and that it will not collapse, the european union of course, here to change titanic e occurs. e. if we say propek plus, then they understand too. and what next after russia can they be, including this oil price ceiling for saudi arabia and other countries. uh, they understand that yes, today in russia, he is, as it were, experimenting. but if this experiment is recognized as successful and they will have the same one. and these are not horror stories, because in terms of gas it is in the european union and the gas price ceiling. he is not against russia , but against all suppliers at once against exchange trading, and therefore against

oil is the same, maybe, but saudi arabia also understands perfectly well that if earlier, and the united states, as it were, was afraid to argue with them or quarrel with them. because they used to be a big supplier, now less than a million barrels a day goes from behind saudi arabia to the united states. they themselves have increased their production and will collect from other countries, uh, respectively, saudi arabia is the main supplier of e now for china and the main strategic competitor of the united states, therefore, they don’t understand, that the united states, from such an ally, can be said to be the main fundamental one, but is moving to a country that can create risks for you, and therefore, of course, they are also trying, in general, to diversify their foreign policy, interacting with russia, including, but because our interests in this area in this case, but in the oil sector they coincide, and therefore, probably, we can make such a forecast that again, plus will not replace these volumes that russia is there now, if it reduces production, and they will not notice this, because otherwise e sanctions in

kind of ceiling. prices are recognized as successful and distributed to them. well, really. which european countries depend on it's russian gas here pay attention to our chart. here, in fact, we see that it is included here, germany and data for certain players, but rather tragic, because what to replace all this with, in fact, no one, and so far , waldemar has not found a solution and answers to this question, please tell me, what about with the notorious green energy, if there are any prospects for its development, either today, and the key the players, uh, forgot about it. the very narrative of green energy, it was such a fig leaf to cover up their implementation of global plans to destroy the normal german economy. yesterday there was a discussion about the ban. uh, engines by well incineration and everyone understands. yes, no one is against

electric vehicles, but they came before they were pushed through their market by obscenity, but purely fanatical. uh, ideological uh, the mood of a certain bunch of people today, an electric car, refueling at a gas station , produces more co2 e carbon dioxide, because we run on dirty electricity. and everyone understands this in this insanity that has driven us. this is ideological green. uh, propaganda or i don't know what to call these people. that is why i think that the direction, in general, to reduce the load on the planet is correct, but it cannot be done. it's fanatical. we know that all isms lead, if they dominate logic, they lead to cataclysms, and someone who is present uses an electric car.

you see, a diesel bmw, but the question is i also want to say a few words about them. look at the americans manipulators, artificial in their time. they were able to negotiate with saudi arabia, brought down the oil and collapsed the union is one of the reasons. now they will be all of us. russia, including, was the beneficiary of the fact that iranian oil and venezuelan oil were tsyntsy. and now, when we see the speech of venezuelan politicians. they say, why when, uh, so we were under sanctions and had to trade in the shadows in the same iran, everyone used it today, they ready and today no one leads with guaido. guido talks. no will negotiate with the official government. button is talking about the iranian deal, and they will try to bring this oil to the market. and thereby squeeze out russian oil. we need to understand this, so here we need to be ready to be red scenarios for the development of the situation, including a deal, and there will be and there will be no deal. god forbid that it does not happen, including will try to saudi arabia,

that in any case they are major buyers oil of saudi arabia and the number one oil producer. they just have a very large economy. in principle, the united states is the number one oil producer in the world. well, i would really like to ask andrey vasilyevich, as a person who is deeply familiar with the problems of the ukrainian gas transportation system. now let's talk about the largest turkish gas hub. well, what are its prospects. and it would seem that the answer is clear, just to remain a heap of metal. but it seems to me that this is not always the case. it's simple and right there the russian federation has its own specific ones. plans and specific possible solutions regarding its future this is very interesting and, uh, we understand that today the russian federation and today supplies gas to europe, but somewhere 50

to 50 through the system of e, the turkish stream and the system of the unified gas transport system of ukraine to there is today will give the transport system of ukraine remains. well, in general, but the main e-supplier of the russian daza to the european market, while this is an e-system. naturally. this is my pain, but as a person who was born in ukraine, uh, this is, uh, a fantastic system that was made back in the soviet union, which, with a capacity of more than 200 billion cubic meters of gas, is very complex and that's all that our fathers built, but unfortunately. it can be seen that now before our eyes it will turn into scrap metal. uh, and uh, ukraine could and did generate very large flows. uh for your budget right up. i would say up to

15-20%, and the income to the ukrainian budget was, to a large extent, from the gas transportation system of ukraine , but ukraine, of course, shoots about itself in step now with what it destroys. e this gas transportation system. we are driving ourselves into a situation when we were more dependent on turkey, when the zava-haba and now trade is increasing there. naturally. uh, the turkish stream is involved, there are two lines of 16 billion cubic meters each, which, uh, are now increasingly filled, uh, and then this gas goes through uh. bulgaria to serbia to western europe yes , i would like to draw the attention of the audience to the fact that despite the fierce fighting, under the in bakhmut and in other places, the gas transportation system of ukraine

is functioning properly and not a single rocket is fired at it at the moment. i flew in and can the pipe here andrey vasilyevich address this question to you to become one of the keys to peace, because now moscow and kiev are in many areas. this is preserved , but it is here that some constructive, in a relationship. after all, there are russian oilmen. it was possible to sharply increase oil exports in january after the december failure. but it's still about finding the key to the world. maybe this will be a certain ground for dialogue. i think, can and should, but only when ukrainian politicians and businessmen act in their own economic interests, and uh what happens when a system is destroyed that costs uh, that costs two of ukraine's gross domestic product before our eyes . and it just

causes e some complete. eh, economic certainly not understanding. so the answer to your question. uh, if uh ukrainian politicians and businessmen start to act more, uh, based on the economic interests of their own and their own country. yes, it can and should be thank you for the idea of ​​creating the largest gas hub in turkey for supplying gas to europe vladimir putin said in october that gazprom has already started the practical implementation of the project. the detail is not in our story, the project of a gas hub in turkey arose after a sabotage on the nord stream pipeline in september, a gas pipeline was blown up in the baltic sea, an epic accusations against russia will begin soon that it was russia that blew up the gas pipeline, so as not to supply gas to europe when europe starts to freeze, they will start talking to people in europe that it is russia's fault,

and so it happened european countries unanimously began to blame russia, apparently, huge damage, costly repairs and a decrease in gas supplies for the european union sounds very beneficial in russia, the situation was regarded otherwise nord stream became unsafe, so an alternative was urgently needed . vladimir putin suggested that turkey create the largest gas hub on its territory, according to the plan, blue fuel will be transferred there, which was supposed to go to europe through the baltic sea. namely, there in defense degree. we will determine the final price for our european consumers, because the fact that they are on their sites is insane minimize the risks of new deliveries. after all, based on the geopolitical situation from future explosions. no one is insured and turkey will benefit

in the first place. this is a great opportunity to create a powerful infrastructure and the emergence new jobs. at the same time, turkey will also receive gas from azerbaijan and iran, which will help ankara become a powerful intermediary in the sale of blue fuel. we are ready to cooperate on any issues related to gas pipelines and liquefied natural gas, in this regard, we are actively negotiating with many countries from central asia to the mediterranean sea gazprom started the project at the end of december 2022 that in addition to gazprom , turkish hubs can become participants suppliers from other countries, and all further decisions on the project will be made during this year. well, i’ll ask my colleagues to display a map on the screen, this is exactly what the blue stream looks like, the turkish stream, the balkan stream. and now tell me, please, waldemar, it is widely believed that through the project of the turkish gas hub, russia in the

average term will solve the issue of gas exports to europe, so you just have to use the services of intermediaries. however , what are the risks that the same europeans will find a way to limit russian profits in this project, for example, through the same gas price threshold. erdogan is a very uh, awkward negotiator and uh, he's been on more than one occasion. e, has proved its originality and not non-european thinking in the general context, as we assume it to ourselves. eh, he won't let himself be blackmailed, and he won't. uh, take away the advantageous position of their country of their economy. no european officials should forget that turkey has stood in line for admission to the european union for 30 years, and they are all the time like this and this is now

erdogan. now playing this card you us didn't want to. well, now get it, and he will win it back. the only thing i don't want. we have already become dependent on it enough, for example, here is the late curbing of immigrant flows. yes, we pay 3 billion there. the european union, 6 billion so that it supposedly somehow restrains these flows. he ambiguously played this card increasing prices. if he starts doing the same with gas, then we will not have much fun. we will not dictate, but he will dictate he does not have these uh, green, uh, moral boundaries or the house that we have for ourselves they hung, but i would like to warn russia to depend on such a partner - this is also not the best way out, so diversify these processes. need to be hard . and in general, it is necessary to press the issue of repair, and two threads or three threads

blown up in order to protect yourself. and please tell me, igor, how do you assess the prospects of a and the implementation of this project of the turkish gas hub. although you can already see that the united states of america is naturally dissatisfied with the baba yaga against you already certain statements against the turkish the government is heard. well, it should be noted here that the project of gas hubs to turkey is rather forced. rather, it is a reaction. that's just on the action of the european union and the united states uh, approximately the logic is such that you will nationalize our gas pipelines. here's how gazprom's share, for example, in a gas pipeline. poles have nationalized yamal europe, you are blowing up our gas pipelines. and before that, you put pressure on us , uh, there in the form of a third energy package and you said that we have such antimonopoly legislation, we can’t do anything we forbid you to use the full power of the pipe only half on and this is the reaction. what well, you don't want us to get

inside you, how would the european union be delivered to the end consumer since you do all this okay let's go back 50 years ago, when we transferred our gas abroad. uh, respectively, then the socialist bloc. first neutral country. that's when a gas hub was formed in austria bountner. that's where it all comes together. now, if you look further through this gas pipeline through hungary, it comes, just the same, in austria. here, let's get back to this situation, we will leave the first, relatively speaking, neutral countries there. uh, at least she did not impose sanctions against russia and in turkey and then the europeans themselves will have to take the money themselves to lay out money in the construction of gas pipelines on their territory. on , respectively, there, at least as far as austria , and so on, but for russia these are really risks. ah, because erdogan is understandable. he is, shall we say, a charismatic politician, but nonetheless. hey, idea too. what is a gas hub will depersonalize e, gas. why would he come there? just the same, azerbaijani

gas is iranian gas, they also talk about turkmen gas, but this is unlikely, but, nevertheless, european companies that want to trade with russia have not been in vain for more than 50 years. this is trade. they did everything officially, they can speak, and we take russia from her. we bought an exchange there at the hub, and and so on and in this regard, and the stake is on this, but also, but really here, uh, we must first negotiate with the european companies themselves, because while the negotiations are going on only between russia and turkey. and we will inevitably come to the conclusion that it will be necessary to conclude contracts or there. an additional agreement with the european business itself, so that it doesn’t work out, so we’ll build pipes there when we get there. uh, additional volume to turkey a. nobody will take it there. that is, in this regard, it is also necessary, but to behave very carefully. yes , andrey vasilyevich, we are talking about the turkish gas hype, oh, its prospects. what is your attitude to this and tell me. will europe be able to receive russian gas, only a little ? by a different method. and it is possible that even if this

happens, there will be people naturally dissatisfied with what is happening, which will most likely contribute to limiting russian profits, if such risks are in your opinion. today, russia has the capacity to supply about 50 billion cubic meters through turkey. this is a huge amount. it's more than what's going on today. e today through ukraine and today the involved potential. ah. he 's 25 percent there, maybe a quarter. i have even less than a quarter of these opportunities, so yes, naturally, uh, through uh through turkey russia can supply quite large volumes. today, the first and second potential of the southern gas corridor, which made it even greater for turkey. ah, that is, in general, indeed, it can be

very uh, big uh big, but in transit a big transit. uh, through turkey it's a pity. and that at one time bulgaria refused a direct connection eh so? uh, what has now become a turkish stream. it was generally bulgarian uh, and uh. i agree too. here with previous speakers about the fact that especially waldemar that turkey is not a simple negotiator and if you have the opportunity to deliver not through turkey, then it would probably be better to do just that the last question will concern. and how what is happening will affect the prices of gasoline and the economy of belarus as a whole. so you think, well, i want to note that in any case, the effectiveness of any economy is determined by the ability to diversify imports and exports. and when you are forced to concentrate some nodes on imports and exports, including in turkey, then you are your partner

dictates discounts. your partner requires deferred payments. and it's not good either way. that is, this is a forced measure, and valdemar correctly says that the best option is to be able to use the two northern streams and even additionally. rating the infrastructure in turkey is ideal , but for this we must come to common sense in europe to ensure peace and order, the performance of the parties regarding belarus to us. uh, our agreements at the level of top officials at the level of governments, understanding between business entities, that what we are working on today in the common market of the union state allows us to look more or less pragmatically optimistically into the future in the context of pricing for gas oil products and crude oil, because already for 3 years we have been imagining what prices we will have for gas and oil. we understand what the prices will be. we understand that our refineries. incidentally, there is russian capital there, and it will be loaded. that is, in this

regard, everything will be fine and the prices will be adequate, allowing our enterprises compete not only in the market of the union state, but also in the markets of these countries. many thanks to the participants in the discussion for fresh analytics for an extremely intellectual conversation. in conclusion, i would like to note that the battle between russia and the west in the energy sector will continue, and after the end of the active phase of the war in ukraine, we are talking about huge money, and there can be no compromises in the struggle for european market. russia the united states of america direct competitors it was and until february 2022 it will continue to be so and it does not matter on whose on the side of moral rightness, as the writer jonah steinberg said, you cannot fight against money without money, but now i am authorized to declare. in the energy war between the west

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