over time, we switched to two internships a year for 20 people, and after the pandemic, when everyone got bored and everyone was eager to just come to our beautiful belarus, we switched to 30 people and it was not enough and this year we switched to the number 40. so nevertheless, the queue is already lining up for the next haircut, because there are a lot of people who want such events, the program is filled this year, in particular this year. uh, naturally, since until the year of historical memory we visited the trostenets memorial memorial, where we laid flowers interesting tour and so many emotions. she called our compatriots, because indeed the belarusian peoples suffered greatly during the great patriotic war, they know about it and, even being here, if alla probably tells about it, there is an interesting museum where they talked about the jewish genocide. eh, there are a lot of such moments in the population, and for the first time we took our trainees of the world, if, because usually we tried to nourish them with such an authentic belarusian culture. we were leaving

to the regions, of course, travel to this creative internship, too. of course, there are in the regions where they meet with grannies who are carriers of authentic belarusian culture. and where they teach, household dances watch, for example, some old recipes of the national belarusian cuisine. well, here they were simply amazed by the beauty of our castles, both the world and nesvizh plunged into this belarusian culture, into this direction of our belarusian history, belarusian culture. well, what countries do people come to belarus from? cultural program? of course, we are with all our belarusians abroad the republican center for national cultures, it is 24/7, they say, you can call day and night to ask any questions, and through the ministry of foreign affairs. there is an advisory council, taking into account the fact that, uh, the republican center for national cultures, this is one of its main activities, we are familiar with almost all belarusians, and those abroad are really what she just said. this is so important because, well, it's one thing, when we communicate officially, when we

correspond there or meet at some official direct, but the most important thing is to meet. at such internships, when this informal communication takes place, when we begin to be friends, when we see each other, that is, it is worth a lot and after each trip i can tell you for sure that plans, uh, have already been scheduled for a year and invitations from others countries. and this is very important, and i also want to say that i came here. uh, also on the advisory board, and the most important thing is not to have uh be a registered public organization. i've sent an application. and i was invited simply as representatives trying to unite. uh, in my, so to speak, in my region of belarus, it’s not an easy task to tell you, but i also think that i can convey everything that i see and hear here, and alla came and the united states of america yes, a suburban house. by the way, i'm doing it. now

the museum of slavic cultures is being restored, this is new for me, so to speak, that is, everything that you are now showing us, i just think that i have arrived. belarusian winter all her little things and all the details. some are so beautiful they are breathtaking. some are awkward but together they are one. together, not harmony looking at them you feel aesthetic pleasure. do you feel that belarus is closer? nikolai i know that your

joke calls the artist a drug lord. why sparrow said flew out. i painted flowers for a series of poppies. i have always been fascinated by these spring flowers. yes, firstly, this is the national symbol of france, why do we have it? well, narcotic bites him there in the summer, this magician. well , everyone has one who admires beauty, the other there's some kind of rat, so i said, this is shumak. here, the drug lords would hang these works at their place. that's what happened with this one popped up and everything. it stuck to me somehow, it's not very pleasant for me. you know, but nevertheless it happened. that's it, yes.

my guest has a unique talent to see beauty in the familiar and ordinary; experts compare his landscapes with simple black bread, a taste that is familiar to them or from childhood. today my guest is the artist nikolai soyuzov nikolay good morning. good morning. nikolay, your childhood cannot be called joyful and easy sixth grade. you were brought up. why did it happen? life i loved freedom very much. i was the weather kid, to be honest. yes and this freedom probably somehow god helped me, that i am now free. i did

what i wanted, and not because he was some kind of problem, material, father. died. early 50 years. he was all hurt. although the children are already somewhere over 100 years old. genetics was powerful, of course, the state sent to the resorts. we see him crazy optimist. well, people at home were just waiting for me. i was still like a tenant in an orphanage, because i would put you in a briefcase under the bed and go for a walk wherever i want, and you have no resentment for your mother. that's for such a decision. no, i didn’t take offense at my mother, because i didn’t care, i was already a lodger for some reason, well, anyway, in the village. i ran away, saturday, sunday i went to some such route. and once i was just accompanied by a

wolf, i was walking in the winter. i then only sense that's how and how old are you? and which can you imagine the sixth grade? so that i have a house, it was now a house now a house, because it's still like. i built a house in the village there, so i come there. the golden age was my best work, damn it, was written when i was a chernevich. and by the way, what kind of relationship did you have with your crazy father? an optimist, he feels his short vector is like me, when he came from the resort, he brought something so new, he began to plant in the village the gardens of business boxes with such love. it was all painted straw. this some chemicals your childhood fell on the

fiftieth very difficult post-war years. and then suddenly the dream of becoming an artist. why do you know i somehow did not dream of becoming thin. for me, it was generally out of some kind, well, fantasy does not exist to be an artist. first, i could become a bandit in some village. you know what it is, the village is now military there, so you know what the village was like. he will remember with what. and so i myself pavlovil all sorts of slingshots, you know, he did such a criminal caste, well, you can make a model of some sort. there i walked a circle. uh, junior technician station, home here. when i did, there was a model of the ship, so, well,

the model was cool and suddenly, i look in the next room. something is going on there. there this years, it turns out cultures are engaged. here i am grateful to the terrible, now this is the main thing, the restorer of our museum. the spool of arcadia is, perhaps, that's where i picked up this virus tightly into this one to do art. but i took a piece of clay. i went to the village all summer sculpted in my father, white with clay, hid his garden bed, turned into an account. i managed. well, it seems, it seems yes, here, and then i took it, then i got it from the zakryvsky. how to get paints i come, well, the arrogant guy was so free, do you think the real one? yes, i come to this same workshop opposite the church in the old town, and there the guys drink vodka, and they have a

sea, nothing colors. here they wrote, these posters. lenin is more alive than all the living, probably everything. the people and the party had a lot of this stuff. i say everything. yes, they are painting today . well, look at you interesting, man sits in a taxi runs home and gives a bunch of colors. i look at them like a monkey. listen, i got here. yes, but what, i took a kitten? however, you did not immediately understand that you want to study painting and become an artist, you worked as a turner at a factory, it was your desire or more financial need. well, you know what i stagger say that i was so out of control that's why i

was sent to the factory after the eighth grade. i was the smallest, the smallest machine was also the smallest i, but i, to be free, i tried to spoil the table to go and mind my own business. yes, i got some pennies there. well, this is how i went through life already. well, then yes, and then i did. i did three times only for the third time. that's how much you experienced the moment when they were themselves in the lists of freshmen. well, you know, any exam is still a lottery, it's fate. i was still obsessed. i still did my job. yes, of course there was a great event when i entered. it's true that back then you didn't buy food with your last money, and plates. and well, that's such a passion, you know the records, first, i'm first when the puppies. yes, this was the second i had a virus. i went goose, gloss yes and there are

these music from his work, yes, that was not enough of one language. i began to write such questions , too, such abstracted really under the influence of this. so i started madly in love with classical music. i went when there were these, well, decades of books. they say records in the friendship store to us. oh yes, yes, yes, that now i’ll try to buy such a book now, yes, then there were already people, who specially bought sections were laid with chic books, that is, not biblios, a bibliomaniac, not a bibliography. yes, maybe he has them, but he never looks at them , you know, they gave them. now it has stopped, therefore, this period. that's when you know there was a deficit, terrible for everything. here even a record to buy there or a book,

but somehow i bought it. i had a huge collection of bahatz, the rarest record, and i always wrote to music, wrote to music, and then somehow i, you know, it was a little different. i had more abstracted with some here, and i know what it is, so i realized that i must paint a landscape. and when i got two small such jobs, i realized that i was a pizdos. well then there were different jobs different people different absolutely nothing. well, i'm coming back, like gram records. i know that you still collect vinyl records. how many records do you have in your collection? i have a lot of records. i don't collect them, because first of all i don't have time for empty music in my workshop, but there are old ones, with which i want to leave. well, of course, the equipment should be, respectively, because the sound on this one, well,

digital, yes, yes, it's completely sterile. yes, for example, no vinyl, of course, this is a real radiation. they are expensive. today it is an antique. yes, i don’t want to, i’ll put it through. i bought a german turntable. here i am very pleased. what the attention of our society should be focused on, one can argue , one can and should argue, is the development of the country, but within the framework of the constitution, this is our main task. what is the sovereignty of belarus, this is the originality of our constitutional system, there is no need to be afraid of this, there is no need to peep and copy anything from anyone, and how to be

ahead of the curve in the changing architecture of the world, they have a clear understanding of where and where we are going from here to all of us what is needed in order for this path to be most effective. in fact, belarusians belong to a great civilization. you can call it an east slavic professional view of the events from the opinion leaders in the project objectively, do not miss on tv channel belarus 24. as you understand , due to weather conditions, travel to we will not be able to start. but this will in no way become an obstacle to our acquaintance with the city; however , hundreds and even 1,000 km will not become an obstacle to traveling around belarus, a unique architectural structure. one of the most famous names of the belaya vezha tower, although white in its history. she never was. by the way, who didn’t know this

particular tower is depicted on a five-ruble banknote, the national belarusian authenticity home morning light-weight, where clothes were stored and weaving items red corner bed and oven this is what a typical belarusian khadka looked like and incredibly many positive emotions. for the first time i see a bison, they were born, by the way, this year. no. travel online with belarus 24 tv channel. there is such a well-known expression that an artist must be hungry in order to create great works. does an artist really have to pass the test

without money in order to better know life. well, you know that i don't think that the lack of money if it was penniless, they wouldn't have created what today? i'll say, what's what, well, it's not fair to reduce fate. it's rare you know an artist who discovers the world, but already invisibility is completely different. e society and in general, here it is perceived that such because people are accustomed to stereotypes. you see, in order to buy a job, how would you imagine that how could you buy google at the time when it will be, well, yes, yes, well, how is it, right? well, he opened it, so he was hungry. yes , therefore, when to accomplish a feat. yes it is open these, of course. there is a young one. yeah here

yeah, since people are investing money, and scribbling for and any handwriting is brilliant. although this is my artist. he's not really mine as an artist. well, as in the style of life according to its principles. he was completely free. he fulfilled himself. he spoke the truth. well, i spat once on the canvas turns out, but i bathe the castle. yes, you know, uh, i said in the distance that i'm rich, because there are a lot of pictures. so you see, everyone has their own destiny . absolutely yes. you see, well, nevertheless, they opened the world. they opened. this is very chocolate so to speak. this is how they lived they rejoiced, but fate was a pikas, they beat everyone there, thieves trampled on it, but that’s all, and i lived, he lived beautifully, he had good fish. yes, he had the courage to tell the germans. you did this for

sealant. they made me for you. yes? yes, like this, it means that one must have pride and independence. i was even respected, so for me today the concept of some kind of pr of glory yes , this, well, this is not mine. do you understand today? well , first of all, you, if any weather hangs on you, and you really think that you are already like that, yes, you know, tickle yourself and you yourself want. yes, it's bad, but every day that's not perfect and the inhabitants of this. here and here i already wrote. this is dead, the most great work of chistyakov, do you hear the poems? i imagine, but i know that in your life i ca n’t sell them, probably, paint a picture of this work, however, this art was given in your life there was such a period. wrote posters for food stamps. and now how do you remember that time. well, you know, i'm lucky too. i was a court painter at

the sports palace, and it was very well known once the largest object in europe yes, that's the message to the chile park well, they passed, anyway they are all sorts of i came there to work to arrange. the roof paid me some pennies. there was a workshop there, everything was paid for me by those for a penny, that is, the salary was, yes, and even more so the athletes, because when i held the competition. yes, these were food salons, they lived very well, these guys yes, and then they were right in my yard right there there was housing and a workshop, well, or something, over the fence of the botanical garden, they are all requests, dropped off fried, some kind of kebabs there hurt hashut, that is, i was such a courtier. we lived in a chocolatier, one might say, and in the seventy-eighth year your paintings got to all the allied youth exhibitions. in moscow

, and quite by chance what kind of story it is, firstly, that there was the soviet union and always a mouse, so to speak, an international power, of course, this has always been the main place. it was moscow, they were always there, they distributed everything, they are all there. and now, probably, it would be like that, well, there were messengers who came artificially selected from belarus and, of course, a topsy came to my pool. savich or pike brought these guys. well, i 'm telling you what i wrote there. i didn't think it was just a pleasure for me to exhibit at all, like a child. here is the process itself, and the process is important for the artist, and suddenly these four works are taken from me. that was the first all-union exhibition, and then yes, and then after that i already received contracts from moscow that is, i already began to order me to even order works, or he is belarusian picture bought by the tretyakov gallery for 5,000 rubles.

it seems to me that every artist dreams about this event. this event was also facilitated by the case of a small workshop of 2 m, a retreat and takes it out on the street and suddenly it. tretyakov gallery and suddenly in the newspaper of soviet culture, i'm going from moscow. we were always invited and suddenly the newspaper of soviet culture. i watch leon plants in mirnoye, this is the newspaper of the cpsu central committee, and this picture was washed on the whole page by the belarusian left. yes, i come to minsk to me. and for how much did you buy? that's how they didn't treat each other envy or what? i don't know, you know, but for me it was not the main thing. that was the main thing for me. that's when i write, i live, if it's not a secret, uh, what did you spend the fee for the picture on? do you know that i first came to the village? and what, and then i decided to build a house when they bought my mother from me, firstly, come on, here i am anyway running to the birch there as a

sympathizer. well, our village was such a central collective farm center. well, you know, combed a little. yes, and there is space . you see, this is a problem. i say come on buy houses where we didn't drive around no. i'm used to. here i decided to build a house. this money was spent that i built a house there, of course, it cost me a huge steering wheel. this is 3-4 years. i built it myself. yes, and you know there, well, somehow i got a little bit into it, because moscow concluded contracts and there were orders through the plant. that is, i have already earned this creative money. they've gone to do it, and your work has been repeatedly exhibited abroad, your paintings are in private european colleagues. but to move and live abroad of such a desire did not occur. you know that there is

already such a legend that it lies in the eyes. he will come through the screen on foot home. yes, like a cat, that's why i can't be there for more than 10 days , to be honest, so i was in italy when not to speak. yes, yes, it's all right there . great. yes, well, it's still home. i came to the village, which i first saw in france. i saw yes, a beautiful country, awesome, awesome everything that the artists did there. you know it yes. well, when i look, he's looking at such greenery. here, she is something light green, it is not the same as we have in august, the greenery is such that it is worthy . no need to collect some dirt to interfere and write you not green red. yes, you see, that's why i somehow, well, you know, was born there. well, i don't know, it's probably good

to leave 25 years 30 there, right? well, when you are already 50 60, then no. no, i'm gone. yes, okay we're already and still even a museum. this is the greatest thing that is the state of the artist - this is the process. it's when you're a workshop, my misfortune my wealth, and you think it's not enough? whom yes well be so free. and it's very . right now, it's just important to appreciate every moment of this, well, just recently you presented one of your most famous paintings to the palace of independence. it's a memory, luciano turning. why was it given as a gift and not sold? well, you know that a series of flowers, mine was such that i painted large relatives, straight from nature. it was called the melody of summer. and turn. this is my favorite pepper. all this is a brilliant singer, because i love music. and

on this day when i write. delphiniums - do you know how music floats? i say scary blue this color. here you know this. well, it’s hard to convey, and suddenly i didn’t hear, i found it to turn. yes, i'm stressed. here i called the memory better. and this work was written in one session. that is, this work is very expensive for you. i have many times wanted to buy and the chinese. many. well, something happened that i did not want. i don't want to just mess around. you know, that's how you part with children , that's with good work. i don't want to part, they rarely happen to bad ashamed nikolay and you are not the only artist. in the family, your wife maria is called by an expert the queen of still life. how does an artist's business survive in one

artist's workshop, so that today they don't say she's crazy? for her , again, the process is important for her, it can even be a hobby, if for me a profession is a profession, when you earn money it is a profession. but when real art is done from the heart, as here, they don’t think, for money they do great primitive things, yes, when there is necessity, here she is, but she is a master and when an exhibition in italy and president of the italian academic. this is the queen in prison, especially since it is in the palace and the italian kings of the guys represent in the halls, such, yes. it's awesome. yes, she is a master and dreamed of her work. i part very hard

illness. why are you breaking up in the hospital? why because, you know, i see how she does these jobs. and that she has this real art for marina, this is it, you didn’t make a reservation now. marina you said marina i'm with you masha in the village, yes? well , somehow marina here she is clinging to me. and then she is so middle-class she loves water. that's why she doesn't protest. the fact is that she is water in itself according to the sign of the horoscopes, and i am fire, so we have hiss all the time. here we go then once again, and i'm just starting to burn something in my place, and the fire, she fie at me and that's it. and this is the picture we have and that's it. new year new

experiences new emotions and travel winter holidays stay at home with fragrant tea and under a blanket, and someone is looking for new experiences, together we will build new routes from the lermontov house of culture. i met a craftswoman who makes dolls, charms of the lyudmila lomaka collection of more than 200 guards , eyes run wide, we will visit unique places in our country about friends. i felt like i was in a real fairy tale. it's not just everything is done with the soul. and also very elegant and just have fun , cook. give ko. it is not necessary so everything does not lead two one. see itinerary was built on the belarus 24 tv channel.

we are going on an expedition to the bushes of our country, we destroy at once on the first i have online until the next story, the name of the owl to you, what, you curled the eggs at home, i understood that it was more criminally cheap for a sterligion a goat for a bunch of it and could be hung on good we live offspring. the lord has a harvest and let's give the second tradition a new life. i'm a handbrake at once with projects on pirates on a tv channel, belarus

in one of your interviews, you said that if an artist had 3-4 works, it means that he was made according to this formula. you you can say that you have taken place as an artist, you know, it’s hard to say, maybe it’s just time to put it on the shelf and say, i think so, but the fact that there are some favorite idols, favorite works, they change. here, i now come to the exhibition. i look, yes, youth, and i somehow or i became some kind. i don’t know, some kind of me here and nothing clings. i'm calm why because i somehow feel that people look to the west look at this modern art, but i'm not a conservative that every time has its own artists

heroes. well, i'm a different artist. i am an artist from the earth. i am, of course, now trying to change somehow. maybe it's too late. well, you know the process is going on, but what time will tell, so i think that yes, the artist, if it happened in three or four works. well, got ready, what happened? one, in short, arrived. yes, and then he will repeat the repetitions there, yes, he wrote mines, endlessly earned money. if hatting is better than me, don't write. that's it, so i can't say today. what work will remain mine. it's probably time select. or maybe a lot, or maybe one. maybe nothing at all, damn it, i’m sure everyone is talking about it. come on, well, we have come to the end

of our conversation, and our program is called the meaning of life for you. what is the meaning of life, just live, do not think that you need a lot, that you are some kind of genius. and just enjoy everyone. i have not yet done what i would like to do, well, the process is underway, therefore, for me, even every exhibition is mine. i do this for myself, so you see what else i can do, what can i do? here i am when i saw my work, old, i would think how could i write it, and some i get it, how could i write it, yes, you are always delighted. surprise we live. that's plus or minus. and this is

what to think, the meaning of life, life is just what god gave you and lived, i can’t judge someone that they are doing something badly. can he have any happiness in this, right? that's because she didn't repeat her life. thanks a lot. that was the meaning of nikolai saenko's life. when did you hold a book in your hands? they leafed through page after page eagerly, tasting every word of all manifestations of human creativity, the most amazing and worthy of attention - these are books in books that live

at home, the voices of people of the past are clearly heard, everything that mankind has done has been preserved, as if by magic on the pages of books survives centuries.