uh, there are a few exercises, and for comparison , there is the dubrovinsky district, the very east of belarus and the vitebsk region, there, uh, something like 150 min. points. but, if we take the merz composition and the proslavsky sharkovshchina district, and there for 900 and for a thousand , and this, in general, has been preserved. yes, that moment , the people, when we explored these lands, let's say , but because on this rough terrain, it means that there were a lot of farms and youth. villages. it was optimal for that environment when they are big patches agricultural territories, which will be limited with forest and, therefore, somehow, and these three or four 10 households of the village. they have an interesting name, they are consonant. they go

sound literally. like burdock poems, runners, pestuns and so on. uh, what exactly is it, if the ivanovsky district is neighboring stolin, ivanovsky district, there is a unique local, a unique city, but i won’t be able to reproduce it, but there are a lot of dialects there are a lot of directors and there , uh, very strong. e save. i would say appreciate and preserve traditions. the same

not even that famous. i have noted something else. once upon a time, the future is in the village of doropeevich, ivanovsky district. so, i examined the local wooden church. at the end of the 18th century, i noticed that in the territory in the courtyard in this church there are low obelisks, it was immediately clear that this was not a burial place, that it was something else, and then i read the names of the surnames and so on and asked the locals. and what is it, and these are monuments to everyone who once left, to look for some kind of good luck from our region to the big world. so he didn’t return, so here and now their names are inscribed these discs that stand in this churchyard are a unique phenomenon. and where it is possible to improve this one today, it was simply not necessary to answer for this more than once.

well, how does it happen? volumes went on sale freely. maybe a digital version will appear soon for convenience , yes, and a digital one and there will probably be a re-release. well, this is a big job. that's why a separate big one, because the process is exploratory, and he says it does n't stop. thank you very much. thank you, alexander lakote, as an academician and doctor of historical sciences director of the center for research of belarusian culture, language or literature of the national academy of sciences of belarus results and analysis of the main events of this week in the informational analytical program atn main broadcast all projects of our tv channel are on the website www.birus24.by and in social networks. i'm sorry to you.

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studio aleksey mashkin, deputy head of the criminal investigation department of the central internal affairs directorate of the minsk executive committee and aleksey novash, head of the countermeasures department cybercrime of the central internal affairs directorate of the minsk city executive committee. this is not the first time we have met with police officers in this studio and we are talking about the fact that our citizens are being subjected to fraudulent actions and we are saying that no matter how much we say people are still being led to all sorts of things, and dishonest schemes are given away their money, and last year. we can say that there was a surge of such crimes. can we estimate the damage and maybe the average amount. what people voluntarily give away, with regard to relationships associated with so called accidents when the victim receives a call on the phone, and the unknown person appears to be a relative who reports that he is in trouble and asks for money in order to resolve the issue of the victims and not initiate a criminal case, then, uh, if we talk about average damage. uh, for such fraud there, the amount varies from the minimum. cash is like 1,000 rubles. belarusian and can reach the

maximum amount of transfer we had 50.000 dollars sshanik call the specific amount always says that for e termination criminal case. and uh, that the victim did not write a statement, the amount of 50,000 rubles is necessary. this is always usually the call is discussed immediately during the phone call. but when the patient says that i have such a sum, i do not have it. i have a certain amount that he has and he is ready to give it further already, respectively, scammers. yes, agree to these terms. and then a courier goes to them, who takes this amount of money , comes home and gives the money. yes, all the time while the courier is going, uh, to the injured. uh, the victim is kept on the phone. they give you the opportunity to call your close relatives to find out from him really or did he get in mind or not, while this happens, huh? the victim is dictated by an application for various kinds, should know

the main persons a-a with a request to stop the main case and all the time tells him that everything will be fine. do not worry about putting some personal hygiene items for your relative, because they are in a medical institution, and all the money is put in a bag, which are transferred, respectively, to the arriving courier. and who is usually if such hi who becomes a victim? talk many times. it seems to me that young people will definitely not go for this, as a rule, they are lonely, pensioners living, and who have savings for the so-called rainy day, and they assume that by their actions they help their close relative with the hope that by passing money. everything will be good for his loved one in the first place. these are the very centers from which busy children. i understand that this is not a randomly dialed number. that is, this whole system works, of course, this is usually a professional call center, where

psychologists are located, but they conduct a professional conversation, built on the conviction that the victims in no way doubt that he is talking like a rule with representatives of a law enforcement agency, either it is a police officer or an investigative committee, and according to reports, that these call centers are located outside the city outside the republic of belarus, this is possible. heading ukraine and the republic of poland, if we talk about ukraine, since the beginning of the year, this number of such calls has not decreased. but no, but at the moment the calls continue and there are already cases of people transferring money. what are the main types of such fraud, what can be new in the arsenal, what should i pay attention to? well, with e road transport, the accident is understandable. everyone has already met that i am now. well, i will say that they do not lose their relevance. eh, not only here fraud in that, here is the standard form, which alexey gennadievich stopped but also the so-called

fraud, connected with the direct, but with the use of the network. internet this is also notorious you see it too phishing er in more detail many foreign words that require deciphering. ah. again , let's go back, if in simple terms it is to say these same calls from representatives of banking institutions, supposedly representatives of banking vibers, as a rule. any messenger can be used there, as far as phishing is again a way of fraudulent activities using the so -called social engineering. that is, this psychological impact is only associated not with direct, but with communication by telephone. and this communication through the network is the same uh online trading platforms. this is again the same jokes - these are the same dating sites. this is any, can be any sites. uh, used by all these internet, which offer, under various pretexts, to conduct

some kind of financial transactions with your means to pay for some purchase, or to receive some kind of winnings, and thus, by providing your confidential data , personal data that allows you to access your purchase account via the internet is very popular. yes, they are very popular. it is very comfortable. it is clear that the world does not stand still, but develops and is offered. uh, services that will make our life easier from a second yes purchase from transferring money to scammers . here obviously here obviously here. uh, by and large , the internet. it is not used here, just a call comes in, the only question is, where does it come from and how does it receive telephone communication, or through communication devices, but again , the call comes to the home phone and a live courier arrives for a person, that is, a specific person who, uh, the injured

party independently transfers the funds, with regard to internet fraud, that is, the crime of so-called cybercrimes. here, as a rule, communication absolutely does not occur between the injured victim and the perpetrator. they don't see each other. they communicate, either again through messengers, or through the internet through various social networks. tell me, alexey vladimirovich, we have already said about the fact that couriers come in live communication. and who are these same couriers, who goes to this kind of earnings, because it is conscious, they don’t tell him that you will deliver pizza, and get paid for it . uh, as a rule, these are young people between the ages of 16 and 23 who are officially not employed looking for. ah, so -called m-m earnings associated with not hard physical labor, this job advertisement in the form of couriers. they are found on various sites. telegram channels, where he offers, and they earn 100 rubles. and

above, and for the purpose of roughly speaking the transportation from the point, and at the point b of various kinds of things under a plausible pretext. uh. no, they tell him that you need to come to the address and pick up a package or things from a person and bring him, respectively, another place. because of this, a certain amount of money is obtained, as a rule? boiled. uh, immediately in some cases, the employer. the so -called one asks to send the passport details of the courier, who will, uh, if something happens yes, in which case, so that the so -called employer himself can contact the internal affairs authorities and report that he has already become a so-called victim, it turns out, and the courier appropriates personally the money that the victim received. i understand that if the couriers are those people who manage to hold up, yes, then here are those very call centers to go to the people who call and probably

not even them. yes, how this scheme is arranged and to what extent, and it is really possible to destroy this scheme and about the safety of people, any of this fraudulent scheme involves more than one person. well, this is such a well-organized company. moreover, there is a clear distribution of roles, and at the same time it is important to understand that the situation is that these participants in this scheme are communicating. and as a rule, also online, that is. that is, in most cases they don’t even know each other, all communication are happening. eh, hire. here are these workers of people who will perform certain rough work. the so-called workers also take place via the internet , that's how aleksey gennadievich dwelled on the situation with couriers. this is already the final link, which must be performed for some specific remuneration. this is the work to collect the money. in the same way, this scheme involves people who are directly involved in calls of a person who trains these people is very important. if a moment, because we are all fine

we understand, there to speak to give money. there should be a fairly serious psychological preparation, which is based precisely on human feelings about understanding e, and here to deceive and persuade to kill a person so that he gives his e-e funds further . e, intermediate vision connected can also participate in this scheme. uh, with persons who will draw up certain accounts for themselves, the same bank cards. uh, the same uh persons who are engaged in the exchange, for example, there uh cash for the same cryptocurrency or digital currency, and therefore even suppression of such criminal activity even at the stage. let them be the same, but the couriers at the stage of these workers on whose faces he influences his accounts, and whom we detain for liability on the territory of our state. it already plays a significant role. and in reducing this criminal

activity, and yet these preventive measures and practical work connected with the organization and detention and prosecution of all persons are bearing fruit and are aimed at reducing that's the number of potential victims. uh, in our state in the city of minsk, there is now international cooperation in this area, maybe you are cooperating with colleagues from other states and confronting it together. but as a rule, yes, there are opportunities, as a rule, with colleagues from the russian federation, because this type of crime is also common among them. uh, somewhere we get additional information, uh, and exchange experience in solving this type of crime. we talked about leaflets and tv shows and stories. it seems to me that everything possible types of prevention. we have engaged. why do people still give their money to scammers. after all, very often after people apply, a to the authorities.

they say that they heard about this type of fraud, yes, 99% of the victims that we communicated with, who transferred money and said that yes, i knew, heard, read about this method of committing fraud. but at what point, when a call occurs, and people are lost. and imagine that indeed they were called by a person close to them and a native, purely psychology. yes, and on in this, we have built, in principle, a conversation so that person a hears a familiar, as it seems to him, native voice, it will be distorted, and at the same time there will be an explanation that the person’s lip is broken, perhaps the jaw, so he talks so indistinctly when her phone is already taken, respectively, you imagine a person as a police officer, or investigative committees and explain what happened. how long it takes to

solve a crime, including related cybercrime, how difficult it is to identify a process that is long enough for in fact, indeed, but it also has certain limits and has its own positive effect. here. yes, it is clear that especially if this crime is connected, uh, with the internet. and what is the internet is a global network. two people can communicate with each other, being at different uh ends of the globe, so to say that, for example, it takes two months or six months there, depending on the situation. well, nevertheless, yes compared to the general criminality is enough. this is a long process because that he is very seriously closed. and so, as the ass was mentioned at international cooperation, because, as a rule, social networks, their organizers are located on the territory of other states, they need to receive certain digital information. need this information go to the meeting willingly. yes

, of course, we have built quite serious cooperation at the level of the ministry of the interior with similar structures in other states and established it. uh, certain contractual agreements on the basis of which we exchange all this we provide information, yes, uh, distance to the territory, they are, of course, quite serious, but this is not some kind of hard obstacle for some kind of herd. we have this interaction suspended, and we could not conduct some action, so it can be borrow. yes, maybe for months , six months, we are currently solving crimes that were committed 2-3-4 years ago, because it turns out no, but no, each crime has its own term statute of limitations, depending on the category it belongs to, well, two-three-four years, this is not a period, but i, receiving certain

information, including from my colleagues and abroad, receiving certain digital information in the course of direct work in the internet itself analyzing e. these are the digital traces that are collected over a certain period of time, we come and still establish a list that is involved in the commission of such crimes on the global network. and very often messengers are hacked into pages in social networks. why do they do it? well, such, it seems, as harmless, but they came to send a message to their friends. here are your names, why is this being done? what is the risk? the fact is that a-a first question, why is this being done? let's go back a year or two. we used to say very often, er, when such so -called first scams appeared. these are on such a global scale. uh, the first thing people began to pay attention to, they remembered the first message that if you receive a call from a foreign number, in no case do not talk to you scammer. well, this thesis , somewhere, it nevertheless began to take root, and

the criminals began to lose potential victims due to what they see, and the foreign number is not a belarusian prefix, which means, uh, this is a scammer, so the scammers arose. this is the so-called deficit. here are these, uh, yes, a certain sacrifice, for this they needed belarusian numbers, so that the person already yes the call comes to the manager from the belarusian number, respectively, he is calmer and more calm about this issue. for this e began to develop. eh, different again here. eh, as a rule, phishing links, that is, fake links that look very similar to some real real site and send, uh, citizens to the same. here is, uh, the viber messenger which is now the most common. that's it. these are the hacks, and citizens. eh, getting a certain link. they don’t really begin to read similar names there, they click on this button, it actually. gives e remote access to your account, the scammer

gains access to your account with him seizes and then subsequently use your phone number, which is our belarusian number, which is uh in order to commit further uh already, uh fraudulent actions, either it is already used for calls such as uh hmm an accident or it is to use it for further crimes. there precisely cybercrime is the second point. as for responsibility, of course. this is a responsibility, we have a whole chapter of the criminal code, 31 crimes against computer security, which provides e, liability for unauthorized access. well, also for illegal use. here are these personal e-electronic data, if the fraudster was detained, and after serving the sentence how often are there such repeated returns? in the case when they return and continue to do the same and whether they fall for the same bait again, but as for

the victims, i’ll tell you. so, we probably had cases, uh, that the victim, for maybe five or six hours , came twice or thrice, even the courier, then there is a conversation continued and the victim throughout this conversation, and she was convinced that the amount was insufficient and the victims twice thrice, transferred money, as for the persons who committed fraud, then, as a rule, people who communicate with this species in the car, if these are young people aged 16 to 27 years old, when they already realize what they have done, then, of course, they already repent, understand that they are threatened with punishment, they say that we are more yes, and as for the repeated decision of fraud, as a rule, these are other machines so which is done in relation to probably familiar friends, where under a plausible pretext, uh, a person, uh, says that

i need money to develop a business, that is, in this way he takes one amount, a second third, after which the scheme. clearly hidden. he is condemned, and after the events of punishment , the person knows nothing but before that, respectively, he finds dns methods and makes a fantasy. listen, yes, therefore , a person does not stop, roughly speaking, even if, after serving the punishment, there were cases that he commits a similar kind crime, how quickly the victim comes out of this shock and turns a statement to the police that he has become a victim of a car. well , maybe after the end of the call. uh, three, four, five times the courier came, that is, each time he gave a new amount. and when it became clear that, well, they deceived, yes, you put down the phones, you start to realize that the victim begins to realize that, probably, he was wrong somewhere, he remembers from such a situation, uh, which he heard on tv, or read somewhere, begins to dial familiar

relatives in first turn. well be specified as a state. to which, in a telephone conversation, he learns that no one has been in an accident, everyone is alive and well and immediately applies. yes, it already turns out right away by phone, or uh with uh independently applies to the territorial division of the courier's bodies to detain. well, speaking directly with the package, yes, there were cases ah, where a we managed to, er, red-handedly detain the courier, right next to the address of the victim someone figured it out very quickly. yes, what is happening there is an opportunity with e, we can quickly respond to such messages scam worth knowing. let's try to list how else our citizens are being deceived. ways to do it. here are these fraudulent actions, theft of deceptions. you can call it whatever you like. they do not change , they change, only the pretext under which the postal yes when they call the post office and says go to the post office and receive the parcel to pay a certain amount of money. the fact is that

today we have already talked about why they are committed, why do people react to this? the fact is that a person is not a robot, he has his own feelings, and on these feelings scammers play the same. uh, a serious feeling, this feeling of fear, on which, again, there is also an accident when a relative gets there. we are ready to give everything there , just to save our loved one, then there is a feeling of some kind of idle curiosity. eh, let's go. we will pass some kind of testing filled in there on the course of the wheel of fortune and suddenly we are lucky. well, the third one, of course, i would probably single out. these are questions of precisely a certain self-interest and a thirst for obtaining some kind of, uh, material some benefits did not do anything at the same time. here we return again to the same parcels, that is, a person receives a message that it has come in your name. the link, in which some very expensive gift is located , all you need to do is pay there some symbolic amount for

a postal order. yes, then you will find out what is there, well, they can tell you on the phone that you have won some very new phone there or some kind of household appliances, something very serious. well, when you are already somewhere in your head thinking how i will do this now, how to whom i will sell my old one now and are ready to pay some amount there for the fact that you then open this package. there's a phone there, maybe anything. there, maybe just a brick to lie. maybe just a set of paper or something else. well, any object that creates a certain e weight creates some kind of weight and everything that is on the dating site. these are the same dating sites. and here again we come to a certain problem. why do we stop communicate with each other? as a person, we are accustomed. that we have gadgets at hand, we have a computer, we have some kind of equipment, which, on the one hand, we do not need to run anywhere. we can lie on the couch and make

ourselves tea, coffee, drink calmly and chat. and this is what leads to the fact that the end result. uh, in the process of communication, the potential victim is quite simple. here. eh, again there is a message on psychology. uh it is proposed at some point it is already meet. in order to meet, but you need to pre-book, for example, the same uh, the theater is also a cinema. uh, anything to make some payment, some some service that's so scarce. and what needs to be done here and now. well, and, accordingly, everything is with a person who seems to be, maybe even, a used to be afraid. eh, somewhere here, for example, a young man is also talking directly to a girl. and all these, he may be shy there some right. meetings will not find any understanding. and then , it seems, after talking on the network, some kind of psychological contact appeared. e, he

sees that e is ready to communicate with him, and he is ready there, pay some there, again, some insignificant amount there, book the same tickets in order to meet in the end. and suddenly it's fate. yes. well, and accordingly, then it turns off again. this here, uh, rationality. this thinking logic fades into the background. emotions are on. the hormones are already on. well, and, accordingly, all the functions are performed, all the actions that the scammer is already directing you are sending you this phishing link. you already uh, rainbow uh circles in the eyes. yes, it is no longer considered, what is there on this screensaver on this one? what there are fields works. it doesn't have any grammatical errors, in the same sentences. never mind. it is important already to quickly try to pay and come somewhere to hold a meeting. all these scams are pure psychology

, only the pretexts are changing, under which this and and why are more pretexts changing, because, uh, as practice shows, they are first of all remembered. apparently, only certain theses. yes, theses, and when a person is asked, again, this is already a victim of the same cyber-fraud. well, now, you knew that if a person calls you, he introduces himself as a banker, and uh, you can’t uh, give him your bank details. yes, i knew, but the banker called me. i got a call from a law enforcement officer the same as we stopped today. well, we knew that you couldn’t answer if the call was from a foreign number, well, there was a belarusian number right there, respectively. uh, that's why we see, and the same thing as alexei gennadievich stopped by the fact that the ladies knew that they could do it. fraudsters, but then a relative called. he spoke so convincingly. so, uh, my heart just couldn’t stand the fact that the more the

orientation is more towards the older generation, who are more emotional, and who already have it now well, let’s understand that we have certain age categories, slightly different values ​​and a scale of values ​​and already to more uh, older age. we have more emotions again. and what's left for people is just to care and help your loved ones. thank you very much for a very useful informative conversation. i hope that thanks to our broadcast, including people will be more attentive and careful. thank you