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the program based on scripts today is our studio's guest aleksey mashkin, deputy head of the criminal investigation department of the central internal affairs directorate of the minsk city executive committee and aleksey novash, head of the cybercrime counteraction department of the central internal affairs directorate of the minsk city executive committee. this is not the first time we have met with police officers. in this studio, we are talking about the fact that our citizens are being subjected to fraudulent actions and we are saying that no matter how much we say people are still being led to all kinds of, but dishonest schemes and give away their money, and last year. we can say that there was a surge of such crimes. can we estimate the damage and maybe the average amount. what kind of people voluntarily give away, with regard to relationships associated with the so -called accidents, when the victim receives a call on the phone, and the unknown appears to be a relative that he is in trouble and they ask for money in order to resolve the issue by the victims and a criminal case is not initiated, then uh, if we talk about the average damage. uh, for such

scams out there, the amount varies from minimal. cash is like 1,000 rubles. belarusian and can reach the maximum transfer amount, we had 50,000 us dollars, he always calls a specific amount , he always says that in order to terminate the criminal case and so that the victim does not write a statement, the amount of 50,000 rubles is necessary. this is always usually the call is negotiated immediately after the phone call. well, when the patient says that i have such an amount, i don’t have it. i have a certain amount that he has and he is ready to give it further already, respectively scammers. yes, agree to these terms. and then a courier goes to them, who takes this amount of money , comes home and gives the money. yes, for all the time while the courier is traveling, uh, to the victims. uh, keeps the victim on the phone. they give you the opportunity to call your close relative to find out if he really has it or if he got in mind or not, while this

happens, huh? the victim is dictated by an application for various kinds, should know the main persons a-a with a request to stop the head case and all the time tells him about that everything will be fine. do not worry about putting some personal hygiene items for your relative, because they are in a medical institution, and all the money is put in a bag, which are transferred, respectively, to the arriving courier. and who is usually if such hi who becomes a victim? talk many times. it seems to me that young people will definitely not go for this, as a rule, they are lonely, pensioners living, and who have savings for the so-called rainy day, and they assume that by their actions they help their a close relative with the hope that passing the money. everything will be good for his loved one in the first place. these are the same centers, of which

those are busy, as i understand it, it was not a random dialed number. that is, this whole system works, of course, as a rule, this is a professional call center, where the psychologist is located, but they conduct a professional conversation based on the conviction that the victim should never doubt that he is talking like rule with representatives law enforcement agency, or it is a police officer, or an investigative committee, and according to available communications, that these call centers are located outside the city outside the republic of belarus, this is possible. the audience of ukraine they were a republic, poland, if we talk about ukraine, then since the beginning of the year this number of such calls has not decreased, no. uh at the moment, the calls continue and there are already cases of people transferring money. what are the main types of such fraud, what can be new appeared in the arsenal, what should you pay attention to? well, uh, traffic accidents are understandable. everyone has already met that i am now. well, i will say that they do not lose their relevance.

and not only here is fraud in that, here is the standard form that alexei gennadievich stopped well, the so-called fraud, connected with the direct, but use of the network. internet this is also notorious, cherry is also phishing e in more detail a lot of foreign words that require deciphering. ah. again , let's go back, if in simple terms this is say these same calls from representatives of banking institutions, supposedly representatives of banking, as a rule. any messenger can be used there, as for phishing, this is again a way of fraudulent actions using the so -called social engineering. that is, this psychological impact is only associated not with direct, but with communication by telephone. and this communication through the network is the same uh online trading platforms. this is again the same jokes - these are the same dating sites. this is any, can be any sites.

uh, used by all these internets that offer, under various pretexts, to carry out some financial transactions with your funds, pay for some kind of purchase, or receive some kind of winnings, and thus, providing your confidential data with personal data that allow you to access to your account online purchases are very popular. yes, they are very popular. it is very comfortable. it is clear that the world does not stand still, but develops and is offered. uh, services that will make our life easier from our second yes purchase from the transfer of money to scammers the fact is that in situations associated with the so-called these e, traffic accidents. it 's obvious here it's obvious here uh by and large the internet. she is not used. here the call just comes in, the only question is where he comes from. and how does this direct telephone connection, either through communication devices, but again

, the call goes to the home phone and a live courier arrives for the person, that is, a specific person who, uh, the victim the party independently transfers the funds, with regard to internet fraud, that is, the crime of so-called cybercrimes. here, as a rule, communication absolutely does not occur between the injured victim and the offender. they don't see each other. they communicate, either again through messengers, or through the internet through various social networks. again , we are the same alexey vladimirovich said about the fact that couriers come in live communication. and who are these same couriers, who goes to this kind of earnings, because it is conscious. they don’t tell him that you will deliver pizza, and get paid for it. uh, as a rule, these are young people aged 16 to 23 who are not officially employed, but looking for themselves, and the so-called m-m earnings associated with not hard physical labor, this

job advertisement in the form of couriers. they are found on various sites. telegram channels where they offer e, they earn 100 rubles. and above, and for the purpose, roughly speaking, of transporting e from the point, and at point b of various kinds of things under a plausible pretext. no, they tell him what you need to come to will be to pick up a person, a package or things from a person and bring him, respectively, another other place. because of this, a certain amount of money is obtained, as a rule? persuades. uh, immediately in some cases, the employer. the so-called one asks to send the passport details of the courier, who will, uh, if something happens yes, in which case, so that the so-called employer himself can contact the internal affairs authorities and report that he has already become a so-called victim, it turns out, but the courier personally appropriates the money that the victim received. as far as i understand, if the

couriers are the people who can be detained, yes, then these are the very call centers and the people who call and, probably, not even them. yes, how this scheme is arranged and to what extent, and it is really possible to destroy this scheme and about the safety of people, any of this fraudulent scheme involves more than one person. well, this is such a directly organized company. moreover, there is a clear distribution of roles, and at the same time it is important to understand that the situation is that these participants are communicating this scheme. and usually online. that is, in most cases they don’t even know each other, all communication takes place. eh, hire. here are these workers of people who will perform certain rough work. the so-called workers also take place via the internet, that's how aleksey gennadievich dwelled on the situation with couriers. this is already the final link, which must be completed for some specific remuneration. this is the work to collect the money .

the person who directly deals with the calls the person who trains these people is very important. if the moment, because we all understand perfectly well, there uh talk to give back the money. there should be a fairly serious psychological preparation, which is based precisely on human feelings , in order to understand uh hmm and uh, deceive and persuade to kill a person so that he gives his uh funds further. this scheme can also involve uh, intermediate vision connection. uh with the faces that will make out on themselves certain accounts are the same bank cards. uh, the same uh persons who are engaged in the exchange, for example, there is cash for the same cryptocurrency or digital currency, and therefore even the suppression of such criminal activity is even at the stage. let them be the same, but the couriers at the stage of these workers on whose faces he influences himself

, and whom we detain for accountability on the territory of our state. it already plays a significant role. e in the reduction of this criminal activity, and yet these preventive measures and practical work related to the organization and detention and prosecution of those individuals is bearing fruit and is aimed at reducing the number of potential victims. uh, in our state in the city of minsk, there is now international cooperation in this area, maybe you are cooperating with colleagues from other states and confronting it together. but as a rule, yes, there are opportunities, usually with colleagues from the russian federation, uh, because they also have this type of crime is widespread, but somewhere we get additional information, and we exchange experience in solving this type of crime. we talked about flyers and tv shows and storylines. it seems to me that there are already all possible types of prevention. we have

engaged. why do people still give their money to scammers, after all, and very often after people turn to the authorities. they say that they heard about this type of fraud, yes, 99% of the victims that we communicated with, who transferred the money and said that yes, i knew i heard i read from this method of making a relationship, but at what point, when a call occurs, and people are lost. and imagine that indeed they were called by a person close to them and a native, purely psychology. yes, and we are based on this, in principle, the conversation, so that person a hears a familiar, as it seems to him, native voice, he will be distorted, and at the same time there will be an explanation that the person’s lip is broken, as if, perhaps, the jaw, so he she talks so incomprehensibly when she is already taking the phone, respectively, a person, can you imagine police officer or investigative committees and explain what happened.

how long and difficult it is to solve crimes, including those related to cybercrime, how difficult it is to identify a process that is long enough, in fact , but it also has certain limits and has its own positive effect. well , yes, it is clear that especially if this crime is connected, uh, with the internet. and what is the internet is a global network. two people can communicate with each other, being at different uh ends of the globe, so u say that, for example, it takes two months or half a year, depending on the situation. well, nevertheless, yes. compared to general criminality, a rather lengthy process, because it is very seriously closed and, as it was already mentioned in international cooperation, because, as a rule, social networks, their

organizers are located on the territory of other states, you need to get a certain digital information. need this information willingly. yes, of course, we have built a fairly serious interaction at the level ministries of internal affairs with similar e structures of other states and set up. uh, certain contractual agreements on the basis of which we exchange this information, provide, yes, uh, distance territories, they have, of course. this means a rather serious significance, but this is not some kind of hard obstacle for us to stop this interaction at some herd, and we could not carry out any actions, so it can be occupied. yes maybe months for half a year we are currently solving crimes that were committed 2-3-4 years ago, because it turns out not. but no, every crime has a statute of limitations depending on the category it belongs to, well, two, three, four years. this is the deadline.

yes, this is not a deadline, but! and e, getting here certain information, including from their colleagues abroad, receiving certain digital information in the course of direct work on the internet itself analyzing e. these are the digital footprints that we collect over a period of time. we come and install all the same sheet, which is involved in the commission of such crimes. you are talking about the global network. and very often messengers are hacked into pages in social networks. why do they do it? well , such, it seems, as harmless, but they came to send a message to their friends. here are your names, why is this being done? what is the risk? the fact is that a-a first question, why is this being done? let's go back a year or two. we often talked about when such so-called first scams appeared. these are on such a global scale. uh, the first thing that people began to pay attention to remembered the first parcel that if you receive a call from a foreign number,

in no case do not talk to you, a scammer is calling. well, this thesis somewhere, it nevertheless began to take root and the criminals began to lose potential victims due to what they see, and the foreign number is not a belarusian prefix, so uh, this is a scammer, so uh, the scammers have a so -called deficit. here are these victims, yes, certain victims, for this they needed belarusian numbers, so that a person already yes the call comes to the messenger from the belarusian number, respectively, he is calmer and more relaxed about this issue. for this e began to develop. eh, different again here. eh, as a rule, phishing links, that is, fake links that look very similar to some real real site and send, uh, citizens to the same. here is, uh, the viber messenger which is now the most common. that's it. here are such hacks, and citizens receiving a certain link. they don't really start there.

to get a grasp of the name is similar, they click on this button, it actually. gives e remote access to your account, the machine gets access to your account, takes possession of it and then subsequently uses your phone number, which is our belarusian number, which is in order to commit further e already here, e fraudulent actions, or is it already used for here are calls such as e traffic accident whether it is to use it to further commit crimes. there precisely cybercrime is the second point. uh what about responsibility, of course. this responsibility exists, we have a whole chapter in the criminal code 31 crimes against computer security, which provides for, uh, liability for unauthorized access. well, also for illegal use. here are these personal e-electronic data, if the fraudster was detained and after serving the sentence how often are they returned, if such are repeated. in the case

when they return and continue to do the same and whether they fall for the same bait again, and people, as for the victims, but i'll tell you. so, we probably had cases, uh, that the victim, for maybe five or six hours, came twice or thrice, even the courier, that is, the conversation continued and the victim throughout this conversation, and she was convinced that that the amount is insufficient and the victim twice thrice, transferred the money, as for the perpetrators of fraud, then, as a rule, people who communicate with this species in the car, if they are young people aged 16 to 27 years. but when they realize that they committed, it is understandable, they are already repenting, they understand that they face punishment. they say that we are more yes and as for the repetition of the solution of fraud, as a rule, these are other machines. which

is done in relation to, probably familiar friends, where under a plausible pretext, uh , a person, uh, says that i need money to develop a business, that is, in this way he takes one amount, a second third, after which the scheme. clearly hidden. he is condemned, and after the events of punishment, a person can do nothing but before that, respectively, finds uniform ways and makes fantasy. listen, yes, therefore, a person, and does not stop roughly speaking, even if there have been consecutive punishments, that he commits a similar kind of crime, how quickly the victim comes out of this shock and applies to the police that he has become a victim of a car. well, maybe after the end of the call. uh, three, four, five times the courier came, that is, each time he gave a new amount. and when it became clear that, well, they deceived put the phones , the victim begins to realize that, maybe. somewhere i was wrong, i heard

about such a situation, uh, which i heard on tv, or read somewhere, it starts to recruit familiar relatives in the first place. well, to clarify how the state of what in a telephone conversation finds out that no one has been in an accident, everyone is alive and well and immediately applies. yes, it already turns out right away by phone, or uh with uh, independently applies to the territorial division of the courier's bodies to detain. well, directly with the package, relatively speaking, yes, there were cases ah, where a to us it was possible, and red-handed to detain the courier, right next to the address of the therapist, someone figured it out very quickly. yes, what is happening there is an opportunity with uh, we can quickly respond to such fraud messages worth knowing. let's try to list how else our citizens are being deceived. ways to do it. here are these fraudulent actions, theft of deceptions. you can call it whatever you like.

they do not change, they change, only the pretext under which the postal yes, when they call by mail there and say, go to the post office and get parcel to pay a certain amount of money. the fact is that today we have already talked about why they are committed, why people react to it. the fact is that a person is not a robot, he has his own feelings, and scammers play the most on these feelings. uh, a serious feeling, this feeling of fear, on which, again, there is also an accident when a relative gets there. we are ready to give anything there, just to save our loved ones. yes, then there is a feeling of some kind of idle curiosity. eh, let's go. we let's go through some kind of testing, we'll spin the wheel of luck there, suddenly we'll be lucky. well, the third one, of course, i would probably single out. these are questions of precisely a certain self-interest and a thirst for obtaining some kind of er, some material benefits, while doing nothing. and now we return again to the same parcels, that is, a person receives a message that it has come in your name. a link in

which some very expensive gift is located, all you need to do is pay there some kind of symbolic postage amount. yes, then you will find out what is there, well, they can tell you on the phone that you have won some very new phone there or some kind of household appliances, something very serious. well, when you are already somewhere in your head thinking about how i will do this now, how i will sell my old one to whom and are ready to pay some amount there for the fact that you then open this package. there 's a phone there, maybe anything. there, maybe just a brick to lie. maybe maybe just a set of paper or something. well, any object that creates a certain e weight creates some kind of weight and everything that is on the dating site. here are the same dating sites again. and here again we come to a certain problem. why do we stop communicating with each other? as a person, we are

accustomed. or what, we have gadgets at hand , we have a computer, we have some kind of equipment, which, on the one hand, we do not need to run anywhere. we can lie on the sofa, make ourselves tea, coffee, drink calmly and communicate. and this is what leads to the fact that the end result. uh, in the process of communication, the potential victim is quite simple. here, uh, again there is a message on psychology. uh it is proposed at some point it is already meet. in order to meet, but you need to pre-book, for example, the same uh, the theater is also a cinema. uh, anything to make some payment, some some service that's so scarce. and what needs to be done here and now. well, and accordingly, everything is with a person who like, maybe even, and i used to be afraid. eh, somewhere here, for example, a young man is also talking directly to a girl. and all these, he may be shy there some right.

meetings will not find any understanding. and then , it seems, after talking on the network, some kind of psychological contact appeared. eh, he sees that he is ready to communicate with him, and he is ready to pay some there, again some insignificant amount, to book the same tickets there in order to eventually meet. and suddenly it's fate. yes. well, and accordingly, then it turns off again. this here, uh, the rationality of this thinking, logic, departs, emotions are already included in the background. the hormones are already on. well, and, accordingly, all the functions are performed, all the actions that the scammer is already directing you are sending you this phishing link. you already uh, iridescent uh circles in your eyes. yes, it is no longer considered, what is there on this screensaver on this one? what there are fields works. it doesn’t have any grammatical errors, in the same ones there in offers. never mind. it is important already

to quickly try to pay and come somewhere to hold a meeting. all these scams are pure psychology , only the pretexts are changing, under which this and and why are more pretexts changing, because, uh, as practice shows, they are first of all remembered. apparently, only certain theses. yes, theses, and when a person is asked, again, this is already a victim of the same cyber-fraud. well, now, did you know that if a person calls you, he introduces himself banker, and uh, you can't uh, give him your banking details. yes, i knew, but it was not the banker who called me. i got a call from a law enforcement officer the same as we stopped today. well, uh, did we know that you can't answer if the call is from a foreign number? well, there was a belarusian number, respectively. uh, so we see here, and the same thing that alexei anatolyevich stopped at, that the ladies knew that they could. fraudsters, but here already

called, a relative. he spoke so convincingly. so uh that's just me the heart could not stand the fact that moreover, the orientation is more towards the older generation, who are more emotional and who now already well, let's understand that we have certain age categories, slightly different values ​​and value scale , and already to more, er, older age. we have more emotions again. and what is left of people. it's just to take care and help your loved ones. thank you very much for a very useful informative conversation. i hope that thanks to our broadcast, including people will be more attentive careful. thank you

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